Nice bro how’s it going? Trynna weigh up which one to get. Prefer the CBRs looks and if it’s more cosy to ride… but I wanna try get the most power out of a bike on the learner restrictions in NZ
@@LZYDOG honestly it’s a good bike. It has enough power to have fun and to get you in trouble as a learner. If you want something a tad bit faster a ninja 300 or r3 or cbr500 would be good. But the cbr300 is an excellent starter bike as well
i'm actually really wishing i could find an R3 on craigslist. There are like 5 older beat up ninja 250s and not a single R3. i guess that testifies to how good of a bike it is.
Dylan McMullen that's a damn good point, we can only drive a 50cc when we're 15, a 125cc when we're 16 and anything that's road legal at 18 and we can't have guns!
Thanks for the video, I’m 14 and want to get my motorcycle license once I can. I really like the r3 but I’m probably going to get a used ninja 250 just because it’s so cheap, and it’s the tried and true beginner bike.
Just bought my 2017 Hyosung GD250R today! Hyosung is a Korean company, yet their North American branch has been extremely easy to contact for assistance, parts, etc. It feels great to support one of the smaller name brands. It's completely different than what anyone else has. It looks freaking awesome too with the whole Daytona in front and Ducati thing going on in the back. The head lights make it look like an owl or some kind of predator ☉v☉ I'm gonna take as much time as I need to get really good at riding on this thing (my commute is 45 minutes each way through the twisties up here in the Cali foothills)!
parallel and in-line are the same. the r3 does have 180 crankshaft or cross plane witch gives it a different firing order. it also gives it more torque.
Ims glad you chose the CBR to be the best. I'm going to be choosing my first bike later this year and was going back and forth between the CBR or the R3. The ONLY reason I'm even considering the R3 is because its blue instead of the red model my local Honda dealer has, but the Honda dealers have been very nice and helpful where as the Yamaha dealer wants me to ride the bikes they like (cruisers) instead of what I want
Out of the 4 bikes, I've ridden 2 and owned one and honestly any are good starters or commuter bikes. Personally, the R3 is my choice and babying it, i was getting 63-65 mpg's city/hwy and im 5'8" 150 lbs. All n all what's a good starter bike?? Its all up to you. It's preference and what's comfortable and practical and purpose is up to the rider. Peace everybody!! 👍😁❤🏍
Dassd Schsdu well ya wont get good mpgs on a h2. Lol i wouldn't expect it. R3= est. 6,300 bucks out the door and i spent around 6 bucks for gas driving between 150 to 190 miles a week. So yes in my opinion it was good on commuting. Zx 14? No. Now driving fast and having fun? Yes. Again jus my preference. Peace dude.
Arcand Arnold Yh like 5 yrs ago you could get your license and buy whatever you want. But too many ppl bought a 1000cc First day They could ride and killed themselves... so now its only “safe” to start on a 125 :/
Great to see someone pushing away from the "You gotta start riding on a busa bro!".I Got a ninja 300 as my first bike. Put ~5000 miles on it so far and loved every minute of it.
I have owned many bikes. 1000's, 600's. Now I also own a GD250r...laugh all you want, but this little bike is good. I love it. Aftermarket exhaust, air filter...tops out at 112 mph. Handles very well, and its very light (340) pounds wet. Very fun at small tracks. You can easily work your track skills with this little bike and not get fatigued.
Next time people ask me what beginner bike I recommend I'll just point them to this video. I've ridden three of these bikes and I pretty much agree 1:1 with your conclusion. I will say though that I personally prefer the sound of the two-cylinder bikes over the boring one-cylinder Honda sound.
My first bike was a 2017 r6. It has treated me well. I see the danger with starting on a 600 is when you get comfortable with the bike you start pushing your limits and can find yourself in situations that you may not be able to get out of. There are times where I wonder how I'm still alive. Aside from that 2017 r6 is a great starter bike with proper throttle control. (I still have the R6 by the way)
I’ve been watching your videos for a long time, but This bothered me a lot. Dan, please take a day to learn about the motorcycle engines! 1. A parallel twin is the same as an inline 2-cylinder engine. 2. A beginner sport(or otherwise) bike, by definition should NOT be razor sharp or ultra-responsive, be that in throttle, brakes, steering or otherwise. 3. Peak Horsepower and Peak Torque are not useful figures to really anyone, especially when it comes to relatively low power starter bikes. 4. Link dyno graphs and promote those if you’re going to talk about power figures, because those actually tell you how the bike delivers power. If you can’t find charts, describe the power delivery through the rev-range with detail. 5. Excellent recommendation on the ABS.
Nikolas have any specific questions? I started on a Kawasaki Z650 which is really similar to the fz07. Rode the fz07 and loved it but the seating position on the z650 made me fall in love. If you're asking in regards to is it too much power or something then no, it's really manageable. Just be gentle with the throttle in the lower gears.
nikolas penney honestly loved starting on it. I will say it does take some responsibility because you can wheelie pretty easily. the seating position and overall gearing of the bike is great. The only thing I don't like is it doesn't have a slipper clutch , which isn't a huge deal but would be very nice for a beginner.
Thanks a lot for the quick reply guys, I’m a bigger guy so I’m looking at a bike with a bit more grunt to start on and in New Zealand the MT-07 is one of the larger approved beginner bikes. Was just deciding whether to go for it or not.
Lets get this straight for anyone wondering. The term starter bike is used to identify a motorcycle that you learn the basics on, it is not intended to be anything other than that. Do not go out and get a starter bike if you plan on keeping it for more than one riding season. If you already know how to ride a motorcycle do yourself the favor and get a middle weight naked bike. It will let you fine tune your skills and is a very forgiving platform to learn more advanced riding skills and techniques on.
In my opinion I wouldn't start on any of those. I would recommend a dual sport like yamahas wr250R or hondas crf250L. I think those would be funner bikes in the long run. Because 300 one would grow out of pretty fast or might get boring within months of riding while the dual sports can be blast to ride for years even. Now this just a opinion and I'm literally just some dickhead. Granted all the bike you mentioned are solid for beginners who know zip bout two wheels. Good line up doitwithManlet
My first bike (and only because I sold it before joining the Marines) was a F4i, I loved it. Not slow and still extremely forgiving. As you had one you can probably agree!
kendall yoder hell yeah man, I would actually buy another and I want to when I get money, but I'm currently building a gsr so I can't have another toy for a while haha, be safe out there!
Do It With Dan look up the definitions. What do I know anyways, just a mechanic, right? An inline has 2 cyl side by side, and a parallel, also has 2 cyl side by side. I know because I own a ninja 250, which has been described as both.
Do It With Dan upon further research I see the difference. However sorry I meant is now invalid due to the fact that in lines haven't been used on motorcycles in quite a while. However, the ninja is a parallel-twin not an inline. My mistake sorry for wasting your time.
John Tetlow one more thing to add... the ninja is a straight twin (inline). The major difference is that both cylinders fire at the same time in a Parallel twin where as in the straight they fire opposite of each other.
One of the best bike comparisons ive seen for a while. I love chases cinematics but the moto vlog style isnt the best for this kind of thing. Great dan humour and infomation i can listen to without wind and road noise taking away from it. 👍🏻
DAN i think you forgot to add a link in the description lol. you ended the vid referring people to a link to another how to ride video but then never put the link in
Bro I literally wrote a paragraph comment on yesterday's video asking what first bike I should get. Thanks Dan. BTW I used to watch your channel when you had about 9k subs, but glad to say I'm back :) ride safe.
This was an excellent video to help me choose which bike to return to riding on. I have been riding bikes for over 15 years and have had more "advanced" bikes. Took a break for a while and kinda wanna slide back into things. This was unbiased and as informative as they come. Well done.
meanwhile i am 16 and riding a 50 moped. im not even mad bcz when i get a bigger bike i will respect every bit of power it offers....to me even a 300 as a starter seems to much ... altho i would prefer to have myself a 125 as a starter. i dont even know how some people start on 1000's , then whats the point?
MingLee if you are 16 and ride a 50cc you must be from europe, you have to remember american roads are very different in terms of how wide the road is and how straight it is, i don't want to say it's impossible but it's difficult losing control of the bike while going straight, look at some vlogs or people that record themself riding, most of the time they ride on roads that look like european highway and all the curves they have are very long and wide
@@DRAKEJUN1OR thanks bro but I think I’m just going to get it I’m getting a good deal on it and where i live anyrhinf over 400cc is a lot more for insurance and I just need it for daily commuting not to spirited rides so for now I’m gonna have to settle on the cbr300r for now. I have ridden 600cc’s and didn’t find them that intimidating and I would say rather get one but the insurance , mpg, and the price for the 300 is just so worth it for me righ now
I started on a Bajaj pulsar 180. Moved to Kawasaki ninja 250. Now on the Ktm Rc 390. I would totally recommend to start on as much low cc or power as possible. I had dropped my first bike many times. Not like crashed it. But while learning you tend to drop it many times in parking lot, stop lights, signals etc. Once you spent at least a year with it and can handle small bikes fairly easily. Only then you upgrade to something big. Just because you have money doesn’t mean you should buy big bike as starter. Peace ✌🏻
I bought my 2016 CBR 300R two years ago. It's my first bike. Never rode anything else besides a Suzuki 125 at the MSF class. I. LOVE. This. Bike. Sure I've gotten used to the power by now. But I don't ride for acceleration. I ride for comfort, smoothness, reliability, simplicity, and fun. If I get another bike someday, I'm keeping the little CBR.
People dont get when your a new rider, you WILL dump it. It happens. Its called learning. I bought a brand new bike in 97 and totaled it 2 weeks later after i checked my pager lol. Btw been riding since 91. Used and cheap, a scratch here, dent there.Who cares. Once your experienced thats when you buy new. Those are all throw away bikes. Unless you get it for dirt cheap used. Even at 4gs bet it gets totaled in a year. I will say 250 to 300 four strokes are good for starter bikes. Wish you kids could have experienced a 250 two stroke like me. Litre bike. Lol
Actually Dan I'm 15 and I got a Ninja 300 and legally licensed because some smart Texans thought a 15 year old on a motorcycle is okay but in a car is not for some reason. If you're looking for a starter bike Ninja 300 is a very good bike and holds up in the twisties and on the freeway, leans very well on twisty country routes I ride and highest I've ever hit is 105 mph which is more than enough for a beginner.
You can buy a 1,000hp car with almost no regulations so why should a fast bike be any different. As long as you know the risk/dangers of riding no different than a fast car
Get a 650 vtwin bike. It’ll feel more like what your used to. 600cc 4cly bikes are nothing like anything you’ve ever ridden, and aren’t the smartest choice to start on the road
John Doe yup I know nothing 😂 I’ve only ridden about 20 different bikes. He’ll probs be fine on the r6, but don’t pretend anything about a dirt bike is like a r6
Fz07 cb500f z600s or sv650 i had a cb500f liked it for a while but could tell i wanted more sold it and got a gsxr600 now but my buddy had a fz07 way more bang for ya buck and can still keep up with 600s
Thank you guys for the suggestions. Ill look into those motorcycles. I just like the retro look of the naked/standard bikes more than the sportsbike but of course I won't rule them out just yet.
Sup Bro It depends on how much you ride on the highway. 60-70 is something the R3 can accomplish but the engine will be revving higher than the Ninja 400 because the Ninja 400 is geared higher. If you don’t ride on the highway that much go for the R3 because it will be cheaper. Also check your eligibility in your area to see if you can start on the Ninja 400 and R3 with your beginner license.
Sup Bro man, if ninja 300 is around you can buy that for cheap right now. I bought one brand new for 3600 usd. They had the non winter test edition for 2999 usd. Hahahaha I love my bike and I have had many before up to a 1000.
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-BXTFklndWdg.html zero miles 3600 usd look, I even financed it because it was zero interest rate lol. They giving them away, they're fun as hell, I get compliments all the time and its fast enough. I'm 6'1 235lbs.
People might not realize, but these bikes are a step up in performance in many countries around the world, where people start on 125s, 150s or even smaller than those. Yamaha didn't start building a starter bike for the US market from scratch, they aimed the R3 and MT-03 (the better version in my opinion) at riders looking for a more premium product in places like India, Brasil and alikes. Where for some time the step from a starter bike, think 10~15 hp 125~150cc, to a bigger 500~600cc was too expensive. Same goes for the KTM offerings like the RC390, Duke 390, or even the Duke 200/250 that are premuim stuff around here but I suppose are too small for the US market.
I can't wait to start riding, I'm looking for a bike at the moment. And this video helped with bike to look for to start on. Thanks for the informational video.
Michael Lower yeah..i have a 2017 ninja 300 abs...it doesnt struggle at 80 and its not broken in yet..no mods..at 400 miles so far ...and im a total newb....i love my bike
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-BXTFklndWdg.html I picked up this ninja winter test brand new for 3600. I think people let their fucking egos tell them lies. I'm 235lbs 6'1 and love everything about this bike. I do 80 to 100 all the time and I have no issues slowing down and then picking the speed right back up if I want too. People are a bit foolish when they say they need 130 hp bike or 200 hp bikes. I mean are you really in need of that or does your pipi need that?
Jorge Villalobos yes the egos always...you should've this or should've that in talks about CCs....i love it..i just came back from a cycle gear bike night for the first time....i was around some monsters and i wasnt alone...but that winter test looks great..i have the white one...im looking for the right sliders because i dont want to hit my shins hence my size
THATS MY SPOT! Awesome man, I was between the white and the winter test. I've owned many bikes and I'm truly happy with this bike. Its so cheap, gets compliments and you can ride it hard without issue.
Ok I have a CBR300r and I honestly love the bike. I know people always dog on it compared to other 300s, but I’m glad you appreciated it dan, honestly surprised me!
Yeah that’s what I did and I’m really glad I didn’t waste my time and money on a 300 or 250. Everyone I know that got a 250/300 as their first bike wanted to trade in a few weeks or months.
Exactly if your not stupid you can learn on them to me there not even heavy like people say they are I got a 2000 R6 and I'm glad I didn't buy a shit 250 and waste 3,000 to sell it and hope I get my money back and spend another 6-7k
Daniel Alvarez Tbh you can learn on any size if you take a training course on a learner bike and once you're done, you can learn from your own big bike
Even though you can... a 1000 is a bit much, i mean if you have previous dirt bike or other motorcycle experience sure, but even someone with no experience wont struggle that much learning on a 600 with a little care and respect for the bike, but i would never put anyone i love on a 1k for their first ride.
The problem I have with 250/300s are everyone I know that starts out on a 250/300 within 3 to 6 months they want to sell it and get a bigger bike but everying I know that starts out on somthing like grom or dual-sport while true they out grow it just has fast. But rather then sell it they keep it and just buy a second (bigger) bike. I personally always recommend dual-sports, enduro and supermotos or some sort as starter bike, they are usually built like dirt bikes so they suffer less damaged when dropped. And when you decide to get a bigger bike it remains useful unlike a 250/300 sport bikes which you immediately try to sell. Now with That being said for the price the GD250r beats anything I would personally recomend. If they can produce enough of these to the point they are easy to find second or third hand they could corner the beginner bike market.
I have a Versys X300 ADV. It has a 300 Ninja engine. I always get better than 60 mpg. I got used to the higher RPM pretty quick. Redline is 12,000 RPM and it runs 75 on TX highways at 9,000 rpm. I plan to do a lot of miles on the ADV. Looking to get a Grom or Grom clone this fall to cruise around town or around our local lake. I think I prefer riding a slow bike fast to riding a fast bike slow. No more 600 lb. Harleys for me. My first new bike was a 1970 Honda CL-90. I hit 76 in Sept. and I still like bikes better than cars. 4 wheels move the body, 2 wheels move he soul. Ride safe.
Currently a 16 year old, had my Ohio motorcycle learner's permit while still 15 so I got a huge kick out of the comments about starting on big ass bikes so young (biggest I've gone is a buddy's '14 Honda blackbird 1100 or some shit) and absolutely lost it on the comment about a $1500 ninja 250...bought my '03 ninja 250 for exactly $1500. Thanks for the laugh. Anyway, great video, keep it up man.
oh no im the "im a girl and i wanna learn to ride a bike' but this was the best learner video on starter bikes i've seen and now i know the cbr300r i have been dreaming of is gonna be great. thanks heaps
Am saving for my first bike, The CBR300r. It's comfy it's perfect for what I need to do. and most of all. It's the cheapest at $4000 (AUD) I know this was made a year ago but thanks Dan. This helped me make my choice!
I bought a 2015 r3 a few weeks ago for my first bike. I love it. Its pretty quick. I go 65mph in 5th gear. I haven't pushed it to hard yet because I am still learning. But my friend who rode it home for me, hit 100mph. He also said he hadn't redlined either.
You forgot to put the bold white text enhancements in the 'blackout' spots for the first 2/3 of the video. Granted, the 'blackout' helps emphasize the words of your narration, but I was sitting here thinking it would be so sick to have text matched up with your cadence .... then near the end it finally happened. Still a great video none-the-less!!! 🤟🖖🤘👍👊🤩
Love these vids, Dan. Spot on analysis without all the brand myopathy. I would like to add though, I still think the Suzuki SV650 is the pinnacle of what a starter bike should be. Full sized, so you get the weight and the feel of the big boys, which makes for an easier transition when upgrading, but the power comes from a torquey but manageable and mellow 650 V-twin. It's fun, but won't rev you thru the plate glass window at Taco Bell while failing at burnouts in the parking lot in front of your friends.
Fantastic video like always! You should do a video about shifting without the clutch and the pros and cons on it as well as if different makes and models are different
I personally believe that the wr250r is the best beginner, you aren’t going to get bored of it fast like a 250/300 sport, and can drop it all you want and go off-road and do wheelies. Or a grom for close commuting for eco and literally the easiest bike to ride. But hey I used to want a cbr300r and just said screw it and got a 2006 zzr600 for $2,250. To each their own. I will say that everyone I know that got a 250/300 sport as their first bike wanted a bigger bike in just a few weeks or months. And everyone that started on a 600 I know was happy for a long time. Also I had a liter bike for a year before it was stolen and got a 675r after, I much prefer a mid class. Small bikes are fun as hell and I mainly ride the grom tbh. Size doesnt matter, but your choice of enjoyment and practicality does so don’t settle or go to big. Just pick the bike you love and see yourself on a lot. Great review Dan, I honestly wish this was out when I first got into bikes but oh well, the 600 was a great learning experience 😉
The Ninja's very eager but it really does need the revs. It's actually really good around town as it's very smooth down low, especially with a fuel controller to smooth out the fueling. You do however need to downshift aggressively to get it going if you're poodling around 4-5k, it just doesn't have the torque. I'm glad you noticed it tops out around 85. You really need a slight gradient to get it to pull all the way to 100ish. Ari Henning is a big, big CBR300 fan, for all the reasons you mention. I'd have bought one of those but the the narrow tank made my legs way more cramped than the Ninja.
