Dude imagine the people that drank and showered with the water in that tank, and then found out a decaying corpse had been rotting in it for 3 weeks and they’d been consuming and bathing in water contaminated with who knows what floating about in it Like why is nobody talking about how sickening that is
That must've been so traumatizing for them, and the worst part is that most of the people from the incident are still alive, I wonder if they're scared to do anything related to water just because of what happened
Lack of security. There shouldn't be a latter there, there should be locks on top of those water tanks opening. There should be cameras on the roof. The roof should be possible to access with the people working there only. There should locks on the inside doors leading to the roof top. Accessing to the roof top from outside should be impossible without the help of the people working there. RIP ELISA LAM!!!
there was an alarm on the rooftop access door that when triggered, would sound an alar that would go from the 15th floor and could be heard throughout the fifteenth and fourteenth floors, as well as it would sound at the front desk. this alarm could only be turned off by maintenence workers who were the only ones who had keys to them.
There was not a ladder when Elisa went there. That being said I fully believe you could climb up to the top of that using the surrounding pipes if you were determined enough
This is so crazy to think about There was a human in there, a living, breathing person who had feelings and a personality. Said person suffered HOURS stuck in there, thinking they were getting chased. It’s just so horrifying to think about.
Apparently the lid was open when the maintenance guy found her. Wouldn't this have shown when the police were on the roof and helicopter was hovering above looking down🤔 surely couldn't miss that???
So many theories and unanswered questions. All i can think about is, this young woman had severe mental health issues, bipolar and depression but she was off her medication. She had a history of not taking her meds, episodes of hallucinations and was hospitalised in the past. How the hell did her parents and sister not see signs she was off her meds or anyone else around her not notic any erratic/unusual behaviour? How did her parents allow her to travel alone? She managed to leave home and travel alone to this hotel. Did nobody notice any strange behaviour at the airport/on flight? People at the hotel complained about her odd behaviour, yet they still allowed her to stay and change rooms but nobody thought to intervene and call an ambulance? Such a tragic case.
She was well enough to travel. Her illness wasn’t at a critical stage. Her behaviour wasn’t that unusual until she reached the hotel. There are probably so many people who act unusual/strange which people would at first glance was drunk, people don’t call 911 for a small unusual behaviour unless they are in real danger.For this they should’ve called someone related to her or 911. People didn’t complain about her behaviour, they complained about the water taste and smell, and the people changed rooms, not Elisa lam All these reasons and unanswered questions are the very reason this case is so mysterious. Otherwise it would be like any other death
Her roommates did see the signs. She was moved to room 412 after they complained of the disturbing notes Lam left around for them to see. She was amid a psychotic episode.
What makes me question the police action is one simple fact. Dog takes you to a window, which leads you out to a ladder and onto a roof. You get onto the roof and claim to check everywhere. So why did they not check the tanks? My thought as a detective would be to check those as well , considering that there is a small ladder to the tanks and there are latches on top of tanks 💁♀️ why didn't they check the tanks ? Or did they ??
@@one-day-at-a-time4134 sometimes not everything gets told. Wether it be the hotel doesn't want to share or the someone in the police didn't want to either and simply covered it up. Though if she truly didn't drown herself or at least didn't get out someone had to influence this or something whatever happened it wasn't by mistake. Wether it truly was just her seeing things that wasn't there or someone planned it out who knows only till someone tries to dig deeper in it we won't know.
what pisses me off is that cecils water tank is easy as hell to get in like this youtuber got there, like what happens if someone POISONS the water? puts drug?puts another dead body?
bro u cannot hide/close/lock everything, u can poison like everything in the world. the food in the supermarket? have u tought about that? u want them to put banana's in hard plastic boxes with locks on it?
Idk if her clothes were in the tank with her when they found her but she could've woken up from the "trance" she was in and realized what was happening and took off her clothes to help her float because clothes get heavy when wet (trust me, ik, almost drowned from my jeans being to heavy.) Anyways she could've drowned from getting to tired due to her yelling, banging on the sides of the tank etc. Also what I mean by trance is that from the elevator footage it looked like she was having a bipolar meltdown, my older sister has bipolar depression and she does the same exact thing. She hallucinates, and does weird hand motions. It doesn't happen very often because of my sister's meds and therapy but out of all of this, it is a scary thought to think about. My prayers goes out to her family to figure out what actually happened. (Yes, ik they said it was a "accidental" death but I still think it wasn't) This whole paragraph was my theory if it is absolutely positive that she committed. Edit~ changed suicide to accidental death fyi
I'm bipolar so I understand that part, I'm on meds now but hallucinating like that is extremely rare and doesn't happen to everyone with bipolar, which is already a rare disorder as is. The way she acted still seemed off to me, dropping into a water tank then closing the top seems really hard to do, impossible even. Really weird situation all around.
Water tank exteriors are dusty and rusty. I’m sure LAPD could’ve easily found shoe prints, fingerprints around the tank or the top surface of the tank where the lid is. Or if Elisa was truly naked before getting inside, they would’ve found bare footprints around the hatch surface...
This is the first time hearing this mentioned. Wow. And furthermore, why wouldn't they collect fingerprints/footprints from the lid, for example, and the surface around the tank? Like, if she had hoisted herself up on top of the tank, wouldn't there be a handprint or such? I don't know what all the maintenance guy touched when he found her, if that would have clouded other markings.
thats because cecil was home to residents, rather than actual people who would stay there to explore cali. cecil was known for having people live there for more than 30+ years.
Like that's going to help in a dumpy, scary area (and why was that little girl even THERE? My daughter sure tf wouldn't be, just saying. Not safe at all). Tho I realize bipolars are impossible to keep track of or talk any sense into. Had a cousin like that. Lots of drama and insanity around them ALL the time.
@@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 She's not little, she was 21 and on a trip to California. Once people turn 18 they're able to move out and explore things on their own. And not all of us people with bipolar are like that. It's a type of depression.
yes because they’re trying to seperate the bad people they go into the “cecil hotel” and all the innocent people who aren’t bad go to “stay on main” which is supposed to seperate bad people from being able to hurt the good people i guess
@@kimmielichaavlogs8405 but it werent separated was it? Stairs and lifts still accessed these levels so it's irrelevant really. She was being disceptive to people
I have to adress somthing that might add to the disturbing factor here The maintenance guy that came to check up on the water pressure opened the tank that she was in last ...and when he opened it the first thing he saw was her naked lying face up with HER EYES WIDE OPEN ...he said that he saw a face then closed the lid fast in shock and reopend it again moments after ... My God just imagine the sight ...if that was me I would still have nightmares of her face and eyes staring upwards towards me
@@VISTlNAL The tank lid wasn't closed. That was a false report that has actually been cleared up. A little research goes a long ways in the real world.
That's why families always gotta keep on eye on people with mental health problems and not let them travel outside of their country unless the person travels with someone else R.I.P. 🖤
@@dnh3005 doesn't matter. Someone with severe mental health is a vulnerable adult. There should be some support put in place, especially when someone has a past history of hallucinations and not taking their medication.
So I’m assuming once she got in she was unable to get out ? There’s no ladder to climb out of the tank from what I see. She probably struggled for so long to get out and got tired and eventually just drowned.
the water pressure being used from the tank was making it more difficult for her to get out, initally no one knew she was in there. so people were using the water, for bathing, drinking etc. obviously depleting more water usage from the tank.
What I don't get is the tanks were not that tall. Look at the photos of the fire fighters standing next to them. They could reach up and probably touch the top... You're gonna tell me she got trapped in those tiny tanks when they were 3/4 full of water? It doesn't make sense. Anyone could have made it out of them.
@@tylerbrown7713 Key Word: Water pressure And how the hell would she have gotten out? There’s no where to climb up and nobody knew about her being there whatsoever And the tanks aren’t as tiny as you think.
@@tylerbrown7713 Actually, her autopsy says she is estimated 66 inches in height. This equals around 5’5-5’6. The tank was said to be around 8 feet. Definitely a huge difference. Especially when each time the water was used, the tank made it go up and down in pressure. It doesn’t take a genius to know that.
KnightZ1987 Not sure why they couldn't get her out the same way she went it. Such a Weird story! I've heard that little whole is always ooe for rain water but that she couldn't have fit in it. and obviously this guy doesn't open anything so it's alee open
When a body has been immersed in water for almost 3 weeks it is very difficult to lift it directly up out of an opening that is 18" square without interfering with any potential forensic evidence. Easiest way was to drain the tank, cut a hole in it at the base, and carry the body out carefully. The hatch would normally be closed. She most likely opened it and climbed in. The maintenance worker who found the body testified in court documents that the lid was off when he found her.
Mike S to me i dont ever see any with bipolar and depression act that psyched out. Its very eery. Also why do you think some of the hotel footage was deleted? How tf do they get away with that?
The maintenance worker is probably the one that killed her. His testimony was contradictory because he said the alarm was never triggered or deactivated between the time of her disappearance up until he found the body. So was there no maintenance done on the roof for nearly a month? Did the police haul up their search dogs on their shoulders through the fire escape? No, they used that door, so the alarm was either deactivated or it went off--or in any case wasn't a functioning alarm and was just there for show. Given these discrepancies, he could very well be lying about the hatch as well. On the subject of the dogs, they would have picked up dead-body scent if the hatch was open, but probably not if it was closed and submerged in water. Not to mention the hatch was said to be quite heavy for a petite girl to open. I think a hotel worker (maintenance guy) deactivated the alarm and took her up there asleep or already dead and dumped her in after removing her clothes. Closed the hatch during the investigation, then opened it to find the body after the residents were complaining about the water and just said it was open to make it seem like she just fell in there by "accident".
The doors are locked so you wouldn't of been able to get up there without a worker/employee. My theory is she started seeing stuff because she didn't take her meds the day she vanished and for days she was either kidnapped or ran away and soon after thrown in the tank, dead. She was last seen by a worker too so yeah. There was no way she could have drowned because where the water goes up to would be pretty high and there are a few tanks and would go down pretty far but if she was alive when in the tanks she has to have been hurt because she isn't allowed to go on the roof and she could go through a fire exit but then again only workers can access the code to not set off alarms and they have a strong code/password at hotels. Tell me if u want anymore information because I have a lot... ( I have been researching )
AshGaming so you think that she was hallucinating, which explains her weird behaviour in the elevator and that an employee took advantage of the fact she was tripping and kidnapped her while she was in a vulnerable state? Makes much more sense tbh then most theories but then how did no one get convicted?
@@nondescriptbeing5944 Doubtful, seeing as the guy who would have killed her/knocked her out would have to be carrying her, yes? Dead weight is called so with very good reason.
They just reopened about 3 weeks ago, RU-vidr Peet Montzingo revealed on his channel, they are not making it a pool..it's becoming a low income apartment complex for 900$ a month for the "homeless" on skid row.
@@trivkypeak-eye3557 stop spreading lies. That's not true, the hotel is an apartment complex now and just had a ribbon cutting ceremony 3 weeks ago. The "pool" you were talking about was an original idea they had before Covid hit....but they decided not to go with the "luxury hotel" idea afterwards.
For those who don't know.. here go.. A story about Elisa Lam.. Elisa lam was a Canadian who was staying at Cecil hotel. She was staying alone and had no friends while comming to L.A.. The hotel she stayed I was known for its tragedies.. some are not tragedies but true,scary events such as the Richard Ramiraz one.. He wasa killed who stayed at the Cecil hotel aswell. There had been many deaths and murderers had stayed there aswell. So she had bipolar(I'm not sure if it had been true but her friend did say that she had mental health issues such as bipolar) and there's a video of her acting weird inside the elevator. The people saw it and thought she wascrazy at first but then her parents reported her missing as she hadn't been picking up they're calls or her friends calls and they were all worried.. on the other hand the residents staying there had been complaining about the water being very smelly,kinda redish and very disgusting.. so they sent someone up on the roof to check the water tanks.. (Kindly leave if you're sensitive as some stuff here might be scary...) The person who went there first saw the water tanks being closed but yet smelling foul like a dead bird had died.. He didnt think much of it and opened up the water tanks to check thoroughly in case there really was something rotting inside of it even though there was no way as : 1: the lid was very head toopen up 2: it was entirely closed He then proceeded to open the lid of one of the water tanks to see a girls body.. the person who went there immediately called the police.. Now there was a girls body inside (not sure if she had clothes on or off) and the lid was very small for anyone to fit inside and get the body out so even in the video you could see a hole. That area was cut out to get Elisa lams body. Now about the elevator video,it was real and I that video you could see Elisa trying to hide from someone,talking to someone, signaling or moving her hands weirdly and that was the day when she used the stairs and had died inside the water tanks. The foul smell and weird water was her body decomposing and it had been mixed in with water so that's why it had been smelling... people drank,bathe,washed they're hands and faces with that exact water in which Elisa Lam had died in.. till this date many people she was murdered, she had suicide or maybe it really was her health issue.. but the real question is what do you think about this story...?! (R.I.P Elisa Lam whatever happened with you.. we can't find out.. but hoping you would get justice..!.. ❤
I think it’s interesting that in the autopsy report of Elisa Lams body it states that a sandy material and fragile white flaky substance was found on the clothes throughout. I noticed in this video there is sand at the base of the tank. Also you can see a wooden ladder in this video with chipping paint (the fragile flaky substance maybe). She was found naked in the tank with her clothes found inside. This to me seems like the clothes were set on the ground then maybe hung on the wooden ladder while her body was first put into the tank then thrown in after. Idk just my observation
She wasn't murdered or thrown in. Why is sand so suspect a notion to you in a city that's by the coast? Does it look like there was sand all over the roof? Besides...who is to say she didn't get sand on her clothing herself? Or brush up against the ladder herself? She obviously could have Not everything you read in those kind of reports is in any way suspicious
I think someone murdered Elisa because in the elevator Elisa was like standing in the corner and trying to be out of sight and was peeking continuously if someone was coming.
How somebody who had stayed at that hotel for the first time could find her way up on the roof into that water tank and crawl in I will never understand. Really odd.
Still no one has answered how the lid managed to put itself back in place. Also I guarantee the police did not check the inside of the tank with special lighting to see if she had left a message. You can use your finger on a wet surface to write, and if its dried and looked at with certain lighting you can sometimes see part of what was written, sometimes all of it. I find it strange that the police never gave an answer as to how a 20lb lid with no hinge was put back into place. If she could reach it, she would have been able to get out. I honestly think they coerced the maintenence man into lying. They did not want the public to know that not only did they manage not checking 4 giant water tanks while on the roof, but that they also did not even notice that the lid was not in place on one of the water tanks. Keep in mind they searched the roof "at night time" with lighting being provided by a police helicopter. Thats right a helicopter that could visibly see the tops of tanks "clear as day".
Agreed, i tried to mix up every theory and all i could've came up is Elisa had problems right? So, she couldve imagined and hallucinated somebody that was trying to kill her and tried to hid inside the tank maybe it was closed because of her banging and she couldnt get out of that tank since the pressure was NOT letting her out she couldve banged as hard as she coudlve but still has 2 questions. First, how would the lid automatically close just by banging the tank? Elisa mustve been strong but no. 2nd If she was actually banging the door why didnt the employee or anyone hear it? Since that tank is big they couldve heard it.
Bro, la tapa estaba abierta y así la encontraron (abierta) Sí, es terrible ya esa tapa tendría que estar cerrada para evitar que el agua se contamine no se sabe si fue ella quien la abrió o algún encargado la dejo abierta cuando le hizo mantención.
Did the police ever dust for prints on and around the water tank? I know they found her weeks later and rain would have probably washed any evidence away but did they even try to see if someone walk up the ladder with her?
Lol 2 very quick things. One, there was no lid on the tank. That was a false report, and has been proven otherwise. Two, they did dust for prints, and found multiple prints from the many people that have been on the roof. It's not like she was the very first person to go on the roof, or climb the ladder.
It might have been "easy" to get on to the roof, but there's still a lot of unanswered questions. Why did she go on the roof in the first place? Why was she acting so weird in the elevator? Why was she naked? Why isn't there any other footage of her? Why was she wandering around the hotel at night? Did anyone see her? Why did she go into the water tank? I could go on and on. I read the autopsy report and the cause of death is accidental drowning, but accidental confuses me. Did they think she fancied a casual swim at night in the water tank, but accidentally drowned in the process? Being in a water tank isn't accidental. It's all so strange to me, and I think it will always be a mystery. Personally I think someone, or something killed her, and I don't think it had anything with her being bipolar. We'll never know.
So Elisa lam, in a manic State, made that climb, into that huge tank, shimmied down the side of the tank, and laid there to die. I was born at night, but not last night.
@@jescruz5465 he's right you know.. even bottled water, if it doesn't say natural spring water then it's just tap water that's purified once again and has minerals thrown into it so it don't taste like distilled water. But yes regular tap faucet water is recycled/treated water from the sewage.
Just a thought, obviously this hotels haunted I have a theory that maybe she was persested by ghost which made her jumping in the tank , this explains the amount of people jumping out of windows too
My thoughts exactly! Surely her parents and friends would have seen signs of her being of her meds and displaying erratic/unusual behaviour. Yet they still allowed her to travel. And people at the hotel noticed her odd behaviour yet they still allowed her to stay and change her room. Why didn't they intervene and call for an ambulance or take her to the hospital?
No, reports said it was impossible for someone inside the tank to get out unassisted. Or for someone to carrying a body up the ladder and put it inside. Either way, it doesn’t make sense
there was a very pretty black girl staying at that hotel when this girl died- the black girl said the staff tried to take her to areas without cameras and she got away from them and was tooo scared to walk alone and got the hell outta that hotel
They need to show the top of the inside of the tank! If there are any scratch marks that means she was alive & if there aren’t that means she was dead before & was put there!
@@thebigboss8797 I read an article that they renovating the hotel and reopen soon. So the new Netflix documentary about the hotel and death of Elisa Lam is maybe just publicity? xD
If they didnt blurred the time stamp we could see if she went there at night or morning. She couldn’t see well without glasses(hence why she gets close to push buttons in the elevator) so, if we knew it was night time, probably she didn’t go there alone. She would fall while trying to reach to the tank that has the ladder.But her autopsy doesnt report any bruises.
I think it was the maintenance guy 🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️ the tank lid was open when he found her apparently? But it wasn’t when the helicopters were searching....
I just saw the documentary on Netflix and I do not understand the police theory that says that when it entered the tank it could be under the water level. This is false because the level is always kept full by a floating system that as the water comes out from below, the same amount enters again from above. In other words, it is always at the top, so if someone enters they would always reach the edge just by floating.
I don’t think it’d be as hard as it sounds, you’d just tip the lid back as your getting in and then once it’s past halfway it’d close itself with the weight, and 20lbs isn’t that heavy
There was a misunderstanding/miscommunication about the hatch that suggested it was closed. But in the original statement made by the hotel worker who found Elisa he says the hatch was open, when he went to inspect the tanks
@VannyG for sure. I found some hours ago a pic in the internet were you see the firefighters moving her body away and you see at the left the tank with that rectangular hole they cut to recover here body. edition.cnn.com/2013/02/21/us/gallery/hotel-cecil-los-angeles/index.html Picture number 2 ... boah this is so weird and super creepy.
If she was to do it herself; if the hatch door had a handle on the inside as well, couldn’t she have opened it up and held onto it as she went inside to close it maybe?
the guests complained about low water pressure and it coming out black- they drank her dead body water. Then the tuberculosis case went around call lam elisa- her name backwardsss
She was hallucinating she thought someone was chasing her so have wanted to hide and the hallucinations man said do not run and she decided to hide in the tank and she could not get back up so she took her cloths off because she was getting heavier and then she died and when the man checked he was face to face with her body 1 feet from the top
I think they discovered Elisa Lam by accident when they were trying to find out why the water was dirty and brown so they decided to look at the water tanks and then they find Elisa Lam
I was thinking the same thing!These water tanks are so crusty that they would have found some type of fingerprint or footstep. The fact that they didn't find anything is weird. If it would have been a suicide they would have found fingerprints but in a murder, they can clean up the scene.
To people trying to rationalise why she did things, or commenting that her actions didn’t ‘make sense’…. That’s bipolar. You can’t rationalise the actions of a person who is in a state of mania. I know this from experience of a friend who suffers with chronic bipolar. You can’t reason with them in that state at all. They believe what they believe at that exact moment, regardless of what you say to them, how much you reason with them or how irrational or unreasonable it is. Hence why they are often sectioned for their own safety. You can’t judge their choices or actions (while in mania) against the logical decisions of someone who isn’t bipolar.
1-2 min of footage is missing, foul play is at hand, either that or supernatural behaviour. I think that she was pressing all the buttons because there was something outside the doors something supernatural, she also looks like she's talking to someone or explaining something to someone. And why would she leave the elevator if no one was there? See what I mean? something that we can't see or someone that is hiding. And why did the elevator close as soon as she walks out? because the thing that was doing what they were doing stopped and followed her supper scary right? the elevator worked fine when she wasn't there, another question is who opened the tank? For a woman of that size to do this all alone is impossible!!! At least 2 people were at hand or something supernatural. Police might be trying to hide something or protect someone because the footage is edited.
but if it was cause by bipolar disorder why didnt the elevator closed immediately it only takes a few seconds to close but it didnt i dont think thats normal
I believe that she played the elevator game then the demon at the end of the game or near the end of the game killed her and put her in the water tanks
she was hallucinating that's someone was following her because she is bipolar and at the time she didn't take her meds to control how she acts in that state of mind, she hid in the water takes and drowned because she WANTED TO HIDE but later realized she was in the water and there's a suction at the bottom of the water tank because that tank leads to the hotel's water supply
Mental illness is a real thing. It is no joke, you believe in ghost etc its time to grow up and face reality. Chemical imbalances do happen in the brain which can lead people to see things that isn't there. When people hallucinate they go into a dream state, Its like a day dream or a nightmare but with your eyes open.
