Cenk Uygur vs Ben Shapiro LIVE at Politicon 2017 

Dear lord i love the youtube comments. Always sums up exactly what I'm thinking but cant put into words.

Dan north OMG 😂 This made my morning.

@Donald Trump lmfao ya ok he lost a debate with a toad who couldnt use a single fact..... explain to me one thing he said that destroyed Shapiro.... please i welcome it....Cenk literally says random shit that doesn't even make any sense.....give me one just one example of Shapiro being owned.....I'm waiting...

@Donald Trump with 0 examples even with context.... yet he totally ignores politicians taking bribery for years..not only ignoring them but supporting them... which means he helped prove himself an idiot.....btw that wasn't even a point of contention Shapiro didnt even argue that.... I'm waiting for a single example of Cenk owning Ben, I mean the video is right there almost 4 hours of not owning shit........

@Donald Trump btw ask Cenk why he named his tv show after turks from the ottoman empire who left after the destruction they caused renaming themselves the young turks then carried out the armenian genocide.....

Hahaha yeah, he is a machine gun.

When your opponent can't keep up, you outrun them.

Dude thinks talking faster means he’s winning

Jessica Buchanan no he thinks faster too lol

@@jessicabuchanan1392 cenk didn't stand a chance.

Darryl Harden lmao

Lol, perfect analogy.

Darryl Harden -isnt a battle supposed to be competitive?

Darryl Harden ya and Shapiro is B-rabbit

And if you knew anything about battle rap there’s a huge difference between winning in the building and winning on cam

The young trucks

@@seshtilirest4748 comedy

Only credit they deserve

You should learn how to better your spelling. Young Turks* I give you no credit you can't spell.

@@seshtilirest4748 comedy gold

Over Killa it's my freedumb to buy off the government waaaaah Ben shapiro 2017

Very humble of him, Lol

Doesnt Matter Exactly, IQ is genetic.

GOOFY LUCK cenk is a progressive idiot. (If you know what progressive slots are you'll understand my comment)

Kar stodes it was a joke

11 million is more accurate number.

Jack Doe you're definitely not a human being with some deep seated issues

Joe Miller it's not even a humorous joke. It's ridiculous and mundane

the joke was about the Armenian genocide dorks

pornhub exclusive

get this man a gold star.. pun much intended

lol

This comment made me die 😂😂😂🤣👍

Ironically Shapiro denies both the Israeli genocide & illegal seven-decade-long occupation in Palestine, as well as Trump funding the Saudi genocide of Yemen.

Ironically you keep using that word, I don't think it means what you think it means

Because ben took a break on certain people lol

I wonder why ben hasn't debated Cenk since.

He should he’d wreck Ben again

Jaden Wiley To each their own

@@charlieduckenfield9186 cenk obviously lost lol

Magnificent Cow bruh i saw your other comments all your comments are killing me.

you mean your COVFEFE haha

Did your comment "Another genocide for Cenk to deny" get deleted??? That was the best one

Bitches love crying over leftism 'till Russians soldiers start dragging mattresses out into the streets of Berlin.

hahahah best comment i've seen all year!!

Turkish Prostitute lol

LMAO the bacon background.

That name is so perfect 😂😂

Anyone else noticed Cenk walked out on stage with a stack of papers and reading it off during the debate? Cenk cheated and stilled lost... lol

Turkish Prostitute Thanks for adding to the view count.

They treat it like it's a sports game rather than a debate of ideas

@@yao052 not hard to do considering how dumb the average lib is.

@@yao052 what makes you think that guy is conservative, nothing in his comment is conservative or implys conservative beliefs

Funny you place yourself above them when you're just like them

Niki Bronson 8 months later, nice comeback

*lilv728* Maybe this was a problem 3 months ago, but it does have ads as of writing this comment. While I was checking though, I noticed that this video has about 10x more dislikes while having less total views, all of this despite them being the same video 🤷🏻‍♂️

Do more research...your sample size is a bit small...

@@Kyle_Schaff any video uploaded by chanel named after a genocidal movement would recive the same amount dislikes its nothing to be surprised about

richy koshy you cant even google and find the government on the first page. The Young Turk means to enact radical change in a group. This has nothing to do with the name, only miss-placed hate.

No tyt has four times as many subscribers dumbass

+Matal Hey that's not very nice, Ben didn't do that bad!

Brion Foulke I don't know man, if Ben can beat someone so bad that the opponent's channel 'loses' their livestream after Ben brings up a jaw-smacking point, I'd say it was that bad.

Brion Foulke Ben was cruel to pick on a guy half his IQ. This was brutal. Cenk thought this was his show where he could play with his own tone and sarcastically accuse his opponent via childish repetition. He effectively called Cenk and his show a hooker utilizing his own argument. Savage.

+Matal No I don't agree, I think it was a pretty even debate. Ben didn't actually do that well, and some of his points kind of fell flat. The same is true of Cenk, but he has his strong moments as well. The hooker comment was a nice zinger, but I don't think it had much meaning.

Brion Foulke Deep down, I expected a greater smack down than the performance that Shapiro put on. That said, even with my liberal hat on, I would say 50% of the debate went in Shapiro's favor, about 20 to Cenk with the remainder pretty even or going to neither. I just don't see the even score man. Cenk's message delivery falls apart as he tries to scrap together a coherent argument. His identity politics rebuttal is painful to watch. He screams "it's called America. Usa. Usa. Usa."

Ben isn't smart enough to roast anybody. He was super incoherent talking about how giving money to goverment is the same as giving money to a business, not even a high school student would say such a retarded thing.

Grass Hopper His business is politics

@@grasshopper3085 The government is a business, and is not immune to tyranny.

Grass Hopper smarter than you, it seems

@@grasshopper3085 seems you can't spot a roast with a bullseye on it. Xmas must be boring buddy 😂

Eclipse Thesun Shapiro has since embarrassed and discredited himself

Definitely

Nuancense this is my favorite

This is honestly one of the best comments I have seen lol. And as far as I see it's the only original joke on here.

Nuancense haha

Nuancense omg perfect comment

Now that is original!

The audience had their minds made up before these people even spoke. They weren’t laughing so hard once Cenk explained monetary circulation.

did you google it LMAO

Can't blame the guy when the audience can't keep up with simple logic.

Hahaha Simple logic? Because clearly any rational person would dogmatically agree with Keynesian economics and anyone purporting a different economic theory only does so because they're an idiot. Alrighty then. Clearly the Shapiro supporters are the only close minded ones ;)

Shapiro is a dick and his books suck.

Suddenly Bens points seem way more stupid, cuz they are.

@John Dough Sorry for having valid points

@John Dough You know it’s sad to see how bankrupt the right wing is of ideas, when they have to resort to ad hominem attacks

@John Dough First of all it's hilarious that you'll attack me for making a generalization and then generalize that minute percentage of BLM protests that turned violent as all liberals. Secondly I apologize for stereotyping you as right wing without knowing but I don't know that you can complain as you categorized me as a liberal which is something I don't identify as. Finally, Cenk insulting the crowd, was probably not the best way to win them over, has nothing to do with what we're talking about but if ya wanna talk about that I suppose we can.

@John Dough That's fine, just don't get pissy with me because I casually called you a right winger, when you just throw around political labels like confetti. Congratulations you like one democrat, I hate 95% of the politicians in DC and my political center isn't derived from saying nominally nice things about members of a party I should not like based on my beliefs.

He had balls for a man who pretends to have them

Cenk lost, but he beat the spread. He wasn't nearly as bad as I thought he was going to be. Besides calling the audience stupid and chanting USA, he did better than expected.

It was to be expected. Anyone who saw his "interview" with Sam Harris knows what happens when he is faced with someone who's intellect outclasses his own.

The real question is: Does Cenk at least have the balls to admit he lost? (Kind of hard to imagine from somebody who has to act through mores lies in a day than most people in a life time. Or maybe he is that stupid. I dunno)

We must not have been watching the same debate. All Ben had was straw men arguments and ad hominem attacks.

Aaa R 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Aaa R lmao we know that

I also Googled it and it said Cenk won.

Cenk won? The dude was raped. Ben looked him in the eyes and made Cenk call him daddy.

I looked it up on Pornhub and it brought me to the rape section

Not likely, since self awareness and self - criticism doesn´t exist in their smug little SJW - universe. They´re absolutely convinced that everything they say, and do, is the correct and final truth. They are, according to themselves, the pinnacle of evolution and fact based intellectual discourse. A Young Turk can´t be wrong - it´s impossible. And if you don´t believe them - just Google it.

The Colonel nah they wont. They're too stupid even collectively realized chunk lost.

+BadGuy "...minimize the humiliation while they're looking transparent and Nobel too." *noble

If you asked me I wanted to know more about Cenk after this debate meaning Cenk is probably going to get more publicity after this.

^because dumbasses want to get to know other dumbasses.

ah ah ah! you forgot to add “progressive superstar”, silly!

As an independent, I thought cenk held his own. To suggest Ben shapiro "destroyed" cenk is intellectually dishonest. They both made great points throughout the entirety of the debate.

"Cenk Uygur takes on conservative Ben Shapiro in a battle of wits" I think you mean Ben Shapiro executes an unarmed man.

@@RandomHistory Ben is only capable of destroying college kids. When he interviews with the big boys he embarrasses himself. Watch the interview with Andrew Neil.

@@floki5605 Ben's most famous moments were outside college Watch his debate with Cenk Uyghur.

Googled it and saw that he lost. BEN > cenk shit

"BenShapirowonbecausehetalksreallyfastandsaysthingsthattherightdoesn'tquestioneventhoughwhathearguesagasinstisoftenastrawman." -Ben Shapiro

Tim Symons Ben never said that... Google it...

Shady ass Channel. They are deleting comments. Cenk just admit that you are a Sore LOSER!

I agree Cenk won, because he spent the bulk of his time making his points and explaining them, whereas Ben spent much of his time asking Cenk questions.

I like how Ben seems to have borderline personality disorder when it comes to debated points that are not all or nothing. Cenk says "history tells us that a higher tax rate doesn't stifle economic growth" Ben responds "well, then why don't we just make taxes 100%? Huh?" Crazy.

Tuxedo Mask did you even watch the debate, Cenk got wrecked.

Yeah we get it, if you're left, Shapiro got killed, if you're a neocon, Cenk got burnt, what ever side you're own, you can jerk off to your opinion no matter what, the problem with that kind of idiotic behavior, is that you're not listening to both sides, you're jerking off in your echo chamber and that's what neocons do the best.

Cenk got his water buffalo ass handed to him... lol.

what did he cenk was gonna happen

You missed one @27:56 >TRY TO FOLLOW ALONG

how so we why do u want to celebrate lack of education thats the problem celebrating stupidity , whats embarrasing is booing him for making a valid point and not understanding the point

tendai ndoro point wasn't valid.

PS3pwns What's so embarrassing

google it - means that it is almost common knowledge and easily accessible. Uneducated - means that you do not now enough about the subject and you should look into it - uneducated does not mean you do not have college degree, it just means that you you (no matter of what level of education you have) do not know about the subject at hand. Southern strategy - come one, it can't be a surprise that republicans targeted racist people? USA USA USA - if you want to bw what you preach (number one/best) you got to act acordingly, or demand/cheer on that actions are taken to become it. OF COURSE! - come on who are you kiddin', this is obvious and should go without saying + catch phrase.

Ben Shapiro in a nut shell

@@koshka02 remind me which ones paid by a billionaire to be told what to think ?

@@BlankyLover9000 huh?

@@BlankyLover9000 We all get paid to think, you’re going to have to be more specific.

@@Luis_GonzaIez right wingers specifically get paid by billionaires to spread propaganda. lying is where all the money's at.

We all know Cenk wrote that himself

R u surprised?

You don’t think a staff person wrote that description? I’d imagine writing captions is probably not part of Cenk’s regular duties.

We all know that he is deluded beyond redemption - he actually supported Obama.

He doesn't run the whole network, my friend. He has production staff and people who do all the posting the channel. I am 99 percent sure that he is not responsible for writing video descriptions. It is probably the person or people who edit the videos who post them and promote them.

Audience was being biased

Tropics 317 Or maybe you're a little biased against the audience?

Syphaxis If I were biased towards the audience I would definitely be in favor of Ben Shapiro’s side, so i’m not being biased. I think at one point the audience was just waiting doe Ben to say anything logical to clap and shout for fun.

So they're biased in favor of logic?

Syphaxis “i think at one point they were just waiting for Ben to say anything logic in order to clap and shout for fun”. I think i had to restate that for you since you’re obviously looking for a strawman

Ben Shapiro didn't even respond with inteligent responses... He either makes a bunch of shit up or oversimplifies and skews arguements. He never directly addresses any of the questions...

Devin McLaughlin yeah and you support "Google it"

Aaron Filibeck and what's wrong with that? Sure.. I think he phrased it poorly but his point behind that was that we are so accustomed to Google as all of our main search engine..... To the point where saying Google it is synonomous to saying... Research it. Cenk did provide facts and explained them. But in a debate obviously you are verbally saying those facts.... Not showing them directly... So he is saying if you doubt what I am saying just research it and see it for yourself. that doesn't take away from his points and argument at all. The phrasing wasn't the best but it wasn't an outright wrong thing to say necessarly either.

GhastlyCloud 775 I the USA part I agree was overboard and unecessary but the google part as i already explainrd was phrased poorly but has a valid meaning behind it.

Next time you have the same impulse that inspired that comment, first, watch the same debate we all did, and then think to yourself, "must not say something that exposes a total lack of comprehension on the Internet again."

Robert Hays boiiiii😂😂

Andrew Hidalgo bcuz most of the crowd was hanging on every little word he said.

The crowd was obviously hostile before they even began, regardless of the points either side made. You could tell that much even before the two walked on stage.

JackgarPrime If you watch Politcon 2016, Cenk had the audience on his side when he made personal attacks against Dinesh but Cenk was unprepared when he realized they weren't on his side, made evident by frequently insulting the audiences' intelligence

Andrew Hidalgo The crowd was stupid.

Only part of the story. Ben Shapiro was vulgar, petty, ad hominem. And more often.

Now all you have to do is believe it yourself.

BBBmarko It's so interesting, I saw the same debate and drew the opposite conclusion. Do you find strawmen argumenta that persuasive?

Trey Top Dog Ellis do you find "google it" as a persuasive argument?

It's amusing that conservatives have reduced one hour of statements from Cenk as "Google it." I guess I'm then justified in applying that logic to Shapiro's performance. His one hour of comments can be reduced to an ad hominem fallacy of calling Cenk a prostitute and a conflation of U.S. cancer treatment statistics with the global U.S. healthcare ranking.

All Cenk did was appeal to emotion and try to talk louder with a smoother cadence as if that were improving his argument. He was unable to refute almost all of Ben's arguments

You're delusional if you think ben won the debate

@@danteghazizadeh1656Objectively what in the hell criteria did Cenk satisfy that convinced you he won?

@@maninthewilderness3208 he gave good answers to all of Ben's strawmans and ben couldn't come up with good responses. Just because cenk talked loudly and got heated doesnt mean he lost

@@danteghazizadeh1656 dude you watched a different debate than the rest of us. Im not gonna say cenk got slaughtered, but he definitely didn't win!

@@TonyMontana-lh5bp explain how. Explain which policy ben beat cenk on.

You are like chee chee chee chee rony they make at home

Ben won the battle but lost the war. The republican party is clearly corrupt & rotten to the core. Ben defended money in politics, the iraq war, denied the wallstreet crash, said universal healthcare is pointing guns at doctors, etc. His stances have aged badly while Cenk was right all along, despite being clumsy that day & being overtalked by Ben.

@@tomswanson5480 Biden has been a huge step forward from the shit show the past 4 years but since he's a corporate hack & bluedog, the progress has been very limited. The checks he got out have helped me alot & I paid off my car. He used the defense production act to get out more vaccines. But otherwise we still need a progressive

@@tomswanson5480 because nobody will hire me & my last job was terrible. I don't have the energy to get up early everyday & bust my ass. I do work at Postmates & have delivery days. Also trumps covid bills were huge bailouts for the banks, your side has no room to talk.

@@tomswanson5480 being a corporate slave is opposite of freedom. You sound like you embody the toxic workaholic mindset that plagues America, that tells us we live to work instead of work to live.

You don't understand TYT. They are all about AIR-TIME, not being right. They know that there's no such thing as bad publicity, which is why they have been spamming up RU-vid since the site went up around 2006. Cenk realized that there's no limit to how much video-content he can upload, and that you can't win an argument against someone who uploads more content in an hour than there are hours in a DAY... there will always be an armhy of idiots who eat it up. Then he sponsored his RU-vid content, so that it would spam up everone's sidebar with recommented TYT videos. Finally RU-vid stopped paying for views, and so TYT has been disappearing ever since.

So give props for bare minimum? Le lol.

@@SovereignStatesman TYT doesn't even run live shows all day... and Shapiro hardly ever knows what he is talking about. TYT also understands the RU-vid algorithms, hence why their shows are easily distributed. Then, they have in depth analysis, even bringing people like Shapiro and Prager onto their show... something which Ben seems too scared to do. Cenk also regularly thanks his coworkers for their time, and dedication to spreading their own message using the Platform TYT provides... Do you even watch TYT videos?

yea and ben put out like 30 seconds of one point....says a lot. Look the only real difference between these two is that ben is an individualist and the turks tend to care about collectivism and looking at policy from a perspective of everyone, not just the richest.

Why wouldn’t they. Cenk did great against Ben lol

he borrowed a page out of Ann Coulters playbook and he called them uneducated because they seemed unfamiliar with the concept of money getting more or less recycled in the economy depending, maybe they should grow some skin because facts dont care about your emotions.

The concept he proposed was preposterous. I will say, I haven't heard it described in detail, only as Cenk defined it (feel free to post a link with better detail, I couldn't find one).

Phil Robertson It is extremely simple. If you give money to wealthy people they will 'invest' it -- and this may, or may not, lead to economic improvement. If you give money to poor people they will spend it -- this means that the money flows through the economy immediately.

boggistthecat - Wouldn't it be better to give companies the money to invest in additional workers and higher wages which can then be subject to payroll taxes, puts people to work, increases GDP, personal wealth growth, and spurs innovation rather than just giving handouts to those who do not produce while maintaining a safety net for those who cannot?

Except that doesn't happen. They don't invest in workers anymore. Their goal, naturally, is the bottom-line, even it means cutting corners. They invest in outsourcing production to countries with people that will accept lower wages and work conditions, technology to replace humans with automation, and lower wages and hours for workers that are still clinging on to their payrolls. There has been very little innovative progress, since companies rarely take risks like they used to. Instead, they rely on tiny improvements on a proven system for steady revenue. Sure smaller startups may drive the progress of innovation, but they just get gobbled up by older, bigger, and richer corporations that don't know what to do with it and squander it. Look at Apple. Ever since Steve Jobs died, the company hasn't really come out with anything really new. Its basically the same old phone with new bells and whistles. No real radical changes in the last few years, aside from the Apple Watch

Lol 😂 me too

Wrong

Cenk destroyed Ben! Were we watching the same video? Wow reading thru these comments I’m shocked. I guess we all still hear what we want to hear. I thought Cenk kicked ass. Ben is smart but he came up with very poor rebuttals.

@@laralovesliam pls tell me the instances where Cenk "destroyed" Ben, I'd like to know.... go ahead I'm waiting....

@@keshavleitan7800 I think your talking to Cenks alt because there is no way they genuinely think this

fallansaint what were you watching lol

@@tookie36 His description is accurate. The degree to which Ben won this cannot be overstated.

talking points and gotcha lines don't equate to facts. Ben lost handedly.

Funny how if this was the other way around the right would be crying for months straight talking about "muh free speech"

@@11moleman Losing a debate does not imply an infringement on free speech... Are you living under a rock?

HAHAHAHA!! This comment is EVERYTHING!!

Chris Hedges would eviscerate Ben.

Marcia Stone this comment is nothing.

Jooshi McKenski RIP SHAPIRO

Cp3jordan95 We defeated your fascist ass in 1944-1945. Next!

Liked the video because they posted unedited regardless of the clear outcome.

Yecnay like so more people see it!!!

I disliked but liked it on the daily wire channel

Yecnay dislike it

Dislike it on here and like it on the Daily Wire.

Unfortunately, it was about how our educational system is failing.

Chunk Yogurt learned more than he never did.

LOLOLOL LOLOLOLOL he learned to never forget the lube.

They both did

FEELINGS lost-facts won-tail between Cenks legs as he takes long walk of shame home.

I agree. In the future, someone should edit these debates to cut out the audience. The crowd seems to think they're at a rap battle and not a debate.

10 seconds into Ben talking and I am annoyed as hell.

@@HammerStern0 that's what we have devolved into.

@@brucethedruid took you that long?

Bruce Wilson cenk couldnt even say three words without looking up for applause lmao

When he focused on Social Justice, Pc Outrage and Indentity Politics, I think you're right, but when he talked about universal Healthcare and taxes, I think Cenk was a 100% right. You can disagree, but thats my position.

Thumthumz agreed

Loreaver you both are delusional to think that cenk won

He meaning Cenk is on point when it comes to Social Deomocarazy

Ben won on everything, but health care. Absolutely wonderful debate!

Hey bro.

Lmao same. Ben is the best.

Me too homie

The Joker: Ben is not much smarter than Cenk, otherwise he would have pointed out Cenk's logical fallacies (which are ENDLESS). Ben is just another right-wing radio jock, parroting the same tired neocon lines claiming a free market, when it's obviously under Cronyism. Ben knows the trees, but misses the forest.

Red Bricks thank you I completely agree. I support Ben but I still wanted to hear Cenk. I wish they would have just shut up

Red Bricks it's not because he seems right it's because he is right and cenk can't debate worth shit lol

Red Bricks i see your point but how do you know what theyre thinking...youre assuming theyre all too dumb to think about things

Damion Scarberry No its because Ben "sounds" right because he seemingly speaks more intelligently and turns the argument into extremes that sound to the audience like something they should cheer for. The audience legitimally doesnt understand what Ben is saying, it just sounds right to them and resonates with their "understanding" of life

Vast majority of people are stupid. There, I said it. It's true. And they're not concentrated on one side or the other. IQ has no political bias.

Baron would utterly destroy Cenk.

Woah, woah.. Why are you starting Cenk out on hard mode?!

You can't win a debate with a time traveller

duke if the buffalo couldn't best some jew, what makes you think he can take on a 5D chess playing time lord?

Baron is better at minecraft tho

We dem Boyz still here dumb ass

Melissa Martell I'm just as surprised as you!

RU-vid has been circulating top comments for years now.

Shady channel, deleting people comments.

Been 5 hours, it's still here. Why didn't they delete this one, hmm?

Ten fold.

Yeah, I only donated 5 bucks and he slashed my taxes. Hell yeah

A lot of his predictions have come true...

Oh yeah well why don't we just tax everyone at 100% and then all our problems will be solved answer me that smart guys

AH HAHAHAHHHHH cenk is gay

Bet you didn't Google it.

sure but that's not the argument

If low taxes are so great why not just get rid of taxes? thats how dumb Bens question was.

You "pwned" yourself when you said "pwned"

+Iron Mark That wasn't a "debate" with Sam Harris, it was a conversation and I thought a pretty interesting one.

Don't forget Dinesh D'Souza, a below average intellect that looked like Einstein with Cenk in the room.

Dont forget about Dinesh

Cenk lost when he started insulting the crowd for not agreeing with his flawed logic.

533watts let’s be honest the video and audio quality is much better on the tyt video

Duck duck go

bitchute

VoyagerOne, they sure can, and we can call out their immaturity, some times it's better to cut your losses and admit you list on the day. Buy hey typical double down strategy.

KyleTheFinnegan They can't accept the defeat lmao 😂 just like the 2016 election Lolz 😂

@voyager buahahahah u and Cenk are gay af!!!!!

Soon Tian Why do people call Cenk a buffalo? Lol. Not that I'm his fan...Am I missing something?

Human Sixty-Four As far as I know AIU started it when he began referring to cenk as a "fat brown buffalo" (for obvious reasons) anyways I guess the nickname just circulated through the Internet lol

These jokes keep getting better lol.

It's the same as saying "that's a fact and to not say so is lying."

But did you even try googling it?

During a debate where you have very limited time, and the audience wants to boo actual facts... you don't have the time to explain it to them with crayons. If you choose to be ignorant of the facts when you can easily verify them in a matter of minutes... you can't really be helped.

@@JayS-js6xb I somewhat get what you mean because I can never think of stuff off the top of my head, but Ben Shapiro almost always has an exact source for his information, and if your going to be in a debate at politicon, you should probably come prepared with your sources and be able to think over the booes. (I'm not someone who could, but I'm also not up there debating)

@@JayS-js6xb So Ben can and Cenk can't.

You didn't listen to the debate did you?

You serious?

@@rsnordhagen did you?

arkoraa they're obviously mostly right duhh imagine what Ben would say if it was full of lefts

Biased audience

arkoraa because he lost...Goggle it

because they dared to laugh at him!

+Chief Cano Watch Ben's debate with Sally Kohn. The audience is tilted to the left there. Ben doesn't go low for a pathetic reason like the audience mostly not agreeing with him, unlike Cenk. Says a lot about the two of them.

Michael Sosa they don't allow rape

Michael Sosa 😂😂😂😂😂

😂😂😂😂😂😂

LoneStar rip Chunk's brain never-2017

So he recieved a brain in 2017?

no chance

LoneStar Cenk got bent over, by Ben, in a forceful riotous rage. While, same time, Cenk lapped up and regurgitated repeditly, Bernie's, hot feces over pasta special. Cenk and the Venezuelan Aristocrats!

*Chunk Yogurt

LOL Agreed. That guy has no business even being on the same stage as Ben. He completely killed him.

Accurate

Youre insane if you actually believe that. Ben spent 40% of his time trying to push reductio ad absurdum while cenk had to repeat himself at least 7 times that a system takes balance. Ben tried to push the idea that we have better healthcare because of cancer survivors, (pathetic). cenk was the fact based one there referencing net scores and mortality rates while ben was busy cherry picking to push a false narrative that supports his position. Cenk referenced other countries to prove the cost is less (facts) and the results are better, ben speculated on how a free market would ideally work (speculation). The list goes on. Cenk was the fact based arguer here, ben was the rhetoric based arguer. Prove me wrong with facts.

Apparently getting booed means you lost, even though most of Ben's arguments were strawman fallacies or just flat out lies.

Like botted

False narratives were pushed by Cenk not Ben. Obamacare is not that wonderful either.

something a five year old would do and not whine and complain "wahh where are your sources?" This is a professional political debate, not a university undergrad history research paper.

It isn't anyone but Cenk's job to validate Cenk's argument. If your argument boils down to "just google it", you've lost. Period.

Kevin Walter cenk did do his research and people booed in the audience because they felt insulted which is what truth does reveal facts not cater to emotion. The only reason cenk said Google it is literally in reaction to the audience. That is how debates are done. No one asks republicans or corporate democrats to show their sources on tv or in actual campaigns or debates so why hassle cenk unless you got something to gain from it.

That's the most inaccurate statement I have come across so far in this comment section. Debates are done in a fashion so that the persons debating never have to specify where they have received their factual evidence? I guess that is why Shapiro always wins. He always cites exactly where he gets his facts from.

Kevin Walter I assume that means Ben need to answer for his hyperbolic responses then. Cenk: You need to find the right balance of wealth redistribution. Ben: Taking it to its logical extreme, everyone can only afford to buy hamburgers.

If you want to know about theft, ask some native Americans ...

No wheel.

Love watching liberals resort to name calling when they know they're wrong.

So if I go to your house and steal your car you won't report it then? Ok.

+Jonathan: Taxation is not justified in the Constitution. It is clear that taxation is to pay for collective goods, and in the cases where it is agreed to be a good like fire depts, public education, roads etc, few would raise a fit. But consider how much of your tax money went to pay for wars and a military industrial complex that you would not likely agree with, and that few would likely agree with. And people can organize to use collective funds to purchase collective goods, without the threat of jail time, without coercion, and this is just organization. For example when a community raises funds to build a park. You must admit that taxes pay for many things you find immoral and would not volunteer to pay for in a million years.

Min Shapiro. Search "young ben shapiro gets defeated by a punching bag"

A timestamp woulda made your comment legendary 😆👌🏼

@@elderlord5164 🤣🤣🤣

It's because they use logic and facts instead of emotion and name calling. Emotion changes but facts don't. People are seeing the truth; it's taking time, but it's coming through.

LOL "logic and facts"? They don't agknolege the Koch funded study that says Medicare for All saves money, or that some version of single payer works in every developed country except the US because it is corrupt, or the fact that no one ever asks how you pay for bombs, but every conservative (except for Ron Paul and sometimes Rand Paul, they are consistant and also say it about bombs) always is jumping on progressives for how you pay for programs actually benefit you.

Excuse me? Have you been in a RU-vid comment section before?? Most people have hard right political views

Yeah, you know its baffling. People going against their own interests. At least on the surface. People get conned by those protecting their money, who point to other people to blame for problems. The Trump voter, the white rural voter fall for it. All the while the wealthy sing their way to the bank.

BarcaFans HD Frankly, it doesn’t matter if they’re republican or democratic. All that matters is the person as an individual.

Sup Sap Those were my exact thoughts

Sup Sap The guy is so full of himself.

If Cenk is a Progressive "Superstar", then progressives are going to die a slow and painful political death.

I think Ben and cenk didn't disappoint

You're right, Cenk didn't disappoint. He got demolished just as everyone thought he would.

Indeed, Shapiro delivered on that close-shaven sophistry that he is known for.

@sayer mowat Absolutely true. Cenk got SLAUGHTERED.

Cody Olds but he doesn’t debate Kyle kulinski? Lol he’s a prick

Well, Ben is quite pastie. Lol

He exaggerates a lot, if not outright lies. Except when he tells the truth.

Went over your head.

@@yoellopez82 just like how my comment went over yours?

mambobro Shapiro has a machine gun mouth that spouts data ...Cenk had much more substance ....

Is data not "substance"?

Tim Eales not when it's used to conflate issues

Shapiro got destroyed

Data puts issues on a logical platform. Data matters a lot. the data(reality) refutes liberal ideas so it must be annoying for Cenk.

Andrew Knepper lol bad idea for a backdrop

Also fitting 'POL' was pointed at Ben.

Andrew Knepper moron

Andrew Knepper subliminal messages

you obviously suffer from dyslexia -- besides being just plain stupid

When you talk down to the crowd and basically call them stupid because they don't buy your bullshit, expect to get booed out of the building. Instead of giving facts and statistics, he says "GOOGLE IT". That means he doesn't have an answer, but if you scour the extremely liberal internet search engine hard enough, you can find something that sort of validates his argument. Even if that source isn't beholden to any facts or statistics of it's own...

@@Gottiline_Ace You guys BOOED him before he was even on stage! You booed the mention of his name. Don't act like you are just responding to something Cenk said. That's a lie.

@@DonnaBrooks You guys? Partake in Identity politics much? I was making a valid point as to why the crowd turned on your beloved brown buffalo. You remedial buffoon.

Hard not to boo someone who supports islamic terrorism

​@sayer mowat They were booing the person not his stance on this debate... obviously.

The moderator lost.

Omfg thank you for that comment

If Googling something only takes a second why did not Cenk do this before hand and actually cite the supporting evidence. Using Google as some sort of mysterious fact athority is still committing the appeal to authority fallacy. This is not an actual fact reference but baseless claim that there in lies the fact. It's the "non-citation" citation, "Google it, I'm right". How about you come prepare to provide the actual facts, not mere citation appeals to a search engine.

Looked up Hebrew Hammer for shits and giggles. It looks fuckin amazing.

Social Liberal Pepe Citations please?

the Coult vs AK was much closer, though I believe the conservative took that one as well.

countof3everybodyOD too bad they're deleting pro Shapiro comments

We Slice and Dice yeah they are, I hope someone has been screenshotting. that's astoundingly pathetic

countof3everybodyOD I know right

We Slice and Dice bullshit your comments are still on.

Stupid ppl only. Not all.

all conservatives are morons who just need someone to agree with them, even if the points they make are awful

Because he is. Cenk yogurt just says “Google it”

@@Zulu_Infinite Ben is definitely not correct. Most of the stuff that comes out of his mouth is BS. This idiot doesn’t believe in regulating drugs. I worked in all FDA regulated industries. Trust me, big Pharma should be regulated. Ben is a straight up racist. I’ve watched him attack ADOS people specifically and generalize the entire race. Ben S. is an unapologetic racist. He’s a very sick individual.

Too bad it wound up being a joker card instead 😂

AliveWithPassion Women

BrainDead, you're living up to your name, there was just as much uproar for Shapiro.

Yeah and then imagine one of the candidates would start screaming at the audience. That would really be annoying. And weird. And misguided. And awkward.

Chrizzie 78 No kidding! When Cenk started actually insulting the crowd I physically recoiled, cringed and gagged. That was literally more cringey than the “AEIOU” segment from House of Cards, and it was real!

agreee.. those are sold/bought sheeps in the town market

Who doesn’t underestimate it, he welcomes it

I’d argue he’s part of it

Cruciatum yeah he debates morons

Brian Robles is there a smart leftist?

Cruciatum Undefeated at a strawmen building contest. : )

Trey Top Dog Ellis can you give examples of the strawmen?

Dr. Taylor de Marcken, MBChB, Pharm.D could you explain how that works?

They thought he won

@@VerticalStrafes thats the level of stupidity by the young turks....

maybe its because they’re honest unlike Shapiro…

@@carstarsarstenstesenn maybe it's because they are re-trying the worst catastrophe of the twentieth century...... without looking at it....

Carsten Kuehn Theyre both honest, but Shapiro is the only one that’s correct.

Dennis Reynolds right you fucktard Free college is a very fucked up thing Free healthcare is a mistake Plz save us in Norway from this shit But you know u guys must support terrorists in syria destroy iraq and iran and China and give Israel 10 billions a year So keep believing this Ben guy because he talks fast about things you really don't understand

Your country is completely irrelevant on the world stage. Seriously, Norway could crash and burn and nobody would even notice. If the US economy has a hiccup, everyone feels it.

Destroyed? I disagree. Besides the audience jeering and not, at what point did Cenk get destroyed?

Keemstar Is Keem you don’t know about*

Keemstar Is Keem um look see well but look...Goggle it

Keemstar Is Keem According to Google Ben won

It's not that Cenk was unprepared, but he can't just make people believe him. He stated facts a few times that some in the audience obviously didn't believe. In saying, "Google it," or "look it up," he was basically saying, "You don't have to believe me. Pull your phone out and research it for yourself, you'll see that I'm correct." I think that's a fair position to take, though I do think it's also fair to say that the way he stated it came off as condescending.

TrentRidley It’s more than just that. Ben doesn’t just say something. He always has a source to cite, unlike Cenk. It’s like he downloads the entire internet into his head before going onstage. The way Ben presents his facts just makes him more believable than Cenk

i guess ann coulter has never won a debate then. the fact stands that this audience bood cenk when he entered the room, makes the Shapiro fanboys seem extremely weak and soft.

Ben didn't give his side of the argument on alot of his own questions he asked cenk in all honesty and alot of the questions were actually pretty dumb he was asking cenk like should we tax people at 100% or 0%? or what's the exact percentage we should tax the whole country? or so cenk you think politicians who take money for personal favors are like men geting away with prostitution you must be a prostitute for having someone invest in your business than like wtf?

I think Ann Coulter has lost a lot of arguments, and for the same reason as Cenk. At the same time, diminishing Shapiro's arguments by implying his fanboys largely populated to crowd, really is paying the same disrespect to the audience, as Cenk did.

Mark Seager "diminishing Shapiro's arguments by implying his fanboys largely populated to crowd, really is paying the same disrespect to the audience" Nope, its logical to assume that Bens fanboys populated the crowd because their booing was noticable when Cenk entered the room, therefore their continued booing means very little, is a faulty thermometer if you will. you could also call them hecklers.

Deathgate Deathstar You're right, ya know?

lmao

Cenk is annoying as hell in the debate.

I don't get crazy stupid over politics like some, but man giving yourself a title like "superstar" is douchey, lmao

Cenk should change the title to "Google it vs Ben Shapiro". All of Cenk agreements was backed up by random unknown articles not facts. Google it!

Well, yeah, this is his channel ;)

Agreed, like your comment :).

Alienating the audience was the side effect of sticking to his point and not just telling them what they want to hear.

He's not wrong tho lmao

In fairness, they won’t shut up and listen to at least see whether they agree or disagree.

😂😂

robert presley right you are sir

No I'm pretty sure Ben obviously won

topster888 my point exactly.

So who do you think won

Welcome to having an opinion. I think from a logical standpoint tho ben embarrassed cenk.

Dude the first 15 minutes is like 6 thug life moments alone

*103 actually

Well I was going to write something productive but it got erased while typing. Ben, you come off like the snot nosed kid that you are. Cenk, you should have destroyed the arguments the boy brought forth. You let too much slide and could have easily buried him in his rhetoric. In the end I call it a draw, which is sad because I so disagree with Ben's politics.

Ellis Waugh he didn’t because he can’t. Chunk got smoked, soy boy. Deal with it. Merica’ 😉🇺🇸

@@Ewaugh69 lol, you are one of the few. But I respect your opinion

This video should be labelled 'Graphics'.

One political position doesn't invalidate the entirety of that person's arguments for or against others.

Levi Gordon Chunk Yogurt 😂😂😂😂😂

dint see it that way shapiro kind of wnted crowd to get involved and would throw in rhetoric lines to get crowd in a frenzy , you want small government but you want to invvade other nations , that dosent make sense to me

“My wife’s not a doctor.” -Sen Bapiro

@@edgarbachman9037 my wife -borat

I’m late but first time watching this video and this comment took me out 😂😂😂😂😂

no chance

Josh Derenburger Cenk got bent over, by Ben, in a forceful riotous rage. While, same time, Cenk lapped up and regurgitated repeditly, Bernie's, hot feces over pasta special. Cenk and the Venezuelan Aristocrats!

Nope, Libertarian actually. I don't 100% agree with everything Shapiro says, but he clearly won. And Liberals are easier to make fun of. Case in point, replies like this.

I don't think Ben's slippery slope fallacy of "they're going to force my wife to provide care at gunpoint" was particularly well-reasoned either.

Someone needs to learn the differences between a phrase that is spoken and to be taken in the ''literal'' sense, and phrases spoken in a ''figurative'' sense. We call that ''comprehension'', dear children!

Also to be fair he gave evidence and reason to support his claims but the audience booed anyways if anything he said "google it" as a response to the audiences denile of the facts cenk mentioned.

+Bradley Harrison Here's the best counterargument I've heard that completely shuts down the "gunpoint" argument: In the US we have a right to a fair trial. So does that mean that they force lawyers to do trials at gunpoint? No... they get paid at a market price, just like any other profession, and it would be the same if people were given a right to healthcare for doctors.

Defense attorneys get market price. Prosecutors and court appointed defense attorneys certainly do not. And what happens if you don't like the verdict? Yeppers, yessiree...they send in the men with guns. All of government's power flows ultimately out of the end of a gun or a club held by an agent of said government. That is the very reason we should be very very careful about what we allow government to handle and why we have the 2nd amendment.