Cessna 182 and the search for the PERFECT landing 

Fly the aircraft all the way to the tie-down. Great perspective

As a low-time PPL that's basically only ever flown in 172s, and is looking to get checked out in my school's 182, this is very timely and very helpful.

Thanks for the great video, Jason! Thank you for what you do.

Excellent pointers with positive inputs. Thanks.

Thanks for this Jason and Paul. I'm in the same situation as Paul. Finished my private in a 172 and went out to buy a 182. I'm aware of all the challenges of the step-up especially the nose-heavy attitude. It is a manageable step-up but I'm spending plenty of time practicing solo or with an instructor. Kudos to you Paul for putting yourself out there on the big Internet and doing the right thing to get constant feedback from a CFI you trust.

Thanks a lot for this good explanatory video! It helps me a lot towards better landings with the C172 Reims Rocket with its heavy 6-cylinder in front.

Man I miss the 182! Our aero club had a 182P that we ended up scrapping as the engine was due for an overhaul and airframe was riddled with corrosion. Despite it being in pretty shite condition it was great fun to fly and so much better than a 172 of the same vintage. Yes, if you didn’t have that yoke all the way back (a lot more force required than the 172 - trim was important) a nosewheel landing could result and either a prop strike or bent firewall could follow.

Jason you are a rock star of aviation training. I LOVE THE VIDEO, keep it up and I cant wait for the next one.

Thank you Jason, another great video. :)

172 is very very easy. But the 182 has a lot of advantages

I'm a CFII and heli rated. I have 3000 hours in CJ3 and 13k+ total. The 182 is one of the hardest airplanes to land there is for most pilots...including me. I have a tendency to round out too high....CJ...hehe I have a 1964 H model and it has 40* of flaps...good luck landing with full flaps...especially if you dont fly it a lot. In 1970 they took 10* of flaps out so you can't exceed 30* there after....big difference. I also have Peterson Kenai (300hp with canard) and it will fly so slow you almost can't screw up a landing....HUGE difference between the two. The H model has a critical speed between flying and dropping with 40*....takes a lot of practice to land it decent for me because I don't fly it much. This vid was great....you're right.....the guy flies the airplane WAY too much....if you'll give it a chance it will fly itself. Just make minor corrections and monitor trends works best. I'm teaching my best buddy how to fly...he just can't quite get the sight picture down on the roundout and flair. Also...did we forget about HATTS and GUMPS? Gets the killers and works for me....old school Teaching landing is the hardest part if you ask me. Once your student starts making decent landings you're more than half way

I watch a lot of flightchops' channel as well, and I think this channel is really top notch for really helpful points. One thing I noticed is that landing the 182 looks a whole lot like landing a tail dragger. Would it be useful to learn to do three point landings in a cub to help transition to learning to land a 182 from a lighter 152 or 172?

Super high quality!

Thank you so much captain ! very useful and informative channel you created. Waiting to see more as a future student pilot :)...

The high nose attitude was definitely something I to get used to when I first flew the 182T. Great video. Will recommend that to my instructors to show to 182T newcomers!

Thank you so much 🥰

Some good points in the video but the one thing I took away from it was a 20 year CFII and a pilot with their heads in the cockpit consumed with the magic box in the panel. Pilot missed a call as he was busy fidgeting with his avionics. Get your head out of the cockpit close to the airport VFR.

Great tips for for RP!

Great video Jason.

Grerat info!

Thanks for the video!! Would be amazing to train IFR in the bay area!!

Hi Jason! Question... can you provide more detail on your Five A's you use for Arrival mentioned in this video? ATIS, Altimeter, Approach, Avionics, Airplane? I can probably guess most of it as a VFR pilot... (ATIS) Get weather info, (Altimeter) Change Altimeter accordingly, (Approach) either listen for what runway and pattern being used or get from Foreflight, Sectional Chart, etc. (I always have this info before arriving handy), (Avionics) set Radios and Nav accordingly to set up for landing, talk to Tower or CTAF, then (Airplane) fly the airplane to set up for entry into the pattern and a stabilized approach.

Awesome video as usual. The other big difference I've found compared with the 172 is you can't just "chop and drop". Landings are much better if you keep a little power in.

Nice. I think the pilot was a bit nervous. But I like that fact that you told him to just ask ATC if unclear. I’d rather he get clear than remain confused. ATC talk can be quick, especially if you are doing other stuff in cockpit. Well done!

Take a good look at the change of aircraft heading with each application of aileron on short final. Adverse yaw, meaning when left aileron is applied, nose yaws right, and vice versa. Firstly, this is an untidy situation, but it gets worse if you consider the secondary effect of that yaw, which is to cause roll in the direction of the yaw - exactly opposite what your are trying to achieve with aileron. This is one of the reasons that you need apparently excessive use of aileron to keep wins level, especially on finals, and then have a difficult approach. use enough rudder with each application of aileron so as to maintain aircraft heading, and half your landing problems disappear.

Awesome content!

Good jod Paul!

Maravilhoso voar.....

Great review and pointers, as I fly the same paint scheme 182T as well - HA!

i am an old crop duster with electric flaps, easy to 3 point with using the electric flaps

Our club has a 172 and a 182. Our insurance requires 10 hours transition with a CFI if a pilot has less than 100 hours and 5 hours transition for over 100 hours. I had about 400 hours mostly in a 172. 5 hours was way too long.

Thanks for this, my CFI when I converted to -172s is constantly hounding me about landing flat when my nosewheel is in no danger of touching, and I realize this is probably why. Nose heavy airplanes =(

Hey Jason, great and educational video - as always! Is the Jacobson Flare a standard procedure in your training? I checked it out some time ago and also heard you podcast about it but haven’t been able to implement it into my landings yet. Do you recommend the Jacobson Flare for every pilot?

I think the 5As are appropriate and useful for VFR flying, as well. Use it all the time.

Is the Depart Airport somewhere in San Jose , CA. I saw a Flying Tigers SEC 41 nose.

Long story short: just fly parallel the runway at 1 ft. height (flare) and wait for touchdown. If you come down the runway without excessive speed, you will have almost no float at all (i.e., no kinetic energy to dissipate). Why over-complicate this?

Do you want to see the engine at idle? If not, about how many rpm should a person land with?

Hello! A buddy of mine argues that it is not safe to land in a stalled condition. What are your thoughts on this?

damn what a sexy plane!!!. love it!!!.

Thanks for this video Jason! I am about to check out in a 182 and you probably gave me the most important tip to remember, that heavy, long nose. I flew a Cardinal to get my complex and it seems almost familiar so I will definitely watch for that! Also gonna try out that Jacobsen Flare... first time I've heard of it!

Why does he move the prop lever to full foward at 2,600ft?

I am afraid to land. Went into a 182 with a cfi, and on landing, a light 7 kt wind pushed nose just pointed left 15* over the numbers and so put in right rudder and then once on ground plane starts tracking off the right of centerline, similar on to, right rudder in and wind suddenly hits tail and turns nose left 20* at 400 ft after to, and oddly the ball is to the left despite mild rt rudder for to/full per. Very weird.

By the way, what camera are you using, if I may ask? The "selfie videos" look great and very sharp. Thanks a lot.

hi just want to ask what does the 5 A mean? i have idea bout atis, altimeter setting, i dont know approach? , avionics? , airplane? thanks for help!

I’ll take that landing. Can’t wait until I’m that smooth consistently. It feels like I’m regressing right now 😰

I use a booster seat when flying the 182

Is that your shoe squeaking when you walk? 😂

Seams like he needed more time learning his instruments before this flight.

Is it nuts that I'm tall enough I can see over the nose of the 182? lol. Great job.

Can you pls come help me learn how to land again?? In a small plane, I seem to have lost it. C182. I made better landings in my first few flights. It makes me want to leave aviation. Frustrating. I am scared of landings. Hate them. Seems I have become weak despite logging 27hrs in last 8 months.

Can you fit 4 adult in a 182?? Thank you in advance.

Unnecessary noise putting prop full forward even before entering the circuit

Isn’t GS shown somewhere on the MFD too? Maybe not in a 182...

I enjoy your videos but I must take exception to a statement you made:you stated that the 182 has a much bigger and heavier engine and therefore the nose will will come down quicker. Pardon me, but this is nonsense. The relationship between the main gear, the center of gravity and the nose wheel is pretty much the same on any tricycle aircraft. If the nose on the 182 was so heavy, it would simply not fly properly. What you're probably referring to is the fact that with only two people on board the center of gravity must be very close to its forward limit. But it has nothing to do with a heavier engine.

According to what???

The perfect landing for me is ... first touch to stop in 50 feet or less. Pilots need to define "perfect landing" for themselves. :-)

I fail to understand how that was "hard"

Want a perfect landing just about every time, get rid of those Cessnas and buy a Bonanza...Flying Cessna is like flying a wheelbarrow with wings.

Pretty scary. The typical scenario. Guy buys an airplane that exceeds his skill and proficiency. He has the money, but it bought him advanced technology that this guy paul is relying on to make up for his lack of experience. I am sure paul is a nice guy...but do you think anyone will tell paul the truth? This guy invites 3 golf buddies, they trust him thinking he is the "pilot" of all pilots. Meanwhile paul is scared and trying to act the part...friends have no clue

Bad instructing, way too much talking and interrupting, let the poor bloke have a fly

Want a perfect landing just about every time, get rid of those Cessnas and buy a Bonanza...Flying Cessna is like flying a wheelbarrow with wings.