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Challenge to Hadith Rejecters: Nieal & Fawze 

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Nieal & Fawze discuss the topic of hadith rejection and how if you reject hadith, then you reject Quran.
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Комментарии : 51   
@aboe5512
@aboe5512 День назад
My boy Nile nice wit it been waiting for this
@A11878
@A11878 2 дня назад
Hadeeth Absolutist vs. Hadeeth Rejectors. Popcorn in hand. ❤
@onetruthfoundation
@onetruthfoundation День назад
I wouldn’t say “Absolutist”. The whole point of the video is to say you don’t have to accept every Hadith. But if you reject a Hadith, find an issue with the sanad or matn. If you don’t do that, you have no basis for your rejection
@ahlammohammed7536
@ahlammohammed7536 День назад
My favorite part of the Quraniyoon movement is many don’t understand Arabic, and will debase (I use the term debase VERY loosely) using verses of Quran in English not having understood the Arabic or the science of Quran interpretation. You can not fully implement the teachings of the Quran without the example of the Rasul ﷺ because the Rasul ﷺ was the living embodiment of the Quran. Many Hadith rejectors will disrespect the Ulama of the past such as Abu Hanifa, Imam Malik, Abu Hurairah etc which in itself is a sign of clear ignorance.
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Quran, 41:44, If we made it a non-Arabic Quran they would have said, "Why did it come down in that language?" Whether it is Arabic or non-Arabic, say, "For those who believe, it is a guide and healing. As for those who disbelieve, they will be deaf and blind to it, as if they are being addressed from faraway." وَلَو جَعَلنٰهُ قُرءانًا أَعجَمِيًّا لَقالوا لَولا فُصِّلَت ءايٰتُهُ ءَأَعجَمِىٌّ وَعَرَبِىٌّ قُل هُوَ لِلَّذينَ ءامَنوا هُدًى وَشِفاءٌ وَالَّذينَ لا يُؤمِنونَ فى ءاذانِهِم وَقرٌ وَهُوَ عَلَيهِم عَمًى أُولٰئِكَ يُنادَونَ مِن مَكانٍ بَعيدٍ
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Your comment is all gibberish and only inflating your ego. Your opinions and desires are irrelevant. Stop beating around the bush and prove that teachings external to the Quran are authorized by Allah (Swt).
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Where did you get Quranyioon from. Those who stand with God Almighty's absolute authority accept the title MUSLIM that is given to us in the Quran. Now, where did you get the term "Sunni" from? How about "Sunnah of Muhammad?" Neither sunni or sunnah of Muhammad are in the Quran. I wonder which of your idols coined these terms for you to blindly accept without first verifying using the Quran.
@sakiyaa717
@sakiyaa717 2 дня назад
They’re looking for ways around putting in the work. Most have very little or no knowledge at all of ahadith and the chain of narration. Excellent podcast. Looking forward to what’s to come. JazaakumAllah khair
@onetruthfoundation
@onetruthfoundation 2 дня назад
Well said! May Allah SWT guide us all
@Freedom-px7tn
@Freedom-px7tn День назад
Can you please reference a single verse from the Quran where Allah (Swt) commands the final prophet to promote human beings to study, obey, or follow hadith external to the Quran? Also, this concerns your eternal soul so if I were you I would put in the work carefully studying the Quran, unless your mind has a lock preventing you from understanding. Quran, 47:24, Why do they not study the Quran carefully? Do they have locks on their minds? أَفَلا يَتَدَبَّرونَ القُرءانَ أَم عَلىٰ قُلوبٍ أَقفالُها [End]
@faledl7
@faledl7 День назад
@@Freedom-px7tnYou said a whole bunch of things and your comments were long and drawn out, however, why haven’t you just 😮addressed or responded to the challenges posed in the video? Perhaps you don’t have the answers!
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​@@faledl7Maybe you need to watch this podcast again. It consists of conjecture and both individuals failed to provide any evidence to why anyone should follow the sunni sect.
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​@@faledl7 Most of my comments include clear verses from the Quran. So why don't you stop beating around the bush and provide a single verse from the entire Quran that Allah (Swt) commands we follow any other source external to the Quran. The argument on this podcast about obeying Allah (swt) and obeying the messenger is a multiple meaning verse. The sunnis understanding of this verse points at sunni teachings. The shia, too, say that obeying the messenger consists of shia teachings. And so on and so forth. Anyone who is truly wicked will extricate their own meanings that is suitable to their desires. So those attempting to fool Allah (Swt) are in fact the ones being fooled.
@NanonNY
@NanonNY 2 дня назад
Hadith rejecting makes no sense. People too lazy to actually study
@Freedom-px7tn
@Freedom-px7tn День назад
Quran, 45:6, These are God's revelations that we recite to you truthfully. In which Hadith other than God and His revelations do they believe? تِلكَ ءايٰتُ اللَّهِ نَتلوها عَلَيكَ بِالحَقِّ فَبِأَىِّ حَديثٍ بَعدَ اللَّهِ وَءايٰتِهِ يُؤمِنونَ [End] Quran, 39:23, God has revealed herein the best Hadith; a book that is consistent, and points out both ways (to Heaven and Hell). The skins of those who reverence their Lord cringe therefrom, then their skins and their hearts soften up for God's message. Such is God's guidance; He bestows it upon whoever wills (to be guided). As for those sent astray by God, nothing can guide them. اللَّهُ نَزَّلَ أَحسَنَ الحَديثِ كِتٰبًا مُتَشٰبِهًا مَثانِىَ تَقشَعِرُّ مِنهُ جُلودُ الَّذينَ يَخشَونَ رَبَّهُم ثُمَّ تَلينُ جُلودُهُم وَقُلوبُهُم إِلىٰ ذِكرِ اللَّهِ ذٰلِكَ هُدَى اللَّهِ يَهدى بِهِ مَن يَشاءُ وَمَن يُضلِلِ اللَّهُ فَما لَهُ مِن هادٍ [End]
@NanonNY
@NanonNY День назад
@@Freedom-px7tnno one takes hadith INSTEAD of Quran 🙄. Obviously Muhammad SAW spoke words and did actions in his life. That’s what the hadith is
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​@@NanonNYHadith changed the shahada, steps of ablution, and generally took a perfect religion and flipped it upside down. Despite the schemes of the wicked in attempting to turn out the Light from Allah (Swt), the Most Gracious perfects His Light. All praise belongs to Allah (Swt)
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​@@NanonNY Allah (Swt) has NO PARTNERS! You people are clueless to the major injustice you are committing against Allah (Swt). If you believe Allah (Swt) gave us the Quran and the final prophet gave us hadith, then you are falsely claiming that Muhammad is a partner to Allah (Swt) who issued commands beside the commands from the Most High. Are you aware the Quran teaches believers that if the final prophet taught anything other than the Quran that Allah (Swt) would have stopped the revelations and punished the final prophet? You people don't understand that Satan's objective is to interfere in the Word of Allah (Swt) by repelling people away from the Quran.
@NanonNY
@NanonNY День назад
No one worships Muhammad or says hadith is the word of Allah. We simply follow Muhammad SAWs direction because he worshipped Allah better than you and I ever will
@onlyu2cme
@onlyu2cme День назад
Chapter 15 verse 9, how many Qur'ans was burnt and 1 was compiled. Therefore something was taken out and added, right?
@onetruthfoundation
@onetruthfoundation День назад
We don’t only rely on written text for preservation. We have a rich oral tradition which goes back to prophet Muhammad SAW. The Quran has and always will be memorized
@Freedom-px7tn
@Freedom-px7tn Минуту назад
With all due respect, anyone trying to cite an example to prove their claims in following hadith external to the Quran does NOT constitute proof. So these guys citing Abraham Lincoln, or not going to a restaurant, or making arrogant remarks like, "the funny thing is...." These guys are only inflating their ego's while making a fool out of themselves. This podcast is all conjecture! For believers who seek Allah Swt to guide them, please study the examples Allah Swt provides in the Quran. Quran, 17:89, 27:34 We have cited for the people in this Quran all kinds of examples, but most people insist upon disbelieving. وَلَقَد صَرَّفنا لِلنّاسِ فى هٰذَا القُرءانِ مِن كُلِّ مَثَلٍ فَأَبىٰ أَكثَرُ النّاسِ إِلّا كُفورًا [End] So do we really need these guys to cite examples, or do the examples Allah Swt cites suffice? Kill your ego's my brothers!!! All Exaltation belongs to Allah Swt alone!
@Freedom-px7tn
@Freedom-px7tn День назад
If everyone wants to be honest with themselves and with others the Quran is not in question. A Muslim and A Sunni is distinct only because of hadith or external teachings that make up the sunnah of Muhammad. Therefore, the burden of proof falls on those who believe in hadith or external teachings that make up the sunnah of Muhammad to prove why anyone should accept hadith external to the Quran.
@howdoin5900
@howdoin5900 День назад
The sunni is the teaching of the prophet, if you claim to follow quran than you know quran orders you to follow the prophets teaching. The prophet always taught the companions, they didn’t tell him, No, we only follow Quran. The people who started this movement that we follow quran only were hypocrites in the religion. In order to destroy islam. The sunni teaches us everything. How much zakah to pay, how many raka3ah in the prayers. How to preform umrah and Hajj and lots more. You cant be a muslim and reject sunni
@faledl7
@faledl7 День назад
@@howdoin5900 To be more accurate or precise you meant Sunnah NOT Sunni.
@faledl7
@faledl7 День назад
None of them studied nor understand the language of the Quran or grammar yet they want to explain it and tell us what it means. Just ludicrous if you ask me.
@onetruthfoundation
@onetruthfoundation День назад
Absolutely ludicrous
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​@@onetruthfoundation Your comment doesn't prove the sunnah of Muhammad is authorized by the Most Gracious.
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When one sincerely reads the Quran it's all about Allah (Swt). Once one pursues their own opinions and invite others to sources external to the Quran, notice how Allah (Swt) is no longer relevant and it's all about Muhammad? Again, believers know Allah (Swt) controls our faculties and can seal our faculties preventing us from understanding the Quran. Quran, 6:110, We control their minds and their hearts. Thus, since their decision is to disbelieve, we leave them in their transgressions, blundering. وَنُقَلِّبُ أَفـِٔدَتَهُم وَأَبصٰرَهُم كَما لَم يُؤمِنوا بِهِ أَوَّلَ مَرَّةٍ وَنَذَرُهُم فى طُغيٰنِهِم يَعمَهونَ Quran, 6:111, Even if we sent down the angels to them; even if the dead spoke to them; even if we summoned every miracle before them; they cannot believe unless God wills it. Indeed, most of them are ignorant. وَلَو أَنَّنا نَزَّلنا إِلَيهِمُ المَلٰئِكَةَ وَكَلَّمَهُمُ المَوتىٰ وَحَشَرنا عَلَيهِم كُلَّ شَىءٍ قُبُلًا ما كانوا لِيُؤمِنوا إِلّا أَن يَشاءَ اللَّهُ وَلٰكِنَّ أَكثَرَهُم يَجهَلونَ Quran, 6:112, We have permitted the enemies of every prophet - human and jinn devils - to inspire in each other fancy words, in order to deceive. Had your Lord willed, they would not have done it. You shall disregard them and their fabrications. وَكَذٰلِكَ جَعَلنا لِكُلِّ نَبِىٍّ عَدُوًّا شَيٰطينَ الإِنسِ وَالجِنِّ يوحى بَعضُهُم إِلىٰ بَعضٍ زُخرُفَ القَولِ غُرورًا وَلَو شاءَ رَبُّكَ ما فَعَلوهُ فَذَرهُم وَما يَفتَرونَ Quran, 6:113, This is to let the minds of those who do not believe in the Hereafter listen to such fabrications, and accept them, and thus expose their real convictions.* وَلِتَصغىٰ إِلَيهِ أَفـِٔدَةُ الَّذينَ لا يُؤمِنونَ بِالـٔاخِرَةِ وَلِيَرضَوهُ وَلِيَقتَرِفوا ما هُم مُقتَرِفونَ *6:113 The Quran provides criteria that tell us whether we truly believe in the Hereafter or merely give it lip service. These important criteria are stated here, and in 17:45-46 and 39:45.
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Satan fooling Christians to take Jesus as a god or son of god or one of three and Satan playing the Sects in Islam to add Muhammad as a partner with the Most High. Satan sent Paul to them and Bukhari to you all! Quran, 17:111, And proclaim: "Praise be to God, who has never begotten a son, nor does He have a partner in His kingship, nor does He need any ally out of weakness," and magnify Him constantly. وَقُلِ الحَمدُ لِلَّهِ الَّذى لَم يَتَّخِذ وَلَدًا وَلَم يَكُن لَهُ شَريكٌ فِى المُلكِ وَلَم يَكُن لَهُ وَلِىٌّ مِنَ الذُّلِّ وَكَبِّرهُ تَكبيرًا [End]
@Freedom-px7tn
@Freedom-px7tn День назад
😂To the brothers on the video, I highly encourage that you sincerely study the Quran alone and seek guidance from Allah (Swt) alone. Quran, 10:35, Say, "Does any of your idols guide to the truth?" Say, "God guides to the truth. Is one who guides to the truth more worthy of being followed, or one who does not guide, and needs guidance for himself? What is wrong with your judgment?" قُل هَل مِن شُرَكائِكُم مَن يَهدى إِلَى الحَقِّ قُلِ اللَّهُ يَهدى لِلحَقِّ أَفَمَن يَهدى إِلَى الحَقِّ أَحَقُّ أَن يُتَّبَعَ أَمَّن لا يَهِدّى إِلّا أَن يُهدىٰ فَما لَكُم كَيفَ تَحكُمونَ [End] The following verses proves that the final prophet was astray before Allah (Swt) guided him. Quran, 93:6, Did He not find you orphaned and He gave you a home? أَلَم يَجِدكَ يَتيمًا فَـٔاوىٰ Quran, 93:7, He found you astray, and guided you. وَوَجَدَكَ ضالًّا فَهَدىٰ [End] One cannot understand the Sunnah (System) of Allah (Swt) if one doesn't value Allah (Swt) as He should be valued. Elevating the messengers that Allah (Swt) sends to rival the Most High is a very dangerous crime and is unforgiveable in the Sunnah of Allah (Swt). Remembrance is a form of worship and we are all witnessing those who claim to be Christians constantly remembering Jesus. Remembering anyone other than Allah (Swt) constitutes idol worship. Quran, 2:200, Once you complete your rites, you shall continue to commemorate God as you commemorate your own parents, or even better. Some people would say, "Our Lord, give us of this world," while having no share in the Hereafter. فَإِذا قَضَيتُم مَنٰسِكَكُم فَاذكُرُوا اللَّهَ كَذِكرِكُم ءاباءَكُم أَو أَشَدَّ ذِكرًا فَمِنَ النّاسِ مَن يَقولُ رَبَّنا ءاتِنا فِى الدُّنيا وَما لَهُ فِى الـٔاخِرَةِ مِن خَلٰقٍ [End] Does the final prophet fall in the category to being any of our father's today: Quran, 33:40, Muhammad was not the father of any man among you. He was a messenger of God and the final prophet. God is fully aware of all things. ما كانَ مُحَمَّدٌ أَبا أَحَدٍ مِن رِجالِكُم وَلٰكِن رَسولَ اللَّهِ وَخاتَمَ النَّبِيّـۧنَ وَكانَ اللَّهُ بِكُلِّ شَىءٍ عَليمًا [End] So, if Muhammad was not the father of any of us, and Allah Swt teaches we commemorate Allah Swt like our parents, then why do many people commemorate Muhammad 24/7/365/70yrs? I am shocked to what I have witnessed on this podcast, subhanAllah. We were all created from nothing. Allah (Swt) created the earth and made it habitable for all humans to benefit. Allah (Swt) created mountains as stabilizers. Allah (Swt) created the human beings as mates for one another and created the human being to being reproducing creatures. Allah (Swt) created sleep so the human can get rest. Allah (Swt) made the night a cover and the day for the human being to seek provisions. Allah (Swt) built 7 universes above the human being and created a bright lamp. Allah (Swt) clearly reminds believers how Allah (Swt) created an amazing environment surrounding human beings in earth and outside earth, yet the human being doubts that the Most Gracious cannot provide human beings a Quran that is Perfect, Complete, Fully Detailed, and Infallible to name a few? Quran, 6:114, Shall I seek other than God as a source of law, when He has revealed to you this book fully detailed? Those who received the scripture recognize that it has been revealed from your Lord, truthfully. You shall not harbor any doubt. أَفَغَيرَ اللَّهِ أَبتَغى حَكَمًا وَهُوَ الَّذى أَنزَلَ إِلَيكُمُ الكِتٰبَ مُفَصَّلًا وَالَّذينَ ءاتَينٰهُمُ الكِتٰبَ يَعلَمونَ أَنَّهُ مُنَزَّلٌ مِن رَبِّكَ بِالحَقِّ فَلا تَكونَنَّ مِنَ المُمتَرينَ Quran, 6:115, The word of your Lord is complete, in truth and justice. Nothing shall abrogate His words. He is the Hearer, the Omniscient. وَتَمَّت كَلِمَتُ رَبِّكَ صِدقًا وَعَدلًا لا مُبَدِّلَ لِكَلِمٰتِهِ وَهُوَ السَّميعُ العَليمُ [End] So the Quran contains several verses that teach the same teaching as verse 115 from Surah 6, yet we are to follow those who are inviting us to believe the Complete Quran is incomplete and their teachings is what completes the Fully Detailed Quran? What else could the final prophet do beside solely deliver the Quran message and follow the Quran message himself when he was alive on earth? Doesn't the Quran teach that those who disbelieve in the Hereafter approached the final prophet and requested that the final prophet change the Quran? Quran, 10:15, When our revelations are recited to them, those who do not expect to meet us say, "Bring a Quran* other than this, or change it!" Say, "I cannot possibly change it on my own. I simply follow what is revealed to me. I fear, if I disobey my Lord, the retribution of an awesome day." وَإِذا تُتلىٰ عَلَيهِم *ءايٰتُنا بَيِّنٰتٍ قالَ الَّذينَ لا يَرجونَ لِقاءَنَا ائتِ بِقُرءانٍ غَيرِ هٰذا أَو بَدِّلهُ قُل ما يَكونُ لى أَن أُبَدِّلَهُ مِن تِلقائِ نَفسى إِن أَتَّبِعُ إِلّا ما يوحىٰ إِلَىَّ إِنّى أَخافُ إِن عَصَيتُ رَبّى عَذابَ يَومٍ عَظيمٍ [End] With all due respect to the gentlemen on this podcast, but you only shared your conjecture and conjecture is no substitute to the truth. I advise all and myself to seek guidance from Allah (Swt) and seek Allah (Swt) to soften the hearts so that one may attain sincerity. InshAllah, guidance is what follows when one demonstrates he is sincere. Quran, 26:92, They will be asked, "Where are the idols you had worshiped وَقيلَ لَهُم أَينَ ما كُنتُم تَعبُدونَ 26:93, "beside God? Can they help you now? Can they help themselves?" مِن دونِ اللَّهِ هَل يَنصُرونَكُم أَو يَنتَصِرونَ 26:94, They will be thrown therein, together with the strayers. فَكُبكِبوا فيها هُم وَالغاوۥنَ 26:95, And all of Satan's soldiers. وَجُنودُ إِبليسَ أَجمَعونَ 26:96, They will say as they feud therein, قالوا وَهُم فيها يَختَصِمونَ 26:97, "By God, we were far astray. تَاللَّهِ إِن كُنّا لَفى ضَلٰلٍ مُبينٍ 26:98, "How could we set you up to rank with the Lord of the universe? إِذ نُسَوّيكُم بِرَبِّ العٰلَمينَ 26:99, "Those who misled us were wicked. وَما أَضَلَّنا إِلَّا المُجرِمونَ 26:100, "Now we have no intercessors. فَما لَنا مِن شٰفِعينَ 26:101, "Nor a single close friend. وَلا صَديقٍ حَميمٍ 26:102, "If only we could get another chance, we would then believe." فَلَو أَنَّ لَنا كَرَّةً فَنَكونَ مِنَ المُؤمِنينَ 26:103, This should be a good lesson. But most people are not believers. إِنَّ فى ذٰلِكَ لَـٔايَةً وَما كانَ أَكثَرُهُم مُؤمِنينَ 26:104, Your Lord is the Almighty, Most Merciful. وَإِنَّ رَبَّكَ لَهُوَ العَزيزُ الرَّحيمُ [End] I testify there is no god worthy of worship except Allah (Swt) alone. None equals our only true Lord and Master.
@hhaythh8073
@hhaythh8073 День назад
The same Quran that you’re quoting right now, how did you get it? Was it not passed down by the same people you reject? Or did the Quran just fall onto your lap. Answer the question of how the Quran was complied and brought to you?
@faledl7
@faledl7 День назад
@@hhaythh8073 The problem is they do not know how, where it came from, and how it reached us. Their ignorance of the history of Islam is just another thing they are ignorant of: Arabic grammar, language, Methodology of Hadith, Islamic history…etc. Ignorance upon ignorance is a recipe for error and misguidance. Yet, they want us to believe and trust them! In sha Allah they open their eyes, ears, and heart and realize the error in this misguided path. May Allah (SWT) guide them to Truth of the Quran AND SUNNAH! 🤲🏼
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​@@hhaythh8073 The topic of discussion is not about the Quran. The topic of discussion concerns whether hadith external to the Quran is authorized by Allah (Swt). You are inviting others to follow teachings never authorized by Allah (Swt). So, the burden of proof falls on those repelling people away from the Quran. This podcast only substantiates that human beings are unappreciative creatures and instead foolishly allow for their opinions to lead them astray.
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​@@hhaythh8073 The following is your answer. Quran, 6:91, They never valued God as He should be valued. Thus, they said, "God does not reveal anything to any human being." Say, "Who then revealed the scripture that Moses brought, with light and guidance for the people?" You put it down on paper to proclaim it, while concealing a lot of it. You were taught what you never knew - you and your parents. Say, "God (is the One who revealed it)," then leave them in their heedlessness, playing. وَما قَدَرُوا اللَّهَ حَقَّ قَدرِهِ إِذ قالوا ما أَنزَلَ اللَّهُ عَلىٰ بَشَرٍ مِن شَىءٍ قُل مَن أَنزَلَ الكِتٰبَ الَّذى جاءَ بِهِ موسىٰ نورًا وَهُدًى لِلنّاسِ تَجعَلونَهُ قَراطيسَ تُبدونَها وَتُخفونَ كَثيرًا وَعُلِّمتُم ما لَم تَعلَموا أَنتُم وَلا ءاباؤُكُم قُلِ اللَّهُ ثُمَّ ذَرهُم فى خَوضِهِم يَلعَبونَ [End]
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