Challenging The World's #1 Rated Player With a Handicap 

Mangs, it's admirable that you try so hard despite your massive handicap of being bald.

Seeing Jake's normal power used so effectively is insanely satisfying to watch, what a legend

Zoomer beats old russian grandpa to a pulp and says "get the plates cuz you just got served!"

Hey Mangs, I don't know if you're gonna see this, but I just want to thank you for single handedly hooking me into watching your Advanced Wars By Web matches, and ALSO going further into making an account and genuinely thinking about playing some games. I may be just another person, but I do genuinely thank you for doing this much teaching! I'll use everything you've taught to try and win, wish me luck, and hopefully I get to get a match vs you one day.

AW really helps you getting to know your own worst impulses. GG to the Norwegian civil war.

1200 rating is no joke! Congrats on the achievement, and thanks for the great content. This was very interesting and entertaining to watch!

Previously: Mangs challenges the world #1, and gives them a tier 2 CO while he plays tier 4 Now: Mangs challenges the world #1, and gives them a tier 4 CO while he plays tier 2 You're learning!

7:17 He propably went for the property, because he knew a battlecopter was coming and capturing that base would be very hard once one was out. You also had no way of interrupting it, as no units were in range.

As a complete neophyte that only plays single player and war room maps, I'm kinda stunned that you admitted that your goal was to stall out a harsh winter win... but you didn't have any ranged units. You see all throughout the match that if you can guard an artillery, you can lock down an area. He may have extended range on power but you can do far more than keep a single column for a defensive wall. Between the pipe segments and mountains, you could at least keep some pathways more hazardous than not at all. Nevermind that a lot of your funds went into useless b-copters that spent most of their days idling around because all it would take is a single anti-air to turn them into free target practice. If I were playing, I'd probably mimic some of his loadouts and see if I could stall him out of formation and whittle away with the super. Plus you can see his mindset once a real formation comes out and try to at least keep it even. It may be boring but it would at least mean that you might last a few days longer. All that said, it's easy for a nobody like me to talk when it's all after the fact.

Followed this game. Pretty damn cool. And congrats on teaching 1200. That's nuts.

Global damage was the right choice. You can't really go wrong with it. I think the problem maybe have been all the battle copters. They seemed to ultimately not do anything because of how easily they get pushed out by AA. When you force someone to build lots of AA, they also gain the ability to absolutely slaughter infantry. So his AA counter your entire force, and his well covered Jake artillery counters your few tanks. That's about it, and you can't possibly get him out of the center now with the army you have.

They say that the difference between the mindset of a master and a newcomer is that a newcomer will believe they have attained the bulk of knowledge on a subject and that it's simple, while a master always feel that they have something new to learn. While you may have lost this battle, you have the mindset of a winner. Also your humility and patience in the face of defeat is very admirable. Well done. :)

Hey Mangs. The one thing that has continually upset me about watching these matches is trying to remake these wonderful maps in the games themselves. It turns out there's a lot things in AWBW that aren't possible in the games' actual map editors, such as one-tile shoals and reducing the maximum map dimensions. It's made things QUITE a challenge, but I keep trying!

I haven't played the Advance Wars series since the "back of the school bus" days, but seeing these AWBW battles makes me incredibly nostalgic. Thanks for recapping your battles, Mangs, it's wonderful to see someone give an in-depth look at how these battles break down.

This is my new favorite RU-vid genre. I love this game so much. Your commentary is absolutely vital for maximum enjoyment! Love this

Hey Mangs! You've definitely improved. Grandmasters don't destroy good players in one overwhelming attack. Good players know enough when to retreat and not fight losing battles. You made plenty of mistakes, but you didn't lose after the first super. That's worth talking about!

The handicap totally should have been "ok i use colin"

Incuggarch exemplified a PVP rule that I learned long, long ago in games like this. When get ahead, spend every advantage you get to get *more* ahead.

So you know the guy likes indirects, and he picks Jake. You decide early that you shouldn't use indirects since he will just snipe you. At that point just use Max. You mentally forfeit using indirects. May as well use the CO who doesn't care about them. Atleast that's how I see it.

I share your feelins Mangs, I got destroyed by Kantbei in this map. It was a tier 1 match and I picked Von Bolt, he picked... Jess. This is one of the most complex standar maps I've played yet, none obvious capture routes and a TON of different openings. Aggressive players can outmanouver their opponents easily, however artillery walls are equaly valid and efective here. Incuggarch just happens to be good at both. 1200 is no joke! I'm sure you would destroy most of us in a 1v1.

"I sacked my unit because hey, less units, less to worry about" mangs... my dude... wat

holy crap that wasn't even a match, i'm in awe by the level of play of Incuggarch.

Interesting idea: Say there's five tiers, do a first to five wins, but with every loss you can use a CO from one tier higher.

I think Olaf was the wrong choice because against the best player on such a small map, with a CO that was so well-suited for this map (lots of plains, lots of good positions for artillery), a stall-focused CO wouldn't get a chance to shine because the match would be decided too quickly for it to matter. Max would definitely have been a better choice, IMO. Especially since Olaf wouldn't be getting any value until units started dying and power gauge started building, but by that point, a solid advantage could be gained by the best player in the world...not a good position.

the biggest flaw early game is that you had no artillery to hold the line rather than your line be pushed back. maybe could've prevented the city from being captured

This has become my background videos for working, haven't played these games in forever but its fun to see it played competitively.

World of Tanks music in this intro. Nostalgia I didn't anticipate

Mangs tried to challenge incuggarch, but he didn't realize that Incuggarch is an S rank CO with Beat Down as his day-to-day power In seriousness, though, I really like that when you got defeated, instead of just getting frustrated about it, you learn (and even share!) where things went wrong on your side and right on theirs!

It's so fking surreal hearing world of tanks music in this video. Havent played it in half a year but man does it fit so much, btw great video mangs! 👍

Dang I missed these competetive matches... keep on forging on your skills dude.

I want to see another one, maybe with tier 1 vs tier 4. I want to see how he plays around such a disadvantage.

Being a FoW purist, the concept of pacing still escapes me from time to time, even though I have beat players stronger than me by 100-150 points, my issues with pacing makes me susceptible to straight up getting iced by people 150 points below me. I have to say though that believing in arty is what started my path to improvement, I went from being stuck at the 800s to reaching 1k by using arty in a way that helps me defend multiple properties.

Ah, Incuggarch! Had the honor to face him once in standard aswell - Oh sorry, I mean being humilliated by him 🙃

Mangs, the man that single-handedly got me back into these old games. Aside from that, great video man as always. Watching this match though, you probably would have won if you used Max

Good choice with the WoT soundtrack

"You gotta allow yourself to have some balls" -Mangs 2022 🥚

Just wanted to say thank you for showing that there is still a thriving community for one of my favorite franchises from when I was younger. Was wondering about AW, and then right after I get one of your vids on my recommended. A few days later and I've watched a lot of vids and just played through the whole AW1 Campaign in one sitting. I forgot how fun this game is, so thank you for reminding me. :)

The best roleplay of Advance Wars 1 Olaf seen in this match.

It is fine. Everybody has the limit on mental fortitude. Especially when it is too many units in the field, it is hard to imagine all steps possible. Making mistakes is normal. Don't be too harsh on yourself.

+1 to slow Norwegian AW gamers who beat Mangs

Prediction before I watch: No Very early edit: Congrats on the 1200 rating! Final edit: The Norwegian guy won! Woohoo! You may have had some misplays, but that neotank wall break was fantastic.

incuggarch's only weakness is Speed AW. If he has time to think, he thinks of everything, but it makes him relatively bad at playing off of hunches.

It really goes to show the skill ceiling in this game, congratulations on the 1200! and being in the top 5%!. Wow though he honestly made you look like a new player, it was honestly quite the thing to watch.

It is really fascinating how some pro players make their moves. It was truly an amazing match

Speaking of playing players way better than yourself, i just lost a match on the GL against a player rated 1365 (i'm rated 1063 myself) And i gotta say, its been a really insightful match. Ive mostly gotten into playing since i enjoy map making, and ive been trying to see what makes a great map. The match i played was Hellfire MK V (which seems to be the map for most matches ive had lately?) And i'm really unsure what to think of the map itself. Anyway, hope to run into you on the GL sometime Mangs!

I like how the first half of the match is almost completely Fabian.

Just one thing. It's mathematically impossible to hit the skill ceiling. There's simply too many possible moves, too many calculations to make, etc. There's no possible way anything short of a quantum computer will ever hit the skill ceiling.

I never thought about it, but indirect units are really high reward units, and with that, I mean; When you use any direct combat unit, it gives and takes damage, so they slowly deteriorate over time. Indirect units, on another hand, don't have this issue other than maybe ammo, they only throw damage, and don't take back. If you can get a few shots with an indirect unit, it's already worth it, but with a direct unit, you would have to deal with the hidden costs of repairing it.

Those plays were very well thought out. Well done Mangs and GG's Incuggarch, very entertaining review vid on this match.

Hey, cool to hear that you're Norwegian! I thought I picked it up from your hallos at the start, but accents are tricky to pin down.

I would love to see a live match between you too to see how much of the skill gap is due to being able to take advantage of the long time format and how much is just raw skill.

I like Olaf on this map and the times I've gone against Max, the winter fury really jams him up. Mangs, I was surprised that you took Jake head on. I was expecting you to work the sides more and just use an arty to keep that one property in the center neutral. Granted, you probably would have lost anyways, I know I would have.

Congrats! I think your mistake was not making arty yourself and being far too worried about the one arty he had. Yeah when he uses his power they're devastating but you're not going to see the power being used for quite a bit. They are only sometimes as strong as Jess arty when on plains in normal turns. Tanks and arty of your own would have been sufficient with just 1 or 2 copters. TBH it looked like his anti-air did most of the work rather than his arty.

i feel like the main reason why you lost is because you lacked indirects the entire match, because of that your opponent could slowly march with a deathball and force you to attack it, making you in a bad position and without much choice, also, the neotank hit on the tank was greedy and your opponent knew how to punish that. But its nice to see your evolution through the time, looking at the old mangs, you can see you skyrocketed in skill since you started playing AWBW

I love this new "omnomnomnomnom" sound you make on your replays 🤣

Congrats to 1200!! :)

Mangs the important thing is that you learned and finally got uhhh pun ished

Congrats on hitting 1200!

Honestly, skipping a property for a factory, port, or airport is always a good move since those give income as well.

does AWBW have different rating systems for different types of play like chess does, e.g. bullet, blitz, and rapid? Not denouncing the obvious skill of Incuggarch, but if he often takes 4-5 days to plan out moves, that's obviously a very different skillset than timed matches. having the opportunity to review and analyize all possible moves prior to deciding one seems very different than having to rapidly consider options and make a move before you lose the game (not to mention the irl counterpart that strategy games resemble). personally, I could never hold it together to play efficiently at top-level play if every turn took 5 days to rotate, but that's just my limited capabilities.

Theres no point in skipping a city. You can't get a copter early if you can't afford it. Skipping a city=losing funds Losing funds=delaying battle copter funds. You achieve nothing by skipping a city.

I love these kind of videos

This a really good concept will be great if you coule do more of these also you could the other way around play against people with less or the same if skil as your and give urself an handicap

Great AWBW video : )

Any Advance Wars player who says Artillery is bad should just quit the game for good. Artillery is insanely powerful when utilized properly. I've lost count on how many times I've received salty messages just because of my artillery usage.

I used to play a lot of chess but cause of Mangs I started to play ADBW and seriously such a fun change! I've already convinced a bunch of my chess friends to move over. I'd love to see this community grow. Thank you Mangs for all your teaching and community building!

The World of Tanks music really threw me off for a second... I was in a match when I started this video.

Congrats with reaching such heights, Egg!

I have been playing so much AWBW lately that I try to check the movement of your units... on RU-vid :S

dat WOT soundtrack!

Hello Mangs, can you please do a video explaing the Tier system for the Cos? :) Why is Sturm not Tier 0 etc.? Especially in Contrast to your Own CO Tier Lists regarding the 4 Games. Thanks!

I always finish my caps first, then spend time in MovePlanner analyzing the hell out of my moves.

Was a good match, i mean egg was 100% destroyed, but not everyday someone has a chance to play against the number 1 guy on something, thats cool.

15:06 I have lost so many matches because I don't have the balls to take risks.

congrats on 1200

Off topic, but are you going to do videos on if you can beat advance wars 1 campaign and dual strike campaign without losing a unit eventually? If it’s possible? Lol Would love to see those

Will you do another game on Caustic finale? Games on that map will be even more chaotic now that you're a 1200 rated player. Congratulations on reaching 1200 by the way.

Just wanna say, seeing that Olaf was Tier 2 on the thumbnail surprised me. Mainly because he’s an average CO who doesn’t buff or nerf anything, and is pretty much relying on his powers and Winter Fury in particular. Speaking of which, it’s even more surprising to me (albeit not by that much) because Drake actually is low tier, despite playing pretty much the exact same what with AWBW maps practically removing naval combat entirely. I guess either snow is just that good or, more likely, Drake’s weaker air units are just that bad. Oh, one more thing: only have campaign experience on this, but I totally agree with what you said about Jake here. Prior to Grit himself showing up in the campaign, if there was ever a mission where a team was relying on indirects-and there are a lot of those-Jake was the obvious choice. On that note, while Block Rock is terrifying for the power boost, I often found myself popping his normal power instead, since I just value the +1 indirect range you still get a lot more. Maybe someday I’ll try out playing him like that in AWBW, a Tier 4 who keeps popping his normal power to become Grit for a day. Edit: Ha! That double Beat Down Incuggarch did was exactly what I was talking about with Jake.

A range increase of 1 isn't 33% more coverage on artillery, Artillery normally cover 20 squares at range 2-3 and with range 2-4 they cover 36 squares which is actually a 80% increase in coverage Edit: bad math, I initially had it only as a 60% increase thinking that range 4 comprised of 12 squares when it is actually 16 squares.

This map is an artillery paradise imagine this map on fog of war, the forest tiles adjacent to the mountains is amazing

I feel like a stall-y deathball player like this is going to get rekt by Sturm or Von Bolt

Would love to apply game theory to advance wars. See if there are any non intuitive moves like using your normal power for extra range.

Didn't even need to watch the video, smiling Jake gave me serotonin. Anyway, I'm still watching because aDVaNCe WaRS!!1!11!

i hear a lot of world of tanks music in the background lol. Thought i heard it somewhere.

Watching videos and they're all a year old, and suddenly i spy a new one.

35:33 time is on my time- Mangs 2022 the ego this man had in this match.. this man even has time in his gripes.. no wonder this dude got almost washed.. he got lucky there was plains in a map lol nothing to do with his ability to play well. god no ;p XXXXD great match from him though. was sick and a good try from you mangs.

Yeah it’s tough to face someone who is planning moves so tactically. I am a dummy and just roll out a bunch of tanks!

Maybe you did suck, but your commentary is always on point!

So many idle infantry

Lots of world of tanks music, nice

Breaking News: Live footage of the Norweigan Civil War (2022)

Nice

14:55 i play wreckless most of the times against better players and get punished for that. Every efing time 17:04 first blood on day 10? WTF :D

Wot blitz music?

4-5 days thinking out moves...is this a format where you can just play a ton of games at the same time? Like async?

Are you playing this on PC?

This was one year ago... Starflash recently took 1st place. So, Incuggarch held it for over a year?

How about Tier 0 vs Tier 4 next? XD

Why are you using WoT new soundtrack?

Up!