It shouldn’t have even taken two hours It should have been more like 20 minutes in life as a grown man sometimes you gotta trim that hours down to 20 minutes
@@dontmatter2177naw bro as a grown man you take your time and don’t rush for nobody you don’t move til you ready.. That 20 mins you might overlook some shit
you never was a fan that’s why. this is a weird immature reason not to follow someone. I always teach Contant creators about fake supporters like you. You’re just a bandwagon follower nothing else nothing more.
Priorities smh.....and he not paying his niccas???? It's one thing if you shooting the shit, but that podcast game ain't no hobby B. Treat it like biz or suffer the consequences
That's why doing more than you should is never a good idea 💡! I get why people do it! It's outta love but it always comes back to bite you in the butt 😔!
@@MoonLitFRANK that's not true! Especially in today's climate! You end up enabling folks that don't deserve it! In theory you have a point but in practice/ reality not so much 😞!
if you really do the extras out of love, that’s on you to manage how you feel when folks don’t reciprocate it. gotta know your worth but i do believe a person who really out here in service, supporting they ppl frfr, ain’t worried about reciprocation or getting something in return. if you expect something in return, that’s a contract and you gotta write up what you want in exchange for your labor/service when you put your best out, you do get more favorable results, a contract can protect your work
@@abdalleahmed4613 You the sus af one.. You brain is conditioned think every thing is a Nigga stillz.. you stay with peens on your mind.. Batty fish sss Nicca
@@OrganicTrap Naw kid! Can you read!? That terminology is for females! So if I know that much why would I look it up!? So you don't get angry when "boys" use terminology meant for girls!? Little boy!
Aw man, I had Math's back at first cos Esso talked about doing grimey sh in the industry before but it's too many people speaking bad on Math's business dealings. It's sad but I've lost faith in the Hoffa brand, seems like it's run by a snake who don't wanna pay the people who help him. Same reason I stopped watching Joe Buddens pod.
Yeah i'm disappointed because Champ was a great guest. Seemed to have good chemistry with Math, like you could see his growth in each episode. Math seem kind of sheisty based on some of these accounts. Wish he could just be the bigger person and get champ back.
These dudes don’t understand that just because Math is cool dude and your able to be around him…HE IS THE BRAND and the NAME PEOPLE CAME TO SEE. Champ don’t understand that you were basically an intern/runner and he letting you sit in on interviews. He’s giving you an opportunity to gain facial recognition on a platform he built without your help. He’s lending his celebrity to you. There’s value in that. Getting paid is not the point, the point is building your own brand and piggybacking to build your own audience.
That makes sense if they are allowed to do their own shows outside of his.. Math was trying to dictate everything and that’s not fair when you’re not getting paid.
@@race2nowherethat only makes sense when you don’t know business. It’s called a non-compete clause and Math was right. Because they did start stealing guests that were slated for MOE and booking them on here z but they learning the hard way that they were not the draw. If dude claiming he brought 500k followers to Math show then he shd be able to do the same here for his own show
Interesting perspective... you have points... but on the same token, would math be here without the little people? It's not like he's a household name, that brand of show was built with the help of others
lol this is the place to air out all grievances on Math Edit: I will say though, I really respect the way this dude exited the situation. For a guy that did time behind bars, he handled the disrespect better than most people would.
Nah he was feeling himself because people was in his ear. That's the vibe I get. I bet he got a podcast coming if he don't already got one. N he was cool on the show he use to get twisted sometimes. You've got to read between the lines.Your situation was different
The problem is people don't respect the honor system and then assume that everyone does. Which leads to not doing smart business like putting everything down in contract and signing.
Im from Philly. The beard city. Ive been living in NY the last 9 years. Them dudes are more completely shaved face or the motorcycle chin strap Dominican beard. Its wild to me
@@OmarScruggs yea but. its way to many men walkin around with that same knew trendy beard shit too. muthafuckas all look alike. Even rick ross look like yall. gay ass hairlines and painted beards for social media ass muthafuckas...nggas be posin like females with beards on IG while speaking with emojis ass nggas....
shit still breaking my heart.. this all could have been a podcast empire.. voltron cant do shit if its missing two arms and two legs. regardless of whos the head and the red lion cant fight all alone ,smh...
I'll be honest.. and no disrespect to Champ, but its a female move going to every other podcast talking about your "breakup" with Math. Yeah we know Math is foul, but just take that loss as a lesson and keep it pushing and stop being a Chatty Patty. All these grown men do is go around talking about other men, it's disgusting now.
You sound like you’re trying to rewrite codes that you expect other men to follow. That man has every right to speak on his own accord and to attempt to stigmatize him for doing so is an insecurity that exists within yourself. Dame Dash is obviously a role model of yours. My advice: Find other role models.
I like how we barely whispered at the end sometimes it's my problem. 100% everything you go through in life is your problem. Based on choices you made.
One thing I noticed is New York East coast ninjas go at each others neck everytime one is at the top! No matter if it’s hip hop/rap business or politics! 😅
The straw that broke the camels back ((after I have worked all day)) 🤔🤔 some people have ((work)) confused with blessings and other stuff - come out here and cut grass in this hot sun everyday with me and I will show you what ((work)) is 🤣🤣 - but I understand tho - I just have a different definition of Real Work tho 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
This is the corporate equivalent of getting 90% negative glassdoor reviews and then advertising those reviews. Not a good look for Math. He's destroying human capital and good faith.
@rotweilerscholar1181you can’t say that, because Math was *really* with Diddy. So you can’t make jokes like that, because Math was bragging about hanging with Diddy before all that drama came out.
Because there are many variables that determine one's popularity/support on these social media platforms. For example, *Nija Charles* has written for Beyonce, Cardi B, Sza, Kehlani and others and is a 3 time Grammy nominated songwriter, yet she only has 32k subscribers on RU-vid compared to the millions that Beyonce, Cardi B, Sza and Kehlani each have. The fact that she has fewer subscribers on RU-vid than Beyonce, Cardi B, Kehlani and Sza doesn't erase the fact that she has contributed to their success.
I remember this dude saying he ain’t want money it was the friendship bond they had and something else because he was just coming home from jail… unless your super established and your doing business it’s always about the money 💰 it’s never free
Always remember it’s the music business. Not music friends. Everyone is fake and foul and will always try to take advantage of you! Once they find out you love it and are passionate about it. They will take advantage of that. No one pays anyone without you fighting for it. Or you have a manager that fights for you.
It's impossible to grow a business with a bunch of guys that all want to be THE MAN. I've personally seen how Dame Dash moves... he's surrounded by people that'll NEVER be THE MAN. In fact, his entire team is made up of people that look up to him and believe they can achieve their dreams through him. HE IS THE MAN of his crew... that's why he always feels safe and isn't ever taken down by the people around him. That's also why he and Jay ultimately went separate ways and why he clashes with every single other Alpha Male. Math's mistake was surrounding himself by guys that either just wanted to show up, be on camera and get paid OR guys that thought they should be the host. Business and team work is like a Chess board. There is only ONE KING and ONE QUEEN per army. You have to make sure your 2 Knights don't want to be anything other than Knights and that your 2 Rooks never have ambition to be King. NO PIECE can go outside of their designated lane.
They aren't popular enough. I know them from Math Hoffas podcast. They probably have industry relationships and do business but they are big enough names for ppl to just follow until they prove themselves
I understood the point of champ wanting his story out at first. At this point I’ve heard it so many times that champ is really wrong in this situation. Especially the rental car part. At first it kinda made sense but keep hearing it, he shoulda just told math yea I got the truck, I need my money back first.
I will be 100% honest when y’all first left the show. I thought that Math was right and you guys were hating, but immediately in the next couple of episodes I could see the problem. I’ve always felt that he was the worst feature on his own podcast and it’s not surprising that he is the person behind the scenes of ruining his own business.
When everyone starts to leave you know they trying to outdo the man in charge! But they don’t wanna have a boss that’s understandable but the problem is this is what happens when you hire your homies or let em in to your line of work! 😅 🤡
This is like three ex-girlfriends comparing an experience with the same guy, corny and not the adult thing to do...................Keep it moving fellas, we've all had moments where we did things at work that didn't show up on the paycheck. Sometimes the job be easy, you're being paid to deal with different personalities and attitudes.
Yeah harping on the past ain't healthy imo. But if Math wasn't paying correctly, niggas got a right to air it out. Doing it publicly isn't the wave, but folks handle things differently esp. when money is involved
