I find it unbelievable how out of touch some people are on the internet, they are two irl friends arguing over something in an RP game and the viewers feel the urge to log into another website and become toxic.
You must not spend much time on the internet if you think this is abnormal. RU-vid is the exact same way it’s just as toxic in many communities. People would never act this way in person but being behind a screen typing on a keyboard makes them feel invulnerable thus encouraging the actions of childish morons whose lives revolve around the internet.
much respect to ramee for sticking up for his boy before his money maker. shows keven that ramee values his friendship over anything. ramee is the friend we all want. i can respect that
@@hugoquinn5182 I highly doubt that. I do think they wouldn't be as honest but most guys can't be that honest. I don't think any of them would just be okay with dropping the group over a petty argument about RP shit. That would be stupid.
Why can’t people just enjoy the show? There’s no need to hop to other people’s stream unless you want to watch it from their point of view but being toxic is uncalled for. All of this was in RP so leave it there. If there is a problem between Ramee and Kebun OOC then they’ll talk about it and handle it themselves. Other people giving their opinions and talking shit doesn’t help the situation. Both Ramee and Kebun stopped streaming so who really lost out? It’s the viewers that lose out.
People really harrassing others for what happened in a game that doesnt affect anything outside of it, and for literally nothing at that I dont get it man
It’s crazy that he does this and people in chat say “don’t say us, it’s not all of us”. If you don’t do this, he ain’t talking about you. It’s okay to be self aware enough to know this…
@@angie-yv8yr I agree, I’m not saying his chat doesn’t hops a lot. I’m saying if you’re offended at his rant toward his chat, you’re probably a hopper. If you don’t hop, that wasn’t aimed at you.
Dude literally says in the video he thinks the MAJORITY of his chat are toxic chat hoppers right after someone says it's not everyone. Dude is as toxic as his chat some times. Plays a toxic character, Scams people, runs people over, constantly talks over them and weasels his way into and out of shit all the time and wonders why "toxic" people like him. Literally the same.
@@user-re9ml6no8y my man, it’s all gonna be okay. I agree MAJORITY of his chat is toxic chat hoppers. I was discussing people feeling hurt on a statement that if it doesn’t apply to them it shouldn’t bother them. That’s it. I’m glad you got your hate out though. It’s bad to hold that stuff in. Please remember, it’s RP. Take a breathe and watch who you enjoy watching.
Glad to see Ramee finally tell his chat off. They can be super fucking weird alot of the time. Probably one of the main reasons he's going to switch platforms to try an build a new community which I'm pretty sure was the wild shit he was about to say. Bravo Ramee Bravo!
@@epifanio9153 not gonna lie i called them out once. nothing crazy just stated how they were incompetent basically and got banned from chat permanently. only comment i ever made lmao i usually don’t even have chat on.
it annoyed me when after ramee got onto his chat about chat hopping, his chat started saying "we love u ramee" like yall r suppose to say that to Mr. k since he was the one most affected like tf lol
The fact some people forget the streamers you are seeing and watching are playing a literal CHARACTER in a role play server, not playing as themselves.
I feel as if sub mode should be used more often, thins out the herd a bit and makes it easier for mods to ban if subs are being toxic, also its less annoying if a subbed person is being toxic cos they are the idiot cos they gave the streamer money then shit talked.
I don't think some of them think that way. I think it would hurt them more subscribers being toxic. Makes them feel like they didn't do a good job fostering a good community. It's completely understandable them thinking this way but also harsh since it's the internet.
I thought rp community was chill I've only started watching rp since zerkaa(tommy t) started playing it and man the toxicity, the chat hopping and the backseating is absurd, people need to learn how to separate the rp from irl
I don’t think K understood buying gems in the first place. Ramee was gonna sell him gems at the price he sells at the gem sales guy. Then K would add that price plus a little more for sourcing the gems. Then on top K can add a service fee to infuse the gems. That way they both make money and help each other out. -ps I’m not on anyone’s side but when they first started this deal I noticed they weren’t communicating clearly because how rushed it was coming up with a system, K even said “we just came up with it on the spot” after they infused Leslie’s chain
I saw this happen and Ramees mods didn't do shit, pretty fuckin sad. It went over board after a while and I'm like "modCheck when mods don't do shit" insta ban lololol
Ramee is right. Chains will be gone soon once everyone buys chains. So chang should charge more so Ramee and chang get make money while the chain money lasts. Chang is screwing over ramee doing it without ramee. But damn chat killed the mood.
@@canuckeeeeAK in a way but he could ignore that to screw ramee over. Like i feel like chang is doing this to mess with ramee but he kinda also wants more money cus tuner shop. He just went about it in a weird way.
I think K is selling the base chain for cheap and making the infusion with gem at high cost, so he really making more money on the infusion process more than the base chain it self
It's not even about the business itself. They're friends and not just business partners, they should look out for each other. The boys are always happy to support K's business, like by giving him all gold bars from robberies even when they split the thermite costs equally. And in this scenario, Ramee offered a solution where they both would make money, and K never offered a solution where Ramee doesn't get screwed. And that's why I can't understand why some people think Ramee was in the wrong.
@Brian Low their original deal was K paying the same prices as the gem sales NPC, I think you misunderstood what they were saying. And at the beginning of this video K realizes that those prices are too high when he can just buy from Leslie much cheaper, which also screws Ramee over by completely cutting him out.
It's literally like the newer viewers who cause problems in others chat, the OG knows this is just only an IG conflict and they don't have beef outside of GTA.
What K doesn't understand is Leslie now has a supply of gems but has no one to sell it too. Ramee has the NPC to sell too. K is going to be Leslie's "gem sales" guys. Which will hurt Ramee's business a TON
That sucks viewers just cant be just that VIEWERS!!! Like they have to be gross and toxic to streamers trying to make content, have fun with friends, and make a story. Just let these guys play and have a good time. Having fun and bantering with the streamer is what chat is all about. Not being a negative backseat player.
Rpers should have their channels on Sub only mode everyday. It's not worth the headache. If people sub to be toxic ey at least you take their money and can ban them easier without the follower chat spamming
To be fair. I enjoy all of cg content immensely. I feel ramee has set a precedence in his chat though. I remember watching him about two months ago and he pretty much was like do what you want, I want you to have the freedom in my chat. His chat lacks moderators And bans for sure. Nothing will change even when changing platforms if he doesn’t change his view on his chat and start tightening down
Honestly i don’t know why K isn’t charging a insane amount for chains. Bc once everyone has them they aren’t gonna buy them anymore so then your profit is gone so he should make all the money he can while there hot imo
ramee’s chat is so toxic sometimes, he needs to start banning people more often, it’s painful to watch sometimes. i wouldn’t be surprised if he moved to another platform
Sad thing is that they are already banning a shit ton of people. But there are so many cancerous morons that it seems like the mods aren't banning anyone.
Chat is funny asf but they don’t know when to stop yk? And Ramee hated sub only mode and emote only mode, the mods try their best but chat gets toxic at such odd times it’s literally stupid
ramee’s chat switches up hella quick. it’s funny when they “bully” ramee when the boys ask ramees chat about something. but recently i’ve seen that whenever ramee mentions randy, the entire chat goes psycho and starts shitting on randy. people are so invested it’s weird
Context to why idiots are hopping: K is kinda screwing Ramee over by not charging more. He is essentially undercutting Ramee’s business. K is conflicted because he doesn’t want to screw the city over for Ramee. Ramee is pissed because he loses either way but is losing extra hard if K forgoes him and just goes to Leslie for gems. It’s a fucked situation. I do think K should charge more because he is charging less then what it’s worth. At the end of the day it’s K’s business.
@@rma72 the community got so bad it came to the point were 2 people cant argue with eachoter IC even tho they are good friends without the community going aids since they can't differentiate IC and OOC
Let’s think realistic for a second, chains itself are supposed to be expensive in the first place so 60k for a chain or hell even 45 or 50k would still be decent plus gems so I’m kinda on ramee’s side with the pricing. Also, why aren’t aren’t there gonna be other chains that can be made that don’t have to be gang related? Dead ass could do that as well for a side business. It’s sad how both chats have ruined a RP situation so badly cause the convo could’ve went into a better ending.
Rammee made his chat like this. It's his chat he calls them aids ...what does aids do. That's why no one wants to war with cg. Cg has the most toxic chat out of any group on np
I understand both sides but mr k is in the wrong big time imo. He wants everybody to be able to afford effects on thier chain? 1. Those gems are soo rare its impossible to fullfil orders 2. Everybody with a flaming chain would look dumb af 3. It would mess the economy if they raised the rng of it. I dont understand, think of it like this if Gucci started doing 70% off sales so everyone could afford, would anyone want fucking gucci anymore? I dont think so cause unless its status is known thier products honestly look like shit but its gucci, or if walmart started selling $20 dollar rolexs would anyone care for rolexs anymore? Or mr ks Bentley, if there were 100s on the street would mr k even want it anymore. Mr k isnt wrong about it makes sense to cut ramee out but ramees isnt wrong either about charging more n making up the difference so they both make money cause chain effects are a flex item n the gems to do it are super rare. The best thing to do is have a auction once a week to auction them off n let the highest bidders flex their chain out but mr k thinks thats too much work 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Imagine logging into Facebook to go search for lord Kebun and talk shit about gem sales. Some of these 3.0 viewers bringing out a whole new type of toxicity out to the community.
Im surprised people get triggered of of chat hoppers still, it is 100% wrong todo so but for someone who’s been dealing with this forever probably it’s kind of weird.
Mr.K is just a competition business to Ramee in a way and Ramee is trying to be middle man to make money. All rp (I think Ramee greedy, I love Ramee my opinion)
@@aileenaileenVII sure but you can’t here the “haters” if they can’t type in chat. You can’t hop chats unless you are subbed to the individual you’re hopping too. Hence why larger more experienced streamers immediately take it to emote/sub mode when things get tense.
The GTA RP fan community is one of the least self-aware and most hypocritical communities on the internet and deserves all the derision it gets. I'd rather be known as a minecraft stan than a GTA RP frog at this point.
CG community at it's finest if they sense even the smallest amount of conflict they will hop on anyone. Tbh that's part of the reason nobody wants to mess with CG especially when there is an rp reason that causes actual character v character conflict. Ramee and the other CG boys deserve better honestly.
@@tahazafar5263 Well for CB that does exist but it's degrees less in comparison and XQC's com really are only horny for cops. But tbh why I think CG is a lot worse is because for the most part when they talk situations even though they may not be ooc a lot of their community take it as ooc, just like Ramee said. Tbh I think CG has it the worst because they really get horny for everyone like man when I clicked this video I thought the people going offline would be Nidas and Dean but no it's one of the own CG members. Their community is full of dumb fucks who develop parasocial relationships and want to protect their streamer.
@Tyler Keehl No they're not atleast not to the degree CG has it. Like man did you even see the video Ramee himself says it. Also man just because it's present anywhere doesn't make it any more normal.
@@redboom2936 ur dumb if you think that, the amount of CB hoppers that go in CG chats is crazy, ALSO CG hoppers also hop into CG a chats when CB things go on as well, as crazy as that sounds.
@@eroseada You need to rephrase your second sentence because that shit makes no sense but what im saying here is the size comparison is significant and the amount of times where it happens is a lot kore often for CG to other people. Like man Ramee himself in his video said the majority of the CG community is like that and he hates it. He deserves much better than just a bunch of kids who can't distinguish in game from reality.
I feel streamers need to stop being so soft. People hop and no one can ever stop that, so deal with it. Stick the chat in emote only, ban people, whatever. Stop using it as an excuse not to do stuff
i just hope the next time you rage someone around you constantly tells you how stupid and wrong you are and tells you, you need to calm down. its human to have that reaction.
You know what the funny thing is? Most of the people that chat hops are the same people sayin chat is stupid. They think they doing something right by pissing off another person. Whats also funny is the shit talking CG fans do in comments and chat. Defend that their streamer is best. But also shit talk them because the streamer dont do something that chat likes. Im a huge CG fan but damn seeing stupid shit like these kinda makes the Actual CG look bad. Guys just please enjoy the show. Dont fuck it up for the rest of us
I don't get Ks argument to begin with if ramee is his boy while ramee isn't making any profit. Like why bring it up ic if you're still going to do business with him. Ramee is not making any profit from ks business so what's the issue K has with ramee? I'm so confused. Can someone explain plssss. Also, Im not able to watch live alot of times but when I do chat does act weird alot. I just don't even keep chat open bc of it. I'm glad ramee calls his chat out for that shit. Imo there has always been backseating, meta etc but jfc 3.0 chat is something else. It's getting worse and it's sad.
Was Ramee really mad that he temporarily doesn't have a monopoly on gems anymore? Just sell the gems to K for the same price you buy them for. Not how much you can sell them to an npc for. Or K could just buy them from Leslie for the same price that Ramee does. Save your friend the extra step. You lose nothing because your monopoly is artificial. How is that hard to understand. IC Ramee should not have been trying to make money of K in the first place. Between the boys everything's at cost or free. This discussion should have never lasted this long.
it’s very simple, neither of them were really in the wrong. from Mr K’s side, it doesn’t make sense to make Ramee even more profit because he feels he’s already helping him out enough by buying gems from the gallery rather than straight from the source but he wouldn’t do that because Ramees his boy. From Ramees side, he feels he should be getting slightly more for the gems than what the local pays because if not, he might as well just sell to the local. And the fix to that is Mr. K just has to charge customers slightly more but he won’t because he feels that’s unfair. and K needs to know the actual quality of gems so if he buys them from people he still would need to get them appraised. Neither of them are wrong. But the main takeaway should be that this whole scenario takes place in a fake world made of pixels so no hate should be spread to the actual streamers.
@@emgreen1401 im still confused as fck about this whole situation. isnt K the only one who can make chains in the first place? so he can literally set the price to whatever the fck he wants it to be. and that would be the price. since he has no competition to deal with. ofc if you can make profit for your business partner. you are going to do it. specially if its your boi. so idk how that whole argument even gets to stand place to begin with. all they have to do is talk about the prices for the materials used. set up a min profit they want to make and talk about how much cut each party gets from said profit. and thats it. end of discussion. if that isnt ok with K, then that means he rather make more profit for himself and screw ramee over. by cutting him out of some money. then so be it. but im sure ramee ll remember that in future. that just how business works.
Ramee chat is sometimes so dumb,being a big streamer is so bad I see,K streams to get happy but these hoppers ruined the fun,these guys actually forget this is a game not irl smh
@@ONeill1421 the chains are a hype atm so he has to try and make as much profit as possible till every gang/family/crew wants one. idk why he is talking about `fair prices`for the city the price is what he dictactes. since there is no competition from what i understand. its like tuner shop. ppl who want a car , ll have to put on the table what they ask. if not , get fcked.
its true that chain business is not an essential business so should make as much profit as he can coz its is totally based on the hype . south side gangs except few vagos cant even afford to buy another one if they get snatched during wars .
Ngl, out of big 5 cg that i follow and watch daily, ramee chat/community is the most toxic i have ever seen, i read and chat in his stream sometimes and i always get a toxic or some mocking response. So i started unfollow him and watch someone else. There is no point sticking around toxic community that big
it’s cause ramee always complains that his boys aren’t doing enough and he always pays too much. ramee casually always forgets how much K and Randy invest into jobs and shit, ramee thinks he pays for everything. and cause of this, chat gets hella invested and starts hopping to people like K and randy.
This happened to me as well when all I put was two laughing emojis in chat because they were going through a funny situation and I got like tagged in 30 comments from different people calling me a “fucking retard” and all sorts of horrible names. I was like I’m done never watching this stream again.
Idk he said there idiots and called them all brain dead and roasted he’s chat and told them to shut the fuck up just because he didn’t say something completely crazy and ruin he’s entire brand he’s built doesn’t mean he was scared to talk because the video I watched he talked a lot and did have ago at he’s chat
