Changing ALL 30 Killers in Dead By Daylight 

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It definitely would be cool if the doctors hallucinations came swinging at you around the corner unexpectedly 😂. Also would love the GhostFace change, them nightshroud reveals be crazy for real. 😭

I always thought Charlotte should have a "Bloodlust" mechanic. If she's outside a certain radius of victor on a survivor, she gains movement speed moving towards them, and she gains additional movement speed, pallet breaking speed and vault speed if victor is crushed.

Devs: we don't allow Trickster to active main event whenever he wants to avoid him using his power to camp a hook Also Devs: allowing Bubba and Billy to use their chainsaw while they stand right next to hook

I heard a great trapper change; when empty on traps and searching a locker, the trappers furthest unset trap disappears and he "grabs it from the locker". This still used some of his time of course, but ensures you never have to go tremendously out of your way to get a trap.

I would love that ghostface change. Honestly the reason I love playing him is just so I can scare people, not even necessarily to win, so being undetectable all the time would be great.

I agree with you completely about the artist and the crows on the map. I feel like since she’s the crow killer, the crows should respect her and not alert when she walks by and I also feel like she should have some kind of basekit spies from the shadows

Suggestion: In order to make Nightfall a little more scary, I like your idea of toning down the visibility of auras, making them much dimmer. I would also change the Dredge's aura during Nightfall to a humanoid shape, making him not as easily detected just by his aura. I would also throw in ghost auras (humanoid shaped) that run around the map and have heartbeats.

Just had a thought regarding Trapper: What if he could do some sort of magic hat type trick with his trapper bag (hear me out) where he reaches into it and pulls out the furthest trap from him, prioritizing unopened ones first. It could take like two seconds to perform, bring him to a crawl like clown reloading, and just be used if you have most of your traps set up except one. Entity needs to give their poster child some of its blessing to perform this!

That change for the Pig sounds like SO much fun. Edit: after watching the whole video, I just wanted to say that as someone who has ADHD and long form videos like this tend to bore me, this was super entertaining, informative and creative. I watched the whole thing which is saying something. I like a lot of your suggestions and I'd be curious to try them out. Keep up the great content Spooky, hope you hit that 500k!

Fun fact: if you cleanse the hex behind Spooky's gaming chair, his beard falls off. Edit: My change to Nurse would be your first blink acts as it currently does, a basic attack. However any chain blinks beyond the first, count as special attacks - not triggering many perks. This would still allow Nurse players to use many killer perks without completely making half of them irrelevant, but would also require the Nurse player to be very good to capitalize on basic attack perks. If you're only ever landing attacks' via your chain blinks, they aren't going to do anything for you perk wise.

1 more thing for pig buff, like everytime a generator is done with a active Trap, u lose 5 seconds from the Countdown. When the last generator is done, like 10 seconds. And they should also change, when u put a trap on when all generators are done.

I find the change you thought of for the Twins good where if a survivor holds on to Victor for too long that they go into the dying state, but it NEEDS to be so that if you are in chase, the counter pauses like it does with pig's active head traps. Else you go into some type of old legion sh*t where they keep folllwing you and you just go down because if you pull off Victor you stop moving... Also, make it so it shows the timer on the HUD of survivors XD

I think it would be cool if the nurse's terror radious would replace the survivor's heartbeat sound with a heart monitor and the heart monitor would flatline when they go down.

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Spooky, FYI there is another thing that Nemesis gets at T3 Mutation. When holding his whip out, he moves the same speed as survivors while in T3. This is crucial.

As a ghostface main I’d love to have him be a fully undetectable killer. It would give so much leeway for alternate strategies for hooking survivors

How I would change all characters (Killer AND Survivor) is give them a small bonus when using character-exclusive Perks. Something that makes players consider choosing a particular Survivor for playstyle or enhancing the threat of a Killer via slightly improved Perks.

I love your ideas for the Twins. I also think Charlotte should walk faster WHEN she is walking in direction of Victor's location.

Your doctor and ghostface ideas are so good, I want them to be real I love when DBD is actually scary and keeps you on your toes

Further Ghost Face change: His red stain only appears when you are in chase with him.

Excited for your opinions! Great to see this kinda video from you (usually Otz tackles topics like that)

i love the changes to the nemesis, that would make him feel like the real monster it is, i would buff a bit the add ons so some of them make the infection have an extra effect for X seconds, like "if a survivor gets infected it gets the blinded status effect for 60 seconds" or something like that, since some of them like the licker tongue that makes them be hindered for 0.2 extra seconds after being infected are just... really bad and makes the infection feel really weak compared to wesker's or plague's

As a Sadako main I really like the changes you proposed. I'd love more interaction with the condemned mechanic outside of iri videotape and ring drawing build Something I've always wanted is that she can't be stunned while demanifested, and she can walk through thrown pallets. Sadako is legitimately the first 'ghost' killer we have, it'd be so fun if behavior chose to lean into her more spectral power set.

The Ghostface change sounds awesome

hype to see what changes you have in store to Pyramid Head!!!

A change I always was thinking about for the nurse would just be removing or decreasing her lunge a lot when she blink, so your blink have to be extremely precise to get a hit and have less room for error.

As one of the 7 twins mains, I loved your idea, I’ve always had the idea that survivors would be out into the dying state if they held Vic for too long. Also Charlotte needs to walk faster after teleporting back into her from victor. Same with victor, we should be able to teleport back into Charlotte faster, it’s takes about 5 seconds from downing a survivor with victor to teleporting back to Charlotte. I hope they get a MASSIVE buff soon. Hopefully this mid-chapter update.

When the knight uses his power he should go in his normal animation but instead a map wide audio cue activates allowing survivors to know he’s using his power and have his power/pathing and his helpers detection circle invisible, so it allows survivors to guess the knights pathing and the knights helpers detection range, I personally think this would make him a lot more fun and would force the survivors to pay close attention to their environments while going against the knight

As a Deathslinger Main with over 3K hours. I have been saying for a long time that he needs to be 115 and have his old TR back. To actually hear someone else, especially Spooky, pitch the same exact idea was nice to see! Honestly loved a lot of your takes, but was really happy to finally see someone else talk about Slinger’s speed. ❤

There are some really nice ideas, but I'd like to note that making all nurse blinks basic attacks would effectively prevent her from using exposed perks alltogether, instead of just making them mess effective. Since she moves slower than survivors, she realistically will never be able to use a regular attack on a survivor with this change, no matter if she uses her power or not. I think making only the second blink attack a special attack will encourage more percise blinks and tune down exposed effects vs her a lot!

some awesome ideas! the knight changes you suggested would be huge, totally agree with the visible pathing lines and patrolling circles being invisible

As a survivor main, some of those changes sounded great, and some sounded terrifying. Some sounded more balanced, and some sounded more unbalanced than what we have now. Overall I enjoyed the video and it was entertaining, and it was a lot of great feedback for BHVR.

As a new huntress main I agree with the Iri head change long shots are really good

Another fantastic video to keep me entertained while also making some very interesting points about how to make these killers better. I agree with the majority of ideas. They all sound fun.

"Not all of these changes are improvements. Some killers need to brought down some. Next up is the Nurse." Who could have seen that coming 🤣

Great video Spooky! A lot of great ideas and changes that, with some killers, need to be made. Not gonna lie that ghost face idea would be amazing 😂 I main Oni and Ghost face so yeah that change would be really cool, or even if they made an add on for that would be cool too.

Fantastic video. Thanks for all the work you put into it, must’ve taken a while!!!!

Thanks for the insight! Love hearing these suggestions for killers! One thing about undetectable Ghostface: I wonder if a mechanism kind of like the Doctor would work with him for a red stain/terror radius thing. If Bhvr keeps the current reveal mechanic, maybe it could affect the survivor in some way: Survivor becomes hindered for 5 seconds after revealing, as a default? In the movies, he attacks quickly and taunts his victims too - so it would be nice to see a bit of that in the game. Like, when you are fully marked, there's a delay and maybe a line - "What's your favorite scary movie?" or just something to keep the suspense up a bit. As a survivor against ghostface, once I become completely marked, I'm on the run, and I think it takes a bit of the suspense out of it.

Spirit is my favorite killer to play and I actually love playing against her and it makes me sad she's so rare to go against. One thing I'd like to change is when playing her, I'd like to be able to see her passive phasing or just know when it's currently active. I like using her Juniper Bonsai which triggers her passive phasing more often and makes it last longer however I just never know how effective it is so that's what I'd like to change.

YES!! That Ghostface change is exactly what I was thinking how he should be reworked! Him losing his power for a whole 30 seconds because a survivor looked at him is dumb. I think to balance him always being undetectable, when a survivor looks at you while you’re stalking them, your stalk progression on them pauses after a second until you break line of sight with them, rewarding survivors for being alert without completely punishing Ghostie

Huge fan of all of these changes tbh! I especially love the ideas for Pig, Huntress' iri hatchet, and Doctor in terms of "fun" switch ups. As a Slinger main, the recommendations you made are 100% what I'd love to see. Knight's changes would be lovely too, I wanna enjoy playing him sooooo bad but damn is it frustrating right now. Oh, and while a totally undetectable Ghost Face would make me scream IRL every match, I'd love to see it lmao

Hey spooks! I play a lot of nemesis and one improvement I would love to see is in tier 3 if you hit a survivor across a dropped pallet you get the hit as well as the pallet break. It seems like a logical progression with the tiers

I love these opinion style of videos! I feel like you have a unique and constructive pov from other content creators ❤ hope to see more :)

For the first time ever, I 100% agree with ALL of the change ideas! Clearly well thought out and nicely balanced. Killers would feel spooky and powerful again, but not unbeatable. Really hope BHVR is listening to Fog Whisperers finally and at least considers these.

The biggest problem with the ghost face change is also a thing that can happen with wraith. You get a lot less points from chase and being nearby the killer as you are not in the terror radius, so if that change you suggested for ghostie were to go live, they should increase the amount of chase points survivors get when they are actually in a chase, with ghostie and a lot with wraith, as he can just cloak and cancel the chase and deny points that way. And to add to the ghost face idea. If a survivor that is not currently in chase with him looks at him, he should start to have a terror radius and red stain, but only as long as the not chased survivor has line of sight, and maybe have it linger for like 2-3 sec before fading back to no radius what so ever. That way you can still help out your team by revealing him, but you have to actively follow him, putting yourself in danger.

I really loved this video and I agree with the idea's you had on changing the killers. Although one I was surprised on not hearing was changing the range addons for pinhead. the range with him is almost useless. still awesome video X3👍

Love the trapper ideas & he would actually be liable. Hoping he gets his buff as well as my boy Clown

I really liked all of these suggestions (apart from Twins and Nemesis, but everyone will have their own opinions). Great video!

love the trapper change. Having all traps should also be basekit though but without the debuff the sack gives. You would barely pick them up anyway

very very nice! it's great to see all these changes. very informational c:

I think rather than going into the dying state from a trap, it might make sense to get a permanent hindered effect until healed or a specific amount of time, as getting stuck in a bear trap would make your legs damaged obviously

I've had some discussions regarding Myers over the last year, and one thing I have settled on as a change I would like to see, and most of my social group agrees, is to remove the 'cap' on how much he can stalk each survivor. And to balance this out it would take more stalk to level up, and also in his base kit he would drop out of evil within 3 once he hits someone down successfully. Some of his add-ons could be altered to adjust this, particularly the ones that already let him stay in EW3 longer. I also had a change in mind for Freddy. Right now, his power is basically just turned off once the last generators are completed. My idea would be to make it so it takes him longer to teleport to generators the more repaired they are, including if they are fully repaired. So in the end game he would still be able to teleport to all 7 generators, but it would take him a bit longer. Probably somewhere between 120% and 150% of the current duration, with the base teleport speed to a generator with no progress being closer to 75% of its current speed. I've had some thoughts on the Pig as well, but no definitive idea. My main thing is that the game needs to better communicate to survivor players that they need to take the trap off and can't go into the exit gates with an active trap on. Maybe some 'recorded audio' from Jigsaw himself could play through a speaker on the trap or something. And/or there could be some kind of visual 'transceiver' on the gates. For Legion, on the other hand. I like the character quite a bit, but I've always been a little bit disappointed in how the concept ended up translating to gameplay, even when they were first released. But with the Knight being added, it's solidified my thought process for the character. Now, my idea would be more of a straight up rework than a simple change. But I kind of would like to see the Legion (or perhaps a future killer) come into the game as all four killers together, or even just a pair, but they would only have one knife between them. So you could send the Legion members you're not controlling to a target area with the power button (right click) and they would go block a pathway, kick/damage an object, or try to grab a survivor to hold them in place briefly, and each character would be slightly better at some of these things based on their stats and personalities. The secondary ability button, however (control) would allow you to toss the knife to another Legion member in line of sight, transferring player control to that killer. This would take a little time, based on how far away they currently are, and could only be done within line of sight, and only the Legion member with the knife could actually injure survivors. I might try to preserve some part of their feral frenzy, perhaps as a passive, letting them ramp up their speed and intensity the more hits they get in, or by passing around the knife between hits or something. But that was the general idea I thought would better represent the 'fantasy' of the Legion as they were promoted and as they exist in the lore. My change to the Oni is simple (and could apply to a few other killers as well like Hillbilly/Cannibal, for instance). Let weapon skins alter his club.

LOVE ALL your videos so fun and nice to watch!

So one thing I'd change or add for the Nemesis is adding the ability to switch the tentacle strike. Because I know sometimes, the targeting of it can be janky. So if BH gave us the option to switch how tentacle strike works, it'd help. For example, I'd add the ability to let tentacle strike turn into tentacle sweep. Where it sweeps the area in a cone in front of the nemesis. The tradeoff for it would be obviously a shorter range for it, but also slower mutation for the nemesis.

Awesome in depth perspective from a killers non biased view, good job spooky

You should do a video for new killer ideas. I have a few and I’m interested to see what yours are! Great video and point of view! 👍

SpookyLoopz, thank you for the video! I have such respect for you as a Dead By Daylight player & content creator - that you really think about how the game can be fun for everyone! All of your suggested changes above I support, with the exception of the Dredge rework. The Dredge is powerful enough already for players to go against, with the locker teleports, and the instant grabbing if a Survivor is at a locker the Dredge teleports to. It is just incredibly difficult to fight against this Killer - most of the time, I just hide in a corner of the map while other teammates get killed off and hatch escape. I would not like that to be the strategy every time. The only thing that does help me out is the double locker glitch. And again, this should not be the only strategy. Just sharing how this is the only thing I disagree with you on. Happy Holidays to you, dude!

You said exactly what I was thinking Spooky for awhile too

for the twins i have a idea! When controlling victor, charlotte (AI) will follow at either 4.6 or 4.4m per second. if you (as victor) start a chase with a survivor charlotte will chase the survivor too a bit like knights power. i dont know how this would work and if it will be balanced or not but it would be pretty interesting atleast to me! (also while controlling charlotte and victor is on someones back you should gain a buff like movement speed and damaging speed etc)

I wasn’t sure how I’d feel about a video like this but it was a nice switch up. I enjoyed Spooky’s preparation for the video, you could tell he was knowledgeable and put a lot of thought into it. That’s awesome for a content creator (Spooky) cause even though he doesn’t make these kinds of videos, he didn’t half ass it. Anyways, loved all the suggestions, especially the Twins cause I really want to like them as well. Keep up the good work and see you at 500K and beyond ❤

17:47 The absolute thing u need to change is when u hit them with your range attack, the get the torment thing like if they stepped on a trail

BE: “Oh wow, these are some very creative ways to design killer mechanics.” “BUT NOT FOR ME.”

Oh my gosh, that pig change is SUCH a good idea. I also generally like the slowdown hiding box auras gives - it would be cool if they gave her a basekit effect similar to that which hides box auras until you get within x meters of them or something like that. At least add in a bit of that confusion to her base kit! I'd even take a nerf to some of her oppressive time crunch addons in exchange for that and a change to her charge that lets her break pallets.

There is also a small bug with plague for when a survivor gets hit with a little puke, the survivor isn't infected at all and so it wastes more of plagues time during chases.

Love your videos man. Always good content.

for michael the thing i would change is his jewelry addons, i would make it so he starts with some stalk at the start of the match (so like tacky earrings would be 10% stalk at the start and the jewelry box would give you 75% stalk at the start so you can get into tear 2 faster) with the drawback being like he stalks slower or moves slower or something

Great video! I'm a knight main, I've only EVER used Wraith, Knight, and one trial with Huntress, the visual cues given to survivors are so counterproductive that in most cases my guard gets outrun. Also, when the guard drops his banner on spotting of a survivor he goes to where he spotted the survivor, giving them an additional amount of time to run away 🤦🏿‍♂️why? Knight is awesome (in theory) the changes would make him just as awesome in practice. Again, great video💯👑

The most reasonable suggestions made. Thanks for the video!

Honestly I love mastering Billy's sprint made learning blight and nurse so much easier

the idea you had for the wraith is a very good idea!

6:40 , my change for nurse that I think would be very good is just a vision fatigue after her first blink

Love this kinda content spooky💯 super cool

I have to say, I would also make around the hook a no-no zone for the guards of the Knight, cause I had too many "camping" knigths, that just keept refreshing their guards right at the hook

The only issue I have with your changes to Pig is that literally nobody would ever be killed by beartraps again, unless you were only allowed to trade a health state while healthy or if they got cheeky and thought they could make it to the last box. It really removes the idea that beartraps are something to be afraid of when you know you can wait out the timer until the very last second and then just pop it off at the nearest box.

I'm a Doctor main and I would LOVE to have active hallucinations. Now with the knights AI thing, this can be fully possible. Have it spawn and immediately start moving to a survivor, if the hallucination gets within range it will try to attack with a regular swing. Weather hit or miss, at the end of the swing it will disappear. To balance this though, I would say the moment it spawns and starts moving it has 5 seconds to get line of sight on a survivor, and hold it for 2 seconds, we'll allow overtime if the 2 second timer is ticking. If it can not, it disappears. If it does, the duration is extended. Maybe 10 or 15 seconds and chases the survivor. At tier 3 madness the hallucination will imitate the red stain and chase music. It would need more balancing then just this but boy would this make his hallucinations actually useable outside of a passive 'survivor is here' mechanic, if you have the add-on anyway.

Great video as always spooky!

I agree with every change. I never thought I'd reach this point.

my suggested change for the death slinger would be to give him a new red addon. I'd call it the live round. the death slinger no longer has a harpoon he shoots out and instead just straight up shoots a bullet. He can only carry three at a time, and he needs to refill them at lockers. Each bullet does one health state of damage. The bullet travels like the harpoon up until 18 meters, at which point it will be affected by bullet drop. the other effects this will cause is an increase in recoil and anything else that might need to be added to balence this out.

In the middle of my morning meeting at work but spooky just dropped 😂😂

for the onryo your right, I think her add-on that makes survivors gain condemned for heals should be base kit, something like if your already consumed you spray it when doing any cooperative interactions, kind of like th docs queen piece

You are the first person i've seen that mentioned the Wesker change that i've been thinking about since the beginning. It always felt awkward that Wesker vaulted the pallet/window with an extra bound and just did... nothing with it and put his power away. I think that being able to bound after vaulting would make his power feel a bit more complete and solidify Wesker as the agile acrobatic maniac we all know and love

I think an addon for The Executioner that would make him Undetectable after putting someone in a cage of torment until they are saved or someone is downed and then a 12 or so seconds after could be a good iridescent add-on. Or something that would grant him undetectable for a while after someone enters a trail or until anyone is injured. And another one could be that injured survivors who save someone from the cage of torment recieve the broken status effect and have their aura revealed for 12 seconds. (This duration is because the Cage is usually far away) Those 2 add-ons would be great as spins on ability interactions with perks.

For Wesker, I think a good trade off would be allowing a shorter ranged second dash after using a dash to vault and if you connect with a survivor you simply hit them the same way you do when your dash connects as they are vaulting. That way you are still offered the chance to get a hit but you don’t have as much of a gap closer nor are you too punishing by being able to grab them

A good quality of life change for the huntress: an impact indicator for hatchets within a certain short distance, or a refusal to throw if it would impact a surface within half a meter so you'd get a better sense of what would block a throw without needing to waste the hatchet and animation to BHVR's jank collision boxes.

I always thought a good change for spirit would be lowering or removing the chase music when you start to phase , it would be sooooo much better than having to look away and break chase before you phase

Spooky your twin buffs are actually pretty insane and game breaking haha. I mean if we assume as a killer we just met a survivor, we can easily release victor and hit them (fairly easy once you practice a bit), then they are guaranteed to be downed within the next 20 seconds? I feel like those changes would be good as long as survivor is not in a chase with Charlotte? Basically like head bomb from pig.

I loved all of the things you said! I hope that maybe some of the devs see this and take even a couple of these and implement them. (Idea: do this with survivor teachable perks)

good video bro, as always! 👍

I absolutely love these videos, your not demanding for these changes just opening up topics for discussion. And some of these are so damn good!! The doctors moving hallucinations are brilliant! Some changes I'd make for my favorite killers. The plague: let survivors hear her whispers instead of a heartbeat when she's in blood vomit. Like a lullaby. The cenobite: make the chains do initial damage base kit. It won't ever down you but injure a healthy survivor. Those chains look idk painful...

I screamed "YES!" when you said make Freddy Robert Englund! I've shared that same opinion since Freddy's release!

Your doctor suggestion is insane, i would definitely crap myself lol

I think the Trickster change with Main Event that you suggested would make such a more fun and better killer. It would make his Iridescent Death Throes Compilation add-on great too since you would be saving time on reloading knives from a locker.

Something for me as even a spirit player that would make alot of sense is more than just the audio as a cue for where you are. One I like is if your within a certain distance of a survivor they could see some sort of effect where you travelled just so they have a idea of your location kinda like a light weight scratch marks just so she is a lot more interesting to loop as I tend to notice my chases end quite briefly when not against a SWF Edit: When I say scratch marks I don’t mean literal scratch marks I just mean some sort of slight but noticeable visual cue every so often where she’s travelling just so the survivor.

Love the Ghostface pitch

If I had a change for pig with her bear traps, it would be if you miss a skill check you have to restart searching a box or you lose progress like you would a gen or so many seconds would be removed off the bear trap for every skill check missed. I think that would make bears traps a little more useful then just a minor issue.

Also I would make it where dredge doesn't have it's super loud directional noise while undetectable. So that during nightfall you can't hear where it is, or during the day if that player is running tinkerer or something.

I think that is very good one of these two ideas… First of all what is over the course of about a minute which slowly get a little bit more translucent. A little bit like the wraith where the farther you are away the harder they are to see, until you are 5 m when they’re completely visible. This way you can’t see them as well and will be surprised by them during a chase every now and then. Either that or imagine a scenario where once a generator is fully repaired all of his bear traps on the map will reactivate so there is less micromanaging of his areas.

Love the Ghostface change suggestion!!

I love this idea for a video. A lot of the changes I would agree with. I wish they would bring back Trappers darkened trap add-ons. I miss them XD