Changing The Finale - Incredibles 2 

"How it's going over there?" "It's good!" "Oh no…" "What?" "He would've said cool." Best revision out of all of them

The “he would have said cool” bit at 8:29 is absolutely genius

I think your proposed finale also helps close Bob's arc. In the first movie, Bob starts out by rejecting Buddy as a partner, because he wants to work alone; by the end of the movie, he does learn to work with his family as a team, but never comes around to working with non-supers who want to save themselves. So, maybe Syndrome was right all along... you don't have to have powers to be super. But the supers have a deeper responsibility to empower the people they're trying to save.

When you said “You’re never going to believe who’s back.”, I thought Syndrome was back somehow.

When they crashed the hydrofoil onto the coast, the last thing the world had heard was a proclamation of war. Communications were disabled after that, so nobody had heard from them since. When they emerged from the boat, everybody cheered.... WHY?!

I’m actually devastated that your incredibles 2 wasn’t incredibles 2

Watching this made me realize what bothered me so much about this movie. It doesn’t really follow the Pixar rules for writing. But these fixes follow some of those rules much better.

That part with the humans helping, THAT felt like an Incredible moment. I wish what we got was closer to this ;-;

I don't think Violet would win. And that's a good thing. I think the fight would start with Violet bubbling Mr Incredible and then we get the straight forward struggle between her will and his strength. But it's not good enough, she doesn't actually want to hurt her dad, so she gives him too much room to move around and he would BREAK the first shield, completely. This would send Violet into a panic so she would probably go invisible. Then we would have a sequence where Violet goes invisible and Mr Incredible tracks her down. First through a hallway, but he keeps up with her and she breaks through a door, her invisibility flickering in her rush. Now with a clue where she is, Mr Incredible would start throwing everything in the room at her, the room is too small for her to hide in, and one of the desks comes too close, Violet has to drop her invisibility and go shields up. Then we would have the classic scene were he begins to beat down on her shield, and in desperation she holds it stronger than the first shield, but with every blow the shield shrinks. And then, the shield is strong enough that Mr Incredible can actually wrap his arms around it, and we watch Violet, now fearing for her life, crying and pleading, as his arms wrap around the shield and crush it, threatening to crush her, *to break her like a twig*, and the mental strain starts to get to her, Violet's conscience starts to fade, her shield flickers. "BOB!" Is all we would hear. And Elastigirl's hand would pull the goggles off just as the shield fails. And we would see recognition cross back into his features, and what was about to be a death embrace would turn into a true hug, we would get to watch Mr Incredible really cry, for a brief moment, over his own actions and how near they came to the worst possible outcome. This would really drive home the possible consequences and probably drive some of the audience to tears. (I nearly cried as I was typing it, but I tend to get too into these things)

Violet starts off on the back foot, throwing up defensive forcefields that Bob keeps smashing. Dash runs by, getting chased by Helen's extended arms. He goes "put a forcefield around his head so he can't breathe!" Vi's like, "I can't do that to dad!" Dash is like, "well do SOMETHING!" and he gets tripped by a stretched leg. Violet thinks for a second, she's kind of freaking out, and gives Bob an opening to throw a big punch at her. She puts up a forcefield at the last second, and his fist punches straight through it and gets stuck. She has an idea. She puts a forcefield around Bob's head, suffocating him. He tries to pull it off, can't, and finally tries to punch it. His fist flies straight through the forcefield, punching himself in the face, and breaking his goggles. This would work especially well if there was some kind of sibling "stop hitting yourself" gag earlier on in the movie, and Violet could quote it here.

Ah, this would have been amazing to see. Love the idea of the public getting involved, the kids actually facing their parents, the threat of Frozone, and Winston being useful

I feel like the Underminer comes somewhat out of left field here. The main villain is the Screenslaver, so a final fight with a completely unrelated villain is perhaps not the best call. So maybe the director can foreshadow this by presenting various posters, articles, or comments about how Supers ruined everything in the Underminer attack, "where is the Underminer?", and other things like that. It keeps him in the back of our mind and in the movie. Which is great.

On the post-credits, I have to disagree with you. The scene that would give the most closure for me would be when Frozone gets home and has to explain to his wife why, after promising that he was only going out for a bit and *DEFINATELY* not doing any superhero stuff was all over national television doing *exactly* what he said he wouldn't be doing. Because I have no idea how he would be able to worm himself out of that one.

One thing I think was missing from Incredibles was a moment that we see dash go really fast. Like the moment we see him run on water is my favorite scene from The Incredibles ever since I was a kid. Maybe this time he could be running up the sides of buildings in the city, and Disney could do a great job animating the gravity and the way he runs.

Pixar needs to hire you.

I was like, "I would have liked to see Syndrome return," then I was like, "Oh right, he's fukin ded."

Lets be honest though, the fight with violet and the teleportation girl worked well in the corridoor.

There were so many ways that they could have stopped the boat in the original movie, but they chose the hardest way possible

what made me mad was the fact that the finale took place on a boat, and not once did dash run on water!!!

On the topic of the Violet Bob fight, here's my take. Since bob is under control he doesn't throw any soft punches, Violet is able to block a few with her shields (getting noticeably worn out as they hit) and tries her invisibility to get behind him and remove the goggles but misses and has to go back on the defensive. As her shield starts to fade she tries to plead to her father under the mask (this works from a story perspective as they've spent a good amount of the film bonding with each other) and his punches become slower and weaker. You get to see some internal conflict from Bob until Evelyn's voice comes through the goggles telling him to finish it. Using both his hands in a clubbing motion he breaks Vi's shield, knocking her to the ground. As he raises his arm, Violet who is barely able to catch her breath, says "I know why you want it back so badly, the chance to save others, give them hope. It was never about the fame or glory. It was because you hated seeing the little guy get stepped on, to live in a world where people stand by and do nothing. To let me Dash and Jack Jack use or powers for something good instead of hiding them from the world. I love you dad, you're my hero". Bob, who's arm slowly dropped during Vi's speech, drops to his knees letting her take off the goggles. I like the idea of her and bob's fight being an emotional one while dash and helen's is technical, with dash actually using his young imagination to outmaneuver his mom.

I both love and hate these videos. I love them, because they're exceptionally well made and thought out. They breathe new life, and innovative ideas into the movies we love, and even some we didn't. I hate this, because it makes me mourn what the movie could have been. The Incredibles 2 as you've described it is far better, in my opinion, to the original. How am I going to enjoy the movie knowing it could've so much better!!!???

Violet V Bob: They square off, Violet tries to talk to her dad (she's more of a thinker than Dash) She uses her invisibility to avoid a few punches but is inadvertently backed into a corner. She creates force fields around her self but they are relentlessly hammered by Bob, flickering under the onslaught, and Violet clearly looks strained. Then Violet has a lightbulb moment; she creates a force field around Bob's head, cutting off his oxygen. This can play out two ways: Bob can punch through the force field and knock himself out (kind of similar to how you had Dash beat Helen); OR, and this is much more emotional, Violet has to fully choke out her dad. Big emotional scene, Violet is crying, Dash is looking on in horror having already unwilling fought his mother. Bob collapses, Violet quickly cuts off the force field and rushes over, rips the goggles off and desperately tried to bring Bob around. Dash flashes to her side, Helen has untangled herself and also crawls over. The family is all clustered round and there's a moment of tension before Bob splutters back to life. Now we've got an extremely emotional fight, but also the big we-are-a-family moment that this film was missing. You've also set up the Parr with the least inclination to fight (Violet) against the most typical fighter (Bob), AND had her triumph, albeit against her will. And lastly we get a really nice moment of vulnerability from Bob, a bit like when he's held captive in Incredibles 1.

I know im a little late but what if the citizens being inspired to help and be heros leads to a rise in non powered vigilantes which could be the plot thread in the next movie.

Glad to know that I'm not the only one who was dissapointed at how easily Violet and Dash got the goggles off of their parents and Frozone.

Personaly, I thought the movie would be going a completely different direction when it was revealed Evelyn was the screen slaver. I thought she genuinely wanted to see the return of supers just like her brother, and had created the screen slaver as an opportunity for Elastigirl to show her worth. This would've put Helen in the situation of having to choose between having supers be legal again but letting Evelyn go, and catching and exposing Evelyn for the criminal she is, but ruining the reputations of supers again. I don't know exactly how that would've turned out, but I think it would've been an interesting plot point. It is a difficult, somewhat morally gray subject, letting one evil deed pass for the greater good, but it is not like pixar hasn't brought up difficult topics in the past.

But man would I have loved to see that traumatic fight between the parents and their kids. It could have been on parr (heheh) with the scene in which Mr. Incredible learns that Syndrome killed dozens of supers. Or on parr with the scene in which Elastigirl is trying to rescue her family from the missiles following their jet, and Mr. Incredible mistakenly thinks his family is dead. Ugh, Pixar! Why didn't you guys try something like this!? A scene with the family members fighting each other would have been a STUPENDOUS foil to the final act in the first film when the family teams up. Pixar if you guys ever make an Incredibles 3 listen to Nando!

My thoughts on the your hypothetical Violet vs Bob fight, is mostly her dodging, and using her shields to block his blows, then she sees that her shields are strong enough to withstand the force of his punches, and takes a risk. Violet is one hundred percent shown to be non-combative, and if it weren't for her boughts of teen angst, I'd even say she's a pure pacifist. Any solution she would have would be something non lethal and as unlikely to cause harm as possible. Her parents use their powers to emphasize their fighting styles, what with Bob swinging like a train and mostly hoping to over power anyone/anything he comes up against, and Helen uses her flexibility and agility to out maneuver her opponents. Given the kids' personality, you'd think that Dash would fight like his dad, seeing as how he's brash and hot-headed like his dad, and Violet would fight like her mum, seeing as she's a thinker, but the opposite is true. Dash will always out maneuver whoever or whatever he's fighting, with his ego not letting him lose, his mindset is his dads, but he fights like his mum. It's only fair that Violet thinks like her mum, but fights like her dad. Her force fields have been shown to withstand a lot in the first movie, from bullets, to the full weight of the Omni Droid, and in this one we see they can also take Bob bashing it, or at least this fight would show that. Which leads her to have the idea to make the force field around her dad's like a rope or some other form of binding, leaving her clear to move in and swipe the goggles.

"You see, I think Incredibles 2 was missing something big. An exciting, spectacular finale, where everyone gets to do their thing, that plays to everyones' strengths" That's what I've been thinking! There weren't enough sequences featuring the family fighting as a team! I know this movie was mostly Helen-centric to contrast how the first movie was Bob-centric, but even the first movie wasn't mostly about Bob. The premise was all about a super hero family.

12:02 To be honest I thought you were gonna say that he was making robots that ran on money, like Mann Vs Machine That would've been hilarious

I was so disappointed when Jack Jack took off Helen’s mask. I was so ready for an epic fight sequence.

Personally, I think more could be done in a end credits scene. It seems like a normal day. Bob's holding Jack Jack, Helen's looking at jobs, Dash's working on homework, and Violet's on the phone with Tony. There's a knock on the door. Helen looks at Bob, who shrugs. She opens the door, and we can hear her talking to someone. "Hey! Long time no see! ...what? No, no, we're not doing much, but... my God." Everyone's already turned to the door by this point, and Helen walks back to the family. She says, "We have a visitor." And out of the way Helen came from... Is Mirage.

the best tagline for the new finale would have been something like, "When everyone's super... nobody needs to be." a better writer can probably think of a line that reflects against the theme of syndrome's original plan.

Christ....your editing is one of the most satisfying thing about your videos. Everything in your clips fits perfectly with your voice. Even the difference between the draft you posted yesterday and the final cut today is noticeable and appreciated. Keep making great content, I cant wait to hear your comments on Into the Spiderverse.

I really like this, but I would change one thing. As opposed to the supers revealing they're under the control of Screenslaver, they should claim that supers are now serving Screenslaver to get their revenge on normal people for all the years of making supers "slaves" to regular society, not being able to live in their own. This way no one would trust supers or screens anymore. Making her goal strictly getting all screens outlawed seems farfetched to me is all, considering how much people have come to rely on them in so many aspects. Other than that, yeah your videos have vastly improved almost everything I found unsatisfactory in the movie.

I can never watch Incredibles 2 again not after hearing what this could have been having ruined me.

I feel like the final battle with Underminer is just forced in there. It doesn't really connect to the main villain's ideology about screens, and as such appears as just a tacked on battle to look more like the Avengers. If you really want that final battle, I'd argue that screenslaver should take over the TVs in an entire town, controlling everyone in the city to attack the supers. The supers don't want to hurt the innocents, so this adds another layer of tension as they desperately try to free the civilians from Screenslaver's control. One by one, they snap them out of it, allowing us to give the heroes some of those same teamwork moments as well as showing how perception of the supers changes as they save everyone. It's during this battle that Winston convinces Evelyn to stop. However, she had built a failsafe into the control system so that Winston or the Incredibles couldn't shut it off, and it's so secure that even she can't stop it. So, we get that scene you suggested with screech and the TVs, but this time convincing the free innocents to help the supers snap everyone out of their trances. This speeds up the process until everyone is saved. That way we still get the message of perception, we get to see just a little bit more action, and it still focuses on Screenslaver as a villain.

So here's my idea for Bob vs Violet: Violet starts off invisible to try and sneak up on Bob. Bob is able to detect her just as she reaches for the glasses and grabs her, forcing her out of her invisible mode. She throws up a force field to force him away and Bob starts bashing the crap out of the field. He manages to break the barrier and hits her so hard she's sent flying across the room. With tears in her eyes, Violet lets loose a scream and sends out a burst of energy so strong it sends Bob across the room and stuns him long enough for her to take off his mind control glasses. Why do I like this scene? A few reasons. First off, it introduces a new power for Violet that makes sense in the context of her character arc. It's been confirmed that each character's powers are indicative of some personality trait or characteristic. In the case of Violet, she can turn invisible and create force fields, which reflect her shy and introverted nature from the first movie. However, by the end of the first movie she's coming out of her shell more, something further explored in the second movie. Not only that, but we see she's becoming more the stereotypical hormonal teenager who struggles to control and understand her emotions. Giving her a power that is the opposite of her current powers, but that she can't control and would rely on her emotions, would make a lot of sense and would be fascinating to see explored in both this movie and the inevitable sequel. Second, it gives us that moment of one of the parents hitting one of the kids, which would be emotionally scarring for said kid. Having it be Bob hitting Violet would give a logical reason as to how she's able to become angry and traumatized enough to unlock her new power and defeat Bob. And third, and most importantly, it gives us a moment where one of the kids straight up overpowers one of the parents, and it being Violet would be amazing. Not only is it a satisfying character moment for Violet, but it also puts her on an arc where she realizes she's actually just as strong, if not stronger, than her parents. This could cause her to become cocky and reckless in the next movie (if it happens) and subsequently set up a conflict for said movie. So there's my suggestion, Nando if you read this then I'm sure you could probably find a way to better expand on and develop it. This is more a skeleton to develop a potential third movie from.

16:50 this only works if one person goes: "you mess with one of us you mess with all of us" 19:10 dam it

I feel more emotion and excitement just listening to your version then I did watching the actual finale

Your description of this alternate ending touched me so much I actually cried. Imagine how impactful the movie version could have been! You should write a movie of your own.

Damn, that fix using Screenslaver's abilities to win public perception was so good I got teary eyed... Just go work in Hollywood already man!

I love this revised story you have built it is definitely an improvement not that I didn't love the sequel for what it was but you're version is hands down better. With that said I would change the after credit scene. The scene would open with a guy we don't know turning off a monitor in disgust. That person was just watching the Incredibles, new heroes, and the townspeople save the day. The monitor guy say's " Looks like Underminer failed to bring down the city. What should we do now sir?" Just than someone steps partially from the shadows. This person has a single bright red eye that keeps zooming in and out, mechanical noises included. While remaining partially shadowed the shadowy figure say's in a disfigured voice "Now.... We move to phase 2" as he say's this the shadowy figure lifts his arm (what seems to be some kind of cybernetic enhancement or prosthetic) and makes a fist as the camera slightly pans downward to reveal a giant "S" on the person's chest than the screen goes black. This ending suggests that Syndrome is alive somehow but didn't get out of that jet engine unscathed. It would also suggest he knew Underminer would fail but that was all apart of his plan. It would explain the Underminer's need for money since Syndrome's assets were frozen in the first film. He needed money so Syndrome could build Underminer's robot army for him along with a few other things I assume. So yeah i think this would make an awesome after credits scene because having Syndrome back in some fashion for Incredibles 3 would be awesome.

I love that writing. "there's no one who screens can't corrupt". that's getting deep. I'd even say in there Evelyn got her idea from seeing a hypno glasses commercial on TV, suggesting she herself like everyone else was corrupted. Not quite "everyone is super/no one is" but up there.

Its a good rewrite, but it seems super long. All that extra action and time added would cost a lot more for the studio. On top of the run time being at least 15-20 more minutes than the run time we got.

While I dig parts of this, the Underminer portion feels literally tacked on and not very related to the rest of the movie. It doesn't feel like a culmination of the events of the film in the same way the Omnidroid does.

Your writting is exactly what i hoped for this sequel.. So, thank you very much ! 😉

I know that you get this every video but... Why aren't you working for Disney or Pixar? You are literally doing a better job than teams of *professionals*

This very finale would probably make the movie 2 hours long, and I would be HAPPY with that!

Damn, the citizens helping each other out bit actually choked me up, well done

How are movie studios not hiring you before they film anything? This was amazing...

This is inspiring me to finish my book. You have an amazing brain.

"i didn't forget, i brought help" i love this line, shame Pixar didn't think of this.

Never clicked on something so fast

Damn it, Nando, you're so brilliant! As for how Violet stops her father, it's a very emotional fight, for Violet. Violet starts out just using her bubble to defend herself. She's very reluctant to do anything offensive that might hurt her dad. She tries to reach him, to get past the brainwashing, but nothing works. Violet is getting really scared, her father will not stop pummeling her force field. Violet cries for her father to stop, the shield is going to break. Violet is worried about what she's going to be forced to do, she doesn't want to do it, but you can see her come to realize that it's the only way to stop him. Bob breaks her barrier. Violet goes invisible. Now with a little distance between them Violet turns visible and launches force fields at her dad, kinda like she did at the beginning of the movie. Bob takes the hits. He's stunned, but not badly hurt. He keeps coming for her. Violet unleashes a barrage of force bubbles at her dad. Much like the quick Ki attacks in Dragon Ball. Damaged, Bob continues to stalk towards Violet. With her back literally against the wall Violet comes up with a last ditch move. Pleading one last time for her dad to stop, Violet creates a force field around Bob's head. Violet is crying, she doesn't want to do this. Her father finally stops advancing toward her, and starts to attack the bubble around his head. He can't breathe. He's starting to suffocate. He collapses to his knees, then starts to crawl and drag himself towards Violet. He finally gets a hand around her ankle and then his head drops. Violet gives it one more second, then drops the field. She hesitantly reaches down and removes the goggles. Then destroys them. She uses a force field to turn his body over and presses her ear to her father's chest, scared that she killed him. She finally hears a heart beat, as his chest moves with an intake of breath. She starts to cry and hugs him tight. Bob comes to a few moments later to find his daughter weeping. He wraps his arms around her, and he tells her how proud of her he is. They have a moment. Bob wipes her tears away and tells her how much he loves her. They stand up, changed forever by the fight, but now closer because of it. Then race off to find Dash and Helen.

I love this so much!

To Nando v Movies: here's how I think this fight should go. Frozone vs The Incredibles The Incredibles run into the room, on a balcony. (Side note: some where before this fight I want Violet to give her mom's Incredibles suit to her mom. Why? Because she's an incredible, she has to wear the suit.) They see Frozone standings in front of the frozen supers, back turned to the Incredibles. Mr Incredible asks "how's it going over there?" Frozone replies "it's good." "Oh no." Mrs Incredible (and I'm going to stick to that original name because she's married, except if she's wearing the Elastigirl costume from both movies) asks "What's wrong?" Mr Incredible says "He would've said cool." Frozone turns around to revel he's wearing one of those hypnosis goggles. Mr Incredible jumps down and runs towards Frozone. Suddenly a portal appears in front of him and he runs though it. The other portal appears above the balcony and Mr Incredible comes out of the portal, crashing through the balcony, bring the family with. Voyd (unharmed) appears to be hiding under the balcony. She leaves the Incredibles to Frozone and starts working trying to free the frozen super. Mr and Mrs Incredible get up and instantly get hit by Frozone's ice beam. Mr incredible is completely frozen while Mrs incredible is half frozen. Mr incredible breaks free, then turns to his wife. Mrs Incredible tries to stretch thin to slip free but she can't do it without breaking, so Mr Incredible tries to help her out. Dash runs at Frozone. Frozone creates a slipper ice under Dash's feet, Dash starts to slide, crashing into a table. Violet turns invisible. Frozone makes snow around him. He sees her tracks, grabs her and throws her to where Dash is at. Mrs Incredible is free thanks to Mr Incredible, and they see Violet and Dash defeated and injured. Voyd frees the frozen supers. Mr and Mrs incredible stand in front of the kids, protecting them. Frozone charges a ice blasts, Refluxs builds up a lava vomit, and Heletrixs is charging up electricity. Winston talks to Evelyn about their dad of what he did and what it means to be a hero. "Stories about heroes aren't about betting up bad guys. They're about sacrifice and doing what right. They give us strength to do the hard thing if it means losing everything. Gives people the courage to die so they can save the people they love." Evelyn thinks about this. Starting to believe that her farther died so he can save his children. She looks at a security camera in the conference room. She sees the parents standing between the other supers and their kids. Then she notices tears in the parents eye's, knowing they are going to die but knowing that they are keeping their kids safe. She looks at the remote in her hand and deactivates the mind control goggles. The supers are free at the last second. Everyone apologies. Fight over, and Evelyn has turned good. That's how I would imagine the fight would go out. I know it's short but I want the movie under 2 hours if we are including the Underminer in the end. Let me know what you think of the fight.

Bob vs Violet Fight: Violet uses her invisibility to lure Bob into a trap of some sorts but it ultimately fails. Bob is able to grab Violet and throws her against a wall. Violet is VERY hurt from this (possibly has broken ribs or something but subtle to keep that PG rating). Bob prepares to literally crush his daughter to death under the mind control. The Screenslaver (after hesitating for a moment) decides upon this because she realizes that if she has footage of a famous Super MURDERING a defenseless child, Supers will NEVER become legal again. It would be the ultimate last step in her plan, arguably even more impactful than assassinating the UN leaders. Right before Bob lands he final blow, Violet uses the last of her strength to put up a forcefield. It stops Bob, but only barely, so he keeps punching it over and over again. The forcefield is getting weaker with every blow, the music is swelling, Violet keeps pleading and calling out to her father over and over BEGGING him to stop. This would be REALLY tense and dramatic as these two family members bonded the most throughout the movie. Bob finally breaks through and right before he finishers her off, Violet discovers a NEW power: telepathy. The last time she screams, she’s able to communicate it directly to Bob’s brain/psyche. This MIGHT seem like a cop out, but it’s already been shown through Jack Jack that children can still be developing their powers. Besides, telepathy hasn’t been introduced in the Incrediverse yet and it would fit for Violet. Anyway, Bob returns back to his original mental state, but his body is still being controlled by the Screenslaver. He is, however, able to see what he’s done to his own daughter. Enraged by what the Screenslaver has done to him and his family, Bob proceeds to start fighting the mind control with the help of Violet’s new power. Now either he’s able to get it off and the fight ends, OR he’s “not strong enough” (which would be a callback to the first movie) and it’s with the help of his ENTIRE family coming in (after the Helen/Dash fight) encouraging him that he can break control. It would be really emotional and shit and give Bob a FULL character arc from what he’s gone through in Incredibles 1, being a stay at home dad in Incredibles 2 and bonding with his kids, and then what happens in this climax I wrote... BUT NAH LET’S HAVE THE FUNNY BABY JUST _TAKE OFF THE GOGGLES_ WHO NEEDS REAL STAKES AND CONSEQUENCES IN STORYTELLING

Violet's force field could cut off Bob's oxygen supply, making it difficult for him to breathe/concentrate! That's a trick the Invisible Woman uses all the time, and for a brief period in the early 90s, when she became a villain named Malice, she used that as her primary heel tactic. If Violet uses this consistently, is scarily effective with it, and that puts a boatload of fear for her and Dash's future in Bob and Helen, we might have a nice little villain arc for Incredibles 3.

Man these videos make me so sad because you have ideas on how to make them so good. The worst movies for me are mediocre ones like this or Age of Ultron etc, because of how much wasted potential they have. Say what you want about ‘bad’ movie but at least they can mostly be entertaining for what they are, mediocre movies are always meh and forgotten over time.

Yes, a fight in Edna's mansion would be incredible!

Anyone remember the Incredibles video game? When you go through the Underminer's lair and defeat all the mech's with Mr. Incredible and Frozone? No? Just me? Okay.

So, for Violet vs Bob, my idea revolves around the kids getting new suits from Edna... in the first Incredibles, Edna figured out how to make Violet’s suit go invisible with her because of the electric stimulation so.... why not give her that ability in her gloves? So she picks up all kinds of bars, balls, and improvised weapons and makes them invisible, all with different lengths so Bob can’t figure out how to dodge. The reason why Sue Richards (Invisible Woman from Fantastic Four) is considered the most powerful member of the FF is because of how versatile her powers are. So the key here is to get Violet to start thinking flexibly like how Elastigirl does. It would show growth from I.1, new powers, and show how strength isn’t everything. Which leads into your team up battle pretty well too. Also, I’m not entirely sure how Edna would upgrade Dash’s suit.... maybe something that HARNESSES the Friction generated instead of negating it? Pull a Flash lightning throw maybe? Or Dash figures out how to exploit his speed to create a vortex, or phantom images of himself, or... something. Not sure. But yeah! Those are my thoughts. I also want more child supers..... like... why only the Incredikids?

You should work at Pixar, The movies would be so much BETTER!!!

I just can't believe how much detail went into this. I absolutely, positively love everything about this re-write, especially the "He would've said cool" comment.

I really thought that when you were setting up your line of, now I’m paraphrasing this, “Do we really need supers?” Said by Winston, I really thought you were setting them up to be villains. And he was showing Mr. Incredible failing to lift up the rubble to send a message to the people that the heroes aren’t strong enough to protect them, and that they should take up arms so they don’t rely on heroes. It could be a smoother transition into Evelyn’s motivation in the first movie about no reliance on heroes, without the whole legalization thing.

I honestly found it weird that the climax took place on a boat. And that is was not really a final battle. And was kinda boring becouse it was more sneaking and just coming across enemies. Actually I was highly dissapointed that it took place on the boat. I was hoping that it took place in the city since the first film took place on the island. It could have been a much more big scale and epic finale. Hypnotized supers all over the place. Not Jack-Jack messing up in a good way. God, so much potential SQUANDERED! How much more do I need to complain about this film? Edit: I don't know about the Underminer being the final antagonist. I would find it weird that suddenly that the Underminer is the villain after the whole movie building up the Screenslaver (real screenslaver, Evelin is boring but just my opinion). It's better that the Underminer is saved for the third film or he is actually beaten in the opening. but I do agree that the final battle should take place in a city.

ngl hearing your finale actually gave me goosebumps. This way better than what we got, it uses earlier elements well and fixes the main villain while still adding an intense final action scene.

Sounds very interesting but I have a couple complaints that are just my opinion. 1, I don't think Evelyn would give up her ideals so easily and 2, it would be seen as too close to Avengers Age of Ultron and would be accused of copying it. But, in all great vid and keep it up

Dont get me wrong I love this script. But the underminer part seemed a little tagged on at the end. I think u should have underminer and Evelyn working together. Once Evelyn realises what she had done then she tries to convince the underminer to stop. He doesn't listen and continues on with his rampage. Evelyn says something like "What have I done, this is all my fault" the typical type of banter. But then Winston says something like "Then help me fix it" and they do the suit cam thing like u said. I think this really helps create the family dynamic between the two that I thought we lacked in the movie. And then once everything dies down, Winston could say something like "dad would have been proud". I think this really could help redeem evelyn and drive home the point that she has changed.

The way you wrote the part where all the heroes fought the Underminers robot army of "underlings" and the part where the regular people help out in the chaos was really powerful. Got me emotional a little bit.

This gave me chills and goosebumps, the motivation part with the normals brought tears to my eyes

To me, it would be hard to buy that two full grown, well-practiced supers in Bob and Helen, would lose to two kids who have fought bad guys no more than a handful of times. Additionally, I think the finale takes place on a boat in the original so that they don't have to worry about the destruction of the city. In the recent super films, and the beginning of Incredibles 2, that was a big deal. On a boat, you can do whatever damage you want while in the city you need to limit things so you don't destroy buildings or streets where innocents are being hurt. Another thing I would wonder about with this is the length. I don't think Disney would want to make an animated family film that's closing in on 2 and a half hours. Maybe this version wouldn't be much longer, but it was just something I thought of. I definitely like a lot of the things you brought up though. Some of the scenes sound really touching and who wouldn't want to see all the supers fight together (though I'm not a huge fan of fighting a legion of mindless robots, personally). I also wish, like you, Incredibles 2 had involved the regular folks at the end somehow. Maybe have the supers on the boat work with police to sort things out or something. Really interesting video!

Dude that finale brought tears to my eyes. The normies helping Mr incredible and the supers was just perfect. Good job as always.

THIS is why I subscribed. THIS was the video which let me find your channel. YOU are INCREDIBLE (crap, i swear that wasn't planned). You make thought experiments, and they are great. They aren't stupid, they seem logical, and you accept that they didn't happen. Thank you

Completely unrelated to your plot changes, but you know who would have made the perfect foil to Evelyn/the Screenslaver? Honey. We never see her on screen (so far), which matches Evelyn's desire to always be behind the scenes rather than the focus. It could turn out that Honey is also a Super, and there's nothing in the films refuting this. It would be kind of odd for Frozone to marry a non-Super anyway since he's very much into the superhero thing like the Parr family. Honey would be a Super that due to her specific powers had an easier time hiding them and integrating into society, unlike the Supers with flashier powers like her husband for example. And what better power as a foil to Screenslaver than giving her the ability to use her voice as a source of mind control? Specifically when she sings or speaks in a certain way. Either let her have Honey as her actual Super name or nickname her something like Siren. Honey could use her own mind control to break the other Supers out of Screenslaver's mind control, and since she could do it with a more archaic form of technology (the radio) or in person, Evelyn won't be able to control Honey herself via screens. Hell, Honey could even try to call the UN, Evelyn could intercept the call, and then Honey could use her mind controlling power to talk Evelyn into shutting off the goggles on the Supers. Fwiw, Honey's name does allude to a mind control voice ability, as being "honey-tongued" means you're able to persuade people into doing things they might not on their own.

These two videos of yours are great. Not only did you articulate every vague thing I didn't like about Incredibles 2, you fixed all of them AND wrote a great finale to boot.

Never actually watched the Incredibles 2, but a bonus scene that you described feels so satisfying! Oh yeah, and a good video too, as always :) Violet VS Bob. I feel that Violet would be full on defense mode, Bob will attack constantly from different sides and not give Violet a breather. Violet could try to reach for glasses, but she would never succeed. Then she creates a barrier around Bob and thinks for a moment while Bob as a raging bull trying to smash it - and cut to Dash VS Helen finale. After cutting back to Violet VS Bob and Bob starts to smash floor to go under a barrier. Violet panics for a moment and says "It's time to do something incredible" and jumps on Bob. When she touches a barrier she lets a barrier create full cover around her for a second or two, Bob notices Violet and smashes her, but at that moment Violet grabbed that screen glasses and she flies into a wall with them, and full cover barrier breaks after that. A lot of dust, Bob is terrified - "What have I done?" - dust settles and violet is unharmed. They say something sweet to each other.

Usually I really like your edits, but I’m not a fan of what the underminer does at the end. Having a million robots does exactly what the avengers do and it’s boring seeing boring mobs destroyed. I like the big element idea you were talking about with a bigger scale and I really think what you said about frozone means he should be the final boss. Granted it is a kids movie but people are scared by lion king, bambi and others all do this. I think you set it up but didn’t cross the finish line. Still a better edit than the actual movie tho

Lets not forget Mr. Incredible was still classified as the most dangerous super in the Incrediverse clocking in at the highest danger level. Granted Jack Jack might be stronger but I kinda felt that he almost lost strength between the movies. We went from punching the omnidroid a very large distance to kinda not being able to push through some pipes? That just kinda bugged me in the movie a little.

I love your version of the movie! It fixes a lot of the problems I had with the original movie, mostly that it was boring and unsatisfactory with super low stakes....and I just didn’t care about what was going on. Listening to your rewrite alone got me super pumped up and excited! Such wasted potential

Going in: Oh sweet! I love the original finale but NvM always makes super in -depth and well written finales; wonder how his stacks up! Post Viewing: ...So can this be the new version of the finale?

This video was great until the final battle starts. It just feels like you added on a last second battle and you did the "disposable army" thing and the movie could have ended after the frozone v incredibles battle. Im not saying its a bad idea but you've been able to make so many better versions of movies.

This is freaking brilliant! On a side note, one other thing I would add would maybe be for the Underminer to somehow be in cahoots with the Screenslaver, like she would have the supers under control while he activates his plan and right before the battle she's like "Sigh...it's too late...you can't stop him now." Something along those lines.

For a second, I forgot that this isn't the actual ending because it's so much better, amazing job!

Daughter vs. Father: I feel like this fight would be a great opportunity to tackles Violet and Bob's relationship. At the beginning of the fight, Violet could try to be calm and try to talk him out of the hypnosis via the ol' "It's me, your daughter. I know this isn't blahblahblah." This seems to work at first with Bob pausing and blankly staring at Violet; it becomes abundantly clear that this doesn't work Bob does a battle cry and charges at Violet. Violet runs out of the UN room and into the hallway, horrorified of her own hulking father coming at her full force. She puts up a basic bubble shield around herself to block his blows. Her shield is able to defend against the attacks, but it flickers from the force of each punch and slam, indicating that he could easily break it in just a few more hits. During this time, Violet starts a monologue along the lines of "So this is what you and mom have been working towards? Have been sacrificing yourselves for?" She starts to gain a little more confidence, at which point Bob breaks the shield, knocking Violet down. Violet turns invisible and escapes Bob's attempted final blow. She then continues the monologue as she keeps getting cheap hits in from different directions. Since he's been rendered a bit more simple of a fighter without the Screenslavers direct control, he starts flinging wildly. Violet turns visible again so we can she her push her father towards the stairs at the end of the hallway with her smaller force fields (like we she her use in the fight against teleporty-lady in the original). Violet is getting even more aggressive in both her attacks and tone, ridiculing her father for allowing this to happen to him, perhaps letting her teenage angst getting the better of her. This is where Bob is able to clearly locate her, grab her, and throw her at the railing right at the top of the stairs. Violet lands on the railing with her back, clearly doing a lot of damage to the point where she can't stand back up. As Bob slowly walks towards her, cracking his knuckles to finish off his daughter, Violet looks up at Bob, almost petrified by his sheer power. She can't win against Bob in a fair fight. She looks at Bob's goggles, trying to rack her brain as to how she can get them off. Bob puts his fists in the air; Violet puts up another, smaller bubble shield around herself. The shield easily breaks again, causing Violet to fall again. He goes for another overhead slam, but Violet musters enough strength to put up another shield, which once again gets broken easily. This rhythm continues again and again. We get a cut to the Screenslaver watching Bob's fight, reacting with "C'mon, just fall already" or something like that. Violet seems to be getting used to the pattern, starting to get up on her knees panting. "You... never gave up... even when you weren't sure what to do... or what was right...You never gave up on me." At this point, Bob gives up on the overhead slams and grabs Violet by the neck, slamming her through the railing and holding her over the stairs, about to drop her already frail and exhausted body down a few floors. Violet is barely able to muster one last sentence: "So.. I'm... not giving up... on you either." With that, she charges a bit of a spark in her fingers as she forms a miniature shield-slice-beam thing like we saw at the beginning of the movie and launches directly upwards, slicing the hypnosis goggles in half. Violet blacks out, and Bob shakes head in confusion, letting go of Violet. In slow motion, Violet falls. Bob sees his daughter falling; his eyes grow wide, and by instinct, Bob jumps and grabs his daughter mid-air, turning and and taking all of the impact of the fall. Bob looks at his daughter, sees the damage all over her body, and realizes what he's done. He holds her tight in anguish, torn up after fighting his own daughter. We aren't sure if she's even okay until Violet says "D-Dad, too tight, ow, ow." He pulls back; we see Violet is now conscious. Bob tries to apologize, emotionally stuttering on every syllable, but Violet is quick to interrupt and forgive him. "You were under mind-control by a villain called 'Screenslaver.' How else could this have gone down?"

I love everything you say UNTIL the underminer finale. Sorry but it feels forced and just kinda thrown in and would’ve made the movie too long. I think you could’ve had your “citizen help” moment somehow without creating a whole additional 30 minute scene

One of my biggest aggravations with the movie is Mrs. Incredible having a new suit and no one else is getting one. It takes away from the family aspect the first one built up.

It’s and the idea about changing Screenslaver for the last movie really would’ve propelled this to be one of the best superhero movies of all time. You did fantastic. One could even say you did... *Incredible*

I was hoping you'd say Syndrome comes back but Underminer is cool too

I’m having a hard time with this ending. The Underminer is to much in my opinion. Much like Doomsday was too much in Batman v Superman. One of the big issues with Incredibles 2 is the fact that it rehashes themes that we seen in superhero movies over the past decade. This fix would just include one of those clichés (a robot army). I think at some point the Incredibles should realize that they’re not going to be able to get the glasses off of everyone and they should make a new plan. Elastagirl should leave to stop the screenslaver on the plane because the glasses are controlled from inside the plane. Bob and the kids hold everyone off while she does that. Helen is like, “Are you sure I should go honey?” Bob says, “We got this, go save the world.” Bob has struggled to let go of the breadwinner mentality. This concludes his arc. We get a similar sequence in the air the we got in the movie. The glasses get turned off. The End. No robots.

It never fails that for every okayish blockbuster, you can find a youtube video made by a genius who rips it apart and makes it lightyears better in ways you would never expect.

Honestly i love the idea that dash thinks like his dad but fights like his mom and that violet thinks like her mom but fights like her dad. I feel like violet would be way more aggressive than dash when it comes to fighting idk why.

You need to use your Patreon money to build a time machine, and go back to a few years ago, and tell Brad Bird "Hey, about that sequel..." That was amazing! Have you seen Seamus Gorman's video on changing the Screenslaver? It's pretty good; maybe if your idea and his idea would merge, it would be mind-blowing.

1:26 Should've called daredevil

I like the lasting effects of the kids parents hurting them. Like Bob reaches over pat Flash on the head for doing something, but instead flash visible flinches

Man , your whole rewrite, with the screenslaver one as well is such a brilliant movie. On.. Parr with the original Incredibles

I totally agree with you, Jack Jack is cute and everything but in the finale, he was only used as a tool to keep the story going. Also, he snapping the glasses out of Elastigirl heads was totally cheesy, Violet and Dash teaming up and beating his parents would add a whole more of value

Can you pitch Venom 2?!?

I love how you went for the robot army for the Underminer as that's what happens in the game; it'd be a nice callback for people who enjoyed the game to get a proper reference to it

you lost me a little bit towards the middle, but boy, the ending is AMAZING! I wish it was that way