Charge Your Power Station In Your Car FASTER - Perfect for Overlanding, Car Camping, and Van Life!

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Do you want to charge your power station faster in your car? Do you want to have a decent alternative to solar charging? In this video I show three different DC to DC boost converters that allow your large power station to charge as much faster rates!
In this video I tested with SIX different large power stations: The EcoFlow Delta 2 and Delta Max, the Bluetti AC200Max, the FFpower P2001, the Pecron E2000LFP, and the Anker 767!
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Video Timestamps:
How Does This Work?: (0:00)
Introducing the Converters: (1:04)
Max Power On SIX Power Stations: (2:40)
How Efficient Are They?: (7:01)
Do They Get Hot?: (9:05)
What Wire Size Is Needed?: (10:27)
Testing In My Truck: (12:02)
Final Thoughts: (16:22)
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@Jasonoid Год назад

**Which DC Boost converter would you go with? (Affiliate Links)** -Victron Orion 20 Amp Converter - amzn.to/41JRUPh -12v to 36v 20 Amp Converter - www.ebay.com/itm/275696879479 -12v to 24v 20 Amp Converter - amzn.to/40rEW7C

@chadrogers3161 Год назад

I went with cheap one just as a way to get started on the idea.

@brucereyesss Год назад

Hi Jason. Do you have a tutorial where you connect the converter from the starter battery? What did you need?

@Jasonoid Год назад

@@brucereyesss I don't have a specific video. Google "how to wire an inverter to your truck battery" and you'll get some good ideas there for wiring. Then instead of an inverter, use one of these DC to DC converters.

@BrianHotsauceBauer Год назад

So are these basically the same thing as a renogy 60amp dc to dc battery charger?

@royrobinson4636 10 месяцев назад

@@BrianHotsauceBauer ~ These are more like mini transformers that increase the voltage (12v-24v) which lowers the amps (20-10amp). You will get the same watts with either 12v X 20amps = 240 watts, or 24v X 10amps = 240 watts. With a *Delta 2 you can import up to 500 watts via the XT-60 port but only at a 15amp/60 volt limit, so using a 12-48 volt "boost converter" (aka transformer) you can input 48 volts X 10 amps = 480 watts 😎 You can also use a pure sine wave inverter and import up to 1200 watts using the standard A/C charge cord. Charging your *Delta 2 in less than an hour. The only downside to that is the inverter will use some energy while it's running, with a load on it or not.

@jakedickinson 7 месяцев назад

For anyone wanting to use the 12 - 36v 20amp converter. You can fit 2 x 80mm pc case fans on the top. The unit is 160mm long and 113mm wide. The fan mounting holes line up perfectly in between the cooling fins. Using the fan mounting holes as a guide tap out 4 x .7 mm threads. Works very well.

@Jasonoid 7 месяцев назад

Excellent information, thank you!

@seanyoung477 6 месяцев назад

I thought I could mount the 12-36v 20amo converter behind the grill for airflow. Would this be a good idea?

@Jasonoid 6 месяцев назад

@@seanyoung477 I guess as long as all the connections are waterproof and secure.

@Maginnes2010 2 месяца назад

@@Jasonoid thank you for the video great information. I do have a question about what size fuse. Would you recommend for 5 feet of six gauge wire we are talking about the 12 V to 36 V unit. It says it peaks at 720 W.

@Maginnes2010 2 месяца назад

Forgot to mention I’m using Anker F2000/767 power station

@michaeljuers574 Год назад

This solves a huge problem for me. I really wanted to use an all in one unit for my van build but the lack of decent dc charging through a cigarette lighter plug was a deal breaker. This method now gives you the shore power, solar and dc to dc option that makes an all in one unit an option. Now I don’t have to wade into the build your system from scratch nightmare I was envisioning. Any of those larger units will provide all the power I need and I have the option of taking it out of the van when I need it somewhere else. Thank you!

@Jasonoid Год назад

Your comment makes the whole video worth it, I'm glad I was able to help solve your issue :)

@natecleans 8 месяцев назад

Can you do this with any of the jackery solar generators?

@Jasonoid 8 месяцев назад

You'll need to confirm the maximum input voltage to make sure you don't go higher than what's allowed. That info should be in the owners manual.

@TheCornucopiaProject-bd5jk Месяц назад

Make sure your alternator can handle the load.

@captaincurt3180 Год назад

Jason, once again, you present useful, practical information that has real world application!

@Jasonoid Год назад

Thank you, Captain :)

@OCMOOMOMO 8 месяцев назад

After watching this a few times and deep diving into the info, I have come to appreciate your knowledge and details of testing and presentation. Bravo!!

@johnroyer3191 Год назад

Thanks for the hard work Jason. Really appreciate all you do. You are my go to for this stuff. It helps so much, especially being newer to all this.

@Jasonoid Год назад

Thanks John! Appreciate the feedback

@RanchoTexano Год назад

Another great video Jason! I installed a Renogy 40A DC to DC charger in my Gladiator and it works fantastic.

@andrewvickers4487 10 месяцев назад

Great stuff Jason, you continue to be a huge help on this steep learning curve! FWIW, from reading the comments here and on one or two of your other related videos I'm leaning towards a 500W inverter over a DC converter for price and practicality.

@ItsEverythingElse Год назад

So much great info. I've never seen anyone mention the different XT60s for the Ecoflow. 😍

@mas921 Год назад

this is your BEST video yet! the moment I was thinking like "this needs a fan" and what do you know you did test it with a fan, same goes with wire gauges and the in car demonstration. excellent stuff!

@Jasonoid Год назад

This was a super fun project!

@robertlueke3238 Год назад

Great demonstration video. People are asking all the time on the solar generator forums how to boost the charging output from their car batteries. This video answers a lot of questions. Thanks for putting this demo together.

@Jasonoid Год назад

You're welcome! If you happen to see one of threads in the forums, just share the video with them 🙂👍

@jamestarpley162 10 месяцев назад

This guy rocks very helpful and informative as well! I would love to give him 5 Stars!

@KeysTreasures Год назад

Data overload, Love it. Thanks for all you do Jason.

@Jasonoid Год назад

I succeeded in my goal! Haha you may have to pause the video to see all the info in the graphs! Thanks for checking out the video!

@jimpierson2542 Год назад

Awesome video!! Great information for over landing and van life!!

@ricardomarcelino8388 Год назад

Very interesting video and an apples to apples comparison. Congratulations!!!

@gregmgm06 Год назад

Great video, great info! I just bought a portable fridge and Jackery 1000, so your videos are very helpful.

@Jasonoid Год назад

You'll get some great fridge runtimes on the Jackery 1000.

@CessnaPilot99 6 месяцев назад

Wow this is some high quality content bro. Subscribed

@acutaboveww Год назад

Great comparison. You could have done this with just one power station, but that would not have been nearly as informative. I learned a lot, thank you soooo much. Real world test with real world results. Awesome

@Jasonoid Год назад

I wanted to show many different scenarios so that the video could apply to many different viewers, more helpful that way :)

@KatysCampKitchen Год назад

Phenomenal information and video! Thanks so much! Love the thermal imaging!

@Jasonoid Год назад

Thanks, Katy!

@g00dgh0st Год назад

Nice job! Have not seen this covered similarly.

@keithbrookshire Год назад

You have a ton of great info in this video that I haven't previously considered. Thank you! I have the FFPower (same unit, different brand) and an EcoFlow River Por. So, I think the smaller, cheaper converter would make sense for me. You must have read my mind about putting a fan on that one converter!

@Jasonoid Год назад

Yep, adding a fan is cheap and easy!

@Sylvan_dB Год назад

Wow, great testing! That was a lot of work. Thank you!

@Jasonoid Год назад

It was a super fun project. Lots of work but I found lots of great info too. Thanks for checking it out 👍

@jacksherman7445 10 месяцев назад

Great information and, as always, well done! My Delta 2 has a 60 DC volt limit, so any of these will work well. However, because there is a 15 amp limit for the Delta 2, a lower amperage converter might work just as well as be less expensive!

@MattLesak Год назад

Nice summary Jason!

@nevv8581 Год назад

Really interesting vid. Thank you for the extensive results. I think I would buy the cheapest version. It seems to give pretty impressive results, despite being hot. Keep up the great work!

@Jasonoid Год назад

Even the small option speeds up charging quite a bit. It's also doesn't take up much space so that's a plus!

@RandiG63 Год назад

Great video Jason Im always learning something from you Thank you 👍🏻

@Jasonoid Год назад

You are very welcome :)

@ChocolateManInThailand 11 месяцев назад

All my questions were answered. Thanks!!

@ReviewsandTech Год назад

very nice options and cool comparisons too, I have the Delta Max 2000 but also smaller power stations too, very helpful video, thank you so much. Now let me bring my checkbook to get a Victron, lol.

@shelley131 8 месяцев назад

Excellent video, simply you are a rock star!

@campbellsoup4910 Год назад

What up Doe!? Honestly I would need two for use with a large (2000w) and smaller(300w) power station. The 12-36v converter and the $35 converter. Great review as usual Dr J' 👍🏼

@ricklavis5292 10 месяцев назад

I have an ac200max in my Transit van. I installed a 1200 watt pure sine inverter connected to the 175amp 12 volt customer connection point in the van. I use the 500 watt AC power brick that came with the power station to charge it. In addition I have the 12 volt cable that plugs into the 12 volt outlet in the van and the solar input on the Bluetti. You can use both simultaneously and so I can charge at over 500 watts. I have used this for two years without any issue.

@RL-sv9mo 2 месяца назад

What 1200 watt pure sine inverter did you use?

@dinobernardi170 5 месяцев назад

Love your videos....clear and concise. Thank you

@Jasonoid 5 месяцев назад

Thanks! This one was really fun to film!

@Zbee167 7 месяцев назад

This is great! Thanks for sharing.

@todd.parker Год назад

Epic video. These boost converters are the way to go. I have one of those cheap converters, I need to wire it up!

@Jasonoid Год назад

It sure charges faster with these boosters 👍

@strannick2212 2 месяца назад

quality comparative analysis. thanks

@davidgalindo576 Год назад

GREAT VIDEO. THANK YOU JASON.

@sellC1964 Год назад

Great video!

@BLUETTIOfficial Год назад

Great video Jason!

@Jasonoid Год назад

Thanks, Bluetti! 😁

@mannys4036 Год назад

I can tell a lot of hard work went into this video which is much appreciated. I found this information to be very helpful. This is something I would not do personally as it way too confusing. When you speak this type of information quickly is too hard to absorb. I would need a class just on understanding the capability of just one power station, let alone four of them. It would be interesting to know if anyone has had any adverse effect on the vehicle's alternator or vehicle performance using these devices. It seems like a viable alternative to charging your power station, but I currently lack clear understanding of going from volts to watts; having the right type of connects and so on. I know your very smart about your testing. I one day hope to aspire to reach your confidence and understanding. Your channel gives me general knowledge, but this is not something I would undertake. But I still learned more about alternatives and that is what was important to me.

@Jasonoid Год назад

The learning curve for electricity and solar is a bit steep. You'll pick it up with time if you keep trying to learn. I was in your shoes only a few years ago but having so many resources available and studying I am now much more familiar with how it all works. You'll get there, just keep reading and watching videos :)

@gonzalez7805 Год назад

Goid video, great job 👍

@mdunbar04 Год назад

Great Video

@PWoods-cd6tk Год назад

You just reminded me that I want to bump up my alternator on my 1966 Mercury Comet. I already bumped it up from 40 or whatever the original was to 100 for AC, Electric Fans, and Electronic Fuel Injection, but since I started rolling around with my EB3A pugged into the cigarette lighter all of the time to get a fast charge on my phone, I've thought about incorporating something bigger. Great video, thanks.

@Jasonoid Год назад

Wow, alternators have sure come a long way in terms of power!

@PWoods-cd6tk Год назад

@@Jasonoid Yeah, I did not know the output was so high on the new ones until this video. Lots of possibilities for mobile backup power with this - I want to replace my 6500 watt generator at work with a split phase 48 volt setup, and now I'm thinking about just having it in my truck and plugging into panels in the afternoon when I leave work to top off instead of having everything on a trailer and plugging in a charger occasionally. I monitor 42 groundwater wells with mostly 4 inch grundfos submersibles from 350 to 600 feet every quarter. California will stop selling generators at some point or they will have to be permitted. Right now, anything over 50 hp has to be permitted. Keep it up - the videos are very helpful and inspiring.

@mrp55net Год назад

@@Jasonoid My 2001 GMC Sierra 1500 came stock with a 105A alternator. After buying a Renogy 40A DC to DC battery charger, I upgraded the alternator to 145A (total) Idle amperage will be lower.

@406Campr Год назад

Great Video! Subd. Very detailed to include how to connect, which is what I was looking for. I had to purchase my Orion 12/24-20 from NAZ Solar since Amazon was out of stock. Connecting it to my Ford Transit CCP and adding a switch.

@Jasonoid Год назад

That should work well!

@utuberinxs 9 месяцев назад

Excellent and useful video!

@Jasonoid 9 месяцев назад

Glad it was helpful!

@jasonbroom7147 Год назад

Another very good video! I'd get the Victron with the active cooling and adjustable voltage output, so I know it's safe and will work with a wide variety of products. Also, the Victron has a wired on/off option that can be connected to your ignition switch, so it doesn't draw anything unless your vehicle is running (see below!) It's worth mentioning that none of these are designed with a low-voltage cut-off, so depending on how they're wired they could drain your vehicle battery to the point where it damages it or leaves you with no way to start your vehicle. That's why most DC-DC converters are more complicated and more expensive than these products.

@Jasonoid Год назад

Very good points, Jason. It would be wise to have a system disconnect built in that turns it off when not in use. I wish I would have mentioned that in the video. Thanks for the tip!

@nordic5490 11 месяцев назад

Flat starter battery is a non issue now. I have 2 cheap lithium jump startes, both have been thrashed for a couple of weeks when I had a dead battery, and both work perfectly. You should keep one iin your glovebox.

@stevemonlux7857 7 месяцев назад

The battery drain problem may be able to be solved by installing a Newdeli 12v 140 amp voltage sensitive relay (battery isolator) - any thoughts?

@welshieonwheels 4 месяца назад

Great video thank you very much , so I have a Victron isolated B to B 30 amp which will be going to my 200 Amp leisure battery if I connected the Victron voltage boost to my leisure battery to charge a Bluetti 200 would that be ok ? I’m guessing by doing that it’s not going to run my van battery flat ? May be run my leisure battery down , but could put an automatic switch, or will it overload B to B thank you well done good luck 👍👍👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🇬🇧🇨🇦🦢

@EfficientRVer Год назад

Good info. On my GoLabs R300 power station that maxes DC charging out at 3A up to 60W, I'd be tempted to get a 12-19V converter for $15. That would up car charging to 57W charging vs 40W, but instead I use a USB-C PD to get near the advertised 60W PD input. Still can power that plus my freezer off the 12V 10A cigarette lighter outlet and 300W pure sine inverter. Bulletproof little inverter that I got for $35, though now it's usually $50 or more. You could build a crock pot around that 36V unit. 155F isn't very scary until you realize that was probably 120F over ambient, so in the desert you'd routinely see it at boiling temps, where it could be the basis for a rice cooker rather than crock pot.

@Jasonoid Год назад

Great idea using that USBc 60 watt charging option :) Another great option to use for your smaller power stations.

@justinlarhette1522 Месяц назад

Great information. I have been planning on doing this for my Ecoflow delta pro in my Sprinter van conversion. The only thing I have not figured out yet is an automatic transfer switch, so I can keep the solar panels and the alternator charging separated on the single solar input on the Ecoflow. My current plan is to just use a manual transfer switch, which are readily available, but it would be nice to have one that automatically switches to the alternator charging when the vehicle is turned on

@peterb2003ifly Месяц назад

If these are using the solar input, could this be wired in parallel with the panels? Would this back feed the car charging system and blow it up? If I could I would like to be able to charge extra when towing the trailer while also charging from the panels installed on the trailer. Any ideas on this.

@josephdonnaway5755 Год назад

Excellent testing and analysis. Another option: I have 320 W of solar on my truck cap charging my Delta Max w/ two extra Smart Batteries. This is a duplicate system and backup to that in my travel trailer. This DC-DC arrangement would occupy the solar input port, whereas with an AC inverter in the truck, the Delta Max will accept both inputs simultaneously. My problem was that the built in 400 W inverter in my truck is not pure sine wave, which the Delta Max will not accept. I’ve decided to install a separate 500 W PSW inverter.

@DaphneLowe Год назад

FYI, Delta's inverter is pass through when it's plugged into AC power. Therefore you cannot use AC loads greater than the charging inverter (ie. 500W) can handle.

@cilupercio 10 месяцев назад

MC4 T branch connectors would have been way cheaper

@SnifferSock Год назад

2:16 that's one of my favorites movie lines of all time haha

@Jasonoid Год назад

Such a classic, there are so many great quotes from that movie: "Clever Girl", "Hold on to your Butts", "Dinosaurs eat men, women inherit the earth" LOL

@ericklein5097 Год назад

Shocked the 36V was so efficient!

@cjacobs0404 Год назад

Great Job!

@Jasonoid Год назад

Thanks for watching!

@sharimctiver8952 Год назад

Great content - I appreciate your thorough reviews & use demonstrations of these power stations. They're literally black boxes with I/O ports to those of us without electrical education & your videos bridge the gap between manufacturer info & practical use potential. Have you done (or can you do) a similar video using the Bluetti AC300? Would you modify the aviation connector and use the 120V input port, or would you connect to one set of the MC4 connectors? Would you use one of these boost chargers, or would you favor a DC-DC charger? I have a Victron DC-DC charger & thought that I'd use the MC4 connectors to the AC300, but I'm cautious about potentially damaging my Bluetti and/or my 220A alternator. Thanks again for excellent content!

@7eis 6 месяцев назад

I use an ecoflow as for my work van to recharge power tool batteries and run random smaller stuff. I charge it from a separate deep cycle that also runs some lights and is only charged from driving, once in a blue moon with an actual charger. The slow charging through the provided cigarette lighter plug is painful at 100ish watt. I solved this with a 12-220v inverter to change the ecoflow, but it seems stupid and is overly complicated to go from car 12v to deep cycle to 220v to ecoflow to 220v chargers to 18v batteries. One of these will simply things a lot, just put in an order. Thanks for the video, came here from your short

@adamtedder700 Год назад

Great video

@Jasonoid Год назад

Thanks, Adam!

@annymarie64 Год назад

Thanks!

@Jasonoid Год назад

Thank you so much for the donation! Much appreciated! 😊👍

@Electronzap Год назад

Good info.

@Moes_Prep_and_Tech Год назад

I was really looking forward to this Review after seeing the short video and Livestream, I'm looking forward towards the Bluetti AC180 next. I'm debating weather or not its the AC200p Replacement ( I know it has lower PV volts but the other things are nice)

@Jasonoid Год назад

Compare the AC180 to the Delta 2, it's almost identical. Key word is Almost haha

@Moes_Prep_and_Tech Год назад

@@Jasonoid I would have to admit......I am a fan of Bluetti, Not a fan of their customer service< I like Delta's App better but I hate their Fans, they are loud compared to the competition.

@Jasonoid Год назад

@@Moes_Prep_and_Tech I'm just saying the specs are identical (pretty much). Not saying either option is better or worse.

@baneverything5580 Год назад

A small USB fan is what I use to keep my chargers cool. Some of my Type C PD chargers and ones for my power stations get very hot which can`t be good but a small fan blowing on them makes a huge difference, keeps them cool to the touch, and will extend their useful life. These little fans only draw 2 to 5 watts depending on speed setting.

@Jasonoid Год назад

It's crazy what a little fan can do! I had it on the lowest setting which is around 1 watt of power.

@baneverything5580 Год назад

@@Jasonoid I just got a new USB fan that ran over 5 days from one of my 15 dollar "phone charger" type power banks...a new record. The power bank is heavy but I think it`s 2800 mAh. It also listed 98 wh in the specs.

@MyChannel-vm6dw Год назад

Jason with summer coming can you do the holy grail test about running a window Air Conditioner 24/7 using only solar to recharge batteries. Like show which power station, which batteries, which solar panels, etc. Plenty of us preppers got emergency sheds that could use your great presentation and explanations. Ty

@Jasonoid Год назад

The only thing is that I don't have a window ac unit and all my windows in my house open sideways, not vertically so it's not the best for hanging one.

@abrambearth6890 Год назад

DIY Solar with will prowse has some videos running cheep window a/c for cooling his solar for a shed he has playlist solar powered air conditioning

@dallasvanwyk Год назад

Good info! Still a deal-killer for me is that this takes up the solar input on most of these power stations, so you can’t simultaneously charge them from solar and the alternator. A few power stations have two higher-wattage DC inputs but that’s the exception rather than the rule.

@Jasonoid Год назад

Yeah, in that case it might be best to just charge from a 1500 to 2000 watt inverter connected to the battery, depending on how fast your power station charges from AC power.

@cilupercio 10 месяцев назад

I use a couple of MC4 T branch connectors when I want to add my little REDARC solar panel that's on my camper

@brettdalbeth2623 10 месяцев назад

@@cilupercioAre you connecting the solar and DC to DC in Parallel to you power stations input? I’m wanting to do this with my solar and the Victron 12-24 into my EB70S input.

@fromtheflightdeck252 9 месяцев назад

The Bluetti ac200max can have your solar going in through the a.c. port, with the charge enhancer D050S, and alternator going in through the pv port. AND vice versa, so you CAN do it with the Bluetti ac200max at least, it's very flexible in that regard.

@CraigG21 Год назад

Installed a 1000W Renogy ac inverter with 4 gauge wire in my vehicle. Charged my EcoFlow River 2 Max at 600W (adjusted max ac charging rate to 600W from EcoFlow app) as a test without any problems. Will be also charge my Delta Max the same way, and can adjust charging rate up or down based need or time on the road driving.

@Jasonoid Год назад

Sweet setup, lots of different ways to skin a cat and that option definitely works! 😁👍

@guitarnut5754 Год назад

What did you hook your Renogy ac inverter to as the power source?

@CraigG21 Год назад

@@guitarnut5754 the vehicle’s 12v battery. I only turn on the Renogy inverter when the vehicle is running.

@Mike-. Год назад

Hahah all those sweet power stations in the back of your truck! Nice flex! 😂

@Jasonoid Год назад

I need people to click on the video and watch it... Maybe it well help? LOL 😂

@1ENDUSER Год назад

Such a awsome video!!!

@Jasonoid Год назад

Thank you, it took a ton of work!

@1ENDUSER Год назад

@@Jasonoid- You & tuber Tinker Adventure made this video & usage of these converters, are the most informative ones by far with setp by step & other little info like cables etc. Not many do that. So thanks.

@Jasonoid Год назад

@@1ENDUSER I saw his video recently, it's a great one too.

@1ENDUSER Год назад

@@Jasonoid - btw would you choose the victron option or the option of the kisae dmt video you did? Trying to decide which is better value/options.

@Jasonoid Год назад

@@1ENDUSER this video is for charging power stations faster. The Kisae DTM1250 is for charging standalone batteries, two pretty different options. I like both options for powering my fridges on the go. On is more DIY and the other is 'off the shelf'.

@Mrloganfinlay 10 месяцев назад

Perfect information for storing battery power for later use while driving around. Decreases waste from fossil fuels and gives you more bang for your buck for each mpg.

@olivier.st-amand 4 месяца назад

Great video! Thanks. I'd really like your opinion on the Vtoman power stations. They seem to have great specs for a great price.

@Jasonoid 4 месяца назад

I havent reviewed one of those on the channel yet. They seem to be getting better and better.

@coreyhealth8523 Год назад

great video. I have pecron e600lfp. I bet the 36v converter will max out the solar input. thanks

@Jasonoid Год назад

Yeah, that will put quite a bit of charging into that little beast.

@jw3843 Год назад

Like the video, very interesting, I ran a wire from my car battery to the back and made a wire to connect to my trailer with 150 amp Anderson connectors for a dc to dc charger. All you have to do is run a big enough wire to your battery to where ever you are going to put the charger for it to work, right? No messing around with the alternator and I think probably not a great idea to wire directly to the alternator because the battery should give you cleaner or safer input power.

@Jasonoid Год назад

Correct, connect your wire run to the starter battery. The alternator will keep it charged up when you are pulling your load. No changes to the alternator needed.

@ItsEverythingElse Год назад

The more I see how much even cheap components cost the more I realize what a pretty good deal most commercial power stations like the Ecoflow River 2 Pro are.

@Jasonoid Год назад

Yeah, with everything built into one little compact box, it's sure awesome!

@fratermus5502 Год назад

the cheap way to do this would be chassis-> relay -> inverter -> power station's wall charger

@chadrogers3161 Год назад

Keep it cool!

@zodaguado6655 Год назад

Thank you

@RyaStream 5 месяцев назад

wow this is exactly what i need! my 400watt built in ford transit power inverter doesnt charge my anker solix 767 for some reason. and 120watts isnt enough while driving. i was going to try a 1000 watt inverter but this would be much better! thank you!

@Jasonoid 5 месяцев назад

The 400w inverter is probably a 'modified sine wave' inverter which puts out a rough sine wave. Most power stations won't charge from that type of inverter.

@RyaStream 5 месяцев назад

@@Jasonoid thank you thats very helpful!

@RadiationNetwork 2 месяца назад

Most vehicles alternators cannot put out 200-250 Amps! Small cars and compact vehicles: 60-80 amps, Mid-size and family sedans: 80-120 amps, Large sedans, SUVs, and light-duty trucks: 100-150 amps, Heavy-duty trucks and large diesel engines: 130-200 amps

@solardiyhobbyandrevies8118 Год назад

Good info I’ve been running a 12v fridge with a solar panel with a 24v to 12v step down converter with no battery so when nice and sunny I am not putting the wear and tear on the battery bank. Just think it is cool a fridge running totally off a solar panel.

@Jasonoid Год назад

I love running these 12v fridges while camping. Having a battery and solar panel setup can give you unlimited runtime, if the conditions are good :)

@LivingVanlife 11 месяцев назад

Finally someone made this video! Now all of our heads can stop spinning for this one issue keeping us from doing a plug n play system. Question….Would my already installed Renogy 20-40A DC-DC charger work? Any idea what the max Amp input is on that Bluetti plug?

@Jasonoid 11 месяцев назад

If you use a DC to DC charger it doesn't really give you higher voltage output. The key to faster charging is the higher volts. If you charge at 12v you'll see around 100 watts on your power station (that's what you'll see with the DC to DC charger as well since it's designed for charging a 12v battery). If you want more wattage you gotta get the volts higher like the DC to DC converters used in the video.

@thomas-marx 11 месяцев назад

Many thanks

@Jasonoid 11 месяцев назад

You're welcome

@thewilltejeda 5 месяцев назад

I'm going with a 400W AC inverter just because i remembered i have one stored away in a locker, but this DC to DC is very interesting.

@Jasonoid 5 месяцев назад

Going with a 400ac inverter is still a great option :)

@thewilltejeda 5 месяцев назад

@@Jasonoid what's interesting to me is that I could probably run 2 dc converters and get another big power bank 😅 They seems to always be on sale now. Even the 2kwh stuff is starting to become reasonably priced (for my budget)

@beedrew 11 месяцев назад

Great video! I wonder if you have looked at the Orion Tr Smart product? It is all a bit above my understanding, but I think that product has a way to shut off the charging when the engine is not running. Just a thought for a future video!

@Jasonoid 11 месяцев назад

I have had a few people mention that device. It would be useful so you don't run your battery down when the engine isn't running.

@ashleySmith82157 Год назад

Compared so these brands and finally chose Pecron E2000LFP, because in terms of features and value for money, it seems to be the best choice, FFPOWER can not be extended, AC200MAX and Ecoflow is too expensive, of course, E2000LFP does lack of Bluetooth control, but this for the 55-year-old me is not affected

@ronsanderson99 8 месяцев назад

This is an excellent video and exactly what I have been trying to find! I have a Bluetti AC200P that has the AC charger input socket and the 12/24 volt DC/solar input. Which input should I use for the DC boost converter?

@Jasonoid 8 месяцев назад

The solar input port would be the only one that functions with the boost converter.

@George-zi9jz 7 месяцев назад

great info.. I have a Bluetti ac200max with 400w solar in my skoolie. I want the ability to charge when off grid on a cloudy day. thanks

@Jasonoid 7 месяцев назад

These converters are da bomb for that! Enjoy!

@MrMike-fn4hi Год назад

Cool idea! A few things to be cautious of. Don't try this with a hybrid they have very small starting and charging systems. All newer vehicles monitor the alternator output and will set a service light if you over tax the charging system. The light will clear after 3 key cycles though so do not freak out just dial back the draw. Also, when pulling near max power from the alternator you should run another 4ga wire from the alternator to the battery and also add a second ground to the battery and to the alternator. If you are reasonable with the draw this is a great alternative to using a solar panel to charge the power station. Victron all the way, never had 1 issue with any of their products.

@Jasonoid Год назад

Great tips, Mr. Mike! I didn't think of the extra draw going through the grounding of the system. Makes sense for sure!

@franknabuurs3401 Год назад

So gents, I bought the ac200max to boondock with our 35' class a gasser. I'm assuming the alternator on the Triton V-10 engine would not have any troubles with the Victron. 2 questions from an electrical moron (Which is why I bought the ac200max!)1. I'd like to store the bluetti at the back of the rig, would running cables from the engine at the front about 30' back cause me any difficulties in this charging process. (lighter jack is at the front of course.) and 2, could you explain "running another 4ga wire from the battery to the alternator" and the 2 ground cables, ie what gage and specifically from where to where? I'd appreciate the help. Thanks

@davidcarrico3385 Год назад

Not sure about other hybrids, but the Jeep PHEV has an electric motor and dc-dc charger instead of an alternator.

@barryc3476 3 месяца назад

Great video as usual, Jason! Thank you. Wondering if you can help: The Delta Max 2 has 2 solar ports. Do I need to use two separate dc to dc converters to serve both or is there a single unit out there that would work? Also, do you think the stock alternator of 180 amps would handle two converters?

@ewanstevenson 8 месяцев назад

I've pretty much settled on an AC200MAX for a van build but was nervous about slow alternator charging - especially in the winter. This looks like a game changer, so thanks for that! 😊 I read that the Victron DC-DC converters can be connected in parallel. Is that likely to overload the alternator and, if not, would it actually double the charging rate? I think the bluetti van take 900W solar.

@Jasonoid 8 месяцев назад

The AC200max only has one charging input. The amperage limit is maxed out with one Victron, so I wouldn't recommend two of them. The only way to get more power would be to go higher with your voltage on the one port.

@sqservicersllc2552 Год назад

Great video!!! Been waiting for this one… question I have Delta Mini can I still use the Victron??

@Jasonoid Год назад

The Delta mini can take in 75 volts of DC power, up to 10 amps. It will Limit at 300 watts automatically. You can use the Victron on that model!

@sqservicersllc2552 Год назад

Thanks for responding

@rharnatkiewicz Год назад

Got to say that I had a problem with the ac200 max not reading battery percentage right, but Bluetti has been helpful, not sure if we have it fixed yet but it is nice to have customer service. Will try to update if I can.

@Jasonoid Год назад

Glad to hear they are helping you out. Usually cycling the power station at 500 watts will help fix that issue. Discharge the unit fully at a ~500 watt load till it's empty, then charge at a ~500 watt load till full. Do that a few times and it will calibrate the capacity shunt.

@fullsleevetats 2 месяца назад

There's a difference between the XT60 and XT60-I (with additional pin). That pin is key to negotiating the higher current.

@ashleypatton700 10 месяцев назад

Would be great to see how the additional draw changes any fuel economy of the vehicle, if at all.. 😎

@Jasonoid 10 месяцев назад

I didn't hear the engine RPM change too much while running these. Most alternators make peak power around 1800 RPM or idle

@EvenStar303 Месяц назад

You could remove the Voltage regulator from your Alternator to get near 250 Volts with up to 200 Amps. And use a Rectifier only and input that into the solar input of the Powerstation. Then your power station becomes the Voltage regulator at 48 volts. That would max out your solar inputs on all of them. And then use the 12 Volt output of the powerstation to charge your car Battery. Or you could even have 2 dedicated alternators. One to charge the 12 Volt Battery and the other to charge the Powerstation.

@JeffErdmann Год назад

Jason your video was very informative especially @15:26 because I have a Bluetti EB3A that I want to charge faster from my car. Through the cig-plug, I get between 12-86 watts and it always jumps around on that as well (must be an EB3A thing). Getting closer to the 200-watt max input seems great ~ double what I'm getting from the 12v cig-plug seems worth it. I am considering either the 10 or 15-amp model because the max input through the MPPT charge controller is 8.5 amps at 12-28vdc. Someone thought the 20 amp would run cooler because it was not working as hard do you agree?

@Jasonoid Год назад

Yeah, to get the best life span you'll want to get a larger DC converter so it runs at a 50% load instead of 100%. I'd recommend the larger option.

@estelinet 5 месяцев назад

Hi Jason, I passed your excellent video to an electrician to carry out an install to charge my Ecoflow Delta Max (old model) from my 12v van battery. He chose to use the Victron Orion Charger 12/24v 15A, because he recommended the way it can be adjusted to cut out for low voltage input, to protect my car battery. It seemed otherwise to have a spec comparable to the Victron you used, and it's set to output 30V. However, when i connect with the Ecoflow solar cable (and XT60i connector), it registers a charge of 400w plus (13A x 30v?) for a few moments then cuts out to zero, and carries on cycling in and out. The installer managed to make a stable charge once, but couldn't repeat it. He made up a regular xt60 cable and achieved a stable 250w (8A x 30v?), but that's a bit disappointing (the Ecoflow also said it would take 4 days to charge, which it didn't, of course). Any ideas what's going wrong, or how we could sort it?

@Jasonoid 5 месяцев назад

What happens if you turn down the Victron output voltage a little bit? Like instead of 30v, try 27v or 28v with the Xt60i. When it's turned all the way over to 30v, it might be working too hard.

@estelinet 5 месяцев назад

@@Jasonoid thanks Jason. I understand the installer tried that yesterday and it didn’t help. I’ll ask him tomorrow (and try myself). We’re also going to try making our own xt60i cable rather than the long ecoflow one.

@ZeroTimelineX 8 месяцев назад

Great info, thanks, this was a lot of work! This might be a dumb question but what are some options to prevent the boost converter from killing your car battery so it doesn't keep charging when the car is off?

@Jasonoid 8 месяцев назад

The Victron has a switch relay built in that can run off the ignition of your car. Other options will require you to disconnect them when the engine is not running.

@kdel45 Год назад

A lot of great information here. Thank you! I just wish someone would show how to physically connect the converter to your car battery, instead of saying, "okay, so this is hooked up to my battery with these wires...". I need more hand holding, lol, and I'm not sure how to get that information.

@Jasonoid Год назад

You could google "how to wire an inverter to your car battery". The converter will be very similar since it also just takes a main positive and negative wire connection.

@kdel45 Год назад

@@Jasonoid Yep. I'll check it out. Thanks!

@markmonroe7330 Год назад

Loved the video. Might be a good idea to point out that 20 amps at 36 volts is roughly 60 amps with 12 volts. Many people have trouble with the whole amp/volt/watt thing. 60 amps pulled from your vehicles 12 volt system is a *lot* (a hell of a lot). You will most definitely need special wiring, fuses and alternator considerations. If you are not running the car (no alternator) with that type of regulated converter, you can easily kill the average group 28 battery in less than an hour with that load. Just saying.

@Jasonoid Год назад

The only power station that pulled that type of power was the Anker 767... A full 700 watts (36v at 20amps). All the other power stations have 12 to 15 amp limits which cuts the power down to about 525 watts or so. I'm was pretty clear in the video about proper fuses, wire gauge, and also told people to check their alternator for it's rated power.

@markmonroe7330 Год назад

@@Jasonoid Understood and you did explain that aspect. That said, if someone gets a 20 amp 36 volt converter, the potential of a 60 amp 12 volt draw exits if other things besides your specific units are involved. The converter will pull 60amps if the draw requests it. Folks have trouble (including me) understanding what the "limiting factor" is. Sure a 20 amp 36 volt converter will only draw 10 amps if that is all that is requested, but if more is requested, it can go to 60amps/12volts. It can be hard to understand what caps the actual draw. You could have a 500amp/12volt converter but it would never draw more than 5 amps if that is all the devices request. If the devices all of a sudden want 500 amps then your system better be ready for it. Very confusing to understand what limits things. As an example, I use a higher rated converter (say 20 amps) under about half the actual load (load is 10 amps) just so that it will stay cool. I found that if I size the converter the same as the draw it gets too hot. I know the load wont go ever 10 amps so I am safe but if for some reason it did, I would have problems.

@Jasonoid Год назад

@@markmonroe7330 totally true, thanks for explaining what you meant. A '500 amp 12v converter' is basically a 12v lead acid battery, short circuit that thing and you'll have 500 amps real quick! Haha When dealing with electricity it's important to always be careful and use the proper safeties. Luckily power stations have over current protection built in so they "shouldn't" ever pull more power than that. I also agree with you that it's best to run these converters at a 50% load for a longer life and cooler operation.

@stevenjohn350 Год назад

@@Jasonoid well that was a very useful discussion. thankyou.

@realeyesrealizereallies6828 11 месяцев назад

Buying a 12 or 24 volt 100 AH LIPO battery and converter not only expands your solar generators capacity, but with the converter, it will not put unwanted stress on your vehicles battery and alternator..I would advise that method as opposed to charging by vehicle...And you can charge the stand alone battery with solar when the sun is shining from your solar generator, or at home with a charger, depending on your particular situation..There is real risk to your vehicle charging like that..In Quartzsite Arizona I've witnessed many RV fires and destroyed alternators from that very method, over the years..

@Jasonoid 11 месяцев назад

Sure, it can be a problem if you don't plan accordingly with the proper wire size and such. Running at a 50% load on the alternator should be fine. This is a backup charging solution of solar isn't available... I would always charge with solar first.

@nordic5490 11 месяцев назад

Overheating your alternator is a risk. Btw, I have 240AH LFP, plus 2x dcdc charge controllers charging the LFP @ 90A. The methods in this video should not overheat most alternators whilst driving. Do not heavily load your alternator whilst stationary with no airflow. One good strategy is to use a relay with a10min delay - this allows the alternator to mostly recharge the starting battery b4 charging your house LFP. You can also use a temperature triggered relay, to diconnect from your alternator if the alternator becomes too hot.

@Steveteras 7 месяцев назад

@@Jasonoidwhat does that mean running less than 50 %?

@hexd2g Год назад

Thanks Jason! Great video! Very detailed and good information. How does this compare to the Bluetti DC Charging Enhancer (D050S)? I have a Bluetti 200P and will like to have the option of charging slow or fast when needed. Thank you!

@Jasonoid Год назад

I have a couple videos on the D050S. The charging enhancer only works well if you have a high voltage input. It is pretty worthless at 12v input... you'll only see 100 watts charging. You get the same charging speed at 12v input directly from your car battery as you do with using the charging enhancer.

@hexd2g Год назад

Understood. So the DC charging enhancer would be better labeled as a step down converter for higher voltage applications (for example: multiple solar panels in series). I do have a 24v LiFePO. Would you recommend a 24v to 36v or 24v to charge the Bluetti 200P?

@Jasonoid Год назад

@@hexd2g yep, all that is correct. The 24v battery will put decent power into the Bluetti on its own. I'd try that and see how you like that, if you want more power pick up a 24v to 48v converter and you'll get even more power. The AC200P is good for up to 145v so 48v is just fine.

@hexd2g Год назад

@@Jasonoid Thanks Jason! I really appreciate your guidance. Look forward to your future videos.

@laserant Год назад

Excellent information buddy Exactly what I was looking for. I own 2 BLUETTIs Eb70s and Ac200p and like to expand capacity with a Battery. I like the Victron. Question. Will it work with my small generator’s input Voc 12-28. 8A ??? Thanks buddy

@Jasonoid Год назад

The Victron would be compatible with both of those devices, you'd just have to drop down the voltage a little to work with the EB70s. Nice flexibility with that one.

@laserant Год назад

Thanks buddy

@Golfreak Год назад

Awesome Video Jason. I assume that the wires were connected direct from your starter battery ?? What if you use your car cigarette socket ? Would you be limited to the 10a output ?

@Jasonoid Год назад

While using most 12v cig ports, you'll be limited to 120 watts (12v @ 10amps). They aren't meant for high power at all so you have to bypass all that and go directly to the starter battery for your high power needs.

@mrp55net Год назад

Superb video. My truck camping setup (WIP) includes a 40A DC DC Renogy charger, a Renogy 200ah LiFP Bluetooth battery, and a Bluetti AC200 Max station. I purchased the exact same 24v 20amp 12v step up convertor you did :) I also own the Bluetti D050s DC charging enhancer, so I should be able to charge the AC200 Max using a second step up converter from both AC200 Max charging ports. Both DC step up converters will draw power from the 200ah Renogy battery. Question - does Ecoflow sell the orange (special) XT60 charge cable separately, or does it only come with a Delta station?

@Jasonoid Год назад

The XT60i orange cables come with their solar panels and you can also purchase them separately on their website.

@Blztrls 4 месяца назад

I used the small 12>24V unit with my Delta 2 Max and it died after about 2 weeks of use. I replaced it with the Victron unit and it has been working fine for several months now. So I suggest avoiding the cheaper units if you want reliability.

@Jasonoid 4 месяца назад

The Victron is great! For anyone wanting to use a 12v to 24v converter, I'd suggest purchasing the 20 amp model or larger so it's only running at 50% load when running. It will last much longer. If you have a 5 or 10 amp model it's like running your car engine at full RPMs all the time, it's gunna die.

@Kantuski Год назад

Great video and timely as I have the EB3a and the new Renogy Phoenix 1000 to play with. A quick suggestion to mull over: Maybe mount the converter under the hood, in the airflow with shorter 4-6 AWG cables to the battery and run the 10 AWG output cables to the back with a DC breaker as a shutoff switch. That would save money as larger cable is expensive, airflow will help cool it and it is easier to run the smaller output cable that far.

@acutaboveww Год назад

My exact thought as well.

@Jasonoid Год назад

That might work well to keep it cool, maybe mount it somewhere near the main fan airflow. Thanks for the suggestion!