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Charging Off Grid Batteries With A Welder? (NO! There Is A Better Way!) 

Carlin Comm
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Hi, I'm Carlin.
Welcome to The Daily Ranch Rant Show!
Sometimes referred to as Ranch Rants - A Not Very Daily Video Broadcast.
I live off grid, and sometimes I have stuff to Rant about,
but usually not every day. When it happens, it'll be here!
I might lightly edit these, I'll try to keep them short... short ish?
I'll be dropping these randomly inbetween my normal video content.
What ever Normal means, right?
Anyway, let me know if you like these, maybe I'll make more of them.
And now, On with the Rant!
Thought Experiments lead to Solutions...
could that be an interesting video?
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This starts off as kind of a Thought Experiment.
Rather than actually hooking up wires to see what would happen,
we'll just start with an idea, and then think about it for a while,
maybe do some google searches,
calculations, and see if it seems practical.
I remember once my Dad saying something along the lines of...
Technically you could use a welder as a battery charger.
As a kid, all I could imagine is all the arcing and sparking,
I didn't comprehend the concept of power as volts and amps.
First, I found the welder owners manual for my MIG Welder.
Technical Specs
Power Supply 120V 20 Amps
No Load Voltage 69 Volts DC
Output Range 30-140 Amps DC
Duty Cycle 30% at 90 Amps
Ok that's interesting.
I couldn't hook it directly to a 12 volt battery,
but my MPPT charge controller can handle 100 volts and 30 amps DC
So in theory I could see a welder as a power supply
to charge the batteries.
For now, I think there is probably a better way.
But first, why do we want this?
I live off grid. That means I don't have power lines coming to my house.
I create my own power out here, mostly from Solar Panels.
I do sometimes use a generator, when I don't have enough solar.
Welding is the only time I use the generator now.
But sometimes if we get a few days of cloudy weather,
my batteries start to run down.
I now have 4 of the 100 amp hour lithium iron phosphate batteries now.
You'll see that sometimes abbreviated as LiFePO4
Li for Lithium Fe for Iron and PO for Phosphate.
If I'm looking to charge my batteries,
they'd probably be pretty low.
So lets say I'm starting from zero, so I'd need 400 amp hours.
Literally, if I needed 400 amp hours,
and I had a 15 amp battery charger,
we could divide 400 by 15 and see it would take 26.66 hours to fully charge.
Now, I'll probably be charging before we get to zero,
but the idea of running a generator for a full day isn't why I moved out here.
I like the quiet! I really hate generators.
I don't have a truck anymore,
so I'd have to ride my electric bike to town
about 24 miles round trip,
and then haul gas home on a bumpy road.
The generator can provide a lot of power,
so rather than running it for 24 hours,
what we need is a bigger battery charger.
Like, if we could do 100 amps, I could fully charge in 4 hours.
That's a lot more reasonable.
Well, I figure I get about 15 to 20 amps of charge from solar most days,
for about 6 hours of peak solar.
Since normally my batteries aren't dead,
I'm probably using about as much power as I'm generating.
If I generate 15 amps for 6 hours of solar, that's 90 amp hours.
So if I had one of the 100 amp hour batteries,
that would last a day.
By having 4 of the 100 amp hour batteries, I could run 2 or 3 days
and still be in good shape.
If I had a 100 amp hour charger,
I could add enough to the batteries in an hour
to run all day.
I have about 300 days of sun a year out here,
so since I upgraded to the Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries,
I've not needed to charge the batteries with the generator.
When I'm welding, I start the generator just to run the welder,
a minute or two later, I shut the generator off again,
until the next weld is ready.
So that gas lasts quite a while.
I think I found a pretty good option for a battery charger.
Prices are reasonable even.
I'll check into it and get back to you soon,
be sure to subscribe
and look for part 2 coming soon!
Thanks as always for all the support
and for watching the video to the very end,
it really does help!
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It seems that a lot of my life out here is just
in hacking things together to get them to work.
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Ranch Rants?
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Комментарии : 15   
@houstonfirefox
@houstonfirefox Год назад
Good explanation Carlin! I'll be bringing up four 95-watt panels to "Pump Up The Power!"
@JosephGodwin137
@JosephGodwin137 Год назад
Do you have the time scheduled yet 🤖 I have 150 LA hours of use or lose to burn this year 👩‍🦳💖😎 and 40 hours is allocated towards time away from the wife 🥾💘🥾
@CarlinComm
@CarlinComm Год назад
Cool! Thank you very much, I'll find a good home for them :)
@webbtrekker534
@webbtrekker534 Год назад
All makes sense to me once you explained it. Thanks.
@CarlinComm
@CarlinComm Год назад
I'd kind of missed the details myself, because I started of with 1 battery, a 4000 watt generator, and no solar. So I'd run the generator every day for an hour, when I was brewing coffee, I'd also charge the battery, and I'd run the deep freeze just for some cold drinks. As I grew, I just kept using the same battery charger. As I got solar, I used the generator less, but for a big load, while using the generator I'd also run the battery charger. So I'd not really looked much at the numbers until recently. I knew I needed a bigger charger.
@josephdupont
@josephdupont 8 месяцев назад
To calculate the amount of extra mirror area needed to keep a solar panel producing its rated output throughout the day in non-noon increments, we can make some simplifying assumptions and use a basic model. Let's assume we have a solar panel with a rated output of 1 kW/m² when exposed to direct sunlight at noon. We want to maintain this level of irradiance throughout the day, including during the early morning and late afternoon when the sunlight is less intense. If we consider the morning and late afternoon periods (let's say from 8 am to 9 am and from 4 pm to 5 pm, for example), the solar irradiance during these times might be around 200-400 W/m², depending on location, weather, and other factors. To compensate for the lower sunlight intensity during these times, we can use concentrating mirrors to increase the amount of sunlight reaching the solar panel. The amount of extra mirror area needed can be calculated based on the ratio of the solar irradiance at noon to the solar irradiance during the morning and late afternoon periods. For example, if the solar irradiance at noon is 1000 W/m² and the solar irradiance during the morning and late afternoon is 300 W/m², we would need to concentrate the sunlight by a factor of approximately 3.33. Assuming ideal concentrating mirrors, the extra mirror area needed would be proportional to this concentration factor. So, if the original solar panel area is A, the extra mirror area needed would be 2.33A (corresponding to 3.33A total, including the original panel area). This is a simplified calculation and doesn't take into account losses and inefficiencies in the concentrating system. In reality, additional factors such as mirror alignment, tracking, and losses due to reflection and heat dissipation would need to be considered to determine the exact amount of extra mirror area needed. It's also important to note that concentrating solar technologies are complex and require careful design and engineering to operate effectively, so professional expertise would be needed to implement such a system.
@CarlinComm
@CarlinComm 8 месяцев назад
Thankfully the price on panels is down so much lower, that we can just put up solar panels instead of mirrors.
@gwenlaursen6460
@gwenlaursen6460 Год назад
Thanks! You are good at explaining things! You sure must have gotten an interest in power things from your Dad, cause l like to flick the light switch without thinking about it!! Good video.
@CarlinComm
@CarlinComm Год назад
Thank you very much! You do remember I took all the toys apart right? I've always wondered what makes things work. Eventually I learned how to put them back together again!
@gwenlaursen6460
@gwenlaursen6460 Год назад
@@CarlinComm yes, you were always taking toys apart way back then. And that is how you learn. So good for you!
@johnnywadd7960
@johnnywadd7960 Год назад
Carlin, which of your videos show how to make the rear trike differential?
@CarlinComm
@CarlinComm Год назад
I've not actually made a differential yet. I'll try to find a link to Utah Trikes, you can buy one there, and they do a very generous job of showing how they did it. On mine, the electric motor drives the right wheel directly, and the pedaling goes across on a jack shaft supported by bearings, then back to the left wheel. Most of the videos didn't really show that in detail, because by the time it was mounted it was hard to see. I'll post the link to UT seperately.
@CarlinComm
@CarlinComm Год назад
Part 2 www.utahtrikes.com/PROD-11619758.html is the complete assembly www.utahtrikes.com/PROD-11619754.html axles and diff www.utahtrikes.com/PROD-11619751.html Just the Diff Between the 3 pages, you can see diagrams how its made, they designed it in house and apparently also do their own machining. There is a freewheel between the Diff and each axle, so when you're coasting, they could coast at different speeds, so you can turn. But when you pedal / power on, they'd tend to lock up, so they call it Posi. Pretty clever. Most of it you could build yourself but that central barrel part is how it all comes together. Hope that helps.
@JosephGodwin137
@JosephGodwin137 Год назад
@CarlinComm
@CarlinComm Год назад
Beep Beep :)
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