that mans remains belong to his ancestors not a brit museum he should be laid to rest make a copy of the mans skeletons remains then let his people bury him
Would love to see a facial reconstruction of this guy. I think it will bring him further into reality and portray him in a more human, lifelike way. Terrible story though, how you could stalk someone to their grave and then dismember their corpse. It is a shame because people definitely wouldn't have had a full understanding of this condition.
If that 8 foot tall girl had been in my high school I would have been the first in line to ask her to go to the prom. I hate it when people get picked on for what they look like or the clothes they're wearing. Like my wife says we might have old clothes but they're all clean and sewed if they need it.
Yes you would, but the average Joe in this world is not like you. That's why there's so much suffering n pain. You n your wife are Good People, the Salt of the Earth, and for that you shall reap your rewards in Heaven. God bless you, in Jesus's Holy Name, Amen.
What an incredibly moving documentary. Thank You for sharing! It was so hard to watch the oblivious “Tsk Tsk & For Shame” platitudes about how he came to be put on display, wherein I choke on an affronting offense that it is still just as shameful today, considering his explicit wishes for obscure burial rather than commodity carrion. I invest no personhood in the body vehicle once transcended. Was only briefly puzzled filling out legal documents of last medical wishes when coming across the question: “How would you like your body treated after you die?” - to which I formally dictated; “with kindness, but no great importance “.
Ronan-as an American whose father was born in Kerry, I thought hearing the "Irish" was part of what made this documentary authentic and very poignant. Well done!! I don't believe most Irish-Americans would mind it at all..Slainte!!
Thank you so much Chantal. Cormac O Grada the main historian in this documentary speaks Munster Irish, the dialect your ancestors would have spoken. Le gach dea-ghuí. Ronan
there is a new petition to get his bones returned to sea.... it needs 175 signatures to get to 500 can you sign please? www.change.org/p/richard-mckee-respect-the-dead-and-bury-charles-byrne-at-sea
@DaithiDublin thanks a million for your comments. I made the original documentary. I thought I might as well put it up online while there is a lot of media interest in Byrne. As it is over half in Irish it is more or less impossible to sell it on to other broadcasters. Best wishes Daithi...
PBS does a lot of Irish broadcasting all March and much fundraising too. Many Irish American's tune in religiously for years with great nostalgia. The irish enunciation was beautiful for a non irish speaking ear and that is an appealing point as well because the sounds could be heard between words rather than all melding together. This absolutely would appeal to an American audience. Irish and non Irish. I don't speak Irish my family does and this was the first time I actually was interested in hearing it spoke because of the clarity. Sometimes , I did not read subtitles at points because the listening of language was as enjoyable as the moving story . Their stories should be told and shared and the irish is a bonus.
@more peace thanks for your comments. Yes, I am not sure where that is...I wonder if you contacted some of the Clare Historical societies, if they could help you....best wishes, Ronan
John Hunter goes down as one of least favorite people in history. That’s saying A LOT. I think these people whose corpses have been displayed contrary to their known wishes, should now be buried. It’s unethical to display them. Always has been & will be. RIP
Good call, once any medical/anthropological necessity is complete the remains should be released from any idle scrutiny by the bored or curious. Maybe I didn't word that right, can you get the gist of what i'm saying?
Charles Byrne should be buried with great dignity. It is wholly disrespectful to still have his remains on display, if they are. Today we have modern methods that replicate the human skeletal frame. We, supposedly, advanced human beings of the modern age MUST respect this man's dying wish, else we continue to be in support of this gross heinous act of John Hunter.
There are certain rural areas called Gaeltacht where Irish is spoken on a daily basis by most people. They are mainly in remote areas in the west of Ireland. However there are Irish speakers across all of Ireland and it can commonly be heard in all the major cities. I did hear someone on tv say recently that there is no necessary connection between speaking Irish and being Irish. The language isn't defeated yet, there is a big resurgence of interest, but it has had a tough couple of centuries.
i recall reading about capt, James O Neil , the first real collector of irish music [although many jigs /reels airs were gan anim ] of the famed Capt, James O ,Neils collection of irish tunes , had started collecting around 1908 +- from New york City , that there were actually more "native "irish speakers in NY at that time than were in all of Ireland ! a sad remarkable reminder of the Penal Laws , yet failing ...due to the mass exodus westwards one of Europes oldest tongues to the "new world '
I agree and as a person of Irish decent now living in Ireland I think the government should make Irish Language corses free at every council office or other like they do in Catalunya & Spain.
Hilary mantel wrote a book about him. She changed the name to O Brien. Pituitary tumours are a dis ease. Causing many problems. He could have died from pituitary apoplexy for example. The Irish language is spoken in those areas known as Gaeltachts ; in the west , southwest ; northwest . A concerted effort is being made to encourage it in schools. Sin Fein are campaigning to have it reestablished as an official language in Northern Ireland , however they are having trouble dealing with those primitive bigots called the DUP . The surname I have is Gaelic. Ie “Fatchach” pronounced = fawhuk , can be translated as Giant.
The language will be preserved by scholars but it is not commonly spoken in Ireland today, and the younger generations don't speak it at all and have no interest in it. The Welsh language is far more commonly heard in Wales.
I am the current Irish giant. I'm same stats as Hulk Hogan. Great grams was full cherokee and I got the sasquatch gene . Been to both sides of the family reunions. My dad is 5'10" and the second largest male. I just saw a sea of heads... no one except me ... hold it theres a big guy... none married in to the family.and that was it. If course I was dating Senator McCains 6'3" blond to the waist nordic goddess personal aide. Her 3 brothers played with the Cardinals and I towered over these guys and they all gave her the food work thumbs up.. I met them at Dennys and almost immediately word was out the team was in the building... and whondidntheybrun up to first... I had to point them to the real heros and I just looked down at them all and everyone wanted to know the giant was happy about all this I put my hands on my hips and laughed a giant laugh and the party went on. So all my life I've done highly unusual things... I cleared a forest of sasquatch for president Carter. I was the diplomatic gunman guarding Kissinger and Chase as they flew into our little million acre preserve.. I'm 8 feet tall... with my hoss cartwright hat ... I was with a nasa group and we had anti grav as our spacelab experiment flew overhead... 1974... my neighbor Ralph George ....invented television with RCA... next up JPL-SETI Goldstone Labs inventor. Complete nasa earth station in my back yard. Mom was editor then nurse .. I have pictures standing next to her. I'm really big. So mom really liked this sheriff.. so I invited him to the big ORO.. he missed both barrels and with his snubnose I aced the quails eye downrange at 40 mph ..maybe 90 yards... he was the rangemaster and 1968 olympic shooter.. now i had a real reputation in a real cowboy town where half my class ate a bullet at the palace playing john wayne. But I had a good partner. Dutch made sure i rode with him on patrol.after that every chance.. I rode with Ringo on double O and the big green cattle company.. All these men were fully blooded professional killers... to a man. 52 employees and I wouldn't cross any of that crew. I rode with the best. I ride with Ringo. Gramps adopted that cowboy family and ip to the mansion for a chance to meet a real cowboy. After that I was star struck. Pretty much like Curley on the City Slicker movie. He held the record for most kills of anyone in history ww2 korea. The box clip Winchester 1905 would take out anything moving for a mile or two. If you think Tom Selleck was a good shot in Quigley.... well he had a few to lob out there and you would go down with one of em. He showed me where we bury the rustlers as I turned a teenager... this was a mighty serious business.. not a tv show... and mountain lions hunting you the minute you come into their area. Then there was the forest service and USGS ...outing the marines I surveyed Faine Cattle Co. It's now called Prescott Valley. Checking hunting licenses pulling out stuck cars chasing murderers through the Bradshaw's and i brought in a lost hiker at midnight while all were warming at Lynx Lake stores would stove.. I was going for the BAR and my first year law school I picked up a supreme court case... Hugh Hefner on the phone with a blank check happy days... all over 3 seeds in a college trailer. So my lawyer and I bought new cadillacs. I got a blue one and he the red 2 door 1974.... 512 cubic inch.. wow !. Moved up to walker... ghost town in the hills. My new neighbor... Anton Levay.. So my deep state crat family and the lodge blackballed me. Anti grav led to murder and men in black.. and they actually suspected me .. the leaker.. damage done when they learned our comrade cooked his own goose.. his father and my mother autopsied the boy. Murdered day off from U of A reactor.. His father... Col. Dr. Whitman Chief of Staff ft. Whipple. So my family has a dead presidential candidate. And my first 33 I am nephew to Senate Finance Chair Russel Long. Gramps is 32° lawyer for the Pennsylvania .. Ssets and liabilities. Golf's with Ike. His wife is Virginia Long.. She has given me the Holy 33° oil since birth. Fermented skatefish oil and a 10 minute beating with a switch.. to get circulation going and pop open that pineal gland. Masons have very unusual habits. You will probably never hear another story of what it takes to be a secret society presidential candidate. I was just big and everyone wanted me around .. I finally yogi'd up and self realized and learned who I was... Not the mold I was being poured into. The veil went up and I met the man behind the curtain and have no need of any more earthly initiations into blackmail groups of dynastic tyrannical controllers whom you cannot change.. having no effect on the president governor or even mayor I have sought to do something for the one and only person I can do anything for... me. I stuck to.my guns near half century now and pots legal. So I learned the secret of marijuana... bake it 300° six minutes and medicine. Good bye cancer. Good bye dialysis and infection... bud in the smoothie a month or two...good luck...
I am 6 feet 5, from about 14 years of age I started growing worst time of my life, all the stupid comments how’s the weather up there you’ll be a big boy when you grow up, I have heard them all, caused a lot of problems when I started going out socialising in pubs always someone wanting to fight me, so I can imagine anybody 7 foot plus terrible life they must have. Trying to get shoes clothing very difficult, and much more difficult it is being extra tall brings, I am old now I have Shrunk about 2 inches, it has been a horrible life ruined my life totally.
My partner is a bit taller then you but my dad and my brother are the same height as you and they are built like trees because they like being the biggest and tallest men in whatever room they walk in...I am barely up to their shoulders but its fine. My grandmother is also 6ft too she's awesome
@@anerdwithglasses7429 Hello how are you, when I was young in the 1950s and 60s there wasn’t many tall people as they are today, back then it was a rarity to see anyone of my height, and you were in them days quickly singled out for Mickey taking, these days as I’ve already said they seem to be a lot more taller people and overweight people and they seem to be excepted more than I was back then, anyway I realise there are a lot worse off people than me but I was just giving my opinion of my life which I look back on that’s a very bad time thanks for the reply😊
@@petemullen842 I am just sad you have had a rough time because of something you couldn't control. I always wanted to be big and tall I'm part islander but I'm so short in comparison to my own family. Im short and I've always hated that I am so small when I have always wanted to be tall like my dad and strong like my brother and my cousins. I have Islander cousins who are younger then me but they tower over me. My dad likes telling people I'm his big little kid 😏. Im the shortest of my siblings they are all tall men and women now and I'm just this short thing in photos I look like the kid when I'm the older one. I don't even come up to my grandmothers shoulder and my uncle picks me up just to give me a normal hug. If I could be tall I totally would
I some what envy tall people cos I hate being mistaken for the younger one or the kid when I'm a grown ass woman.. It's just my family is full of tall people and it's not fair. 😂✌️
My sympathy to these people. Robert Wadlow, as well as Byrne, was also born in the wrong century to receive the benefit of medical science. He would have exceeded 9ft had he lived longer.
Excellent documentary, and a very poignant story. Thanks for posting it! It's funny, but I had just been reading about the Hunterian museum last night in connection with dinosaur fossils. It was one of the first resting places for those giant bones, and now I find out that it was also the last resting place for the bones of a giant. Very serendipitous!
@BRENDANMAHERBOURKE Brendan, his name is Brian Mullen and he can be contacted through Radio Ulster in Derry. Yes, he has a great voice and is very nice to work with. Ádh mór.
My family live down the road as to where Charlie lived. You think sometimes that things can be put to right after so long. I would love to get his bones back to Drumullan and don't see any reason as to why not at least try in my liftetime!
That's why he took to the drink and requested his body be buried at sea . His fears were obviously well founded . The Byrne family has always chosen poor friends , betrayed by those we trusted .
Love listening to other languages I'm Welsh and it's strange how some things seem very familiar to me. I do wonder if you have the same different area of languages as we do different words for the same things for example. There's about 5 different words for gate lol
Very interesting documentary - However there is no captioning during the sections in which English is spoken so only the Gaelic/Erse sections can be understood by hearing impaired viewers. Captions when used should be consistent throughout all spoken dialogue to ensure accessibility
Robaire Beckwith hi there:) Re: you tube offers captions. the top right side of your ( phone) screen are three dots the menu rolls down and you can select captions. I hope that helps. If watching on a modern tv , captions are available as well.
He did what Andrea the giant did went to drinking to kill the pain the pain on his back & joints his whole body must have been out of this world I would think head aches must have been horrible his head was growing very sad
Back in 2010 I talked to Brendan Holland over the phone about Charles Byrne, and apparently the documentary was being done at the time because a representative of Mr. Holland reached out to me wanting to hear what I knew about Charles Byrne because a few years prior to this I did a write up about Byrne and how it was likely he was related to the Knipe brothers (7'2") and Patrick Cotter O'Brien (8'1"). Mr. Holland was a very pleasant man, though I don't think he was quite sold on my theory that the old legends (ie, Fomorians) follows the old axiom where there's smoke there's fire. It was/is my opinion that there was a race of people in ancient times who were larger than the norm, and they were dying out due to warfare and survival (ie, higher calorie needs) and this reality trickle down into the fairy tales of giants kidnapping women, pillaging villages, and cannibalism. Ultimately the race of people were absorbed by persons of average height, and this hereditary gene passed on over the centuries occasionally popping up seemingly at random when in truth it was waiting to be released. It's no coincidence that cases of gigantism occurs more often in the British Isles than anywhere else in the world. I suspect, retrospectively, when Ireland was a part of Doggerland this ancient race frequented the area only to come back after it was partially submerged. The fact that the DNA evidence suggested this gene goes back thousands of years, and that Mr Holland was indeed related to Charles Byrne, from my point of view validated my own theory. Anyways, despite my input I was never listed in the credits for the documentary, but that's okay 😊 I still have my memories with Mr Holland and that was pleasant enough. Furthermore, it's well beyond time for Mr Byrne to either be buried at sea as he requested or to be returned to Ireland to be buried in County Tyrone where he originated. It must also be noted that the American Giant Charles Freeman for many years stood right beside Charles Byrne in the glass case exhibit. Where Mr Freeman's body has gone is another mystery as he hasn't been on display for quite some time. Although I must say as a curiosity seeker it would be interesting to see if a facial reconstruction of Mr Byrne's face couldn't be done as well as a possible voice reconstruction. Jesus Christ Almighty God bless you all 😊
When she said that the evidence that his pituitary gland was enlarged was seen in the skull, he should asked for documented proof. There would not of been any is my guess.
My Grandmother and my dad and my youngest brother are all 6ft to 6.5ft tall and my uncle is almost 7ft tall. I am just about at their shoulders and how short I am has always funny to me. My own partner is over 6.5ft tall :'D
This is a well made story of a young Man and His Life and its sad end far from Home . And to Niamh that I would have danced all night with You and do You know that Allison Moyet could be Your Sister as You look so alike.
@@michealcahill4094 It should be the primary language - if you don't speak your language, you don't truly know who you are, and believe me, the Canadian and US governments and the churches tried their damnedest to stamp out the Indigenous languages and cultures over here.
They weren't sad or unhappy about being tall, but the condition is painful. The wrestler Andre The Giant suffered a lot of pain years before he died. You cant easily find clothes that fit, all furniture is too small. Everything has to be custom made for you and that always costs more. It's not too fun being a giant.
@@macbhloscaidh Based on his bones, Byrne was still growing taller at the time of his death. The acromegaly hadn’t set in at that point. How much maybe a few more inches.
So now that the DNA, science has shown that he does indeed have living relatives, can't they demand their families remains be turned over to his surviving family? This is already been established in the courts with native American.
@macbhloscaidh Oh right. The reason I ask is because I am trying to network to find a Gaeilgor Actor or two from the North and the narrator on that film had a great voice. Thanks for the reply.
Skaleywags, they didn't care about their friend. Leaving him alone in his momemt of need. Nobody understood his pain and hurt. Oops, dropped my hot dog 🌭
That surprises me. Can you not overdub it, or is that too expensive to do? You see it done a lot on Fíorscéal with all those Australian and German documentaries. It's a pity, because it was very well made. I especially loved the music too. Beautiful. Looking forward to the rap documentary. Any news on that, release-wise?
Sad that this poor mans body was treated with no dignity. Of course the same thing has been going on in the US for fifty years to aborted babies, no respect whatsoever, and even worse, their body parts are sold for profit. Now in the US there is a bill in some states, a bill sponsored by these killers for profit that if passed (Infanticide bill) that would allow for the killing of a baby up to 28 days after birth. These butchers aren't satisfied with the money they get for abortions, they now are after babies that are born so there are complete body parts to sell. Yes people, this is going on today, and the true horror is that the majority of the people vote for the party that not only accepts what is going on, but promote it and make the taxpayers pay for it. Charles Byrne was one body that was abused and disrespected, while 60 million unborn have been murdered, disrespected, dismembered, and sold for profit, and we dare call ourselves human.
Yet it is impressive that you can speak Gaelic I am part of the English speaking world and cannot enjoy this documentary . It looks like it would have a good one.
