That sort of people, like Koch, are narcisistic, self loving, scary people. It s ok if you have money, you can provide for employment and good deeds, but unfurtunately people with money go crazy. It s better to have less money and have good norms and values.
@@Yllawish Just because you have less money doesn't mean you have good values and are more humble. I have seen too many people who are poor and are selfish.
That quote was first mentioned in 1990 and popularized by Marvin Simkin, "Individual Rights", Los Angeles Times, 12 January. 1992. Copy that and put that in Google, see the original article for yourself. Do you hold Los Angeles Times on such a pedestal? That quote is by a man who favors dictatorship over freedom.
These are the guys that create think tanks that convince working class friends of mine that govt is bad and “the market” and private power is king. He is trying to launder his reputation.
This man has been messing with electoral politics and funding ALEC for 50 of his 82 years. His father did the same by building and funding the John Birch Society. Now he says he is sorry? The only thing he is sorry about is he did not crush every human rights struggle and destroy every union movement. If he is really sorry he should give away about 5 billion dollars. He needs to create a fund that will help working class Americans. Until he does that F him.
He's not sorry - he's doing PR to make him and his company look better. He comes out every few years and says he's sorry, or they were wrong - he's gaslighting.
He's talking about instituting a fixed percentage tax rate across all income levels. Sounds fair, right? Until you consider the fact that a 10% tax on the income of someone making $50,000 a year would require them to make a number of adjustments to an already constrained budget. Meanwhile, taking 10% of a millionaire's income (or even someone making $100,000) wouldn't impede their ability to live comfortably AT ALL. And he's claiming that he wouldn't benefit from a system like that?? Are you kidding me???!!!
Well, technically if you combine all of his other policy changes it would be easier to make a business so somehow the people who earn 50,000$ would be able to make more money. But that’s in theory.
People who make less than a 150000 get taxed to the hilt and have fewer options to get rebates than huge conglomerates that can go without paying any taxes granted based on the investment they make but the current system isn't as rosy as you'd think
This interview is such a crock. The interviewer gives stern faces and asks "tough questions," but then fails to really counter any of the weaksauce responses that Charles gives. Charles' strategy seems to be some combination of lampshading and gaslighting and the interviewer ultimately just kind of accepts them at face value. The end result is that all of these statements which are either bald-faced lies or displaying absurd cognitive dissonance, which would only take a modicum of effort to point out, just go without any kind of rebuttal. If anything, it's more of an advertisement. "What has been your return on investment? What have you gotten for it?" Seriously!? Is this all we expect of the media these days?
"its cronyism"..lol. I live in a liberal area and we fight for small business's and their success. The only time I've ever seen or heard of business's who have a problem coming to the area a huge companies like Home Depot and Costco. For good reason. Ever since they put in that stupid super Walmart in town a few years back this town has slowly dried up. Empty buildings all over town. Sad.
you would never believe anyone just because of their wealth. Be a bit more selective and less emotional bordering on jealousy. Not everyone has evil intention even when they personally have profited from good brainpower.
@Shubham Bhushan that's a typical tactic of the left. Demonize your opponent so you don't have to come up with an actual substantive argument. Way to be brainless and irrational. This is why your party is failing.
There are two damn books on the matter, kockland and dark money. You'll find all the arguments there. Now I were rational and enlightened I'd Read those books before shouting "No arguments"
@@ShubhamBhushanCC you still haven't offered anything compelling to support your original comment. For example, you surely know he was a classical liberal if you know anything about the man. Yet he comes under attack most often by liberals, unlike extreme left wingnut George Soros, who shares very little common ground with liberals, but is supported by those who only understand politics as right vs left. Mr. Koch lobbied against corporate welfare and funded many liberal causes and groups. There are many more than 2 sources of information about the man, and it's worthwhile to check the writer's bias before wasting your time on a book. You've told me nothing about Koch. Do you know any information about the authors whose books you claim to have read?
No, he doesn't, he wants a free market because a free market is more dynamic and you can make more money in it if you're a good businessman. In the current market you have to take advantage of the cronyism, tax breaks, protectionism etc to make money. This model supports bad businesses but is bad for good ones. He feels confident his is a good one, so he wants a free market to compete freely. Coincidentally, those same measures would help the average american have a better shot at becoming rich too. But he's in it for himself. You could've understood that if you had tried to listen to the interview. Perhaps you did, and you're just too stupid to understand it. But more likely is that you didn't even bother, because your envy and jealousy at someone who succeeded in ways you never will got the better of you.
@@muresandani Ah yes, the envy card. Do you envy the thief that steals your stuff? That's what people like Charles Koch are doing. They've created a system that you have no choice but to participate in yet when you do participate, you still get screwed. He and his dead brother have created a vast propaganda network that convinces average people that somehow, a system that strongly advantages the already rich with somehow benefit them too. Sounds like you've bought it.
@@jimlambrick3248 How exactly did anyone force you to participate in the "system" ? By not giving you your necessities for free so you can hang out all day and do nothing? And what system exactly do you mean? Civilization? Or are you one of those idiots who thinks the reason their life sucks is because of capitalism? Because let me tell you, as someone from a former socialist country, capitalism is by far the best system for structuring markets ever invented by mankind. The suffering my people endured under morons who thought capitalists were just greedy and business owners were not needed for businesses to succeed cannot be put into words. Unfortunately ignorant frustrated people on the internet, almost all from the US or the west in general, think capitalism is terrible even though they've never seen life in a non-capitalistic country. Dunning Kruger effect for ya'.
@@muresandani The system that we participate in requires that you prepare all your life for retirement by putting aside money in financial instruments that should at the very least, protect against inflation. Ideally, they should provide growth. People like Koch have gamed the system so that the average person can easily lose what they've invested. You sound like some kind of a libertarian jackass when you assume that my life sucks. Chances are very high that I've earned more money and have a better life that you ever will. Out of curiosity, what socialist country did you come from? And what kind of quick-buck business are you in now?
It's so weird to hear him talk like this. He's speaking like he has no idea he's at the heart of the problem that he's complaining about. How can he just think he's doing good?
Mental illness due to radical ideology. These people spend a lot of time justifying their own pathological greed and viewpoint. It's like fundamentalists who try to use science to justify biblical narrative. Also, denial.
It’s doublespeak. Disarming, isn’t it? You listen to it and the natural tone with which the lies are delivered makes you wonder if you’re the one that’s wrong. Like everything else this guy does, he’s a next level predator with it.
He seems to be a straight shooter with a sense of logic and ethics. His eyes don’t show darkness, but a sense of justice. To judge without knowing the full story I think is not a good idea. To judge from emotions or because a person read it somewhere isn’t quite it either. We can do better.
Snakes are like that. He refuses to pull Koch Industries from Russia over the Ukraine invasion. Too much money to be made. Dead civilians, meh. He will no doubt give 100s of millions to the GOP to make up for it though. And McConnell will be more than happy to take it.
That moment when you realize the people rigging the system also profit from lying to you about who is responsible for the injustice. There's a reason there's so much propaganda against him. Those billionaires who silently take part and say nothing are never attacked.
"You succeed by helping others improve their lives" 1. He proceeds from the false premise that everyone is playing on a level playing field. They're not.. people like him make sure that the field stays tilted in favor of the rich and influential. If he really believed this, he'd be donating to politicians who support public education, affordable healthcare, stop polluting the planet, and expanding social programs that help level the playing field for people who've gotten an raw deal from society and self-serving politicians looking to line their own pockets, and advance their own agendas. 2. If he really wants to improve people's lives, he'd spend his money on things that enrich others' lives, not his own.
@@JK-gu3tl I've done plenty of research about the Kochs, having first been made aware of them in one of Molly Ivins' books back during GW Bush administration, and more from many other books later. What the Koch's do is put their money in a foundation so they can legally fund things like art centers and hospital wings and then use the rest to funnel into politics as dark money. Their 'philanthropy' always winds up benefitting them politically in one way or another. Period. Don't tell me to do my research - it's already done and continues.
@@katepanthera7265 Do they offer board spots to retired politicians? Do they pay former presidents millions for boring speeches? Do they support wars that get kids killed?
@@JK-gu3tl No, they're just trying to destroy democracy and install an oligarchy - pouring billions of dollars over the past 30+ years into dark money groups, to ensure minority rule; they're heavily involved in funding so-called 'grassroots' groups that go around and gin up opposition to political candidates and ballot measures. They want to pay no taxes, receive any govt spending that's cut to go back to them, they are involved in funding voter suppression laws; they are parasites on the economy. So besides, that, yeah - I guess that's nowhere as bad as paying a former president to make a boring speech. They're a direct threat to democracy. www.salon.com/2013/10/26/dark_money_groups_linked_to_koch_brothers_pay_1_million_in_fines_partner/ movcac.com/the-koch-brothers-purveyors-of-dark-money/ ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-B6zSy5lAxd0.html
He says he want less government and less tax but in reality he want to tax his costumers who uses renewable energy. (He (his company) wanted to charge a $20 fee for houses with solar panels)
I unfortunately agree when he says its jot rigged by him. He is just one of the many people rigging the system for their benefit... is he the biggest mole sure but not the only mole
This guy sounds amazing but the problem with his 'anti-regulation, anti-big business' stance is that he heads up one of the wealthiest businesses on the planet which is actively writing anti-solar regulations. This guy talks a good game, but everything he does is the exact opposite. Solar energy, for example. The Koch brothers are trying to regulate the sun out of existence in Florida, 'the sunshine state'. Charles Koch is a con artist. He sounds like a nice old man helping to foster small businesses, but he's a vicious killer the most promising business on the planet, solar energy. The reason being is that solar energy and other renewables are inherently democratic and distributed (not to mention clean), while fossil fuel is centralized, dirty and inherently anti-democratic, enriching a few people while the rest of us pay.
theres free energy too. why not just come out and promote this clean and better technology? oh because its not profitable to you ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-VeXVsybEQPQ.html
He is evil and he is delusional. He literally thinks he is a visionary like Protestant reformer Martin Luther. That is the extent of his narcissistic personality disorder. If you read "Democracy in Chains," you will get the entire picture of what this man is all about. He is a true believer in James Buchananist notions of the economy, which means he is a crackpot and evil to the core. The biggest problem is he has obscene wealth that he has used to try and buy opinion.
Well, Solar Energy still uses lithium ion batteries which causes wasteful residue after long period of usage and the production of lithium batteries isn't doing good either for the environment, it isn't exactly as clean as what the media says but relative to oil and gas, it is a major improvement and a better alternative.
They know their industry, this lifestile, this level of wealth and inequality is unsustainable, this is the investment they make on american politics and pubblic opinion, to be some more time seemingly sustainable, they make it to not change this unsustainable status quo.
Well, then, stop giving politicians money to pass legislation. Paul Ryan Collected $500,000 In Koch Contributions Days After House Passed Tax Law (huffingtonpost)
jannmutube well that’s not true hahahahaha. Someone needs a lesson on political donations. 500,000 hahahahaha man if that’s not the funniest thing I’ve heard all week. The huffington post? Really?
Right the guy with a high school education is supposed to compete with the top 10 attorneys from Harvard. Because we would be going against his whole team. Thus guy is not an honest person.
He is hated without fundament. He is just another player in the system. Politicians are the real problem, they sell the favors, they exist for that. And, they don't produce anything of value.
I strongly believe that only a military government can make law and order in America. Look at this old guy who has billions of dollars .What is his contribution to the american society?????Is he happy with his life that is almost finished?????Would he acknowledge his mistakes so that other people can learn and do better?????Would he be 100% honest so that other people can learn from his life???????Or is it that he has not learned anything or that he is not honest.
@@notgiven3114 What are you talking about? He IS what "libertarianism" is all about because he and his brother David basically invented it by taking James Buchanan's nutball economic ideas and creating a movement with them. When you mention "libertarianism," you are talking Kochism. They are one and the same.
Valley of the Rogue are you dumb? Basically invented it? Ummmm have you ever heard of the founding fathers? Well clearly not, if you did you’d realize how dumb you just sounded. Off the charts dumb!
Well at least he admitted it. But still there are countless conservatives who say the exact opposite. Take it from one of the most successful corporate giants in the world. He says he is not responsible or to blame but at the same time puts millions of dollars into campaigns of people he supports. Obviously his biggest fear is that some one will be elected who will enforce environmental standards and not let them pollute the country without impunity.
Sounds like he's making the argument for goodies by saying, "we don't want anyone else to get a toothache, so we're just gonna take all this candy to save the rest of you from yourselves."
"To allow the market mechanism to be the sole director of the fate of human beings and their natural environment…would result in the demolition of society.” ~ Karl Polanyi, 1944 “In 1945 or 1950 if you had seriously proposed any of the ideas and policies in today’s standard neo-liberal toolkit, you would have been laughed off the stage or sent off to the insane asylum.” ~ Susan George, political scientist Do not confuse the economic - oikos nomia - the norms of running home and community with chrematistics - krema atos - the accumulation of money. ~ Aristotle
Q: there too much money in politics? A: No, there is too much politics! Exactly! Remove all of the unnecessary politics and regulations which make it very difficult for anyone who is not established to get ahead. Also, get the Federal Reserve to stop printing money which devalues the dollar and eats up the little remaining dollars that the average American has.
Government policy isn’t the problem, it just needs to be targeted in a way that prevents people like him from having unequal influence over the policy enacted. Back when unions and strict pro working class government policy ran the US things were great (1950s-1970s).
'it is hard to find in politics somebody with the courage to go against what's popular and do what they believe and help people and improve their lives" --- an unconscious Koch Brother feels the BERN!
if he wants to improve Americans people life, he needs to support universal/single payer medical system. without donors and big money big reform is impossible. The medical system in US failed to provide basic consumer protection and must be reformed. Well known problem: pre-existing conditions denial, bankruptcy of people/families who had medical insurance, problems with payment for out of network providers in emergencies, fine prints in contact, vague contract that only lawyers can understand, very low annual limit, service denial, etc. Add to above the highest prices in the world we are paying for services and medications.
He is a James Buchanan (the economist) cultist, and therefore he believes in NO government AT ALL outside of police and military because wealth equals "freedom." This means the "right" of the rich to step on the necks of everybody else and never let that foot off. Never mind what the cost to others. Not caring about others is the very definition of sociopathy, and Charles Koch has it by the truckload. He is not playing with a full deck and never has. His dad, Fred Koch, was a founder of the John Birch Society, and that explains much of why the brothers were and are so screwed up.
He's admitting that the system is rigged and it's people who need to be a speaker wheel. We need to be a loader voice. The government isn't setting the rules because they aren't being pressured to.
I hope he watches carefully as the whole world dances on his brothers' grave. I hope he comes to the realization that the world will be better when hes dead. I hope he cant sleep at night.... Tick tock tick tock
I understood the Libertarian perspective of The Koch's or Ron Paul but like most libertarians they are short sighted and ideological. The blind spot is that don't understand what all the forms of socialism really are. In general they believe it is either government control over the means of production like USSR. Or they believe it is FDR Keynesian economic models. Another model are cooperatives. Their are 29,000 cooperatives that are structured in different ways in every sector of the US economy. Not for profit Health Insurance cooperatives would increase quality and bring prices down. But in order for not-for-profit Health insurance cooperative to exist they would need capital to start up and need to develop a sustainable model. If you describe this model they may find it reasonable. If you tell them it's socialism they reject it. But it is the original socialist model. The other thing they don't seem to really understand is what the general welfare clause really means. They are right, Jefferson opposed big government control and objected to the way other politicians of his day interpreted "general welfare". But Jefferson also had a proposal that money from federal taxes should go towards building interstate highways (which he implemented) and should also go to education. But his ideas of education were specific he felt the money should be evenly distributed to the communities to educate their children. He also firmly believed in a rational enlightenment education. So Jefferson favored federal taxes to be evenly distributed to promote the general welfare, but would oppose government restrictive and dictatorial policies like "no child left behind". A Health cooperative could be subsidized by the government through individual grants per capita but then the government has no say in how the cooperative is run. The shareholders which are the people control that. The United States has the perfect governmental foundation to both increase citizen welfare and preserve the greatest liberties and freedoms. The left tend to underestimate government control and interventionism and the libertarians and the right tend to have two much faith in corporatism. But their are other models that actually empower citizens.
The co-operative model only works because it is voluntary. If you make it mandatory, you're basically forcing people to bear risk that they shouldn't necessarily have to. Also, I find that historically, family owned businesses are much better than co-ops (just look at Switzerland, they basically don't experience recessions at all).
@@FastlaneProductions1 What’s up with Americans claiming things that are commonplace in Europe “just don’t work in reality.” You do this with socialized healthcare too. Dishonesty… Find your bonafides
+Adasha Stewart Obviously you didn't watch the interview. He's advocating for getting rid of all the built-in advantages rich corporate entities have in order to level the playing field for people getting started.
If you actually read his book and did some independent research on Mr. Koch you'd actually learn a lot about him and who he actually is compared to what the media has told you about him. I don't see you complaining about George Soros
We would like to get all the money out (of politics) - Well, hmm - NYT - In 2012, the Kochs' network spent just under $400 million, an astonishing sum at the time. The $889 million spending goal for 2016 would put it on track to spend nearly as much as the campaigns of each party's presidential nominee. I guess I think Mr. Koch is full of bull. And me saying so is like pissing on a 5 alarm blaze.
Even tax? That's just old age getting to his head. Crazy talk....if there were an even tax bracket it'd either obliterate everything under the upper class, or if it was payable through all classes, wind end up not being enough for the government. Because of their insane military budget.
Like the way he thinks, he basically told us we can too can get “in” the money game but due to our positions its going take more time. Tax shelters help but limit your spending but they do cut your taxes in the long run. You just need enough to sustain plus proper placement of your money within these shelters. Its fiat until you can turn into it into a commodity or asset. However that doesn’t mean get a shelter, stack it then yank it to go get a freakin lambo. This game sucks but I like what he’s saying. He playing the game but at least he’s throwing free “nuggets” to us to get in too.
Rod96 respectfully, I think the conclusion is pretty silly; what takes more money from the poor, ‘maybe’ raising some prices that the rich was actually going to reinvest in their companies, or taxing the poor directly? With your assumption, raising taxes on the rich to supplement the poor and middle class gives the possibility of either providing money to the poor, or, in some rare scenario where the company actually needed to reinvest that money to keep prices low, doing at worst nothing because the supplementation of the poor balances out with higher prices of goods. Meanwhile, not raising taxes on the rich, and supplementing progressive taxes for higher taxes on the poor guarantees the worst case scenario for the poor where them getting higher purchasing power through ‘trickle-down’ is the exception and not the rule. Secondly, the assumption is entirely wrong anyway if you’re looking at the type of progressive system for say Eisenhower had in place, because any investment in production capital and business expansion was written off in taxes anyway, so this system guaranteed the lowest cost of goods and highest purchasing power for workers.
@@zekea7215 If the taxed money goes from being invested into a company and generating more wealth long term (to then benefit consumers) to someone with higher consumption spending then you are, in effect (at absolute best), transferring wealth from people in the future to people in the present, with a significant net reduction (due to reduction in investment). The fundamental basis for progressive taxation is misguided.
@@indigo3796 what about aggregate demand driving production as demonstrated by the failed demand in the Great Depression and other recessionary periods, and also in our current economy since share buybacks have been deregulated, most employers just reinvest all of their profits in buying shares rather than raising wages or investing in production capital. Since the collapse of Bretton woods, inflation adjusted median wages have had a net drop in the last 50 years, as well as minimum wages meanwhile the ‘GDP growth’ has been predominantly in business and financial services and financial derivatives, while manufacturing declines.
If anyone believes the loads of bull this user and abuser of society says, you brain is on backwards; seek immediate professional attention!!! This is an attempt by and evil rich person to change course publicly to make money off a change in societal direction..heartless!
Expert con man. Wealthy people want to rid themselves of expensive taxes and regulations in order to increase the size of their pocketbooks and they will tell you day is night if that is what it takes to make it happen. Take the money out of politics? He spends his money on politics because he wants politics out of his money.
Bullshit, he hires illegals because they are cheaper to employ and have welfare subsidizing their incomes. He deliberately profits off of the government taking money out of my pocket and putting it into the pocket of his Central American free range slaves. Didn't his chicken plant in Mississippi just get raided by Ice Andover 240 illegals were being employed by him?
He invented "libertarianism" along with his brother David. You can't talk about "libertarianism" and leave the Kochs out. They invented it using the nutjob economist James Buchanan's ideas of basically no government at all except for military and police. Buchanan in turn came up with his nutty ideas as a direct result of Brown v. Board of Education. It is all there in the book, "Democracy in Chains."
We've lost an angel who lived on earth. See how he opposed everything he was part of. I reach out with thoughts and prayers to his supporters of disturbed minds and assholes.
Mr. Koch, I respect people who provide for jobs and work hard themselves. I don t have a problem that hard working people have money. But....People who fire their employees, before retirement, pay them not enough and don t treat them well, ..discust me. Probably you still can look in the mirror, because most of CEO s, Top Politicians, presidents , suffer from a Narcistic disorder mental problem or socio pathic. which means that they can t be emphatic and that s mostly the reason they walk over dead body s to achieve what they want. No respect for you sir.
Charles de Ganahl Koch - as of March ranked as the 8th-richest person in the world with an estimated net worth of $50.5 billion - with extrordinary candor openly admits the U.S. political; economic, and financial syatems are rigged in favor of the wealthy, and not sustainable. While he and his brother, David Hamilton Koch - as of June 2018 ranked as the 11th-richest person in the world with an estimated net worth of $51 billion - and their privately held multinational mega-corporation Koch Industries, Inc. - in which each have 42% ownership - continue to extract unconscionable profits, in this interview he maintains he is fighting the system which benefits them. During the time he claims to have been opposing the system their business has tripled in size, clearly meaning that whatever they are doing is not changing the disparity between the wealthy and lower income workers and consumers. So either he is extremely naive - highly unlikely - or this interview is a cleverly contrived propaganda tool to distract the public from their complicity with a rotten system they do not control, but certainly continue to hypocritically and whole-heartedly participate in. .- facebook.com/AlwaysAwake/posts/10157018827519484
"It's corporate welfare", and we're going to keep people in government positions to make sure it stays that way. And for a better understanding of what I say but do not do, read my book, available at book stores for $29.95. We donate a lot of our money (for tax deduction purposes). Just out of curiosity I wonder what their employees earn.