In this video, I use Charts to represent some conceptions about the AFL. How good is Nick Daicos? Does Charlie Curnow get too many free kicks? Is Todd Goldstein the greatest Ruckman of all time?
One problem with the Coleman free kick chart is it doesn't consider the practice of tagging and how that role has changed in the last decade. Having a tagger on you whos role is specifically to sabotage your game in ways that wouldn't occur organically would skew these results. Especially since a tagger may deliberately give away free kicks if there is an overall advantage of throwing off a key player and these free kicks otherwise may have been score results or involvements in regular play.
@@Winks3 Not to mention every defender is afraid of Charlie in the pole position and grabbing at him. I can understand people saying some of his free kicks were soft but the vast majority there are jumper pulls and cutting of the arms.
To be fair, Daicos probably had more overall playing experience with AFL calibre players as hed been training with the Pies for yrs before they drafted him. Still an unbelievable talent but stating its more impressive that he did it without WAFL experience is debatable
Remember he is 3 years younger too, not just the lack of WAFL experience. He was a 17/18 year old playing against other 17/18 year olds......not a 21 year old playing against grown men........Daicos was essentially thrown in the deep end, whereas Kelly was already used to playing against grown men at a high level.......so I'd say Daicos' achievements are far more impressive.
@@SilentHotdog28 Nah man I think you've got it backwards haha sure on the weekend he was playing u19s but if he's playing match sims with AFL players during the week at training since he was roughly 15. Meaning he had gotten used to that size and skill for years before he was drafted at the size of a 15/16yo.
Hey I’m a big fan of ur channel. Especially ur graphs. For ur next vid can u translate Adam Zampas bowling stats into afl statistics showing where he would sit on the all time leaderboard🙏🙏🙏. If not I would love to see some more content.
Nick is just the latest player in a long line of players to get all the attention from the media and the AFL and it builds an aura around that player that almost elevates them above all others. Umpires just love to gobble him up like kids in a lolly shop and award him 2 or 3 Brownlow votes in games where some of his teammates were clearly better. He only has a name because of his heritage and the guernsey he's wearing. Like someone else mentioned earlier, if by some chance he was playing at another club instead of Collingwood, would he be getting the coverage that he is? Likely not. Don't geet me wrong. He's a great player to watch, with the way he moves through heavy traffic and handles the ball, but come on, talk about feeding the chickens...
Great vid mate! Just with the last chart, what does the x axis show? Obviously you were showing us how many hit outs each ruckman has, but they seemed almost sporadically placed along the x axis. Correct me if I missed it, but to me, the more suitable chart to show purely hit outs accumulated would’ve just been a plain column graph. Where I thought you might go with it was to show us hit outs plotted against disposals, or metres gained or some sort of metric to back up what you were saying about Goldstein being a pure ruckman and accumulating hit outs above all else. Again, loved the video, keen to see what else you put out
x axis for the last graph is just random. couldn't think of anything useful to put there, but disposals would have been great to show how pure a ruckman Goldstein was.
Love your content, but the maths nerd in me can't stand all these charts with non-zeroed (or unclear) axes. Just screams manipulative over-sensationalising. The stats here are impressive enough to not need that.
Great video mate. If you’re ever after some interesting AFL stats, reach out. I’ve been deep diving in to AFL stats for years and know of plenty one of a kind stats that go in a video like this well. 👍👍
@@kawreecoreyson5470 look up Travis Cloke’s contested marks statistics, especially during his 3 year prime 2010-2012. Gary Dempsey and Nick Riewoldt overall marking numbers. Lastly check who won the Premiership and Wooden Spoon in 1916. Let’s just say, that will never happen again!
That free kick graph is one of the most useless and misleading things I have ever seen. There is a reason Curnow and a lot of other power forwards get a lot of free kicks. Defenders can't stop him without infringing
@@shatogirl again, where was the hype for Josh? Or any other Collingwood father/son? Your argument is flawed, the kid is just a freakish talent and has been viewed that way since he was 15. In 2021 when he was only training with Collingwood Nathan Buckley said he wished he could’ve selected him, that’s how good he was even as a 17 year old. Also what father/son down at ST Kilda is doing what Nick does?
Nick Daicos has already had a stellar start to his career, as long as he doesn't get complacent, have too many injuries/have some really big ones.........or get too cocky, then he should be on his way to a legendary career. I am worried that he has started to go down the believe his own hype route as this year he is more "me me me" and less "do the team thing" + he hasn't been going in hard at the ball when situation calls for it, he has just fallen off and let opponents have their way, resulting in them scoring or have a scoring shot.........I wanna see him back to his unselfish best.
Daicos may be an amazing player, but the most memorable players are human highlight reels: usually forwards/mid-forwards who often take a lot of speccies, amazing goals, plays etc. The likes of Gary Ablett Snr, Tony Lockett and Nick's own dad Peter.
Memorable is great, but I'd rather a player be reliable like Pendlebury and Cameron Smith (NRL) than a player that has great games or terrible games with not much in the middle because at least with Pendlebury sure he isn't going to be blowing the roof off the joint, but he is consistent, reliable and a general around the ground. Pendlebury is one of the greatest players to ever play the game, but he is never really a standout......that's because the difference between his best and worst game, isn't really that big.
I’ve said it for nearly a decade that these blokes can’t defend without grabbing and holding anymore. It makes complete sense when you realise half of teams backline aren’t actually defenders. Half backs are attacking players now and even some CHB like lever or dare I say Darcy Moore would rather play without a man and sit in a hole.
You're joking right? Essendon winning the flag? Not much chance this year. Sydney and Giants are the teams to beat this year, very closely followed by Carlton.
He's a great player but this measure is not great. Wayne Carey is one of the best, if not arguably the best player of all time and never came close to a brownlow. There are many other great players that didn't poll as well as they ought. The human element inherent of this measure renders it something less than useful. Nonetheless, appreciate your effort and the other stats are interesting. BTW ... I wonder if player stats approximate a normal distribution. If so, the deviation analysis that comes off the back of that might be interesting.
I somewhat agree with your point, but mate.......Nick Daicos is clearly a generational talent.......he may flop, there's no guarentee that he ends his career as an AFL legend/greatest of all time........but he has started exceptionally well.....I don't care what anyone says.
How about yearly possessions for top players versus years in the game, to see whether there is a sweet spot. Or mark heat maps, to see how tactics changed over the years.
