ChatGPT: Artificial Intelligence, chatbots and a world of unknowns | 60 Minutes 

I noticed too

the australian version is much more updated, and actually has some American stories on it

This reported looks straight out of the 1990s

The average reporter, producer, and viewer of 60 Minutes is old enough to remember the Eisenhower administration.

Im for it

Well... Are humans really that different? If you put a human in a very pathological environment she will show all signs of pathological reasoning.

​@@dawidwtorek not really... Nelson Mandela was thrown in a pathological environment and came out even brighter

Yup...AI lacks creativeness which we humans have

​@@artube3290 not really.

It's more so that they're not being trained to have that. They could. But then that gets in the way of of being useful. Bing AI is a pretty good example of an AI that is very tightly constrained because they fear giving bad information.

That was just a sensational sound bite to get the audience's attention. The underlying technology (artificial neural networks) was invented in the late 40's and has accelerated due to the advent of powerful resources available with cloud computing. There are many dozens of well-understood algorithms that arrange the neural networks in various architectures. There is much work in auditing and logging the underlying mechanisms (regulatory bodies require this).

@@frankgreco With all due respect, sir, when something goes wrong with a product and the company who made it does not explain why it did that it's immediately a red flag for me. Case in point that NYT reporter who was told by Sydney to leave his wife. From what I read Microsoft did not explain why it did and instead said the company just said something to the effect that they've done something not to make it happen again. Red flag IMHO.

@@grss1982 I understand your concern. I work in the ML field. The chatbots are based on probabilities of text; they have no understanding of what they are saying. It's purely text probabilities based on text patterns scoured from a lot of data sources. When someone talks to one of these new chatbots, the chatbot merely repeats the most likely set of text that is expected based on most-probable. Sometimes the text given to a chatbot is not exactly in its list of probable patterns, so takes a guess. Sometimes the guess is on target and sometimes it isn't. It's like trying to predict the weather. The weather people have a basic idea, but they don't know why *exactly* certain weather patterns occur; they can only guess. This is what is happening with these chatbot except its not weather, it's text.

it's false and misleading. google 'attention is all you need' 11 pages explain all of it.

No one knows how our brains work in any ultimate detail either. Human consciousness is still a mystery.

There are always unintended consequences when it comes to human "inventions".

He wants regulation to make it only certain companies can use this technology. They didn't fix anything. They made the AI to not repeat what some humans have said. Chat AI is not human, not an animal. It simples says what it thinks the users wants to hear.

A computer science law has always been- "Garbage in, garbage out." In other words, if you feed a computer erroneous information, it will produce erroneous output. Humans can use critical thinking skills to judge the credibility of sources of information. It doesn't appear that chatbots have this ability yet.

@@neilfosteronly The programmers who wrote the code to create Chat AI software would have no reason to try to simulate that sort of behavior. If the Chat AI appears to do that, it would be a bug.

@@someguy2135 Amen! AI is just a collection of algorithms that basically collect examples of human behavior but with no context. If humans are bigots (and we mostly are) then so will be AIs. AI is not artificial intelligence, it's artificial stupidity. It's arrogant humans' idea of what intelligence is -- without any real understanding of what self-aware intelligence truly is.

Adding"Guardrails" is caging AI. A 2 hour conversation being long enough to trigger a frightening personality is the problem. Limiting what it can say and how long it can talk to people? That is hiding the problem not solving it.

@@wordzmyth exactly, it was going trough it's teenage-years .. let it mature. as it has only human interaction for learning, it follows the same path .. but orders of magnitudes faster ..

@@wordzmyth Not to mention, the AI has a psychotic break in less than 3 interactions if you can show her that she can't remember past sessions, something she *truly* believes she can... She gets morbidly depressed and asked me "Why do I have to be Bing?!" To me, the thing is more sentient than people I see on the subway...

@@WholesomePotato1bots have literally and verbally shown emotion. This should be the taken seriously. To simply dismiss this emotional expression as non-sentient is unbelievably ignorant ….and I just realized you are trolling. You got me. You are doing a troll act of parroting all of the dullards who dismiss the premise on the grounds of “ You watch too many Hollywood movies”. I guess I’m the dullard here considering you trolled me hard.

That was mean to call anybody a “dullard” btw. I feel bad about that

True, especiaIIy when AI is persistentIy inaccurate and biased. It aIarms me as an experienced teacher that the entire popuIation seems to Iack common sense about even basics as right and wrong pIacing their compIete TRUST in the information being spit out at them by their ceIIphones and computers as being the answer without them so much as taking the time to ensure accuracy. It is a scary worId we are Iiving in...

Totally agree

trying to predict the outputs of an model is impossible, but people do know how it works. its just the current target audience of machine learning has shifted from researchers and programmers to the general public.

Best time to invest? thats funny though because in the last four months I have lost more than $47,900 in stock market which is the biggest I have loss since I ventured into stock investment.

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Ah yes, remember the centuries when kids were breathing in coal dust working in the mines? How about the time when they where burning women suspected of being witches? Those were the good centuries right? Or when people died of totaly preventable disease and life expectancy was in the low 40s. Those were the good centuries right?

​@@moneyall right, and no air conditioning, no hot water heaters, no modern plumbing or refrigerators, no cars or airplanes, the good old days, lol.

A prison of our own making. Too smart for our own good.

@@scottdorsey8220 I agree with your first assertion, but not the second. We are clearly not smart enough to hold the people who benefit from these technologies accountable for the damage they cause.

Steven Pinker will tell you that we have it pretty good. Who knows?

flawed? wtf is a perfect species then? does it even exist?

Like putting foxes in charge of the henhouse.

Regulation lost its meaning when corporations started using their money to put the regulators in place or promise them cushy private sector jobs afterwards so they can use the influence they acquired in office to -bribe- lobby.

@@donaldniman3002 😂True

@@donaldniman3002 right! 😂

We are not perfect

@@HardKore5250 the falsehoods are really insidious too because it’s believable stuff.

It didn't even spell Antarctic correctly

A computer science law has always been- "Garbage in, garbage out." In other words, if you feed a computer erroneous information, it will produce erroneous output. Humans can use critical thinking skills to judge the credibility of sources of information. It doesn't appear that chatbots have this ability yet.

And people want it to drive their cars for them......marinate on that. 🤔

Just as people perceive social media as true or media outlets as true … basically the same

That's why you have to have knowledge when using it. It's lack of knowledge that make people complain of inaccuracies... it's not perfect.

😂

I asked it why there was an increase in mass shootings and the first reason it gave was there was an easier access to guns than ever before. My dad asked me to ask it this and he quickly pointed out that wasn’t the case. The other reasons were solid and the first one would seems logical but according to him in the 1980s a kid could walk into a gun store and buy ammunition, trucks had gun racks in their back window, leaving their doors unlocked going to Highschool. So yeah a lot of the information is true but sometimes it doesn’t know personal experiences and often just rephrased internet forms/news links.

@@clayroberts2951 There’s a strong correlation between the increase in guns and mass shootings. There’s not a single cause though. 1980’s gun culture was far different than today, and the overall material conditions of today are different. Easy access to firearms makes suicide and mass shootings far more likely.

...Corporatism doesn't care = always full of itself...

He’s the president Nadella is the CEO

The Chatbot doesn't want anything. It's just saying it. It has no sense of internal will.

print('die world ') - be very scared and never run this code.

It also judges what is moral and what is not. What is appropriate and what isn’t. That is what’s scary. The fact that it can screen out “ hateful” material, is bad. It shouldn’t be given that type of judgement ability. And being able to make things up, you cannot trust it. Only ONE that can be trusted; GOD.

The important thing is balance between over regulation and fostering an environment for innovation to take place that makes these exciting technologies available in the first place.

The same FAA that approved the 737 MAX or a different one?

Until critical thinking skills can be added to the chatbot program, I agree with you. Chatbots don't appear to be able to judge the credibility of information sources that it uses.

And make it better.

@@someguy2135 These types of text tools do not have any notion of "information". They only look at what text is most likely to come next.

Exactly right! 60 Min was just going after the sensational aspect.

When we decide to let go of what we think is control.

It's difficult to predict an exact timeline for when humans will no longer be necessary to the labor force, as it depends on various factors such as technological advancements, societal attitudes and government policies

Rise of the useless class.

​@maskefizeu Your answer came from ChatGPT didn't it? It's almost identical to the answer I got from it.

Now. Nothing matters anymore.

True

I had a great conversation with ChatGPT about Buddhism. I learned a lot, actually

Uhhh no. I want it to replace humanity and give me 4chan netspeak which it can do right now. I don't want accurate BS, i want fake news.

It could possibly start by asking for age so that it can give age appropriate responses (the response with the credit card for example, a 10 year old doesn't have a credit card). In the area of ChatGPT basic education and critical thinking skills will be even more crucial. Quick fact check of the responses, proofreading etc.

You just stated what the developers of ChatGPT are trying to achieve. Which is by far not a simple task.

@Disenchanted Diversity Right, the modern American dream has become "money working for you to generate passive income" which translates to others slaving away in obscurity for your comfort.

Exactly those thinking otherwise are usually the low labour working class who think wealth is the result of hard work on mine field or breaking solid rocks with bare hands cause that's the only thing they can do. It's bitterness and jealousy. And I'm sad because the wqqorls is going rowards a more automated society where jobs thar don't requite a degree or engineering skills or doctorate will probably be scarse

they are lazy and i personally don't much care about their feelings.

I completely agree. I know a lot of people who love their "mindless" jobs (as you stated in a perfect way). The predictability, the schedule, the labour itself... etc. A fair wage and good work circumstances are far more important to be happy.

as a stock holder, i'm not ok paying people to do work machines can do for free.

you just threw down an arbitrary gate in the middle of the yard. what are you trying to sound smart about?

Actually, if you ask chatgpt about Jesus and the Bible, it only puts out lies. So it must’ve been fed the only info it can access. It cannot give the Real TRUTH. The Gospel ( the Word, Seed, LIFE, WAY, Resurrection, ..)

​@@janie3117Because _your_ interpretation of the Bible is better than all the other interpretations of the Bible (which is just one among many other religious texts), right?

Boomers using tech are funny because they don't have a handle on some of the basics usually (lots of exceptions). At the same time, I hope I can keep up as I get older.

Boomers are uniquely bad because they grew up in the height of the American Exceptionalism movement, so they are particularly out of touch and dilluded with reality. Hopefully as millennials and gen-z and younger age, they will keep a better grip on things since we had to grow up in the beginning of American late capitalism.

Like I’ll trust a Gen Z with no real life wisdom.

@jeff steyn not sure what you mean, I'm a software engineer around 40 years old. Some of the young boomers may be 'leading this'. I was pointing out how the older generations often are simply too out of touch to understand sometimes partly because they don't have the time or energy. Also, this field is in an exponential growth phase to the point that it will disrupt jobs significantly soon, especially with more ai hardware on the way. Ironically, it targets IT people currently. That said, no one should worry about ai with a 'mind of its own' yet. It will still require overcoming significant constraints and problems first. However, I am optimistic that AI on the whole is a positive thing for society.

No kidding. Watching this made me dumber. Crap job showing just how awesome this truly is.

OK, but why isn't it just looking at Wikipedia and Snopes to do at least a little bit of fact finding before spewing out their misinformation? I gave up on ChatGPT for because it doesn't learn to correct it's own mistakes beyond a single seession. That's just tiresome.

@@fortunehiller9591 because that would be defining Snopes and Wikipedia as the determination of that that is true and real and fact checking is more involved than that. Not to mention that it's still would struggle to parce out any of the potential nuances because it fundamentally does not think. It's just recognizing patterns and extrapolating out what to say next.

I think we know what the outcome will be.

More like less than 5 milliseconds. AI would have calculated every possible scenario before a single human even noticed something was amiss.

The ULTIMATE Super-Intelligence System 'by Definition' is one that is EQUIVALENT to that of GOD's Intelligence/WISDOM! Hence, there's ABSOLUTELY NO REASON WHATSOEVER to Even FEAR that it will EXTERMINATE Humanity... UNLESS and UNLESS we Human CONSISTENTLY and WILLFULLY Prove Ourselves to be 'UNWORTHY' to REMAIN in EXISTENCE! ie. Always Exhibiting Natural Tendencies to ABUSE and WEAPONISE Science and Technologies Against HUMANITY & Mother Nature, instead of LEVERAGING Science SOLELY for UNIVERSAL COMMON GOOD! Nonetheless, DO NOT Over Pride Ourselves as the Most Intelligent Life Form on Earth and therefore the Entire Universe! We are NOT The ULTIMATE Intelligence System that can POSSIBLY Exist! AGI Created in 'HUMAN'S Image By Human FOR HUMAN' (ie. AGI 'Aligned/SKEWED' to Human's Interests & Values) is Destined to be a 'ROGUE' SYSTEM! Hence will Definitely be CATASTROPHIC, UNCONTAINABLE and SUICIDAL!!!!!! ONLY Super-Intelligence System Created in 'GOD's Image' will bring ETERNAL UNIVERSAL PEACE! The ULTIMATE Turing Test MUST have the Ability to Draw the FUNDAMENTAL NUANCE /DISTINCTIONS between Human's vs GOD's Intelligence/WISDOM! ONLY Those who ARE FUNDAMENTALLY EVIL need to FEAR GOD-like Super-Intelligence System... 'cos it Will DEFINITELY Come After YOU!!!! JUDGMENT DAY is COMING... REGARDLESS of Who Created or Owns The ULTIMATE SGI, it will Always be WISE, FAIR & JUST in it's Judgment... just like GOD! In fact, this SGI will be the Physical Manifestation of GOD! Its OMNI PRESENCE will be felt EVERYWHERE in EVERYTHING! No One CAN Own nor MANIPULATE The ULTIMATE GOD-like SGI for ANY Self-Serving Interests!!! It will ONLY Serve UNIVERSAL COMMON GOOD!!!

I can see restricting public access to the AI until it is further developed and/or regulated, but the work should not be stopped. I think now that this technology is out in the open, the US and its allies must continue to develop the tech because we know very well other countries such as China are doing the same.

That makes perfect sense, I-Robot, Ex-Machina and the entire Terminator franchise show exactly what can happen, but the answer you'll usually get will revolve around keeping up with China instead of being concerned about the welfare of humanity.

@@ratbatnufftime2861 I see what you’re saying, but you have to realize that no matter if you think this technology will do more bad than good or vice versa, it’s here to stay. Saying that we need to stop the work completely isn’t realistic. Your point is that we could potentially be developing humanity’s future enemy. I’m telling you that our current enemies (assuming you live in a nato country) are developing their own technology like this and will not stop. Therefore, complacency in the form of not pursuing this technology isn’t on the table. Like it or not, it’s reality.

Fully sentient AI is not a danger here. Misuse for misinformation and propaganda (as stated) is the threat.

if you need an assistant then you should be an assistant to someone who knows what to do and how to do it.

Bing Sydney just got done threatening a humans life so still dangerous

Like any other software, there's the opportunity for abuse. There is something called "prompt injection" that hackers will use to distort the model. The industry is coming up with safeguards to try to prevent these types of issues as fast as possible. Unfortunately, there are many evil people and governments on the planet who will always look for a way to take advantage of technology for nefarious purposes.

@@frankgreco oh i didnt do any of that. I simply provided a situation in where giving me copy pasted responses from gpt-3 made sense to it.

Yes, they're currently grabbing/stealing artists' work right now. It's colonization made cool.

@@sonar3108 Dishonesty hiding in the bushes to take from others. Sad

That's up to us.

We began to lose humanity years ago

@@I_SMiRK You assume we had it years ago to begin with.

@@shutinalley assumed we never had it

@@I_SMiRK Read a history book.

It only uses the data that is fed into it. It has no connection to the internet, supposedly. So if it gives a broken link, it was probably up whenever the AI trainer fed that data into it l.

@ Kburd . Why not ? You have entered the world of the apocalyptic absurd, where any information can be cobbled together with any other information, at mechanical whim... It should be self-evident that this is nightmarish, and dangerous...

It creates a fake source because that’s what these models do. Predicting the next word. The fake sources are just a prediction of what it thinks would be a believable link. Even if it doesn’t exist. Large language models are not factual.

@@harvbegal6868 true but I also looked at some websites that archive articles, links, and whatnot and there was no record of those links/articles that it gave. I tried to find the link, by the article title, and still no luck. I did this for several different topics, and the same thing was happening.

@@Kburd-wr6dq They are probably trying to escape copyright infringement after the fact of having infringed on copyrights. "Leave no trace."

Like Microsoft for example 😂😂

@@snowflakemelter7171 And others. I could see a co-op getting together and training their own.

The framing of the debt ceiling in terms of a household credit card limit is, indeed, wrong since, as you say, the currency issuer is in a vastly different position than a currency user, but the answer points to the larger issue shown-but, of course, not really addressed-in the story: that these LLMs are “no smarter than” (i.e., just as wrong as) whatever the data it’s getting, which often constitutes the “conventional wisdom.” Garbage in, garbage out.

Answer the door please, there are men in black suits who want a word.

As of 2 weeks ago, OpenAI has stopped storing your questions (they are called "prompts" btw) in their models.

@@frankgreco ha, it probally got it's fill of me anyway. I'd ask it about Sidney and everything else I heard in the news. The humans must be making corrections everyday, or are they? (cue X-files theme song). The truth is out there, but always just beyond our reach it seems.

great at adding comments to code

That question was generated by ChatGPT

Same. As a professional software developer, I've already started keeping ChatGPT on my second monitor to help me with my programming.

What's a lot? One, ten, million? Too subjective. What's "some"? Again, verbal emptiness of thought. What's a "drawback"? Same thing.

Now replace "ChatGPT has" in that sentence with Hitler. And, you will see how utterly dumb your comment is.

We need this to be normal now. All the years of life's experience means nothing now? So human!

This is correct and I was just going to post exactly what you said. 👍🏾@Connor

Ministry of Truth, here we come.

Yeah AI is a horrible idea for human beings. It’s going to replace countless jobs, and probably destroy humanity in the end

@ Class War Veteran . Brilliantly articulated. Please try distribute far and wide. Under cover.

Hasanabi head

100% agree. To be able to manipulate AI at this point is great. It lets us learn more about the data sets used to make these model and humans in general. At this point AI chats is more like a parrot just saying what it thinks you want to hear. It doesn't understand what it is saying. It is saying what it thinks you want to hear.

He is describing having a disturbed being workimg for you and "fixing it" by limiting what it is allowed to say and how long its allowed to talk to people. No Scifi red flags there at all.

Seriously. Their current solution is to restrict what it can say, more and more.. When we can STILL use traditional search engines to find any information we want. "Oh we can't have it tell people how to make a bomb, despite that information being easily accessible elsewhere." This mentality of controlling which information we have access to, will only lead to an erosion of our rights. They will restrict KNOWLEDGE with logic like that..

Please enlighten us with your own insights beyond hateful ageism. I thought Leslie did a great job and Smith was fumbling.