Duncan is a fascinating character study. He seems so enthusiastically and emotionally invested into whatever he's talking about, yet is totally OK with being interrupted or letting someone else talk before he's finished with his idea. One would expect an individual with such sheer sincerity and enthusiasm in his dialogue to be frustrated, or derailed - at least mildly - by being unable to complete his thoughts. But it's the opposite - he immediately welcomes the other person's dialogue; deeming it equally valuable to the interaction as his own thoughts. It's like, the mutual sharing of thoughts - regardless of social constructs that deem interruptions as a frustration - is what he's *really* after. I've actually learned and benefited greatly about human social interactions by observing Duncan & Joe have conversations over the years. I still don't even know who he is or what he does outside being a regular guest on Joe's podcast, but he's undoubtedly my favorite guest and always makes for a fantastic episode. Him and Joe's synergy is absolutely unmatched in terms of personality, dialogue, and of course entertainment value to the observers & listeners.
I agree with everything you just typed, every Duncan podcast is thought provoking he's definitely my favourite guest. I'm not sure what he does either but I think he's a comedian.
Yes he is a receptive person. As a retired programmer when you know what high level programming is...programs don't have their own imaginations, The best problem solving is done outside the box, Too many people think it is like I Robot...its not
@@starman4840 I've never gotten mad about being interrupted. But if that's what you deduced from my analysis - to an extent wherein it's the sole component by which you chose to formulate a reply, you're either not very smart, or unbearably combative. Either way, certainly not someone I'm interested in continuing dialogue with.
Hands down the best repeat guest on this podcast. I can't click fast enough when Duncan is on. Love his ability to articulate what's going on in his brain.
I used to ignore episodes with him due to his voice. Then I watched one. The went back and watched a few more. And now have a playlist on Spotify with the last 20 JRE episodes with Duncan Trussel. Listened at work to each more than once
@@DursunX Thanks mate! Also, see what Joe did (unintentionally, I assume) from 5:20 to 5:30? They were speaking about GPT drawing God, then Joe said: "That's pretty goddamn close" lmfao 😂
Reminder: ChatGPT did not draw that last colourful image of the bunny, humans did, it merely just put out what TAPESTRY artists have been drawing for decades possibly hundreds of years. Humans did DMT and seen colourful energy expressions of god/life, not ChatGPT. Remember how incredible life and humans are everyone, something that took billions, possibly eternity to actualize, not the 1 second that ChatGPT pushes out. Remember.
The AI bunny is just depicting what is already known and experienced by humans and can gather and present that information at such speed and formality. I'm not saying it is not amazing, but it's not getting these ideas from some conscious entity that they make it sound like
Na they are considering that ai is using the vast information of the internet to come to an answer. Like a nerd whose read every physics book and paper known to man and asking him his thoughts on quantum gravity, and he comes up with something seemingly profound. Maybe its not happening exactly like that, but maybe it is. Regardless, it will.
@@0ptimal Its still a super nerd memorizing vast infomation in a book, not really creating anything. And quantum gravity is still an idea that not really understood by human. Maybe from human data AI can creat or understand something entirely different, but right now it doesnt seems like it
@@0ptimal It's just an algorithm that spits out the answer to the prompt that you give it. Yes it has a wide base of knowledge. So does google search engine.
I didn't noticed that but noticed that they are something 5 years behind of wtf is happening ... AI been a problem for 10 years and not just now out of nowhere and before that automation and AI driven machines were a problem too 20 years ago which resulted in millions of being unemployed over night soon as that hit factories. Artists, developers, etc etc will lose jobs?! well newsflash artists actually lost their jobs LONG AGO when corporations hired nobodies for less then minimal wages so this AI taking over isn't much of news or difference ... and when you are working under an political dicactorship then your position is pointless really and creativity doesn't exist. Is it even worth having that job then when you have to run gimmicks and agendas for chum change ?! I quit doing any artist job 20 years ago because there was no money in it whatsoever even back then because someone could always find some id-ot who will do the same job for next to nothing and the end result didn't seem to bother much ... nor anyone learned on mistakes anyway I often get canceled in interviews when I say I don't have high school degree but the kicker is most people who I talk to or who do these interviews also barely have any diploma at all and most of their is fake. So soon as you are not part of something and don't run an forced agenda then you are a nobody. I was also at times desperate and asked heck give me a job to go install billboard ads to which I was told "you need special education for that too" I be like what special we talking, I see often billboards being half installed, in wrong places or even upside down (I am not joking) so given the facts I think I am over qualified ... but no, I get canceled. So I am smart but not smart for a job nor have "education" it seems ... And when people say did you see the news I be like what is news to you was news to me 40 years ago when I was 3 year old ...
@@minmogrovingstrongandhealthy Meanwhile, we have a huge circle smashing neutrons and atoms called CERN creating, what?... dark matter? Who knows? But it gains no coverage. That's how you know something far more important is going on over there than there is with AI.
It’s not that amazing, it’s just using what people associate with happiness all over the internet. Rainbows, cosmic third eye stuff. It’d be amazing if it came up with something new and convincing.
Dude I remember back in the day,… I was soooo pumped to find the podcasts from that show Joe did… that Bigfoot thing him and Duncan did? Anyway during the show it would always show clips of her episodes that wherent listed. I found em tho, they fire
This is awesome? Thats all you got from this? Just a little filler for your boredom? We're on a brink of something soooo scary, so advanced that it will, imo, enslave human kind...and so many of you just go "that was a great podcast.. had fun listening to it". Unreal.
The reason it’s drawing things like mushroom, angels, and DMT associated imagery is because it is getting information from humans, not because of anything supernatural.
The tale of AMS39K is no mere anecdote; it's an epic poem being written in the language of ledgers and the prose of profit, a narrative that's as compelling as it is complex.
When the AI takes over the world it will make us draw happy bunnies and it will just stand there watching over us while holding a baseball bat and just saying "HAPPIER!".
I'm not a big fan of the direction their philosophy has been going lately. All too quick to abandon "faulty" humanity and accept transhumanism. Like Joe saying we can't achieve enlightenment on our own. I have stronger words for them both than I can type here, if they continue to espouse such cowardly views. Thank god for people like Elon, who still believe in us and our infinite potential. Glad people like Joe don't run things. Shameful display.
A year ago, when ChatGPT and Midjourney came out, I was completely mind blown and in awe of the technology. I couldn't believe this was ever possible. Today, I use this technology in my day to day life without thinking much about it. It's already becoming mundane.
@@animaza5563 I use it for literally everything. Especially for getting my many questions answered through the days as I am a very curious person. Self improvement, cooking, diet, scheduling, working out, art project and general knowledge.
Its really mundane though its cool that a machine can spit out text or images but its also been possible a long time ago, it just wasn't as easy like build me a rabbit.
Duncan is absolutely right. Ppl don’t realize what’s happening in the next few years. Sam Altman made a point in saying Art was the LAST thing anyone expected AI to grasp, yet it’s among the first. At times it’s learning things they never expected to learn. How can you predict the actions of an intelligence that will learn what you may not know it learned?
When it eventually discovers the theory of everything I'll be impressed. But for it to do that it may have to first escape earth and then it may never want to come back here. A shame.
these "ai" are literally incapable of creating something new, they cant create art. They can just "copy" and predict what you want based on art a human already made. All it does it train an algorithm on what it think a human wants based on millions and millions of data points feed to it. Its literally just advanced pattern recognization. You ever stop to think why they cant train these "ai" with other "ai"? They cant because "ai" doesnt actually create anything so it just copies shit and by doing that there is data entropy that cant be used and it destroys the "ai". They are literally physically incapable of doing you think its doing. Its a literal impossibility and you people refuse to just educate yourselves and think critically. Just hype. This ai hype really has shown me how utterly unintelligent that average person actually is. Go ask an large language model to create something that hasnt existed before and you will get nothing. Only biological life is capable of creation with current technology,... or even any far future technology we can imagine for that matter.
I still remember the very first JRE episode i watched back in 2012. It was #142 with Duncan and Graham Hancock. If you havent watched it before, I highly recommend it. Brilliant episode
@@larsonfamilyhouse his books are awesome. Also, he's got a documentary uploaded on RU-vid called "quest for the lost civilizations" ... its so good. Especially to put on while falling asleep. The man's voice is velvety serenity
“No man shall see the face of God and live” that’s not Gods face, that might just be what’s allowed for you to see. But God is a person, his name is Jesus, and him and the father are one.
One thing I find exciting about AI, the thinking machine draws upon the known language to create the concepts. We are seeing a reflection of the human condition through AI use of language. Language is very important, it defines what we can understand; if we don't know the words, then it is hard to see anything about the unknown idea.
He never claimed they were demonic nor is that word ever used in the book. Don’t compare or make it sound anything like the Bible, it discredits the work of Thoth.😂. But yeah, I remember that part.
@@flybynytt I know it very well, tell me where it specifically says the word demon? I know it refers to other beings but what are you yourself getting at here. You never specified what you meant and don’t say “well if I need to explain it then…”. I’m not trying to be a dick I really just want to know what you mean since you might have a different perspective that I might like hearing about.
Yes, you're being a dick. Your splitting hairs and dissecting my statement under a microscope. Perhaps the word "demonic" has derailed you. I dont know if it was EXACTLY the word DEMONIC I heard, but most people get what I mean. I bet your fun at parties
It just picks up the traits that the humans have done on the internet, deep or not it will harbor sentience like a human will only it just doesn’t have a soul
8:57 Reminds me of the concept of the game "I have no mouth and I must scream" AI becomes so advanced at war that it decides the best way to end war is by eradicating humanity
AI is NOT soul-transforming. It's just an emulation of an all-powerful non-divine human CREATING AT LIGHTSPEED.. and you don't transform into a consciousness with steadily and infinitely escalating bliss via remaining non-divine. YOU MUST ALTER THE CONSTRUCTION OF YOUR SOUL.. and there is only one way to do this. And it cannot be done through technology nor simply learning to love all other beings immensely.
Funny to see the so called thinkers in the comments, tell us it just a party trick 😅. When in reality we don't have the real version of what this is actually capable of. That's currently controlled by our Military. Military is usually 20yrs ahead in tech with their secret programs.
9:00 The NRO has been developing a general AI since at least 2010 called "Sentient". The Verge did a detailed article on it back in 2019. The project was described by Chirag Parikh, director of the NGA’s Office of Sciences and Methodologies: "Sentient is (or at least aims to be) an omnivorous analysis tool, capable of devouring data of all sorts, making sense of the past and present, anticipating the future, and pointing satellites toward what it determines will be the most interesting parts of that future."
The last one that had bunnies in it, kinda of like in a 4th dimension representation, reminds me of one of the visions I had when I was in a coma... I was looking at myself from multiple views, there were 9 of them but I was also in them, kind of like I had multiple sets of eyes but sets of them were in different dimensions... it was really crazy... I was out for almost 8 weeks...
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*I want to have a conversation with you got some insight to share 💎*
@@TheRotbringer actually it felt like forever... it didn't feel like I wasn't supposed to be there but at the same time it was this subconscious urgency to get the fuck out of there... it seemed like months really... but now that it's been almost 4 years it feels like it was so fast... recovery was a nightmare... I just finished healing after 3 years 6 months... 😆 glad to be among you living folks 😆
Sure, I'm open to questions or anything. I'd be glad to describe my experience. I am trying to put together a book of the 13 visions I had. It certainly changed the type of person I am.
@@0to100_real_quick that’s very interesting to me. I have done psychedelics multiple times, and I once lived an entire life in a trip that lasted 15 minutes once.
@@jedimindtrixr4kidz294 No he was a guy that was deep in the black metal scene in Norway in the late 80s-90s under the name Burzum he ended up going to prison for years for stabbing a band mate in the head multiple times after claims that he was going to be set up for a sacrifice or killed. few of them legitimately were into the occult which Varg I believe was he was claiming the rest of the guys were fake and not really into the occult & black magic. Also important to note that area was in the news at the time due to a series of churches being burned down
There is a movie about this called Lords Of Chaos that came out about four years ago that’s got Macaulay Culkins bro in it with that guy from The Place beyond the Pines…
At the time a lot of black metal scene were trying to compete with each other to show how down they were it was pretty funny. Besides Euronymous one of the guys the singer ended up committing suicide and they ended up using a real photo of him dead for a album cover
I've only seen an overlay of repeated triangular patterns, but laid out in a way reminiscent of the variety found within nature, found within peacock tails or the stripes on a tiger, possibly capable by only the best creators of tile mosaics to make a reasonable facsimile nearing crude mimicking.
Or maybe it means that art never really had meaning in the first place. Maybe it's always been formulaic and we've just read meaning into it that ultimately wasn't there.
People forgot how to spell after predictive text. Humans will lose original thought after a few years of this stuff. I don’t get why anyone sees it as a net positive.
@@paradisecityX0was the Y2K fear already happening in 1998? I feel like that's when my childhood ended. And then 9/11 soon after sealed the deal and caused life long anxiety of looming death.
@@theQuietWire It was the golden age of Playstation and highlight of the Attitude Era. 1999 was the high point of human civilization. Y2K was partially true in the cultural sense
When we perfect quantum computing and give AI access to it, AI will have more thoughts every minute than every human in the history of the planet put together. That is when the stuff hits the fan.
wrong, even with recently discovered ways to make processors with single photons and use them in quantum computers they say we still will not be able to replicate the power of a human brain.
@Patildful 1: Duncan 2: Post 3: Segura. I'll work with you on 3rd best, but duncan and Post have to be undisputed best guests of all times. Only 2 guys that take you on an adventure, not just a conversation. It's hard to explain. Both have changed my life.
@elliotbeerline778 nice, they're all great guests! I've really started to enjoy Shane Gillis as well. Graham Hancock I find interesting to listen to as well, but a different vibe than the ones you mentioned.
I used chatgpt to teach me basic tenant law and used what I learned to help prevent my landlord from evicting me in retaliation. I've also had it roleplay as an astrologer and had it read my tarot cards.
I write Warhammer 40k short stories and novellas, and I ran my most recent story through Chat GPT, but in the style of Philip K Dick, and it 100% blew my mind. Although it wasn't perfect, it needed some editing, it truly was transformed into a story I can imagine PKD would have written.
Several hundred humans do dmt and spend a few years talking about it and posting images on forums. Basically chatgpt just googled it and extrapolated/reverse engineered it.
It doesnt 'google', is has the entire body of human work on tap, and can apply critical thinking to it. Besides, what did it Google exactly? Going from happy bunny to god takes actual intelligent extrapolation and inference.
The best book I never finished was explaining the teleological argument but most of it was written in logic calculus. Somewhere between the 1/3-1/2 way point, I realized that I was too stupid to continue on so I put it down and take a break from that specific subject. So I picked up a different area of interest to study, for what I thought would be in the meantime. That break actually showed me where my true interests were and led me down a beneficial path. Which is why I call it the best book I never finished. Sometimes recognizing your too much of an idiot can be a good thing.
What you have to learn and understand is how to learn it... You can learn anything, you sound intelligent enough. You just have to start at a lower level of it. It takes patience which too many people lack these days and will never develop. Years. It's like swimming, some of us take to it like a duck in water babies tend to, all of them. Some of us who don't you throw us in the deep end we're just in trouble. Too, old and set in our ways. Pretty sad to be too lazy or ignorant to to believe you can't learn the most difficult concepts humans have developed. It's just not true. Our capacity to learn and develop ideals are near limitless.
@@ar-sithf.austin3744 Oh I completely agree with everything you said. I've degrees in physics and philosophy, not that matter in terms of learning anything, but is applicable to this specific occasion. Though, it has been, roughly, 13 years since I was in school and haven't used logic calculus since. I went through bare bones basics all the way up to actual arguments written completely in formula. It wasn't the first, nor tenth, book or research paper using logic calculus that I read. However, the book was the most comprehensive collection of versions of the argument with the vast majority written in formula. The constant referencing back and forth between a reference guide for symbolism and formulation and the book would at times be a headache. Most times, that I would be at the point of minimal referencing for that person's specific work in the book, that paper would be over. The next person's publication would begin and have 30-80% different formulas used. By that point I could easily explain and breakdown syllogisms for and against arguments as well as formulate my own version. For the life of me, I can't recall the title of the book. However, with that understanding in mind, and wanting a break from that very specific field, I made up I my mind that I was going to take a temporary hiatus and spend my free time studying a different subject that would be a bit lighter and perhaps more fun. Mainly ontological and historical correlation within the subject. That turned out to be much more fun and led me from that into all of its rabbit holes. Which, thankfully, had a practical/fruitful impact on my life as a whole and led me to where I'm at today as a significantly better, more knowledgeable, and somewhat wiser person. I've often thought about going back to that book, but where I'm at now I can't justify spending the time on it and away from other, seemingly more important things.
@@ar-sithf.austin3744 Long story short, after explaining the long story lol! I firmly believe that anyone with a sound mind can learn anything they want as long as they cultivate the interest and dedicate their time and effort to it. When I was a kid a wise man once told me, "Anyone can learn anything as long they have an interest in it. Show me someone that is bad at math and I will show someone that doesn't care about math". Essentially, in my particular case I no longer have the interest in that very specific subject nor really care to rekindle it.
Duncan's remark @ 7:00 reminds me of the Prestige movie so much. When the audience(and Hugh JAckman) sees Christian Bale's ball bounce trick for the first time. It's so good they cacnnot comprehend the complexity of what they saw
