Cheap 32-bit 3D Printer Controller!

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Finally, we can purchase affordable 32-bit controllers for our 3D Printers!
In this video I show configuring the board with Marlin 2.0 for my HyperCube 3D Printer.
A very special thank you to my Patrons:
►www.patreon.com/Tech2C
Marlin 2.0 and Visual Studio Code download:
►marlinfw.org/meta/download/
►code.visualstudio.com/Download
Download the HyperCube 3D Printer/CNC from Thingiverse:
►www.thingiverse.com/thing:1752766
Download the SKR mount from Thingiverse:
►www.thingiverse.com/thing:2084725
BIGTREETECH SKR v1.3 32-bit Controller:
►www.banggood.com/BIGTREETECH-SKR-V1_3-Control-Board-32-Bit-ARM-CPU-32bit-Mainboard-Smoothieboard-For-3D-Printer-Parts-Reprap-p-1476462.html?p=9X051049165582016063
JST-XH Connector kit:
►www.banggood.com/40-Set-JST-2_5mm-XH-2P-3P-4Pin-Header-Male-Female-Pitch-Crimp-Terminal-Housing-Wire-Connector-p-1376209.html?p=9X051049165582016063
TMC2209 Stepper Motor Driver Stick:
►www.banggood.com/TMC2209-V2_0-Stepper-Motor-Driver-Super-Silent-Stepsticks-Mute-Driver-Board-256-Microsteps-For-3D-Printer-Parts-p-1512787.html?p=9X051049165582016063
Buy cheap 3D Printer kits and parts from Banggood:
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@bigtreetech5117 5 лет назад

Dear,thanks for your review and thanks for your suggestion!we got it.

@erick2will 5 лет назад

Don't wanna bump it but since you probably have this info promptly, I wonder, is it suitable to 2 Z axis?

@samuelgonzalez7783 5 лет назад

@@erick2will Well depending on you stepper drivers you could use a Motor Parallel Module for that. Supply enough current and you should be good.

@TalpaDK 5 лет назад

Also thank you for making the board semi open hardware: github.com/bigtreetech , sure does put you higher up on my wish list :)

@erick2will 5 лет назад

@Ali Thanks for the reply, I just think that is better to have 01 driver for each sustained side.

@NorthGaSawyer 5 лет назад

PLEASE change the servo connection back to a standard servo pinout!

@mcflapper7591 5 лет назад

oh, I've been waiting for this one already! Thank you!

@AntonMikhaylov 5 лет назад

Thank you very much for this review! Just purchased same board to upgrade what once was an Anet A8.

@andyfairman7812 5 лет назад

Awesome tutorial Tech2C, as always! Thanks for taking the time to share your expertise!

@Tech2C 5 лет назад

Cheers!

@billysgeo 5 лет назад

Awesome video! Detailed and informative! A lifesaver!

@medienmond 5 лет назад

Thank You for the HyperCube! I have build the Evolution with a duet3d. I could Not be happier with this system. Greetings from Germany.

@ajmckay2 4 года назад

The Hypercube I built in 2017 has been doing just fine, however, I decided I wanted to swap out the stepper drivers for some quieter ones. Opted for the SKR v1.4 Turbo with TMC 2208's. This was great info to get me going! Thanks again!

@kaykunack155 5 лет назад

Thanks for the wonderful instructions!

@ManIkWeet 5 лет назад

Cool, can't wait to see some speed comparisons :)

@ChrisJackson3 5 лет назад

Great video! I'm looking forward to the speed test video between the arduino and SKR.

@bilzoo20001 5 лет назад

I installed one of these yesterday on my Hypercube, works great!

@Tech2C 5 лет назад

Good timing!

@xoniq-vr 5 лет назад

I got this SKR1.3 too, combined with TMC 2130 without spaghetti SPI wiring, on my Hypercube. - sensorless homing - no wires for SPI - clean Also bought 4x TMC2130 with pre-configured SPI direct replacement for 22 euros from Bigtreetech. Also added the TFT 3.5 touchscreen LCD together with the smart LCD screen controller. Really a huge upgrade with all these features. Tip: the E1 heater input can be used for turning the hotend fan on when heating E0 to 50+ degrees, which is nice so when idle it doesn’t make any sound.

@msdesignru 5 лет назад

Are you going to try SKR Pro next time?

@Tech2C 5 лет назад

Well done. Yes that extra mosfet output can be used for anything. I'll probably do the same as you.

@blackmorth 5 лет назад

@@Tech2C hi, top video as always. Do you know "zesty nimble" that's change bowden to deported direct drive. That should be cool to try to integrate it to the hypercube.

@TheForce 5 лет назад

@@blackmorth having a printbite+ surface he probably knows about flex3drive already.

@awesomefacepalm 5 лет назад

Ordered one right away! Gonna make my old printer work again!

@Crits-Crafts 5 лет назад

Glad I held off on getting a ramps board for my hypercube build

@rondlh20 5 лет назад

Great review and Marlin guide, this seems to be a easy replacement for the popular MKS Gen-L board (dimensions, layout)

@tanahy310 5 лет назад

Looking forward to that comparison!

@onequaker 4 года назад

Thanks for your work and hypercube playlist

@thebeststooge 5 лет назад

I just ordered this on Amazon with 5 TMC2208's included. Thanks mate you got me to buy something else (last one was that laser).

@Hammersmash3dFace 4 года назад

i haven't even installed the ramps board and now this..love it :D

@davidflorey 4 года назад

Same, just ordered my Arduino & Ramps board kit, and just saw this video... Grrr... Ahwell, will have to order this too and compare them myself!

@pietk 4 года назад

verry nice that you put the parts data in the video. thanks.

@haydenc2742 5 лет назад

Cool just ordered one!!! Nice!

@CMDRBlueeagle66 5 лет назад

Just finished installing mine on my Anet A8. Great board and a great price. Took six days to get from BigtreeTech in China to Wales, UK. Very impressed. I didn't have an issue with my capacitive sensor and Octocoupler.

@benriefourie115 5 лет назад

Any print quality improvement over the A8 board?

@marionboineau 4 года назад

Big thanks for all this information.

@brianboni4876 5 лет назад

This is awesome!

@l3d-3dmaker58 5 лет назад

nice! I was looking into this

@kevineberson586 5 лет назад

Finaly a good tutorial to how to use this board. Thanks alot! 😃

@msdesignru 5 лет назад

not the only on YT

@Worelock1966 5 лет назад

Great video, very clear and concise. I have 3 of these running ender 3's (with 2208's) and they are proving to be excellent value for money.

@pratyusha1588 5 лет назад

Hey, was there any significant improvement in print quality ?

@Worelock1966 5 лет назад

@@pratyusha1588 not so much in the actual print quality, where I do notice a huge difference is with my 0.9deg steppers on the extruders. I can now run them at full 256 stepping rates without them skipping, before I have to run them at 128 bit. I am also printing quite a bit faster with the 32bit boards. Then there is the added bonus of more memory on the board which means I can run all the marlin features and not have to leave anything out due to the limitations of the other boards

@pratyusha1588 5 лет назад

@@Worelock1966 Thanks for the reply !!

@Nuttavoot 5 лет назад

I use this SKR v1.3 board in my Hypercube for a long while now.

@kortt 5 лет назад

Thanks for the video. I have one on order with 4X tmc2130 spi drivers.

@Side85Winder 5 лет назад

Looks like a fantastic option for people moving straight to a 32 bit that dont have a ramps all ready as they could use a "re-arm" as clones are becomming more abundant.

@Tech2C 5 лет назад

I also like that it is a single board, rather than a double stack.

@merlinmcentee2553 5 лет назад

Hey mate, thanks again for a great review. And thanks for the hypercube. Finishing my build soon, but waiting for this board to arrive. Im using an inductive sensor like yours and was wondering if you could please do a quick video on how you removed the pullup resistor and where or not you still had to add resistors to the sensor. Thanks :)

@morantaylor 5 лет назад

Thanks for this guide. I am currently using a makerbase gen l board it had the same issue with the pull ups. To fix this a opto isolator board was used to translate the signal levels. I have the TMC2130 modules and used wire wrap wire rather than jumper wires for a cleaner connection. Moran.

@MrKelaher 5 лет назад

really helpful, ta !

@dammitimmad6189 4 года назад

thank you for making this Video it is a metric ton of help!!!

@thebeststooge 4 года назад

I found out what the issue was and it was indeed Marlin 2.0 removing sanity checks that has been in it since its beta. They are considering bringing it back so customers of pre made machines don't throw some super high numbers into their slicer and destroy their machines. Anyway I did an ABS print at 0.2mm layers and I am floored. Seriously, it was the most perfect print I have ever had with ABS (same old old ABS too) so I have to think that due to it not pausing it just makes better, and smoother, prints.

@DeadEndPresentations 5 лет назад

I understood about 10% of what you were talking about but I'm certain that as I get more involved with 3D printing it will make some sense.

@avejst 5 лет назад

impressive board Thank for sharing :-)

@msdesignru 5 лет назад

the seller just finished a giveaway of SKR Pro!

@thebeststooge 5 лет назад

Bad reviews on the PRO all over the world.

@JeuneLoup81 5 лет назад

For the Z induction sensor, there's no need to remove the pullup resistor, you can connect it with just a diode : I use a 1n5818 schottky diode, the anode connected to the endstop input signal and the cathode to the sensor output. A schottky diode is important as the foward voltage has to be low enough to provide a logical LOW voltage when the current flow through it (it won't work with a 1n4148 and a 3.3v mcu for example).

@WolframWebers 5 лет назад

I checked that with a 1N4007 and it works really good.

@meaonoro 4 года назад

@@WolframWebers How did you do thtat?

@rickslful 5 лет назад

It is quite possible to use a pullup resistor with an inductive sensor, it would just need to be an NPN sensor. the only additional component necessary would be a diode between the signal wire and the board, with the anode facing the control board and the cathode facing the sensor's wire.

@lkibbler 5 лет назад

rickslful thanks for that info. I realized you were right as soon as I read it!

@NorthGaSawyer 5 лет назад

Thanks for the video. I was pleased to see you were using VSC as there are already several videos out there that show how to do this with Atom. I would add one tip: You don't have to specify the drive for the download. PlatformIO will automatically find it. At least it did for me.

@CapApollo 5 лет назад

i still use ramps with 4988 drivers. rock solid.

@electronic7979 5 лет назад

Good item 👍

@KertaDrake 4 года назад

I gotta say I'm liking that they took replacable fuses seriously. Tired of so many boards either not having them, or having them soldered on the board.

@bertholdheisterkamp1944 5 лет назад

awesome video, thank you very much for giving such good advice, i will also order one and i would have beeen stuck when recognizing, the inductive sensor just wouldn‘t deliver the signal.. now I know the responsible resistor already 🤗 two questions: what material are you using on top of the bed for best adhesion? And don‘t you ever use an additional cooling air behind the nozzle? kind regards

@Max_Weight 5 лет назад

Got my 32-bit board for 14 euro on AliExpress. Still works like a charm after 6 months

@samuelgonzalez7783 5 лет назад

This looks perfect for a board replacement for my Ender 3.

@BrianVanderbusch 5 лет назад

Mine came in a few weeks ago, and this video reminded me to get started on it. My ender 3 is currently using a MKS Gen L board w/BLTouch sensor.

@NZSpides 5 лет назад

This is great timing! I'm in the process of building another Hypercube! This one will have a bed size of 300x300. Also including two Z axis motors, so I can have a more stable Bed (along with the quad Z rails. I guess I'm kinda going for a Hypercube Evolution like Scott 3D's

@WhiteWolfos 4 года назад

Did you build it?

@NZSpides 4 года назад

@@WhiteWolfos Yes, yes I did. I have been spending a couple of weeks fixing the bugs in it. Still a way to go to get it printing as good as my original Hypercube, but it's good enough to do simple prints with.

@Appregator 4 года назад

How do you add 2 Z-Axis motors on a board with only one Z-Axis Stepper Motor Drive Slot ? I see it has 2 Extruder Motor Step Motor slots.

@crckdns 5 лет назад

Now I need the same for a dual head setup🙀😻

@MarinusMakesStuff 5 лет назад

Wow, right on time!!! I just bit the bullet and bought one SKR v1.3 board last thursday with 5 TMC2208's :) Sweet deals! Even cheaper than getting a Ramps1.4+Mega+5xTMC2208. The only reason why I bought one is because I scored a ridiculously cheap 2nd hand Delta that needs some good loving. At baudrate you say eleven fifteen twohundred. Should be five instead of fifteen of course ;)

@Tech2C 5 лет назад

Nice purchase! Yes I mean't eleven five two hundred, oops :)

@MarinusMakesStuff 5 лет назад

@@Tech2C It's okay, people will understand. Right now we're heaving a heatwave over here so I can't work on the machine this week. I'll be receiving it in 10 days anyway and I just bought a mobile air conditioner so I can give you my opinion of the board soon :)

@dunichtich100 5 лет назад

Awesome Video as always! 😁 ceep going! I hope you will install some Trinamic Drivers with the controll of lost steps 😉 this could prevent layer shifts ;)

@Tech2C 5 лет назад

I'm getting TMC2208 v3 soon for X and Y

@dunichtich100 5 лет назад

@@Tech2C verry cool! I wish you the best, so that it'll work 😉👍

@Ryan11lv426 5 лет назад

I just used this same board and it kicks ass, but I made some modifications to marlin 2.0 for baclash compensation in the Z axis for core xy printers if i see some interest ill post it up and update this comment. Just trying to be helpful in the community but I feel its detrimental to the firmware to spam forks if theres no interest. you rock man thanks for what youve done for the community.

@MrJacobegg 5 лет назад

If be interested. But why not submit a pull request or open an issue on the Marlin GitHub repo? Lots of people have deltas and might want to use this board.

@Ryan11lv426 5 лет назад

@@MrJacobegg because I had to remove the safety features for core kinematics in marlin 2.0 and didn't see anyone interested. If it gets some attention and people think it would be useful I'll make it an option and submit a pull request as you've suggested.

@spikekent 5 лет назад

Great video and very helpful too. I've been considering one of these boards for the #Borg (CR-10s4 on steroids). Now it's a certainty. Thank you.

@andypodmore6721 5 лет назад

I have 1 on my Anet E10

@spikekent 5 лет назад

@@andypodmore6721 Cool. I will check if it fits in my control box. If not, I will probably wait till I move the electronics to under the bed.

@id104335409 5 лет назад

Subscribed!

@alexlo7708 5 лет назад

When control in step motor . It's open loop. I think one cannot see different between the two board.

@Lionel_Martinez_tgv26 4 года назад

Hello, Thank you for your work. I would like to know what support you use on your heated bed. I am surprised to see it working with the blue sensor. Thanks in advance.

@bigfilsing 4 года назад

Could you please explain how you got the inductive sensor working after removing the pull up resistor R11 Thanks

@oleurgast730 5 лет назад

Thanks for this video. I think the SKR Boards are a very nice solution. The firmware-upgrade seems extremly easy, esp. for beginners. Esp. if someone has a "Mainstream" printer (like Anet A8, CR-10, Ender 3 ...) he might simply get a precompiled firmware.bin and put it onto micro SD, so getting a plug-and-play replacement. While any advanced user might config the board as he wish. A nearly perfect solution. Did I understand right that pluging the USB into the PC it is recogniced as serial connection and SD-cardreader the same time? That sounds great, because esp. here in Germany many people use "Fritz!Box" as router. This "Fritz!Box" is not only a router, but also has remote USB (called "USB Fernanschluss") and also can be used as WLAN- and DECT Repeater. Older used Fritz!Boxes (like the 7390) with defect DSL-Modem you often get for 25€ or less. I use a 7590 as main router and 3*7390 as repeater anyway - so with placeing one of the repeaters near the SKR using a USB-Cable and remote USB I could add WLAN to the SKR for free. (only for Windows PC). It sounds very nice.

@martins.-pach3979 4 года назад

Hi, nice video, I saw you shared your configuration.h file but would you mind sharing your configuration.adv.h as well? thank you

@RomanoPRODUCTION 5 лет назад

excellent!

@sabership 5 лет назад

More good news. Also keep an eye out for new TMC motor drivers in the near future. I hear there are more options becoming available soon that will do a better job with current supplied to motors to help prevent layer shifts. All this without overheating and even in stealth chop mode.

@Tech2C 5 лет назад

Looking forward to it. I have TMC2208 v3 on the way to replace my X and Y. The TMC2209 is coming soon which has lower RDSon resistance which should mean less heat.

@loganfraser 5 лет назад

The TMC2209 is available now with improved stealthchop and stall detection for sensorless homing. :) Drivers are still being worked on, however by the time they arrive from China you'll probably have reasonably solid drivers available.

@AndrewGillard 5 лет назад

The TMC5160/5161 are looking pretty nice, too :) Check out the comparison on Watterott's documentation site here: learn.watterott.com/silentstepstick/comparison/ (Buy your SilentStepSticks from Watterott [or a reseller] if you can! They're the ones that are designing the SilentStepStick modules that the Chinese then clone! It's all Open Hardware, too: github.com/watterott/SilentStepStick ) The TMC5160 is much higher power than the older drivers/modules, but it must be driven over SPI - it can't use the traditional step/direction lines - so I don't know how well-supported that'll be in different firmwares. While the TMC5161 seems to bring back support for step/dir - but also has a MOSFET Rds(on) of 0.5Ω, while the 5160 was down to 0.1Ω, so I suspect it won't be as powerful. We'll have to wait and see...

@synco1985 5 лет назад

Hello, Can you please repeat the print speed test that you did with arduino mega? with the cilinder. does this board has the same problem?

@yusufilkerozturk4715 4 года назад

hello, great video, detailed tech info. would you do 32 bit vs 8 bit speed comparison please? thanks

@rodrigo.guimaraes 4 года назад

I know its 9 months old this video, but have you thought about a dual extruder upgrade for the hyper cube? I'm not really capable yet to design and chanfe the board configuration for it, but for some filaments that would be awesome!

@BeyondFunction1 4 года назад

How does one power more than two hotends? Say you wanted to print three or more colors or have separate print heads for different types of filament?

@thomasbigguy1849 5 лет назад

swap y and e steppers in sketch to fix skipping...amazing board

@gymkhanadog 5 лет назад

Sweet! It's a generic Smoothieboard! Way better priced than $105-180 depending on the features you want. I wonder if there's much benefit from going 32bit. I mean, my Anet A8 and Ender 3 already prints happily from Octoprint at 60mm/s with no issues. 60mm/s seems to be a good sweet spot unless you have a very stiff machine with a lot of mass to hold it in place.

@BrianVanderbusch 5 лет назад

Their installation video shows them using the Z max endstop for the Z min probe. Would that keep you from having to modify the board?

@lezbriddon 5 лет назад

any disadvantage with the cheaper (on ebay) v1.1 boards? also the re-arm can be had a little cheaper but then you need to add a ramps for things. thinking of getting 2-3 boards, 1 update my fake prusa and 2 make a laser cutter and 3 a small table top cnc

@RFMongoose 4 года назад

will it support a k type thermo-couple? or perhaps a expansion module for a k type?

@Barton69 3 года назад

Tech2C - Could you please help? I desoldered the R11 resistor, and i'm using normally open sensor with diode in reverse. How should i set up config.h?

@petercallison5765 4 года назад

Any advice on which stepsticks to buy?

@chooseymomschoose 5 лет назад

This seems like a good deal for someone who needs better brains for a cheap delta. I'll get interested when they added an Ethernet port and web interface.

@amatoroyuncu5540 3 года назад

What are the lengths and diameters of the profiles and shafts? Do you have a material list?

@chrisbufahl4996 3 года назад

Is there a board that can be used thats just plug an play like a creatility or something similar?

@Bartetmedia 5 лет назад

Do you get better quality prints or not?

@luiseduardojatarmontano1983 4 года назад

Hello, I have a concern about this board. Do yo need to print with a cable connected to the PC? or can you save and print directly from your micro SD card?

@AlanMedina314 5 лет назад

This was motivating all in one controller for a fair price.

@Iskelderon 4 года назад

Huge advantage: The stepper drivers aren't built in and you can use your own instead, so using TMC drivers in your printers is made dead easy!

@FPChris 2 года назад

I had an Anet E5X died on me. Could I use one of this to replace the board?

@elfpimp1 5 лет назад

What type of sensor is that on your print head. Also, Did I hear right? I should be able to use this board without having to use external mosfets for my hear bed and nozzle??

@Skeptic2006 4 года назад

Anyone know if this could be used for a diy cnc-machine? I have TB6600 stepper drivers and Nema 23 motors.

@Bayle_Bune 4 года назад

Just got the SKR 1.4 (the newer board, with "Turbo") with 2209 drivers. Wondering how well sensorless homing will work with a Hypercube

@multidomar 3 года назад

Hi Tech2C, I'm still waiting for the speed comparison follow up video ;) Like this to let him know

@shrekiic6630 4 года назад

Is it possible to use this for a 3-axies mill or maybe even a 5-axies?

@bigbadtroll7353 3 года назад

How did you use the ramps endstop to work with that board??

@hima4all 3 года назад

hello how about skr mini e3 v2?

@ikbenniekjuuhh6286 4 года назад

Please help! My layers are not perfectly aligned. I have a anti z wobble nut! and a motor with thread build in! I am using the cura slicer! And have a skr 1.3!

@jasonaldridge2810 4 года назад

Got the SKR 1.3 and board failed after a couple of weeks. Reads high temps on the thermistor inputs. Tried everything but reads anything from 100 - 200 degrees even with nothing connected. Ordered another board and seems to be ok. First board followed your example of removing the pull up resistor. Second board I just reassigned the BLtouch output onto the servo pins. No need to remove anything :)

@roadstar499 3 года назад

will this replace a cr10 board?? is it plug and play? thanks

@Sonicshadow191 4 года назад

Hello again @Tech2C , did you have to make any changes to the configs to get your Reprap discount smart controller to work on the SKR1.3? First time using the screen I initially bought for the Ramps but never used and cant get it to work.

@Sonicshadow191 4 года назад

Made a guess that the pins were wrong and saw someone suggested the cables were installed upside down on some devices. Flipped them and seems to be working now

@ganakil 4 года назад

can I flash the firmware as arduino atmel? Need Special code? Need new stepper motors?

@nutbox76 5 лет назад

I have setup a inductive sensor without removing the pullup resister and it works fine.

@Core3DTech 4 года назад

what type of resistors or voltage regulator is on your sensor?

@vishalpatil571 3 года назад

Can I use power supply of 12v 30A to this board?

@St0RM33 5 лет назад

I have a prusa mk3s..it uses a rambo board i believe? Is it 32bit like this one?

@AcidicVids 4 года назад

MK3/MK3s uses an Einsy Rambo. It's NOT 32 bit. While 32 bit boards are nice I would stick with what you got at least on the Prusa printers, even more so if you plan on using a MMU2.

@MiggyManMike 5 лет назад

There's a very interesting conversation or two on the marin github about using tmc2130 sensorless homing with corexy in marlin 2.

@thebeststooge 5 лет назад

I have a CoreXY and what was said? Personally the bump thump of sensorless homing is not sane.

@sjdennis 4 года назад

Hey Tech2C, what are your thought on this vs something like a 8bit board with a RPi and Klipper setup? Also is this board able to be run with Klipper or is it just 100% not necessary with the horsepower of this little guy? I would like to also know your thoughts on if this would be a good board to drive a MPCNC setup. Love your Hypercube videos, thanks for providing the community with great knowledge in a light comical format. Cheers from Canada.

@Tech2C 4 года назад

Hello from Australia! I've only used Marlin firmware on the 8 bit and 32 bit boards. The latest version 2.0 of Marlin works well for both MCUs. It's just when printing faster than 50mm/s with corexy machines that 8 bit MCUs may slow down the print, but it still works. No difference in print quality between them with Marlin. Other firmwares may produce different results. I hear klipper is very good, but it's a 2 board solution. Cheerio.