Cheap and Easy Model Water

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Modellers often shy away from modelling water because it is considered to be too hard… It can also be really expensive if you have a large area to cover in resin.
This week’s video shows a really cheap and easy way to model water using ingredients you probably already have in your house.
The “Real” World
I’m testing this out on my new Port Dinorwic layout that is currently under construction. It’s been a great test bed for new ideas and small layouts can be brilliant for allowing you to try new techniques.
You can find out more about this project on my website at www.kathymilla....
The layout is based on the old Port Dinorwic slate dock.
Materials
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White or PVA glue - I used two types
Brian Clegg Blue Label Washable PVA Adhesive amzn.to/2Jgdwie
Hobbycraft Tacky Glue
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Brushes etc
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@akihusodo 5 лет назад

I love my pva, a lot we can do with it and is very cheap for completing a big project like that, thanks for sharing Kathy, love your show, have a good day.

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

Thanks a lot. I agree, PVA is underrated

@colnagocowboy 5 лет назад

In the US elmers makes a clear pva which i have used to make water. For ripples i would use modpog. Both readily available in local craft stores. Ive also used woodland scenics water products. Both methods yield good results.

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

Good to know, thanks.

@dontbeabutt7786 Год назад

This looks amazing! I will definitely be using this method in my architecture studies. Model making can end up costing so much for students so this is gold! Thank you for your creativity :)

@francoisguigues8633 Год назад

Avec du silicone transparent ,on a le même rendu,merci pour cette autre technique intéressante . Bien le bonjour de France

@fieldaf3893 4 года назад

this is brilliant, stumbled across this in my recommended after looking around to do our first model build with my dad looking to do a 1960s diesel yard

@KathyMillatt 4 года назад

Good luck. I hope your first build goes well.

@stevewallis8197 5 лет назад

I used my airbrush (without paint, just air!) to gently blow ripples onto the wet tacky glue. Seems to work OK. I've seen people do the same with mod-podge gloss medium as well.

@affiliatedmember6940 5 лет назад

Well you beat me to it.... great suggestion... it really does work well ...

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

The problem I found with PVA is that if it was thin enough to blow then it levelled back out.

@affiliatedmember6940 5 лет назад

@@KathyMillatt I like using higher pressure on stuff like that... but I also like the mod-podge method also and find it to be almost satisfying to watch it ripple and dry...

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

It always looks like a great technique but I wanted this one to be accessible to everyone even those without an airbrush.

@affiliatedmember6940 5 лет назад

@@KathyMillatt true very true... and I appreciate all of your videos... I am planning out my own giant train worldscape and your videos have been very good for me to watch... I'm a great fan of yours...

@geomodelrailroader 3 года назад

The Queen of Scenery does it again Good One Kathy! I might use this on my layout.

@chrissharp5073 4 года назад

Brilliant idea Kathy used it on my carfloat terminus. I now use your videos as as a working library for my latest railroad layout and as an ideas centre as well. Thank you for sharing your time and skills in this great hobby.

@KathyMillatt 4 года назад

Thank you so much and I’m glad I could help.

@toypolloi 5 лет назад

Thanks for sharing. That's a really cool technique and the end results look great. Cheers

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

I was impressed how well it came out.

@markarnold8160 5 лет назад

It looks great Kathy and I think the key to how the ripples look and the depth of the water is down to the lighting. Thanks for a great video.

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

Good photos do make even bad models look better. I need to practice more!

@AzraelThanatos 5 лет назад

Personally, I've tended to, after painting water, to start with a layer of gloss polyeurethane, then stipple on the clear drying, gloss mod podge before another thin layer of gloss over that. The end result is less vulnerable to water accidents along with most other mishaps. At least with terrain and larger bases/diorama work, I've used mainly gloss if I'm doing miniatures work though. As another tip, if you want the really algae overgrown water such as swamp/pond type use polyeurethane and sprinkle on a mix of fine flocks from greens and browns. Then put another layer over it, the end result looks like the marshy mess in the water that can be further enhanced by other plant work over and through it.

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

I love making bogs etc. So much fun! I wanted to do PVA for this as I’d never used it before. My go to has always been acrylic gloss medium as I had a very bad experience with Mod Podge not drying through my waves.

@billbeech5328 Год назад

Hi Kathy, saw this some time ago and and went straight to my model and created a beach and rocks scene with the waves breaking, looked very good for a first attempt. But I have now gone a stage further with the toilet paper and pva, I know make rock faces using the molds available and instead of modelling plaster I make a very thin and light alternative using the same technique, making very sure to get the toilet paper very damp and pushed into the crevices, came out great and a fraction of the weight, also it is a little flexible which aids fitting. Many thanks for the video, regards Bill (A budding modeller, at 78) 🙂I would send pics, but can't see how.

@KathyMillatt Год назад

Thanks for the pics you did send. Stunning!

@brianmicky7596 5 лет назад

Hi Kathy, looks really good ,not tried it but will give it a go , like you I like a challenge thank you for being there , All the Best Brian 🤗

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

Thanks Brian.

@Gatherleymodeller. Месяц назад

Nice video 😊

@KathyMillatt Месяц назад

Thanks 😊

@Myfactory62 5 лет назад

Looks effective,depends on the 'kind' of water,on larger flat canal type areas or lakes(as on your layout section) i think it works well,plus you can vary the base colours for different tones and depth effects.

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

True. Water has so many different types and it’s great to have a few methods on your arsenal of techniques.

@ModelNerd 5 лет назад

Great technique. It's obviously much cheaper than dedicated modelling products for water, and easier than general resin (the last two part resin I tried got so hot it warped the model!). I'll definitely be giving this a go, thanks.

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

So much cheaper! Just remember to test your PVA. Some do dry clearer than others. I notice Hobbycraft now sell a clear PVA.

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

Resin heating up is a real issue. I’ve heard of plastic swimmers who have been put in the water melting. Awful thought!

@ModelkitStuff 3 года назад

A good way of creating ripples is with tissue paper socked in water thinned PVA. Especially good for creating wakes from boats. Simply soak in PVA watered down and then place with tweezers and shape. Once dry you can paint it but often look just fine as it is.

@KathyMillatt 3 года назад

I like using translucent materials so that there is a bit of depth to the waves but I have seen some stunning results using the methods you mention. There's so many ways to do the same thing!

@Beatlefan67 Год назад

Excellent Kathy. It's always a pleasure to see your stuff. I've no idea why a 3-year-old vid has popped up though!

@KathyMillatt Год назад

The algorithm works in mysterious ways!

@alrethianscraftsbattles 5 лет назад

This method is so easy, and it actually works very well! Thank you for this. Liked & subscribed. Finishing my modular warhammer boards.

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

Great! Glad you found it useful.

@mattreagan4347 2 года назад

This is brilliant, thanks for the great idea. I did not have any resin available and wanted to try making a small & simple water feature, I will be trying this out today. Thanks so much

@KathyMillatt 2 года назад

There is clear PVA available now which would be even better.

@BALD8BIL 5 лет назад

What a awesome job and this video is amazing thanks for sharing with us and I'm going to share it to my new Facebook group TRAINS ACROSS THE WORLD

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

Thanks a lot!

@christopherkingsland4604 5 лет назад

This is a really smart method - I have not been too keen on using 2-part chemicals due to cost and potential toxicity. Great video! I'm definitely going to experiment with this - I think it will be ideal for shallow stagnant/almost 'dry stream' applications...

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

I agree and it is much safer if you are doing it with children too.

@AlanReynoldsBucklandJunction 5 лет назад

Another great vid Kathy. Yes I do use PVA but not yet for water scenes, but I will in the future. I use PVA in conjunction with Jaycloth's in a paper mache form, three ply's and the end result is strong taunt way of producing landscapes, I have even convinced Jenny Kirk to use this method. Please keep up your great content for modellers. Regards Al....

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

I’m using PVA more and more but I’ve not tried it with J-cloths... yet.

@Chandwell 3 года назад

This is an excellent example of using PVA as water. I am almost at the point on my N gauge layout to create a centrepiece inner-city river. It's quite wide and I want it to be very similar to the water you've modelled here. But I have two questions - do you find that the PVA returns to a milky colour over time, or can you be confident that once it's clear it will stay clear (as long as you keep it dry)? And secondly - I want my river to be almost ripple-free. I saw you point out that the first of your layers has brush marks. Is there a way to get it even more level? By watering down slightly for a top coat or something? I'm really keen to use PVA rather than a resin-based product, so I'd really appreciate your thoughts.

@KathyMillatt 3 года назад

Hi. You can buy clear PVAs which I haven’t tried but look excellent for not being milky. Hobbycraft has some. Mine hasn’t gone milky but a coat of gloss Mod Podge might help as that doesn’t rewet like pure PVA.

@KathyMillatt 3 года назад

On the brushstrokes, a thinner product would leave fewer or you might be able to sand if you do get them.

@Chandwell 3 года назад

@@KathyMillatt Thank you again for this video, and your replies. In the end I went with toilet paper and acrylic varnish for the water. However, your use of "drawing" with tacky PVA was inspiring, and I used it to excellent effect on a weir in the same scene, as the basis for the white-water part of the drop of the weir. I couldn't be happier with the result of my efforts - thank you!

@KathyMillatt 3 года назад

@@Chandwell Glad you found it useful!

@neilrogers1571 5 лет назад

Kathy a few years ago I use some pva to make a river and waterfall the river started out clear but then turned cloudy which was disappointing. How ever it worked fine for the waterfall. What I did was spread a sheet of cling film out dribbled the pva across the film in pieces 5-10mm wide and 50 to 100mm long before it dried I used a cocktail stick to rough up the edges so they had a feathery feel. Then let it dry pealed them off the film stuck them in place on the waterfall, when that set I dry brushed some white down the fall. To me the whole think looked very realistic and light and feathery enough to look like water flowing with the hint of spray. The test is I would do this again but not for a body of water. Neil

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

Neil, I’ve only done waterfalls with silicone before but it sounds like you’ve nailed it. The UK isn’t that humid so the PVA has stayed clear. I can imagine in some areas, it. At be more of a problem.

@jeffgoldenberg9579 5 лет назад

You could use a product like Mod Podge, or gloss medium, with a mop brush dabbed thickly on the surface and with repeat coats to build up the effect. I've seen others use a blast of air from an airbrush compressor, but you have to keep doing this until it dries or else it will level out. Tedious but effective.

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

I normally use gloss medium but was challenged to do something cheap and available everywhere. I’ve not tried the airbrush but PVA definitely self levels a lot.

@normanrowe2831 5 лет назад

Nice. Surprisingly great results.

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

I was surprised and relieved as it’s the front if the layout. 😁

@newfenrisrailroad621 5 лет назад

That was great Kathy as I am looking for a new way to model water for my layout and gaming table

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

I hope this works well for you.

@CM-ARM 5 лет назад

That's pretty cool Kathy. I'm going to have to try it out

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

Good luck!

@peterblakey576 5 лет назад

Well that seemed so easy. I will definitely try your way when I add water to my canal. Thanks for a great Video.

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

Glad you found it useful and good luck.

@peterblakey576 5 лет назад

@@KathyMillatt Thanks I will let you know how it goes.

@peezebeuponyou3774 5 лет назад

Looks great Kathy. I've experimented using PVA, but it always dries murky. I'd suggest Mod Podge to create the ripples- the gloss version. Steve.

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

I was asked to do something easily available hence PVA. I’ve only tried Mod Podge once and my waves did not dry clear so I’ve used acrylic gloss medium instead with great results.

@williambryant5946 5 лет назад

@@KathyMillatt Nobody pays attention to what is said before the video. I watch your other videos and know that you've made water from all types of things and if others were a fan of yours they would know what you're doing here. Nice video and thanks for sharing great modeling techniques.

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

William Bryant I probably should have mentioned all those other videos. Missed opportunity! Thanks.

@bevsartsandcrafts715 2 года назад

This is brilliant. I’m going to do this xx

@mindbuilder8768 4 года назад

awesome! id love to make a pond for my L scale railway, thanks for the tip!

@KathyMillatt 4 года назад

Water adds so much life to a landscape.

@khoshekhthecat 4 года назад

How big is L scale

@clouddog2393 2 года назад

Great method for modelling cheap water . Thanks Kathy . ( Have only today discovered your channel and have subscribed . )

@KathyMillatt 2 года назад

Thanks so much!

@jvanamb 5 лет назад

Hi Kathy, First off I just watched the replay of the STEVE BROWN LIVE (on record) show. THANK YOU for guesting. Secondly, many decades ago I did PBA Water Effects. It remains a superb technique in areas of little or no depth. Quite effective results for a teenager on an allowance. Secondly, one can be ashamed, I SAID ASHAMED 😳, of a particular modeler who leaves holes or gaps in their (HER) structure. ASHAMED I SAY. OK I have been known to do the same, but I don't admit to it. I admit to being a cheap skate. And in those days I molded ceramic rocks and cliffs I would save the unused broken bits and dust in a plastic container. I would do the same with sawdust. Then when a gap exsists I would make a small slurry of "dust", PBA, H2O, and Mom's dishwashing liquid to PACK THE GAPs. BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY ADMIT TO NOTHING. Love all you do. Again thank you for doing the STEVE BROWN show. ~ Jim Van Amburgh

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

Thanks Jim. It’s too easy to use videos to make yourself look perfect but I’m not and I think it’s important to show failures to encourage people as it never goes right 100% of the time.

@jvanamb 5 лет назад

@@KathyMillatt You know there some sense in what you say. I guess we subs. just see you as Ms. Perfection. Love Jim

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

What a huge pressure! I’m definitely not perfect.

@heritagejunction2184 4 года назад

Yeah I think the pva works very well I made a river ,laid a base of bird grit as bed and just poured PVA in it looked good and was as cheap as chips Regards David

@KathyMillatt 4 года назад

I love stuff like that. Whilst I do like trying new products, they can get pricy!

@peterkelford 5 лет назад

I did very much the same thing once but: Use scatters (e.g. for sand or grass) BEFORE doing the water. Otherwise, some bits of sand end up in the middle of the water.

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

I normally do water ripples etc last to avoid that problem. It can be a real pain with resin though as the water creeps into your scenery.

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

I often do the first pour of water, let it creep, then do the scenery again, then do the ripples.

@peterkelford 5 лет назад

@@KathyMillatt The layout in question was a sunny beach by the sea with a golf course nearby. But some patches of grass ended up 'floating' in the sea.

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

That sounds so annoying. Planning layers and timing is so important!

@BobBuesking 5 лет назад

You can add a final coat of Acrylic gloss clear, I use Future, to seal the PVA water. You can spray it or use a brush to apply the clear gloss. The advantage gained is "water proofed" water, and things like dust, or other debris will not adhere to the glues surface, making eventual cleaning much easier.

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

I may do that. I was trying to stick to just PVA and so far it seems quite robust but time will tell.

@mauricebrooks3223 Год назад

Hi Kathy just watched your you tube video on water , the tamiya paint that you used is it just called Dark Green Thanks Maurice

@KathyMillatt Год назад

Thanks

@mattbov14 5 лет назад

Great effect Kathy. Will use it method in my new layout. I'm wanting to do a bay/ harbour scene. Regards matt

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

Good luck!

@heavyj4805 5 лет назад

Wonderful tip Kathy, thank you

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

Thanks.

@InterCity134 5 лет назад

Good tip for folks out in the sticks. But if i could I’d get the Water effects of similar product from woodland scenic or Noch as they are just designed to do the ripples and make it so much easier.

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

Some countries can’t even get those products or they are hideously expensive hence the request to do something easily available. Personally, I find gloss medium from an art store works well but I am very blessed to live somewhere with so many choices.

@monsvillerailways5736 10 месяцев назад

Excellent Kathy. This was exactly what I was looking for. 👍 How do you know if your PVA dries cloudy? Is there a particular ingredient to avoid or is it jus trial and error? Happy Modelling Mon

@KathyMillatt 10 месяцев назад

Test patches are the best way but you can buy clear PVA at my local hobby shop.

@johne5854 5 лет назад

Great idea.

@ronchickadel5837 4 года назад

great idea,awesome work

@KathyMillatt 4 года назад

Thanks!

@nickbutler7935 5 лет назад

Very nice effect. I admit I normally finish my water off with Gloss mod podge and my airbrush on a low P.S.I.. However next time I will have a crack using this method. Thanks for another great video.

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

Thanks Nick. I had a bad experience with Mod Podge once but I must try it again. I normally use gloss medium so this was an interesting change.

@SolarRailway 5 лет назад

impressive and well documented

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

Thanks.

@whatchacookin1096 5 лет назад

I like it, came out well. You should use your oily water technique in some spots.

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

I like the idea! Thanks.

@JoeG-firehousewhiskey 5 лет назад

great tutorial, i like the way ithe water came out with the ripples

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

It took a while to land on the technique but I was pleased how well it came out in the end.

@JimOberst 5 лет назад

Kathy, a great episode... love the way you speeded up the repetitive parts. But I'd be afraid to use this method because, as you said, PVA is actually water soluble, and getting it wet could really mess up the effect.

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

Jim. You’re right and it depends what else you are doing there. I know this is against a completed section but I often do the water last.

@JimOberst 5 лет назад

@@KathyMillatt THanks, Kathy. I've learned a LOT from you!

@SMC01ful 2 месяца назад

Legend kathy.

@KathyMillatt 2 месяца назад

Thanks!

@FunWithHOScaleStuff 5 лет назад

Hi. The water effect looks very good. No canal is worth the space it takes up unless it has some barge traffic :-) I'm very interested to see how you cut in a boat or barge onto the water surface. I hope you intend to continue developing the diorama you are constructing. Cheers.

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

Hi John. No boats on this layout due to space constraints but I do have a patch marked out on my main layout to show how I add boats. I just need to build the boats first.

@FlyingCrow 5 лет назад

Great tip. I liked it before you added the ripples because I need to model swampy water which is usually still; and it looked about perfect as far as texture and gloss. The color was really close as well.I wonder if you could mix the paint with the glue as well. Any thoughts?

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

Thanks. You can easily mix paint and glue but I’d always do a top coat in clear just to be sure it has the gloss to it. Even that might not be necessary but I haven’t tried it.

@nj4x4fever2 4 года назад

Hello, I wanted to tell you an easy way to make waves is to squeeze out a thin layer of hot glue onto a sheet of parchment paper. The hot glue is good for making waterfalls. It can be glued down with white glue and it can be painted any color. Cheers

@KathyMillatt 4 года назад

Thanks for the tip.

@richardgawler7643 4 месяца назад

Five years on, could you report back on how well this water effect has lasted? I am sceptical of leaving PVA and tacky glue as a finished surface and it would of course be marvellous to see my fears to be unfounded.

@KathyMillatt 4 месяца назад

I’m sorry but this went in a skip a while ago. No real problems. I did think it got slightly whiter in really damp weather so perhaps a top coat in varnish might be an idea if that’s an issue where you live.

@anderson8361 5 лет назад

Another great video Kathy. I to have used PVA to produce water effects and I will try your method of ripples with a cocktail stick. I have always used the airbrush trick. Your's turned out awesome!! This is a much cheaper way to add a water effect to your layout or diorama. Which way do your prefer.... Pre made water effects (Woodland Scenic etc) or PVA?

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

I’ve never used Woodland Scenics but I think it depends on the water. For canals, this is perfect. For stony rivers, I’d use resin as you can see through it at a greater depth.

@dangoss7180 2 года назад

For sure a very useable idea where money is tight or access to more sophisticated products is difficult.

@hl1796 5 лет назад

Did you ever try to use artist acrylic gloss medium /gloss gel yet Kathy ?, i hear it levelling better than PVA

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

Yes, I’ve used it loads but never a type that self levels, it’s all been thicker than that and I’ve used it for waves or ripples. This was a specific challenge on PVA.

@ShukakuTheCrazy1 Год назад

Thats really cool. How would i go about doing a more marshland sort of water with plants growin out of it?

@KathyMillatt Год назад

I’m be done a lot of other water videos but they were early ones. I’d say resin is the easiest for that though.

@maxanddad1 5 лет назад

Not bad for PVA. May try this on a small pond :)

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

It surprised me too. Give it a go and let me know what you think.

@donavonrobbins1908 5 лет назад

Looks good. Wonder if some clear acrylic would protect it?

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

I’d be wary of it rewetting the PVA and drying at a different rate trapping the water in with its milky look. It should dry eventually but may be hair raising for a while.

@zingerflippinz2066 4 года назад

THAT is awesome!!!! I've been looking for a cheaper way to make water. I used the liquid from Woodland Scenics but it made balloon bubbles on every waterway I made evan when I sealed the foamboard with paint. I suspect a chemical reaction between the water chemicals and the paint chemicals.

@KathyMillatt 4 года назад

That can be a problem. Just don’t put any layer of this on too thick as it shrinks slightly as the water evaporates and can pull away from the edges.

@numbereightyseven 4 года назад

a heat gun, carefully used, might release the bubbles, over the setting time. See Luke Towan's channel. He does that often.

@chrisemptage8896 4 года назад

Thanks Kathy. One of the most realistic water scenes I have ever seen; and so easy. I need to create water in a canal on my layout so your method is the one I shall use. You refer to a list of products at the bottom of the screen but I couldn't access it. Can you tell me the paint you used please (I picked up the glue etc). Many thanks, really good, Chris

@KathyMillatt 4 года назад

Chris. It’s on YT if you hit the more button or check out my blog post on it: www.kathymillatt.co.uk/blog/2019/05/16/cheap-and-easy-model-water/

@chrisemptage8896 4 года назад

@@KathyMillatt Thanks Kathy, I am new to RU-vid and cab#t seem to find the 'more' button, but have the detail I need. Will let you know how I get on. Incidently, is it best to put a boat on the scene before or after the water?

@KathyMillatt 4 года назад

@@chrisemptage8896 Chris, I would do the water first but I only have hull line models so that works for me. I would wrap the boat in cling film and do the final ripples so it is removable if I want it to be...

@chrisemptage8896 4 года назад

@@KathyMillatt Thanks Kathy, will do what you suggest, Many thanks again, Chris

@philRminiatures 5 лет назад

Once again a creative and effective job, thanks for sharing this technique!

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

Thanks Phil.

@tomatoes3 5 лет назад

Kathy, interesting video I've tried this method but find the acylic gloss medium gives a better result although a little more costly .John .

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

I normally use gloss medium too but the challenge was to try PVA only. I do find gloss medium easier to hold the ripple shapes.

@tomatoes3 5 лет назад

@@KathyMillatt Hi , I see, thought it was strange that you should be using just PVA. Bet I never listened to the voice over, sorry.John.

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

I won’t take it personally that you turn me off but I do wonder how you get on repeating techniques without hearing the detail? 😁

@tomatoes3 5 лет назад

@@KathyMillatt Ha as if I would dare.

@johnwalsh6844 5 лет назад

OK , that was vary Cool !

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

Thanks!

@catlady8324 Год назад

Ello luv!

@stevetandysr.2816 8 месяцев назад

I'm just starting my scenry on my N scale layout . Your using PVA glue is really neat . What would happen in filling a 1/2" to 3/4" hole for a pond or lake . Do you think it would still dry clear ? Or am I better off using something else ? Enjoyed your video .

@KathyMillatt 8 месяцев назад

You can but clear PVA but it shrinks as it dries so if you pour too deep a layer it pulls away from the edges as it dries. You would need to do a deep lake with so many thin layers. Personally, I would use a resin because they set chemically so don’t shrink and they will definitely be clear.

@stevetandysr.2816 8 месяцев назад

@@KathyMillatt Thank you so much . My thoughts were along those lines , but wasn't sure . Sure is nice having someone to ask these questions before messing something up . But it's part of the hobby , trial and error . Thanks again .

@KathyMillatt 8 месяцев назад

@@stevetandysr.2816 At least I have done the trial and error for you on this part!

@stevetandysr.2816 8 месяцев назад

@@KathyMillatt Yes , Thanks so much .

@austinyingst5902 5 лет назад

How do you include a boat or watercraft? Removable vessels would leave a "hole"in the water. Waterfronts and barges are part of the scene. Thanks for leading the way.

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

Hi Austin. I always wrap boats in cling film and then put the ripples right up to them. If a little bit of cling film gets stuck then it’s not the end of the world but it normally peeks off ok.

@miguelvalladolid9408 Год назад

Hi, nice and easy to do job, groceos result.

@KathyMillatt Год назад

Thanks!

@MrLosttheplot 5 лет назад

great video. your channel is really a inspiration, thank you

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

Thanks!

@AndyHudson-ModelRailwayBuilds 5 лет назад

looks really good especially considering its just PVA glue, great result, could you use you airbrush to blow ripples into the PVA once you have several layers. Andy

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

A lot of people have commented on using an airbrush but I wanted this to be accessible to everyone, especially those with out an airbrush. PVA has a tendency to self level so some experimentation would be needed.

@sampien9811 4 года назад

Great tutorial! Thank you

@KathyMillatt 4 года назад

Thanks a lot.

@JohnJohnson-cn9fh 5 лет назад

looks great Kathy,nice one.jpj

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

Thanks a lot.

@thebritfarmer 5 лет назад

I have used pva with toilet paper for the ripples.. Marklin of Sweden also has done this and did a tutorial on it.

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

Sounds interesting. I didn’t want such large waves but it’s another technique for your toolbox.

@johnwayneeverett6263 5 лет назад

O YA GOT ME .....YOU SMART GIRL......GOOD STUFF..

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

Thanks.

@johnwayneeverett6263 5 лет назад

SAW A GUY USING TOILET PAPER FOR WAVES FLAYED OUT FLAT ON PVC THEN WET PVC ON TOP LITTLE PUSH WITH BRUSH AND POW NICE LITTLE WAVES

@davidcutts2650 5 лет назад

Brilliant method. Thank you for sharing.

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

Glad you enjoyed it.

@TheOriginalBadger 5 лет назад

I put ripples on my water using Mod Podge gloss medium. Seems to work well.

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

I had a bad experience once but normally use acrylic gloss medium. This was a bit of a challenge to try something new.

@ewoodrailway 5 лет назад

Cheap and effective, thanks for sharing

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

Thanks!

@WAVP371 5 лет назад

Looks great thanks, for sharing!!! A little more expensive route but, here in the u.s. there's a channel called "terranscapes" (Michael is his name), uses realistic water after that dries he, paints mod podge over to create the ripples he's going for... One of these days I'll, do that and use your method as well... Happy modeling my friend kutgw!!!

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

I’ve shown that method a number of times in my videos and the challenge here was to do something cheap and easily available for those who can’t get hold of resin etc. Both methods have their advantages and uses.

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

I do like Terranscapes videos. He does some beautiful work.

@normbenjamin 3 года назад

curious why did you not pour the PBA glue rather than brush it on? If you pour then no brush strokes but I might be mising something here.

@KathyMillatt 3 года назад

If you pour it, it can end up too thick and when it dries, it shrinks, pulling away from the walls. This is not a product for pouring as it’s not meant to be giving depth, just shine.

@setandcentered 5 лет назад

Nice video and technique. Thank you!

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

Thanks.

@GlennBeebe 5 лет назад

Nice work🤙

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

Thanks.

@matthewjones1119 5 лет назад

Never thought this would work

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

Neither did I until I tried it!

@williamsworkshopuk 5 лет назад

Hi Kathy, lovely stuff. I was wondering if this module or section is due to become part of your home layout? Your earlier videos show alot of your loft room but more recently it's on particular projects - so I am curious as to where this baseboard fits in:)

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

Thus is part of my Port Dinorwic micro layout that is coming along very slowly. The water is unfortunately mostly done on my layout.

@Finnertoncentralmodelrailway 5 лет назад

I do like that effect and didn’t know you could get clear pva now would it be cheaper to use toilet paper for the ripples?

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

Toilet paper isn’t clear and I wanted smaller ripples but I know others who use it successfully for slightly larger waves.

@jerryvolpini7987 5 лет назад

Excellent video Kathy, short and sweet! Is pva workable enough that you could use the airbrush to create waves/ripples? Keep up the excellent work 👍

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

I’d worry the PVA would level back out plus the idea of this video was to make it accessible to everyone so I didn’t try it I’m afraid.

@jerryvolpini7987 5 лет назад

@@KathyMillatt Yes but I was hoping you might have given it a try. I use Mod Podge and thought pva might be a cheaper alternative .

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

PVA comes in a wide range of thicknesses so you may find something to suit.

@kevinmacomber5067 5 лет назад

Mix the paint with spackling compound to give texture, then use Mod Podge.

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

I had a bad experience with Mod Podge so just use acrylic gloss medium now. Having said that, the challenge was to use PVA so this isn’t my normal technique for water.

@sparky107107 5 лет назад

that really did turn out great Kathy. i would never have thought of using glue. did you leave each coat for 24 hours?

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

Thanks. The coats only needed half an hour but most got left for longer. They’re quite thin.

@mobius8002 5 лет назад

I have used this method for years and the best way to protect it from any moisture is to let it cure for a week then op coat it with clear gloss acrylic varnish ,it helps the look too by adding that bit extra gloss. just make sure its covered while drying so no dust or muck get on it .

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

Thanks for the tip. I had a problem somewhere else with the acrylic varnish rewetting the PVA and then the varnish dried before the PVA sealing in the damp. Have you had that issue ever?

@mobius8002 5 лет назад

yes ,now think back it made the pva go slightly milky .I tend to use just the cheap acrylic varnish now. I know its a personal choice ,that's the great thing about this hobby isn't it ,there are always new ways that other enthusiast have tried so you can choose.thanks to youtube and folks like yourself who give great tips .I use youtube reviews of products and models to help in purchasing ...it backfires though ,I always end up buying too many locos lol .great job on your tv appearance by the way. its never easy judging others work .

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

Thanks a lot! RU-vid really has opened up modelling hasn’t it. We’re filming a new series of the Great Model Railway Challenge soon.

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

And we all have too many locos!

@mobius8002 5 лет назад

it certainly has helped the enthusiast by allowing them to get the help and advice before spending hard earned money on the wrong items. i am looking forward to seeing the new series, i know you cant say too much but when is it due to be screened?

@johans8622 5 лет назад

U are amazing, wish u could see my work. I do use airbrush do. So im verre amazed bye your hand work. Respectfull greeting from belgium

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

Thanks!

@carlpo5500 3 года назад

Nice Job!

@rosemarymortonjack9387 2 года назад

I want transparent effect - like in a drinking glass of water, which brand do you recommend for this?

@KathyMillatt 2 года назад

There are clear PVAs but resin is a better bet for a deep clear water.

@alexmorgan2296 3 года назад

Looks brilliant - as eve - going to have a try; thank you for sharing. Can you use Modge Podge to seal the surface (plastic and) first?

@KathyMillatt 3 года назад

Thanks. Mod Podge would work well.

@Ken-Kaef 5 лет назад

Thanks for posting. A great result. Cheers

@KathyMillatt 5 лет назад

Thanks Ken

@superdeltic 4 года назад

hi kathy, try watching marklinofsweden tutorial on making ocean water with toilet paper and pva , very close method to yours but the toilet paper really speeds the process up. great videos keep up the good work !

@KathyMillatt 4 года назад

I’ve seen his video and it looks like a great method. I don’t need that size of waves here though as it’s an inland body of water.