Check out Rough Country Lift Kits here: bit.ly/2Yvmi0v Be conservative and not break the bank or pay significantly more for a bit of a quality jump. That is the debate we bring you. Cheap coil-overs or an expensive spacer lift kit.
if you have a newer truck and the shocks are fine go and spend $100 on a spacer then once its time for new shocks or you buy a truck that needs new shocks just go and spend the money on coilovers
@@MACQJR if its just driving on the street get whatever you want. Offroad performance doesnt matter in that case. Off roading I think fox 2.0 are over priced for what they are better bang for the buck anything with a remote ressy.
Man I really could’ve used this video two years ago before I lifted my truck. Glad to see more educational stuff being made available to the general public though. So many options these days it’s good to have resources available to self educate.
I got the 6inch rough country with replacement struts it came with a new set of springs. Also got new upper control arms, so everything is clocked better than prefect. Rides so nice.
I use spacers if i have brand new shocks on already. If they arnt new like a used truck or if i had the truck for a while then I’ll replace it or replace the spacer with a coilover
Great video! I have a 2018 tundra, looking at either the redi lift 4" sst or the bds 3" with coil overs. Csnt decide, pull motorcycle trailer(enclosed with HD dresser) but also want to do some trail driving with truck. Tundra is also my daily. So not sure which way to go.
I currently have a Pro Comp 6” strut spacer kit with the pro runner shocks all around. I am looking to upgrade to coil overs in the front at some point. It appears most of the coil overs (Ex: Fox 2.75) only lift up to 2.5”. What fills that gap?
What would you suggest for lifting just like 3" the max on a dodge magnum awd I really wanna lift it give it that rally look but I don't see many options for that application
Best thing about video like this one is that it allowed regular truck enthusiasts to ask ordinary questions in hope to try to understand truck suspension systems without feeling talked down by seudo truck wannabe engineer, know it all arrogant others
As an owner of a small 4x4 shop I offer 3 options for a lift kit. Either spacer, spacer with preload, or coilover. I can install either one or two for the customer to test out for an extra fee. It's more often that a preload with spacer will be chosen to control the extra weight of the wheel and tire package if purchased at the same time. If only the lift will be purchased, it's just the spacer. Just a thought.
where are you located and do you make custom kits? I want a coilover system for my 2008 Honda Crossroad. It's a Japanese model not sold in the US bcuz they didn't want to compete with the Element
Just ordered rough country vertex coilover 6 inch lift kit for my 2019 Ram 1500. With 35x12.50 AMP terrain attacka on fuel contras 22 with neg44 offset. Thanks
Save your money and wait to buy a quality lift kit. It will save you in the long run and maintain your factory geometry. Also, running bigger wheels and tires puts more stress on the ifs. The necks of your front shocks are small and not as beefy as good coilover shocks which can handle the heavier wheel and tire setups. Save for BDS coilovers, ready lift bilsteins or icon coilovers or bulletproof suspension which uses icon coilovers.
Thanks for the information Quick question I have 4inch lift Nissan Titan 06’ and want to go with coil overs but I’m being told I can’t because there isn’t any company that has a coil over for my specific truck specs. Any where you can help give me some suggestions or idea on what I can do to get a new suspension kit?
I own a 2008 Ford F-150 and I want to lift the front end of my truck 1 1/2” ( I still want to have a 1/2” rake). I do some light off roading and I read that the strut spacers can cause some premature wear. Is it a bad idea to use strut spacers for my situation? Thanks.
Yes, if you want to have useful travel in the suspension. Most people are retards and do it for looks versus functionality. Plus they never really do any trails to use their stock suspension. Screw them losers.
So the longer strut in the factory spring he's referring to is that for example the 5100 upgrade in the superlift because I really didn't understand the difference in kits when I bought for my ram 1500 6inch I just saw cheap superlift shocks vs lifetime warranty bilstien upgrade.....and I went with superlift over rough country because it seems like every 10 people you talk to a shock has always failed in like less than 20k
Hello, I have a '15 toyota tundra. It came with a pro comp 6in lift kit with spacers and stock suspension. I recently bought icon 2.5 coilovers and 2.5 piggy back rears. I really wanted to get rid of the front spacer and possibly rear block. With my new suspension it won't replace the spacer, ill have tonise it to keep the lift level. Is there any way I can get rid of the front spacer with my current purchase?
I just want to add 3-4 inches on my 2003 Chevy s10 cause I am 6'1 and the gas pump is like to my lower thigh and I need to bend down to the side to pump gas. Also would it be better if I just get a 2 inch lift and then get my tires bigger.
I just want the height for the looks. Use 3" spacer (leveling kit) is ok? It is bad for my truck components? I have a 2022 silverado 1500 high country.
Was gonna get the fox 2.5 coilover for my truck how ever I didnt want to dich my stock suspension. So i went and get spacer wich change the quality of the ride . Eventually gonna get me those fox coilovers 😜
I have a 6” lift on my 2022 Ram Rebel ecodiesel and it has the spacers. It has also upgraded 5100 bilstein shocks around. The ride is super rough! Why?
2018 tundra crewmax... Rough country 6" vertex Superlift 6" with fox shocks Readylift 6" with bilstein shocks What's the verdict? Will be towing and light off roading
I've been super confused lately with in coil spacers vs top hat spacers recently and was curious if you know if they both extend your strut or is it just top hat spacers that extend's your struts down travel?
A top hat lengthens the overall length of the strut by adding inches to the top." It won't change the pre-load or ride quality. Coil spacers add preload to the spring as they're installed between the spring and top of the strut - forcing the truck up and creating a stiffer ride on the same spring. Coilovers replace the entire strut/spring combo with a longer strut/spring combo (think strut and tophat as one piece).
Another thing to consider: Does your truck need new struts and shocks. A friend recently bought a 2018 F-150 with 70k on it. He was just gonna go for the spacer leveling kit (Mammoth) but I talked him into the full strut/shock kit, once we got it in and drove it......WOW.....The difference in ride quality was night and day. The factory struts and suspension had been doing an ok job but at 70k they were definitely getting worn out.
I went with extended struts from rough country because coilovers are expensive asf and strut spacers just give a rough drive with the OEM strut travel on a higher lift
I wonder when or if any more companies are going to look into foam cell technology like Ironman 4x4 has. There systems are less expensive than coilovers and blow both performance and ride quality out of the water comparing directly to a remote reservoir system. My shop has installed a couple hundred of their kits so far and our customers love them. We used to focus on either spacer kits or Icon/ King systems but when we can get an Iroman foam cell pro kit installed for only 300-500 more than a spacer kit and it rides nicer than a comparable coilover kit why bother.
I'm the in-between on this because I know coil-overs are good, but I don't want to pay 3k for coil-overs and then use cheap tires. I think full replacement strut like what Mcgaughy's offers is the best of both worlds because of price and ride. It would leave open more of a budget for decent tires also.
I bought a bilstine 6112 front coilovers strut and spring that can be ajusted to a 2 inch lift i was just wondering if i would get a better ride if i dont fully extende the strut leave it in the stock ride level and just use a 2inch lift strut block
Have 2014 ram 1500 4wd. Trying to determine which will offer better daily drive / highway quality. 4inch ready lift sst and adding bilstein front struts or 4inch superlift? They price out very equally, which makes more sense ? Also which generally hase cheaper install labor ?
Install labor will be different from shop to shop, so you’re best bet would be to get quotes. Both of those kits a very good. We recommend checking out forums and determining which you’d prefer 🤘🏼
Which of these would you recommend for my 2019 ram 2500? I want a little lift “maybe 3-5in, undecided” I don’t off-road much and when I do it’s for work. I pull trailers all the time. Box trailers over the road mostly but also my hydrologic dump trailer on and off road.
I drive a 2013 Ford f150 two-wheel drive I do have a 6 inch rough country lift and for the longest time I was unable to find any coilovers finally bilstein makes a 6-in lift strut only thing I have to do is transfer my spring and top hat so any of you that drives a 2013 Ford F-150 two-wheel drive now you know thanks Fuller for this video I hate it how my truck rides on that struts phaser was installed
Hello! I’ve got a F350 with a 2” inch ReadyLift factory spacer. I haul a trailer day in and day out, and I’m always on the road. Would a coil over drastically effect road driving? I know that they improve off road, but I’m not doing much off roading.
If we’re unsure on what would fit our truck from just looking at the website. Can we email you to get your input on if things we have in our cart would fit our truck?
I used spacers to raise my 2018 tacoma 1" and cranked up my procomp coil over for another half inch lift. Just bought a 2.5" spacer to replace the 1" spacer so that I can also crank down my coilover back down a half inch to get back the better rideability
@@CustomOffsetsTV so, I was going to install the spacer so that I can turn down .5" or 1" off the coilovers and was researching what is the torque specs for the upper control arm nut. But before installing the spacer I wanted to make sure my the nut was at 85ft/ lb. So I as I was trying to losen it I noticed how extremely tight it was. After finally loosening and torquing to 85ft/lbs all of a sudden my ride became soooooo much smoother!! Like night and day! Decided not to add the spacer and leave the coilovers where it's at lol
ive got active ride on my 08 suburban and i would like to keep it. currently have a spacer under my strut to level the front end for my 20x12-44 and 305/50/20 toyo proxies but would like to go a with a slightly taller tire. ive already done the norcal mod and still rub tires on the bumper and fender and dont want to do anymore cutting on a perfectly clean suburban
Forgive my ignorance as im still trying to figure out whats best.. but with coilovers shouldn't you still do the diff drop, relocate the sway bar replace the knuckles etc? If so wouldn't you be better served, assuming you're 9n. A fixed budget atm, to get the spacer kit that comes w all that stuff and then Replace the spacer/stock shock combo w something better when you're able or they wear out?
jroll0410 definitely an option! A steel strut spacer will not “wear out” really, unless it gets so rusty that it’s looses its strength- but that would take ages.
I’ve been back and forth between rough country n3 struts, fox 2.0, and the rancho quicklift. I ordered the the ranchos today for the easy stiffness adjustability. I’ll check back later and let y’all know how they’re doing
Custom Offsets yes it does. It says it helps with geometry and weight of bigger tires. But some say it’s all a marketing sales pitch. Just want to know if in your experience it works as intended.
There is one thing you guys forgot to mention, my buddy bought a 6inch bds lift for his 97 obs Chevy and in six month of owning it bushing were coming loose and the truck was making noise over bumps and steering. I think the lift block method is the only way to go. My buddy fixed all the bushings and sold the truck to buy a newer truck.
I'm new to the truck scene, looking at a rough country 6" for my 08 Tundra, I'm just a broke college student so I'm debating whether I should spend the extra for those lifted N3 struts they offer, or stick with the spacer, what would you all suggest?? In the future though I'll definitely be looking at some nice coilovers, thanks for the info great vid! 👍🏼
Custom Offsets I should have included another question for you guys in my comment but it's not related to the struts or spacers haha, you guys are the best though so I figure you'd know, Ive seen a few things around suggesting that if you go over 3" of lift that it's a good idea to do a carrier bearing drop. I've also had people tell me it's a good idea to re-gear when bumping up to a 35" tire, I could deal with the power loss as long as i know it won't damage the vehicle, what would you all say about this? Thanks in advance 👌🏼👍🏼
What are your thoughts on the icon stage 1 lift kit for a ram 1500? I never had the chance to stand next to a 3-4” lifted ram 1500, so not sure how much taller they are. I’m mainly going for a slightly more aggressive look for a truck that will 95% be on the road. There are some trails in NJ to drive which I might do eventually lol but also maybe not. So just wondering if the icon would be worth the money? Or do you think something like the readylift 2.5 inch lift kit would be better. Mainly looking for reliability without breaking the bank too much for my daily driver. Thanks
@@CustomOffsetsTV ok that's what I was mainly wondering! I'm sure the icon would be amazing, but price point is little past my budget for sure lol thanks!
My local offroad shop strongly advises me against using spacer struds, citing problems with stability and ball joints. How accurate is this? I see so many use it and have no problems - what are you guys take on this?
All depends, we've ran them on numerous vehicles for 5+ years with zero issues, any modifications like bigger wheels/tires/spacers etc will put added stress on ball joints/wheel bearings, to what degree depends on how you drive, what you're running for a setup etc!
I have a 6.5 zone lift being installed and saw you in a video next to a truck with the same lift kit and curious how tall you are so I can try to picture myself next to it finished? Lol thanks!
Do either of the methods affect your travel or ground clearance? I’ve heard that spacer kits don’t actually improve your off-road experience or give you more ground clearance and that they are an appearance vs greater off road capabilities like a complete coil over or strut replacement. Taking the obvious, stiffer ride for aggressive off-roading from a coil over, What else does it do that a spacer doesn’t?
Spacers give you more down travel and less up travel. A longer shock and spring setup will allow you to maintain up travel (that the vehicle was designed with) and give you more down travel, helping you in off road driving / over landing etc. You want slightly higher spring rates for offroading with more lift than stock, but it is really dependent on your GVM and GCM as to what those numbers should be. You don't really need longer shocks if you aren't lifting more than 2 inches (with a spacer kit). It can be prudent to install longer / taller bump stops with a spacer kit though, just to make sure the shocks don't get over compressed. Peace
I just went back to your video for the 2019 and up Dodge Ram 1500 3-1/2 leveling and lift kit with 2in lift in the rear a kid like that what would the price on that style of a kit for the Dodge Ram 1500 because when I get my truck really don't want to lift as much as I want to level the truck but I like that 2" left which well allow you to put a nicer Tire on your pickup truck
@@CustomOffsetsTV I was just on your website it's the kit for $900 for the 2019 RAM and up it gives you three and a half inch in the front and 2 in in the rear and 2 metal brackets for your bump stops it was so easy to find it out now I just got to look through the rims and tires but the biggest thing is getting my truck I'm waiting for my friend the trade in his truck which is up you got to bring it in Christmas Eve for them to look it over and then we're going to purchase two vehicles at the same time for a better discount sorry thought if you were weeks before I go get my truck but you will be the first ones I call
We definitely wouldn’t recommend trying to go off road or flying through corners, but usually if installed right it won’t mess with ride quality too much.
I want to lift my 17 silverado but my intentions are mainly towing a travel trailer on highways . It’s the z71 off road package with 22’’ stock rims I intend to keep just add rubber . I have the 6’’ coil over bds in a cart but I’m new enough to this world to not be confident if it necessary
Custom Offsets I was convinced by a friend to just level it for now , I am planning to move to Florida in a couple months and Already have the exhaust and intake on the way so I guess this is what being responsible is . I need new friends lol . Thank you for the reply though
Drew Letteer i would suggest coil overs I live in a small county in Alabama and my coil overs work great for daily driving or off-road I’ve even had my truck off the ground
@@korbanrutherford2174 thanks, have a 2.5 level puck spacer now and it does ride a little stiff. Doesn't bother me but I'll pay the $$$ to get the wife to stop complaining lol
I want to raise my 2014 Ram 1500 Longhorn (Non-air-ride) 3 inches in the front and 1 inch in the rear. I am putting an all-weather tire on it, NOT a Terrian or mud tire. Similar to my Wrangler SRA's. highway tire. How can I keep my factory ride, I hear from many folks ride is much worse. Is it the spaces giving the bad ride cause new geometry? or the Tires they put on? or both. Any help would be appreciated.
Best bet would be something like a level lift, it will keep it very similar to stock on the cheaper side, or if you want to spend a little more getting a nicer setup with control arms, or coils definitely improves ride to stock territory! Check our setups out here - www.customwheeloffset.com/store/suspension?year=2014&make=Ram&model=1500&drive=4WD
I just purchased the 6 inch bds lift kit with the upgraded fox shocks with reservoirs in the rear. I will be running 20x10 fuels with 35x12.5 ridge grapplers on my 2019 Sierra 1500. I heard BDS is the best but I did not get the fox 2.5 coil over conversion kit. Money aside... is the coil overs worth it? I am not a off-roader and I am trying to retain as close as possible to factory ride ( wife’s truck). After watching some videos and doing research, it has been said the bds 6 inch kit rides great without the coil over conversion. Please let me know because if so, I’ll cash out and get the coil over upgrade! Thanks!
@@bayouboyjp1324 Once they're broken in they're extremely bouncy over bumps and give you a ton of body roll. I warrantied them 3 times and the third set was starting to get bouncy too. Went from N3 lifted struts to Bilstein 5100s with 7.5 inch spacers. Huge improvement.
I like the video very much, but what is your opinion on replacing my factory coil over with a spacer on my 6” RC lift kit with the RC coil over that eliminates the spacer?
Got a 2016 GMC Sierra 1500 doublecab. Lookin to get a 5” Rough Country SUSPENSION LIFT | BRACKET KIT. Would you recommend upgrading to the Premium N3 Series Lifted Struts or sticking with upper strut spacers ?
@@zackschmidt4381 Does it make things feel substantially different on the road? Off the road? How much did they cost you? I don't intend to enter any Baja races, but if it makes my Ram feel substantially more solid and quality on county roads and in the hills, I'm interested in that.
@@njc41980 the dealership messed up when the truck was ordered and I had to run the coil spacers on the factory coilovers for almost a month until my coilovers came in, I think the upgrade was around 2k additional. I definetly don’t do the Baja up here in central Alberta but gravel, lease roads even the shitty Anthony he day are nice an smooth. The ability to dial in the front with 2 different adjustments is a lot of fun. I spent hours making small adjustments an then hitting the local speed bumps at Walmart then finding a rough patch of gravel with bumps an washouts to get mine where I liked the way it was handling. My previous truck to this was a 2015 ram1500 with a bds leveling kit an there is no comparison to the smoothness but also the control
