I do a first run on my homemade hydraulic hose crimper. I hope to save enough money to pay for the crimper but, the fun and the challenge of building it was priceless! Check out how it was built: • How I Contructed the C...
I guess it's been three years since you made this video. I have made tons of hoses over thirty + years. The crimp looked great . A small tip. Move the part down more to get the most hose crimped to the internal pipe. Makes it less likely to blow the fitting off. All my best.
I made a crimper from scratch based on the Owens cam design. My problem was always getting the fittings. Eventually I started reusing fittings by crimping ferrules on old fittings I recovered by cutting off the crimped ferrule. Have been wanting to buy a bulk of them from China but I may try the discount hydraulic hose website. So far I have had no hose failures. I test each hose with a setup using a pressure washer as a hydraulic source.
You know i will bet you the first time all them professional made one it didn't turn out right either unless someone was holding there hand and saying wrong wrong wrong.. The thing all these people miss is its for learning and your are showing off what you have come up with so far..( ill bet money all the pro's dont have one at home, cause they can use works to make there hoses.. loss your job and need hoses and then lets see what happens then) All the great tools we have in the world didnt happen over night.. it took many many many times of building one and figuring out what you would do better on the next one.. Lets use (THE LIGHT BULB) HOW MANY WHERE MADE UNTIL HE GOT IT RIGHT.. I just paid $180 for 1 fricken 14 foot ($9 per foot) hose.. so far this month over $500 in hoses that cost less then $100.. I'm looking for a way to cut cost and help my family vs making a great living for the guy at the parts store.. oh and safety has nothing to do with a hose. it has to do with the person doing something they shouldn't be that puts them in harms way.. hoses blow all the time.. Nice video and great learning tool.. thanks it got me pointed in a direction to start thinking
As a DYI guy this is neat but for me just because I like to do it myself. Local Princess Auto crimps for free, so you still have to buy the hose and fittings. No money saved. More for, fast repair by not having to go into town.
I have some of the $20 Tractor Supply hoses. After a few years, they're cracking up and the rubber is failing. The hoses I had custom-made at the auto store and the tractor dealer have been much better.
Seems that there is a big bubble created in the hose end, the crimp area needs to be flat all the way with no bubbles, you are only guarantee that the half of the area is holding the rubber against the metal. with some modification you can improve your machine.
I've been crimping better crimps than yours for 85 years. This crimp isn't correct as I've crimped crimps for a long time, longer than anyone else, ever. I crimp crimps that are the best. I have the best crimps. Just kidding. Cool video man. Keep it up.
Years ago I was the director of Parts and service at Lazy Days RV . We used amazon hose all the time .We also bought a crimper to do it in house .We used to get the hose from GoodYear down town ,Gerry
For future reference dont dip the hose in oil just out a dab on the tip of the fitting.. any oil built up under the fertile has the potential to force the inner to over crimp and collapse or the outer ferrule to not crimp down far enough. Also if those are parker dies there Is a ledge that the ferrule sits on so you know you've crimped enough of the ferrule length
3 to 4 hoses pay for the die(@$57 per hose assembly at the hydraulic shop near me). It also saves me the time to take the hose down to the hydraulic shop, the time to wait on them to make the hose, the drive and the gas back. No argument here if you are only making 1 or 2 hoses. This homemade hose maker has paid for itself over and over with number of hose assemblies(@50 so far) that I have made with it plus a boat load of time saved as well.
No argument from me! I had a look see on eBay and checked prices and they were NOT $57. And the hose ends started around $20. I need 3/4 " for (mostly) for my backhoe. And the swaging fee is only $10 at NAPA so I'll just continue ... sigh. Besides, I have to build a press, another sigh.
I've always wondered how they engineer hydraulic hoses and air conditioners fail on sunday afternoons. Amazing, personally I was wondering if one couldn't use a blacksmith type spring swage to accomplish this crimping of these fittings in an emergency.
Wow... Can't wait for Part 2. I had no idea this could be DIY... Great job ! Make sure you link to some dies, etc. 'cause I've got to build one. I just paid $215 for 3 hoses... Wish I'd have known about this... wonder how much I could have saved. Just a thought... would a wood splitter work as the press, or is the amount of force and travel too critical? I used my splitter one time in a pinch when we needed something "pressed" on... and it worked like a charm...
TexasPrepper2 Thanks. I just got done filming part 2. I didn't like the way it turned out. I will try to put up a better one asap! Check out www.discounthydraulichose.com/default.asp. They have dies and everything. It is indeed quite interesting to find out what you can make your own hoses for. I think that it is an excellent idea to re-purpose your log splitter to "motivate" the crimper. I am not sure of the tonnage required to crimp fittings but, the D100SH crimper from discount hydraulic supply has @ 35 tons capacity. Probably overkill. I am reasonably sure your splitter will do the job with probably the exception of the 2" braided hose fittings. lol
You have built exactly what I need. I have built many things driven by hydraulics & never have the right hose. I could not find the brand of your dies & Colette. Can you share that?
Here is a link to the dies: www.discounthydraulichose.com/d100d165-dies.html I don't have the part # for the pusher ring/colette but, you can call Discount Hydraulic hose direct at 800-535-1302 and they will hook you up. Just make sure you get the pusher ring that matches the dies. I used the D100 dies and the matching D100 pusher ring.
Make. Absolutely certain, the you use the die for each hose, in other words, gates dies for gates hose, parker for parker, etc. also do not ever put gates fittings on anything other than gates hose. They are all engineered for each manufacturers hose to only their fitting.
Nice video, but you need to lower the hose deeper into the die while crimping. You only crimped half of the end. I've seen the ends blow off like that. There should be a built-in stop on the inside of the die.
for 1 and 2 wire hoses you could just use field attach fittings all you need is spanners and for any multispiral hoses you will need to be very accurate or they will blow off 0.2 mm And next time crimp the entire ferrul
Nice project. I think I'd buy the shop press cheep( Harbor freight (mostly junk) and then use you suggested die and fitting and system. thanks for the vid, good job
Mate that's a nifty setup you got. I make hoses for a living in Australia. not sure how often you would be making a hose assembly but I would suggest to you the following. After cutting the hose with a drop saw clean the assembly with something like compressed air and a foam pellet. drop saws leave a large amount of debris inside the hose, imagine all that crap running through your hydraulic system. also to make you life easier make a spacer ring that goes around the dies,that sits on the base of the press to the underside of the pulley thats holding your dies. that way once the pulley bottoms out on the spacer ring it'll be crimped exactly where it needs to be.
I'm wondering how did you clean your hydraulic hoses when you made them? I been watching several other videos on making hoses and now it seems that you have to buy a $900.00+ plug blowing gun kit to shoot cleaning plugs through the hoses, from both ends, so theres no debris in the hose after cutting. Good grief this hose making venture can be extremely pricy and to much for me right now, even the price you was talking about on your crimping die scares me........
I just blow them out with my air compressor, then I spray some brake kleen inside and blow that out as well. I'm sure that is the wrong way to do it but my hoses on my tractor have held up for going on almost 7 years now with no problems in the hydraulics. Use this info at your own risk.
boat6868 Thank you. Basically, when a downward force is applied to the compression ring, the 8 fingers of the die are equally compressed parallel around the fitting to be crimped. I will try to do a better job of explaining and showing in part 2.
Awesome DIY video i was just trying to figure out if there was a way to build one of these... Now i see it can be done!! where did you get your crimping dies from?
The design was based on the D100 crimp dies from DiscountHydraulicHose.com. I used the D100/D105 series compression ring P/N:100849 for those dies as well. Btw, they have good prices on their fittings and hose as well. Tell 'en that the homesteadprepper sent ya! lol
Yeah from all the hydraulic hose crimpers I've used, it looks like you have the die upside-down which is why you're not feeling the stop ridge to properly locate the fitting to the die portion. If yours is designed that way then rock on!
You didn't show anything about the die n chuck. Like did you make the dies or the chuck.? Where did you get the dies or chuck ? Everyone knows what bad hoses look like and the cost of fittings but the point was the dies and chuck.
I was glad to see that you measured your crimp with a caliper, but how do you calibrate your homemade crimper to achieve the proper crimp diameter? In the video, it appears that you just got lucky, and I know from experience (I worked for a hose and fittings company for almost 12 years) that crimps need to be precise. Also, I would like to let you know that you have not crimped that fitting properly. Your crimp does not go all the way to the knurl, and it should. As is, I would not be comfortable using that hose assembly at 4,000 PSI.
+Ken Hutchinson My first attempt on a homemade crimper was not text book( as annotated in the vid) however, successive hose assemblies have been flawless. As a matter of fact, several homemade assemblies have been installed on the old tractor for some time now with no failures. It works for me. And yes, I did get lucky, well sort of on the first one specs. Btw, that was the first hose I have ever crimped.
That is just bad ass ... In the same boat , forklift all hoses need replacing small fortune ! So yes very interested in this set up . Con you get into details on where you found everything to build this. I have a 20 ton press will that work ?
I will leave some links. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-nHkh_ybAsfA.html www.discounthydraulichose.com/ The prices of this stuff has gone up since I posted the video. The crimper was built around a die($189.00) off of a D100 hose crimper and the compression ring back then was only $170.00. A few drops from Tampa Bay Steel, a little persperation and their it is. If you have a lathe, to make the die ring you will come out even cheaper! Some times you can find this stuff on Ebay for cheap.
4998826p I had know way of knowing how far to go. This was absolutely the first hydraulic fitting I have ever crimped so I tried the trial and error method. I got lucky on this first time that it spec'd out correctly on the first attempt but, I did let the fitting slip down too far. On subsequent attempts, I stop short, take a reading and incrementally crimp until I get the proper specs.
I can promise that that bubble crimp is incorrect. Been doing hoses for 21 years and have yet to see a bubble that large. One important bit of advice. When your cutting that hose with a chop saw, make certain your cleaning that hose of particles that will destroy your pumps, valves, and cylinders. Better yet, invest into a blade that is used for primarly cutting hose and use that chop saw for anything other than what you're using it for.
Looked like your crimp was to low, not all the way up to the mark. Hard to do on a homemade machine for sure. And to crimp the right amount. Especially with different size hoses. Thanks for the video. I've made hundreds of hoses for equipment. And your right they are expensive.
Well we were left hanging ! What are the crimper parts and the dies where you get them any part numbers what are they called . What do I look for if I want build your crimper explain please
Thank you for this video, I am just about to start to do it, I have 3/8, 1/2, 3/4 hoses. What crimper die should I buy, I saw different names, but what did you use please?
www.discounthydraulichose.com/hydraulic-hose-crimpers-37465.html and ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-nHkh_ybAsfA.html I bought the D100 3/8" and the pusher ring first and build the rest of it around that.
Do you use the same die for all hose sizes? What model # on the die? Do think an air powered bottle jack would give you precise enough control for this. Thanks.
+P.Melvin Shyturtle Different dies for different hose sizes. The die is a D100-19mm for 3/8 100R2AT SAE hose. I have never used an air powered jack for crimping but, I guess you could give it a try.
wow those old hose are history 4 shure looking forward for part to one question will it also work for propane hose making i need to make some customs leights prepon
donnald bakermd I am uploading part 2 right now. I don't see why you couldn't crimp propane hoses if you are using the correct die, correct fitting/hose, you do it according to the manufacturer's specs/guide lines and you are certified to do so.
Great video..do your think your can make this for sale ..regards if I can get those I can make my own business in MEXICO..THANKS I Will try to do for myself...thanks again.
You only crimped it half way, that will cause the hose to fail prematurely in the best case. Worst case it will pop right off and will injure whoever is in the way. These hoses should always be crimped as instructed by the manufacturer, overcrimping might be worse even because you're causing higher pressure build up at the same time as you have a weaker hose end due to it being overcrimped. Very dangerous. Just do it right or don't do it at all, these things aren't worth messing around with.
+homesteadprepper i want buy 3/8. 1/2. 3/4. crimp die. and the ring die too. i dont live in USA im from sudamerica Ecuador. but. i have family there they can receive it
This is how to get hurt or hurt someone else. Have you ever seen a fitting come flying off the end of a hose, like a bullet. Hose, hose ends and the crimpers are engineered products.
hello , let me ask you a question, im from eCuador sudamerica, and i really like to make a home made hydarulic hose crimper. i can get the hydraulic jack here,and do the metal frame. but need to buy the dies , and the ring that you are using there or some other similar . is that abailable on amazon , so i can order or buy it online???
You can go to www.discounthydraulichose.com 800-535-1302 Give them a call and they can help you get what you need. You must get a compression ring that will match the dies that you are going to use.
Crimp was way to low need to know what your doing before the end blows of and hurts some one every manufacture has different crimp specs its not good to mix match different manufacture products . 10 years of hose making
That was great except you didn't tell us anything about it you just crimped a hose which isn't very helpful to anyone. So I'm guessing you just bought the crimping die and threw it on your shop press and cut a hole in a piece of pipe to set on top? Great idea. Where did you get the crimping die? The rest is pretty self explanatory you're just using a press instead of a dedicated hydraulic pump. I see some specs on the commercial pumps and presses are over 100 tons though. What's that mean for your fittings if you're only using a 30 ton press?
I'm going to ask a dumb question: Can a crimpler for airconditioner hoses also crimp hydraulic hoses? This one bit.ly/1iZLHZz (Mastercool 71550, $150) seems to make a crimp which looks very much like what you're after. If it works, it might be OK for doing a few hoses before your hands cramp up.
+Jeff NME No such thing as a dumb question. I am not familiar with a/c hose crimpers. However, I would surmise that it is probably not compatible with hydraulic hose crimp dies and does not have enough crimping force to properly crimp a 2 wire 4000psi hydraulic hose to its fitting. A/c hoses work at much lower pressures.
+homesteadprepper I wouldn't discount the ability of a hydraulic system to generate the required force. It looks like the crimping dies aren't quite correct (that waffle pattern), but it might work with modified dies.
The Master Kool crimper that you offered to look at will not work for STEEL fittings ... it was designed for Copper or Brass Fittings. But thanks for offering help!!
This is not a how to vid. Try searching for 'how to make hydraulic hoses". I ended up doing wrong in this vid but, it was my first attempt ever for hose making.
Awful crimp nice 👍🏻 video I’ve built similar with various gauges saved couple thousands diy everything and make friends with machinists ppl to dye for ;)
+Judd Cooper I made several hose assemblies for several of my machines that have held together for over 8months now. These hoses are made for my personal use only. Furthermore, hydraulics is not something that you mess around with if you don't have the confidence to do so.
+homesteadprepper I'm a Certified Parker Hydraulic Technician. The fitting you crimped with your press was not good, only 25% of the shell was biting the braid.
+Judd Cooper I guess you did not read the annotation that it was done incorrectly. This was my very first hose crimping experience that I shared here on youtube to show my mistake so others do not screw up like me. If you watch the construction of the hose crimper part 2 you will see where I rectify the problem and make some sucsessful hose assemblies. Part 3 show the hose assemblies working under pressure.
+homesteadprepper I don't need to. The manufacturer of the crimper, hose and fittings must match - no exceptions. You're posting a how to video that is against everything we teach professionally in the hose and fitting industry .
+Judd Cooper I posted a video to show how a motivated individual could make his or her own hoses that are superior and more professional to any trolled up comment that you can make to undermine my successful undertaking. The proof is in the pudding. My hoses work. Here is my suggestion to you: Please send me one of your own personal professionally made hose assemblies so I can test it head to head with one of my homemade hoses to see how it compares( 24 inch with 1/2 NPTF males). I put your hose on my tractor to see how good it is and then I will put one of my homemade hoses on to see how they compare. Make sure you let me know what this hose would cost made by you so I can use that as a comparison as well. I'll even make it a 3way challenge and throw in a Tractor Supply hose assembly as well for testing just to be fair. I will make a video showing the results.
