Cheap Power OR Performance Garage Chat- The New Ford Mustang GT Takes On The Honda Civic Type R!

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( www.alltfl.com/ ) Check out our new spot to find ALL our content, from news to videos and our podcasts! Welcome back to TFL Car Chat! In this episode, Roman and Nathan discuss the similarities and differences of two fast and fun cars, the Honda Civic Type R and the Ford Mustang GT.
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@MoparG_73 Месяц назад

You guys crack me up! Im 50 and will always go with the V8. Just a different feel. Keep up the great work!!

@analogguy5548 Месяц назад

V8 - Front engine - Rear wheel drive - Manual - End of conversation 🤠🇺🇸

@luiscruz-if1sg Месяц назад

Good Morning ☕️ Happy Mother's Day to everybody's mothers

@elizavala4347 Месяц назад

2 cars i would love to have, for 2 entirely different reasons. I do prefer the classic rock one.

@vanashke001 16 дней назад

Oh Roman. I'm pushing over 700 in my 17 supercharged Mustang GT manual. It's completely drivable. I've never had it get away from me, ever. I can get 25 mpg, and it's an absolute blast. This idea that a manual over 500hp is undriveable says more about you. Maybe you're more foot to the floor than I am. But I've got 3.73 gears, and I only break the back end loose when I want to. On stock width Yokohamas, no less. Lol

@brendanlindamood4263 23 дня назад

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="780">13:00</a> pop the hizzle killed me😂😂

@davidholmes1771 11 дней назад

Had to go back and Catch that, it was Subtle! ..I dig it.

@benblakeney7418 Месяц назад

Great show, guys! Thanks for the garage chat.

@markcoopers1930 Месяц назад

The auto mustang might appeal to more buyers in general and make it resell quickly, but it's less appealing for enthusiasts and it will lose out on being sold at a premium to the enthusiasts who want a manual. Remember, it doesn't matter how many people want an auto, it only takes one person to buy the car. It's the same issue with colors. Drab grayscale colors are easier to sell in theory, but buyers can just pick the lowest offer on the several thousand in that color. Get something bright and loud like green or red, less people will be interested but theres going to be someone REALLY excited to have that red and they'll have to come to you and your price point.

@scotturich Месяц назад

Honestly just depends on the case use. I’ve had the Mustang (previous model) regular GT and it was great as a straight line performer but my family didn’t fit in and my track tires were like a jenga puzzle to get in the car. owning the Type R now, I can put my family in it or a set of track tires and as duel purpose car it’s amazing.

@Marbind Месяц назад

Family is what prevents me from having a fast coupe. I have the Integra-S. Love it. Is what I always loved to set up my very old FA5 Si.

@clubracer6 6 дней назад

So which is more fun?

@scotturich Месяц назад

Roman just buy the Integra Type S, old man seats with all the Type R stuff

@FATmenDRIVEtrucks Месяц назад

What these reviewers will never tell you is in the real world the Type R is wayyyyy more expensive. Can get a base 5.0 with discounts for $38k and at times 0% interest. Meanwhile Type R you'll pay $50k and at this time 8% interest. You can do the math but a few hundred month different in pricing. You'll also have to get on your hands and knees at Honda beg to even get that pricing

@TFLtalk Месяц назад

We’ll be happy to tell you that. Have you seen our community pages with viewers sending in crazy market adjustment pricing?

@Marbind Месяц назад

Today is easier to find a CTR at MSRP than months ago. The average is $5K according to a tracking site that lists the inventory. What these reviewers will never tell you is that the only 2024 mustang that out handles CTR is the Dark Horse with the handling pkg. That costs a LOT more than a CTR. The GT Premium with performance pkg and magneride is in the 55K without any other addon. That comes close to a CTR but isn't better. Even the Integra Type S is cheaper. In other words. The GT base is a cool car if you only care to smash the gas pedal to the floor occasionally in straight roads. If you want to take curvy roads with confidence and speed you will have to pay more.

@FATmenDRIVEtrucks Месяц назад

@@Marbind Hey bozo the 🤡 I was just talking price not handling LMAO. I don't care if sucked D to get MSRP for type R either you're disgusting. You want a car that can handle you get the SS1LE not mustang or civic. The mustang is good for making power 1000 hp stock engine. The civic is good for overheating and understeering. No modded Type R or GT can keep up with my stock SS1LE on track period

@Olddahg Месяц назад

Great metaphor Nathan!

@jamesbeaman6337 Месяц назад

FYI, the NASCAR Cup Series cars since last year now use 5 speed sequential manual transaxles with IRS. And, on most of the ovals and of course the road/street courses, they shift on every lap. Just not on the fastest “superspeedway” tracks.

@GeronimoBiggles Месяц назад

I was cross shopping these 2 cars and found a perfect middle ground for the same price after stealership markups. Got the CT4 Blackwing at MSRP and I never looked back.

@Marbind Месяц назад

Depends on what you value more. Lateral forces(CTR) or Longitudinal forces (GT). But if you can afford it you get both. DarkHorse + Handling Pkg

@georgearevalo781 Месяц назад

Performance and power..THE STANG!

@davidholmes1771 11 дней назад

Honda's blue, looks like a.. Shade-off, Laguna Seca- Blue. In other words, I Like it!

@JROC734 Месяц назад

Just get a low mileage GEN6 Camaro SS 1LE, or Mach 1 with the handling package.

@ConfirmedPatriot Месяц назад

Exclusivity is the Type R for sure, unless V8's are outlawed, which won't happen anytime soon.

@drnick40 Месяц назад

Two fantastic engines!

@ericwhatley1537 Месяц назад

Does the mini john cooper works compete against the civic R ?

@joebrito2066 Месяц назад

My son has a 2020 Tacoma that he bought for 35k and 4 years later a dealer was offering him 32k. He didn’t sell it because of the new Tacoma being 55k for a TRD Off-road.

@coryu2403 28 дней назад

Same stats as the eco boost but they give no love to that makes no sense! If you drive the eco boost its hella fun 🤷‍♂️

@ctrfk8740 26 дней назад

Which Honda dealer? msrp? here in cali wants 5k over or more. Thanks.

@Rskitalll Месяц назад

I teetered between the two. Ultimately Mustang won. If it was a daily driver then maybe but Mustang is better than you think once you drive it.

@1FiftyOverland Месяц назад

The screens are pretty upsetting.

@propertypreparedness6846 Месяц назад

I would expect the after market to have gauge clusters that replace the screen behind the steering column. I can’t stand the all digital either.

@nick.i.am97 Месяц назад

And your Mind Very Prehistorical

@Cloud30000 Месяц назад

I prefer what Ram did in 2019, with real analog gauges and a customizable screen in between the gauges as well as a very clear high res 8” screen set lower in the center of the dash outside of the driver’s view (not distracting) but surrounded by physical switches and knobs for everything. I added a phone cradle beside the steering wheel for GPS/map directions so I didn’t have to look over to the screen while driving. Screens can be good if done right, but replacing everything with screens defeats the idea of keeping your eyes on the road and using tactile feel and memory to change things while driving.

@LafemmebearMusic Месяц назад

Y’all need to breath… it’s like your favorite pass time is complaining… it’s so boring, don’t y’all get bored being ornery?

@WhatisaLee Месяц назад

@@LafemmebearMusic Or maybe it's many different people complaining just once.

@nick.i.am97 Месяц назад

Ford Mustang GT for me

@Tony-hf9mv Месяц назад

Blue everyone is trying to copy hydro blue. My RR is velocity Blue which is ford's version Pearl Jam vs Lynyrd skynyrd

@scotturich Месяц назад

Twins GR86/BRZ would be another competitor

@Kahless00 Месяц назад

Worth noting that that type r is significantly more expensive than a Elantra n and base model gr Corolla. For 30+% more money it better be a better track car.

@DragonKnightX12 23 дня назад

Better interior and practically than both of those too.

@M_ann_M Месяц назад

Tommy’s -WIFE?? 😮 When did that happen??

@JamesSusanka Месяц назад

something about the screens on the Mustang just bugs me. it is okay for the entertainment system but the gauge screen bugs me it just looks like they planted a tablet screen on the dash. just not liking it and I want real guages.

@derrickschultz6871 Месяц назад

6-1.... are your legs and torso proportionate? Lol

@christiandrangsholt868 Месяц назад

Ford Mustang GT

@jcw5007 Месяц назад

Checking in from just north of Rockford (glockford).....

@OG_John Месяц назад

Often wrong Roman strikes again. 50.15 stomps around after he says nascars are automatic. Changes topic as Nathan schools him. Should have been Nathan and Cole, Roman on the camera.

@NOXStellans Месяц назад

Add some emojis or something to show humor🙃-Unless you were intentionally being boorish🙄⁉

@marklion315 Месяц назад

Did he say the integra type S has a different powertrain to the Civic type R? You guys need help with your car coverage, thats bad.

@Marbind Месяц назад

Clearly cars aren't their strongest skill. They need someone in the team. Is exactly the same powertrain the only thing that changes is the tune. Acura recommends 93oct. Honda recommends 91oct on their CTR. The Acura tune has a wider powerband. Making more power earlier than the Civic. Also uses less boost thanks to the higher octane calibration.

@toddgoho7162 Месяц назад

Nice comparison, but I cringe every time I see you guys leaning against the cars.

@Gonzo1968 Месяц назад

The infotainment set up with two big screens just glued to the dash,worst design ever! Love mustang but cmon man looks so cheap ! Like the engineers just gave up! Can't be beat for speed bang for your buck!

@jcollins1305 Месяц назад

The screens are AWFUL. It’s a GT Mustang! Put analog dials with a digital cluster for telematics but to have two huge ugly screens in that car kills the vibe for me.

@trey1215 Месяц назад

You m kw this is the base so its two scree mns but the premium has one long one

@jackcobbiii1797 Месяц назад

What happened to the chin on that 24? Needs some force lol

@S650Ryan Месяц назад

Base doesn’t come with splitter. Performance Package and Dark Horse do

@jackcobbiii1797 Месяц назад

@@S650Ryan yeah the 21 base has more chin;)

@JerryCecco Месяц назад

Too bad the tradition Mustang Buyers CAN NOT afford $45k PLUS huge dealer addons getting to $50k

@JerryCecco Месяц назад

BUT please make MORE FREE HYPE videos so dealers THINK they can charge more

@OnederElite Месяц назад

The interior on the Mustang is horrendous!

@JarmelSingsKaraoke Месяц назад

☕1st...Have a good day everybody ✌️

@nlken7175 Месяц назад

As a mid aged man, I love to have a type R but it's a boy racer car. That's why I have a Camaro SS.

@DragonKnightX12 23 дня назад

In this case I would say it's kind of the opposite. The FL5 looks a lot more mature and sleek than it's predecessor. The last Camaro looks it came straight out of Transformers.

@atmartens Месяц назад

Besides for the price, it’s a very hard comparison. The sound of the Mustang is incredible but the tasks of everyday life make the CTR a better choice. The Mustang is basically a 2 seater. Personally, I’d only get the Mustang if I had dumb money and would want something with a V8 and RWD. I’d rather get a Integra Type S because of the styling and luxury features.

@derrickschultz6871 Месяц назад

Most manuals were puchased because the auto was to expensive of an option

@robertopics Месяц назад

Depends back in the day manuals were either for economy or performance. I'm modern cars automatic transmission have erased that deficit and on the really performance oriented you have the dual clutch option