The uphere looks like a great deal but ngl, When I’m cheaping out on a product I don’t want my whole pc going down with it in case it fails. Awesome video man!
also there is a lot of air coolers that are a million times better than the up here AIO in the same price range. for example the cooler master hyper 212 black edition and the be quiet dark rock/dark rock slim.
@@SkyshadowDerg they make some pretty decent stuff. What people don't seem to realize is that the uphere aio isn't supposed to be high end. It's entry level for low power cpu
Dawid Does Tech Stuff You can do a short video update with fans switched from one to the other. Would be really interesting though. May be you have other projects or stuff to do and simply you can’t which I totally understand. Great video! 👍
The uphere looks of questionable quality tho, id rather go somewhere midrange. You definatly dont have to buy the most expensive, but i rather pay a lil more to have a more sturdy looking cooler. I an very fond of ANTEC! Cheap, very durable and sturdy and pretty good performance while being suprisingly silent.
That is a good point. I checked for that, and then tightened it down as far is it would go. The thermalpaste application was also good. I think the cooler just couldn't handle the CPU.
@@mutasimrahman6833 Definitely! I want to do a video comparing it to the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black edition. I have a feeling black edition may do better than expected.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff I have Uphere fans all over four of my computer builds in my house... all of which have a CM Hyper 212 Black Edition cooler for the CPU, and all of which I've replaced the stock CM fan with a Uphere fan for some of that sweet LED case lighting... my personal system is an i7-9700F with the 212 + Uphere fans... idle is around 30c and load temps aren't bad either (usually peaks around 50c under most gaming, though I don't do the AIDA stress tests).
4:08 that is a 12v pump header with 3rd wire for the rpm.. it has no pwm control for the pumps motor. U need the 4pin for pwm signal to the pump controller to regulate the motor pwm directly instead of controlling the pwm voltage that could have huge variations due to all the motors being bldc ..
@@DawidDoesTechStuff yes thats a common mistake. some people believe that 3pin fans r pwm.. i mean they r pwm but the voltage is regulated . where in a 4pin fan 12v would be constant and the fan rpm would be adjusted by the motor controller through the motherboard pwm signal.
@@KuntalGhosh Yeah, the things is all pump headers seem to be 3 pin. That is why it's important to plug them into the AIO header on your motherboard. So that it deals with the connector differently.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff 4 pin header can be set to act like 3pin if u set the fan settings to dc on ur motherboard. cus these r intercompatible stuff thats why they have the same connector . a 4pin fan can be plugged into 3pin or 2pin fan header if needed .
Thank you for this informative video. The cheapest 240 AIO was chosen for comparison, which is completely legitimate, especially since RGB is included. But for just $ 7.49 more investment, you can buy a 240 AIO that offers superior performance, even if it doesn't offer RGB, it has a great design in return. It is the ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 240. A comparison test from this AIO against the KRAKEN X53 would definitely result in a very interesting video.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff Thanks for the response. I am pleased that my proposal was received positively. Wish you steady growth in subscriptions. Stay healthy during this time.
On cheap water cooled builds, you can make up the difference by lapping the CPU and water block to gain around 7° (Celsius that is) and compete with more expensive rigs. I daily an i7 860 overclocked at 4,2GHz (2,8 stock) with a 47$ Enermax water cooler (120mm single fan) mid to low 30's idle temps and mid 80's under stress test. If one is willing to risk delidding and lapping his CPU, it's possible to obtain good results with a dirt cheap AIO.
I used an AIO for quite a while, from October 2014 to March 2021. In it's last days I shorted something out on the motherboard, ended up getting a Dell G5 5000 with an i5 10400f to replace my old computer, got it on Ebay without a GPU for 400, and harvested my 960 from my last, threw it in the Dell G5, workin' well so far :)
Great video all around Dawid!! The quality of your videos is kinda mind blowing. And I think comparing the UpHear to the Hyper 212 should definitely be next 👌🏻😁 😅 and honestly - that ad was entertaining AF.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff Exactly. I have sadly been one of these guys who bought an overpriced laptop not knowing much about pc hardware, but that was some years ago. Now, I could never do the same mistake again (and part of my knowledge comes from this channel ;) ) (And I'm gonna buy a new pc soon)
I managed to score my Corsair H100i V2 from a local Goodwill for less than $50 a couple years ago. All it needed was a $10 mounting bracket for AM4. It's been going strong ever since.
I like the Arctic F12 fans. Especially the white versions, they bounce light very nicely. It makes them look like the colour of most LED strip colours lol
ArtisChronicles I just had one of the black and white ones delivered yesterday. They’re awesome looking and super quiet. I switched from the red and black. (Edit) the bionix p series is what I bought for my freezer 33
Just my personal experience recently, I have used pre applied thermal paste two times, one with a Fractal Design AIO, the other a Corsair AIO, on two different systems last year. I had to apply my own thermal paste both times. Now I make it a point, to apply my own, even if I have to remove the pre-applied paste, even if it was applied from the factory.
I wish the AIOs would point out if they use the factory mother board plastic clips(2points of contact, via tension), or if it was a 4 bolt directly to the motherboard. Ever since my Phenom computer lost its Air cooler (the plastic clip broke) I have not liked that 'hold on tight with tension' design.
You are the perfect blend of hilarious entertainment and genius ideas. I came across your channel about a month ago, and I'm sure glad I did. I know I'm going to be thoroughly entertained before the video even starts. You'll be at 350K subscribers this time next year, then will hit 1 million in 2022. You'll see, just keep at it! Remember this comment in 1.5 years from now, watch how much your channel grows by then :)
you can get the ID Cooling Frostflow x 240mm for 55$. Quality is super impressive for the price, comes with all the mounting brackets you need for any gen of cpu/mobo, nice thick rad, and cools efficiently.
would have been great to talk about the value side of things. I mean yeah, sure, it performs worse than the NZXT stuff, but considering the price tag is 50% lower, could it be still a good alternative? Or maybe compare it with an air cooler coming at the same price tag, to see if it's any worth it to buy it (or only for aesthetics)
I rather have someone test "the obvious" and prove it than people just assuming things and then be proved otherwise. That's why I love your videos, even if it seems like "duh" it's always informative.
9:20 probably the biggest temperature game changer, Kraken FPI is notticeable more dense than the Up Here. I trust NZXT way more of course, but these AIOs are so similar in block construction, the differences usually is a nicer radiator and fans.
But you missed 1 vital question here. As it it twice the price is it twice as good? This is where the budget AIO coolers come into there own. No they are not AS good but when you consider the cost/performance they wipe the floor with the costly products. No they are not as good but they do do a proficient job. You could always buy the uphere cooler and save for the nzxt model later down the line
Take a look at the Arctic Liquid Freezer II series, and get amazed. The 360 model is almost beats my custom loop for quarter the price, and stays absolutely silent.
I have that uphere cooler, or maybe an earlier version from a couple of years ago, and I gotta say it's not impressive. It keeps a Ryzen 2600 in the low 70s when overclocked while remaining virtually silent, but when I upgraded to a 3800x I realized it performed roughly equivalent to the stock wraith prism cooler. It did so at much lower noise levels, yes, but increased fan speed did not improve performance so it was pointless to introduce the noise. It doesn't seem to be able to transfer heat from the CPU to the radiator well at all. I took the cold plate off and it looked decent, so I think the issue must be a very, very weak pump. It wasn't the worst purchase, but I can't really say I recommend it for just about anyone. If you want a cheap AIO I think there are probably better budget options out there. Edit: I forgot to mention that I do currently have Corsair ML120 fans on the cooler, so if the included fans were the issue I would know. It's just not a great cooler.
I used the UpHere fpr rughly 3 years until it got some air in the system. It's actually not that bad for the price and it's not that loud. You can rake off the plastic cover of the pump and orient the logo the way you want. It's obviously not the best, but there is much worse on the market.
@@blank.7253 well my 1 fan onew from 2014 broke within 2 years, got a new on warranty and that still works. But I guess it was a known issue. since they had updated the model pretyy fast after release.
Dawid Does Tech Stuff I didn’t because I had bought a 120mm version that was only $40 so I didn’t even bother, I swapped it for a used Hyper 212 and even with the poor mounting bracket still caused less stress than that aio
I actually have the UpHere 120 AIO that i got off of Amazon for $40 like 6 months ago. I've had it on an AMD FX8350 and now have it on a Ryzen 2700X. I have not had any problems with the temps with either processor at just 65C under load on the FX8350 and 70C on the Ryzen 2700X. I will be up grading it when I have the money, but for now it works just fine for what I do.
You should try lapping the surface of the uphere cooler. maybe it will have better results. I mean it would only cost like $3-$5 for the wet sand paper.
By a stroke of luck do you still have those noctua orange antivibration pads that came with the NH-U12S black edition? Because if you do, I'd pay money to have them, I am that desperate for them.
this cooler is an OEM version of a kraken or corsair cooler. Remember, there is 1 pump/res/thermal plate patent holder which prevents anyone from selling AIOs without paying them a license fee.
Dawid you gotta realize not everyone wants to go for the high end upgrades, if they work that’s what matters. There are plenty of budget setups out there that still perform well.
9700K immediate thermal throttle? Could be the pump is just terrible. More likely mounting pressure too low or what I had happen to me once was the thermal paste cracked under the IHS and wasn’t making contact anymore causing immediate overheat. Although that has STIM I do believe, don’t know if that can happen with STIM, but liquid metal can need reapplied if it’s been delidded
Another great vid. An interesting comparison would be a mid range cooler vs the NZXT. I bet it would be a lot closer to the NZXT to the point you could have a conversation about whether that extra money for an NZXT is worth it.
Yeah no surprise here with the results. As an aside I've been playing World of Warships since Beta and really enjoy it. Glad to see them pony up a little sponsorship for you.
my corsiar h55 is over 10 years old now and been running a overclocked fx8350. and shows no signs of giving up. i might even keep it when i do a ryzen build
Yeah, ID-COOLING is amazing for the price, and if you want the ARGB one, the ZOOMFLOW is only 10 dollars more expensive on the 240MM model. Good choice, Zealous! 😁👍
I have Arctic freezer ii liquid 240mm and I'm very happy with performance per price. The only thing I don't like is the mounting mechanism with an embedded small fan that gives a lot of noise. I got it for 70 USD in Bulgaria so in the USA should have been around 60 USD max. Now I see it's 95 USD in newegg, so price has risen.
Those Uphere fans are just standard case fans... they're not special for the AIO... I know, because I have multiple computers decked out in Uhphere case fans... I even use Hyper 212 Black CPU Coolers with the fans switched out to Uphere fans on the 212 radiator... (cuz you know... those Blue & Green LED fans are awesome). My temps are fine with Hyper 212 + Uphere case fans (and I am cooling an i7-9700 on one of my builds). Never tried an AIO though.
Personally I think I’ve You’re gaming on a budget (I’d assume so If you’re buying the upHere AIO) just get a hyper 212. You can find one for about $40 and it has great performance. Just a word of advice for anyone seriously considering the upHere product. I recently bought fans from upHere and they work fine. They’re nothing special but they work. Not dissing the company just this product.
My Up Here has been going solid for a year now, no issues and keeps my 2600 nice and cool under load. I am mighty temped to get the Galahad however as it has such good reviews and a great company standing behind it.
The quality of the pump and the fins design on the copper plate matters a lot. Also, the fans on NZXT are very good at cooling and their only problem is the noise. Vardar's are not really "badass" except the name :D I gave mine to my nephew because they are not very great. Badass fans for cooling with the lowest noise are the Gentle Typhoon and Noctua. I kept 3 of each in push-pull because I couldn't decide which is better.
240Mill master liquid lire from cooler master is 55$, no RGB, no LED's, but it keeps a 3930k overclocked to 4.5 at 60°c and thats after stressing under full load.
Maybe a follow up with 360mm AIO since the new CPUs are running hot and TDP expectations are wild. I was looking for ID Cooling 360mm since their 240mm did well with Steve on Nexus Gamers. Plus I like the styling of the ID Cooling 240 AIO, no RGB and pump has a soft white glow. I would love a NZXT but can't see myself spending $300 on it.
I think I'd check the flatness of the block on the Uphere cooler. The fact that it's so far off the NZXT and how poorly it did with the Intel seems to indicate that it's not getting a good mount or interface with the IHS on the CPUs. You could try doing a mount with the block after spreading a thin layer of thermal compound evenly over the IHS and looking at the pattern after pulling it back off. Yeah, I know, it won't alter the fact that it's still not that great but it would explain if the block is just that poor in design (thermally speaking) or if the issue is from poor fitment.
I bought Deepcool Captain 240 which is pretty much exactly in the middle of the $ range and it is good - way better than one end, not quite as good as the other. Wow, who knew - you get what you pay for. (Usually!) I view Dawid’s niche as looking for the exceptions to the rule - and the humour of the really crap ones! Keep up the good work, I love your sense of humour!
I have two X53 coolers in my rig. One is on a 9900K and the other is on a 2080TI via a G12 bracket. They are great coolers But, much of that depends on the cam software that you need to install. It defaults to Silent, and thats not great, and sometimes the settings don't persist after reboot. But, once you get the hang of their software and how to set your fan curves and lighting, they are pretty great.
The artic freezer aio r one of the best performing liquid coolers on the market plus they r prices pretty cheap. The 240mm version is about £60 seen it as low as £49.99 and outperforms even the NZXT Aio. Arctic Freezer 34 Duo is only £38 and performs or even outperforms some 240mm aios like the Corsair H100v2 240mm Aio.
Darn, I really thought he was going to throw us a curve ball this time. Every episode I get set up to catch that surprise and nope, it's exactly what I expected, lol.
