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A new mini PC from Beelink!
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@matthewhilty4209
@matthewhilty4209 3 месяца назад
The best part about a Wendell review is that he answers the questions I have about a product before I ask the question. The "what abouts" are addressed right away.
@Crustenscharbap
@Crustenscharbap 3 месяца назад
11:12 this is because Beelink is using a massive 110mm fan. Its moving about 2-3x more air without more noise.
@ewenchan1239
@ewenchan1239 3 месяца назад
Mini PCs are just kicking ass lately!!! Sooo many options!
@Eric_Wolfe-Schulte
@Eric_Wolfe-Schulte 3 месяца назад
Every time Wendell laughs like a mad scientist God makes a kitten. We need more kittens in this world.
@CreativityNull
@CreativityNull 3 месяца назад
As much as I want to agree with you, ecologically I can't. "House" cats (to differentiate them from the various species of wild cats) cause a huge problem for other animal populations. They're technically an invasive predator in most environments they exist in.
@Eric_Wolfe-Schulte
@Eric_Wolfe-Schulte 3 месяца назад
@@CreativityNull for the record, I don't actually think we need more kittens in the world. Outdoor cats decimate songbird populations and are at extremely high risk for contracting bird flu. Too many cats in shelters already.
@CreativityNull
@CreativityNull 3 месяца назад
@@Eric_Wolfe-Schulte but they're *so damn CUTE!*
@Collin_J
@Collin_J 3 месяца назад
Damn, that's a solid bios
@jonathan1991z
@jonathan1991z 3 месяца назад
right? for a grey and blue bios it is.
@nadtz
@nadtz 3 месяца назад
Been noticing the Linux thing myself, lots of people out there really unhappy with Windows 11 even before the whole recall fiasco.
@BrunodeSouzaLino
@BrunodeSouzaLino 3 месяца назад
Considering the amount of Mini PCs Wendell has been doing recently, you could say he's ETA Prime without the unnecessary shilling.
@ewenchan1239
@ewenchan1239 3 месяца назад
I would take Wendell's reviews of mini PCs over ETA Prime's any day. ETA Prime rarely talks about the cons of the systems he reviews (everything is always great, which is a statistical impossibility), whereas Wendell will call things out as it comes.
@abavariannormiepleb9470
@abavariannormiepleb9470 3 месяца назад
Come on dear manufacturers, release such a product with support for unbuffered ECC SO-DIMMs.
@Cynyr
@Cynyr 3 месяца назад
Are there even unbuffered DRR5 SODIMMs?
@BoraHorzaGobuchul
@BoraHorzaGobuchul 3 месяца назад
@@Cynyr yes there are
@abavariannormiepleb9470
@abavariannormiepleb9470 3 месяца назад
Yes, up to 48 GB per SO-DIMM as DDR5-5600 ECC (for example Kingston KSM56T46BD8KM-48HM).
@namyun2743
@namyun2743 3 месяца назад
You are looking in the wrong space. If you want ECC, you really need to look into the server/workstation market and expect to pay their markup. Retail consumers products won't give you ECC.
@phobosspoof
@phobosspoof 3 месяца назад
@@namyun2743that’s not necessarily true anymore, at least for AMD, they’ve recently (past 4-5 months) had product launches with their OEMs like asrock and the like for their 2U ‘hyperscaler’ equivalent platforms to have support for the Ryzen series and not limiting it to the Epycs. To me that means these newer Ryzen APU’s will have the support as well since the microcode within the Ryzen CPU counterpart doesn’t need to have that capability turned off to enable it to become a more thermal power restricted integrated system.
@codeman99-dev
@codeman99-dev 3 месяца назад
Seems reasonable. I'm still not completely sold on this form-factor for heavy usage. That said, BeeLink has done an excellent job of testing the market response of their products.
@TheHackysack
@TheHackysack 3 месяца назад
I got the SER6 Pro last year. Unfortunately, my experience with it was pretty bad all around. I had a handful of problems that were dealbreakers for me (such as mysteriously not being able to use 2 monitors, even though it has 3 outputs?). I was going to send it back, but I gifted it to my dad for his birthday, since the things that were problems for me, weren't problems for him (he only uses a single monitor, etc.). It was my first small form factor purchase, and it will be my last one for a while. To be perfectly clear, I'm not saying it's a bad piece of hardware. I still use it from time to time, when I'm doing routine updates and whatnot for my dad (since that's beyond his knowledge). It's a fine little machine. It was just very specific problems I encountered. I'm glad others like theirs, though.
@theglowcloud2215
@theglowcloud2215 3 месяца назад
Now that Intel sold off NUC to Asus, it'd be cool if a company with some legitimacy started making mini PCs to compete with the no-name Chinese brands like Beelink. A Framework mini PC would be cool (and carry a price premium, I'm sure). The QC on these Alibaba mini PCs will never be particularly great.
@mmstick
@mmstick 3 месяца назад
I connected this model to a 4K 144 Hz display and a 4K 60 Hz display, on Linux. No issues there.
@dansanger5340
@dansanger5340 3 месяца назад
Looks like they pulled back a little on the IO vs. the SER7, which has a couple more USB ports in back.
@vicheaterx
@vicheaterx 2 месяца назад
You can run them, you just can't train them unless you hook up a 4080/4090 over Oculink, which would be a crappy move.
@TheGrizz485
@TheGrizz485 3 месяца назад
This is a fine Mini PC. but for almost half the price you can get a 7840HS "ES" one from Genmachine . its about %10 slower than this since its using an engineering sample. You can still overclock it though. paid $330 for 32gb/512gb from AE.
@brunosardine1
@brunosardine1 3 месяца назад
it is the year of the linux desktop.
@DJDocsVideos
@DJDocsVideos 3 месяца назад
I run Linux and KDE as my desktop since 1998.
@radeksparowski7174
@radeksparowski7174 3 месяца назад
you should directly compare it with a full blown desktop pc, f.e. if somebody runs a ryzen 5700 with some obsolete dedicated video card and this one, is it a upgrade worth going for? performance vs noise vs space saving vs power consumption, as we know desktop cpus as well as gracas have other power limitations than basically what we have in a laptop or nuc like device /soldered cpu+crippled gpu+ oftens soldered ram/ so compare this device on standard settings /expo set to what the ram is capable/ with the desktop - to answer are we there yet? a box sized like 3 CD/DVDs are equal or better as midrange full grown desktop from 4ish years ago
@MikeBob2023
@MikeBob2023 3 месяца назад
Thank you, Wendell! 👍🏼
@dallasangler
@dallasangler 3 месяца назад
VESA mount not included? Fine by me, good cost cut.
@user-ic6xf
@user-ic6xf 3 месяца назад
I can't wait until Mini PCs can run 70B LLMs... hopefully in less than 5 years.
@vellorenitin
@vellorenitin 2 месяца назад
Some people are reporting trojan software built in, I don't know if it's baked into BIOS or just in the windows . Can someone please verify if that's true?
@AgentLokVokun
@AgentLokVokun 3 месяца назад
These make excellent VESA mounted eMachines for people or your media center. Much cheaper then a laptop that grandma or dad dosent take anywhere!
@DJDocsVideos
@DJDocsVideos 3 месяца назад
So like the gmktec nucbox k8 but only one 2.5 Gbit Ethernet port and a slower SSD plus Alu case. Edit: K8 comes with Win 11 Pro (no bloat, no trojans). Under Linux everything worked out of the box on KUbuntu 24.04, Debian (Bookworm) and Garuda Linux (Arch based) Gaming performance was slightly better under Garuda for everthing I tested (Total War: Warhammer III, Stellaris, Baldur's Gate III) then on Win 11. Machine runs as OpenMediaVault NAS with Jellyfin, PiHole an Nextcloud in docker Containers. A ICY BOX 4 bay JBOD USB HDD encloser (IB-3640SU3) with 4 x 20TB Toshiba Enterprise MG10ACA20TE in 3+1 SnapRAID configuration for media storage and a Samsung 980 Pro (Heatsink) 2TB SSD drive as dedicated storage for Nextcloud. Note: BIOS looks exactly like on my K8
@plonk420
@plonk420 3 месяца назад
man, i saw Beelink mini PCs on their way from my Amazon FC to another recently :O
@Retr0Jesus316
@Retr0Jesus316 Месяц назад
I cannot access any of these options in the bios seems they locked it down since the video
@michaeldonaghy4703
@michaeldonaghy4703 3 месяца назад
My wifi is terrible, the 5800h sat right beside it is fine, maybe the metal case, only way i have any download speed is use a mobile hotspot on the other device but its still only four metres from the router.
@TenFoot
@TenFoot 3 месяца назад
Welcome back!🎉
@sativagirl1885
@sativagirl1885 3 месяца назад
smart Integrators will put several pcie slots for either storage or #NPU cards.
@jenesuispasbavard
@jenesuispasbavard Месяц назад
I wish there were more mini PCs with at least a 10Gb ethernet port, or SFP+.
@Whalerguy
@Whalerguy 3 месяца назад
Had pretty good luck with beelink but I had one arrive doa today.
@JG-nm9zk
@JG-nm9zk 3 месяца назад
I think its time to upgrade my parents home theater pc. They are currently running an i7-2710Q in an industrial mini ITX motherboard. Its done its time.
@lukaszborek3016
@lukaszborek3016 3 месяца назад
Reddit says it's overheats, Basically SER7 in smaller case, tough.
@craigd9305
@craigd9305 3 месяца назад
I wondered about this when I saw they don't have the vents on the 2 sides like the previous models do. This one looks nice, but not worth it to me if it runs hot.
@Coldfirebe
@Coldfirebe 3 месяца назад
Wendell...did you lose a lot of weight ? If it's the case or not, looking great man !
@TigonIII
@TigonIII 3 месяца назад
I believe I heard him saying he's been dieting for like a year now, Linus even gave him some new clothes/merch at the last LTX, because he noticed how much weight he's lost.
@BoraHorzaGobuchul
@BoraHorzaGobuchul 3 месяца назад
All that walking at computex must've paid off. I remember being there, the only times I walked more was during my childhood hikes with my folks.
@aravindpallippara1577
@aravindpallippara1577 3 месяца назад
He had a tick bite which caused him not to be able to digest meat protein, I think he is ok now but still keeping up with the recovery diet
@BoraHorzaGobuchul
@BoraHorzaGobuchul 3 месяца назад
@@aravindpallippara1577 some entrepreneuring soul should look into using there them ticks as a weight loss product then. Will have to ensure they don't pass any infections, but the change in this case is very observable and looks too be for the better. Silver lining?
@wwShadow7
@wwShadow7 3 месяца назад
$650 pass. Mostly because of low ram. I have a 2yo system76 5700u system with 64GB of ram. When I need to compile laptop specific extras, it takes all of 10 minutes from a ramdisk. Or over an HOUR if done on a different 2017 laptop on a USB stick. Or needing to redo sudo passwords 3x times on a usb stick on the system76 laptop, 30-ish minutes. 30-ish minutes of monitoring it and pushing enter for the next verify. Definitely not a right before I go to work task without the ramdisk.
@yellowisthemellow
@yellowisthemellow 3 месяца назад
Looking at the average unboxing for a mini-pc it really isn't much of a wonder how malware ends up on them. No physical anti-tamper seals, no tear open packaging, and various marketplace re-sellers. If you think you could re-package hardware and sell it as new then you should always treat the software as if it were used.
@BoraHorzaGobuchul
@BoraHorzaGobuchul 3 месяца назад
You're going too deep. The malware is usually set up at the origin point with the most likely counterfeit windows install, whether it is intentional or unintentional is another question, most likely it just happens kinda by itself )
@WhiteError37
@WhiteError37 3 месяца назад
I think really a laptop is still the best form factor with a decent dock. Back in the day there was a true difference between a desktop and a laptop. Don’t get me wrong there still is but the computing power we can fit into a small form factor is astounding to what it used to be. The first PC I built (following a video from tech syndicate) was a huge Corsair obsidian tower and looking at what my laptop can do now compared to that machine is really impressive. Anyone know what the best way of recycling old tech is? That Tower PC is just sitting there now as I have a new build and no idea what to do with this old behemoth!
@crxtasy12
@crxtasy12 2 месяца назад
I would like to see how Ollama runs on this?
@a_spire
@a_spire 3 месяца назад
is this based of the asrock sbc that was released recently?
@packetauditor
@packetauditor 3 месяца назад
Linux happenings are exciting! I recently moved away from Windows and am so happy with Linux.
@boneappletee6416
@boneappletee6416 3 месяца назад
Which distro you running?
@packetauditor
@packetauditor 3 месяца назад
@@boneappletee6416 EndeavourOS (Arch), Plasma 6.1 Beta, Wayland, Nvidia 555.52.04 Beta, 5900x/3080.
@packetauditor
@packetauditor 3 месяца назад
​@@boneappletee6416 EndeavourOS (Arch), Plasma 6.1 Beta, Wayland, Nvidia 555.52.04 Beta, 5900x/3080.
@packetauditor
@packetauditor 3 месяца назад
@@boneappletee6416 EndeavourOS
@goblinphreak2132
@goblinphreak2132 3 месяца назад
I am curious the max memory supported on these.... you should try to install 96gb (48gb times 2) and see if it runs and works. ive been (ignorantly?) been running LM Studio on my 7840hs mini pc and I get about 10 tokens a second. with 32gb memory I am pretty much limited to LLMs that are about 29gb or less. And they do run! slow (1-10 tokens a second) but still. I wanted to run larger models but sadly not enough ram to do so.... I wanna try to run a 70b model and 96gb of ram would make it fit. sure answers will take a few minutes to populate.... not worried about speed. just capacity.
@mmstick
@mmstick 3 месяца назад
It works, but Kingston's 64 GB 5600 MT/s CL40 kit is a better value because it's 10% faster for almost half the cost.
@progressivenetwork3584
@progressivenetwork3584 3 месяца назад
When will we se😢e 1tb ram 10 tb HD and 64 cores in a mini pc
@ericwood3709
@ericwood3709 3 месяца назад
That is what the Mac mini should have been in the pre-Arm era. I wish Apple would have worked with AMD, at least after Ryzen came out.
@KingHarkinian-yz6fh
@KingHarkinian-yz6fh 3 месяца назад
"The only improvement is about AI" I swear I'm just going to end up doing a meme video about AI.
@ryannaylor3398
@ryannaylor3398 3 месяца назад
How about crucial 96 GB DDR5 48 GB dimms😊
@kristopherleslie8343
@kristopherleslie8343 3 месяца назад
Almost 300 bucks
@oscarcharliezulu
@oscarcharliezulu 3 месяца назад
So I’m curious why don’t they make it a bit bigger and have an internal pico psu? Like a Mac mini? Is it cost?
@DJDocsVideos
@DJDocsVideos 3 месяца назад
it's an unnecessary heat sorce plus there's more then enough laptop PSUs on the market that work just fine for this kind of machines. Crapple just does it so you can pay out your ass if there mini fries the PSU.
@avalagum7957
@avalagum7957 3 месяца назад
I'll wait until the SER5 16GB ram is < $200
@Mackcolak-xf5bk
@Mackcolak-xf5bk 3 месяца назад
What, 3GBps ssd is nothing special, nothing bad? Sir, it's more than enough for any use case. Please remember that not long ago we had 100MBps HDDs and were somehow satisfied with them.
@danieloberhofer9035
@danieloberhofer9035 3 месяца назад
True, but "somehow satisfied" is pushing it. I'd say we "made due", but the second SSDs with at least bearable capacity (in my case 60GB) became available at a price I could stomach (in my case € 300,-), I kissed the spinning rust as a boot drive goodbye. Didn't regret it for a second.
@Mackcolak-xf5bk
@Mackcolak-xf5bk 3 месяца назад
@@danieloberhofer9035 True, but there is almost no difference in load times in apps or games for 500MBps drives and 3GBps drives. One would appreciate those speeds mostly when copying from one high-speed SSD to another high-speed SSD over the highest-speed link. To be frank, how often does that happen and how often does that matter whether it is copied in 20 seconds or in the 10 seconds timeframe.
@Stance1988
@Stance1988 2 месяца назад
-.- he is simply stating that its a pcie 4.0 ssd with 3.0 speeds which is absolutely not impressive for a 4.0 ssd. thats a fact not an opinion.
@TheLinkedList
@TheLinkedList 3 месяца назад
With the Snapdragon Elite just around the corner, I'd be hesitant on getting one of these hot running mini-pcs
@BoraHorzaGobuchul
@BoraHorzaGobuchul 3 месяца назад
Something tells me the greatness of SD is overhyped. It might well go the way of the previous windows arm tablets...
@DangoNetwork
@DangoNetwork 3 месяца назад
I need one 16 core with 10G NIC
@aflury
@aflury 3 месяца назад
An 8845HX "MS-02" would be neat.
@packetauditor
@packetauditor 3 месяца назад
The dream.... Planning on a BD790i with a 10G NIC for my homelab refresh.
@packetauditor
@packetauditor 3 месяца назад
@@aflury I believe it will be the 9945HX, and I hope Minisforum does a BD990i with it. To be fair the BD790i is already great.
@markw365
@markw365 3 месяца назад
Link in description is a 404. :)
@373323
@373323 3 месяца назад
Linux is awesome
@aflury
@aflury 3 месяца назад
Isn't the NPU in the 8845HS insufficient for Copilot+? Bummer if it's already obsolete, but I wonder what else it can do.
@nadtz
@nadtz 3 месяца назад
It's already been shown copilot+/recall work with less than 40 tops, obviously it will be slower though.
@BoraHorzaGobuchul
@BoraHorzaGobuchul 3 месяца назад
Some will see it as a bonus
@RobBCactive
@RobBCactive 3 месяца назад
The GPU TOPS should aid it, the NPU is there for battery life, quiet, cool operation.
@user-fo3so9wd2o
@user-fo3so9wd2o 3 месяца назад
Ser8 good! Me ser7 ...
@TheLoki1983
@TheLoki1983 3 месяца назад
Can this play borderlands 3 at 1080?
@hydroponicgard
@hydroponicgard 3 месяца назад
99% chance that it does not... It's too underpowered, unless you use external GPU, then, maybe?
@TheLoki1983
@TheLoki1983 3 месяца назад
@@hydroponicgard a rx580 can at 60hz at 1080 most of the time. How does this compare to that?
@mattrogers6646
@mattrogers6646 3 месяца назад
​@@TheLoki1983The iGP (780M) is about equivalent to GTX1650. Hope that helps.
@aravindpallippara1577
@aravindpallippara1577 3 месяца назад
​@@mattrogers6646I would hazard closer to 1660 with good memory
@supabass4003
@supabass4003 3 месяца назад
TROGDORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
@ProjectSmithTech
@ProjectSmithTech 3 месяца назад
Am I the only one who hates 2.5gb Ethernet? Either make it 10gb or don't charge me for 2.5gb. I'm not going to use it.
@Bajicoy
@Bajicoy 2 месяца назад
You are definitely the minority. Most homes and buildings are not wired for 10gb ethernet. Might be nice to have but most people don't have that much data to move in a rush. I'd rather have a USB4 port which is more versatile.
@XeonProductions
@XeonProductions 3 месяца назад
They copied the Geekom A7/A8, which copied the Mac Mini.
@LouisDuran
@LouisDuran 3 месяца назад
really this is not any better (in CPU benchmarks) than a Core Ultra 7 thin and light laptop I have. And this is in a larger form factor with presumably better cooling.
@RobBCactive
@RobBCactive 3 месяца назад
Not at the same power, Meteor Lake generally uses more watts for the same performance and compares poorly at low TDP. The most favourable comparison I've seen was with MTL at 65W TDP and with some tests that included quicksync and emphasized office productivity integration.
@Bareego
@Bareego 3 месяца назад
already can't stand AI, not going to buy anything with that stuff in it, heaps of cheap older machines out there. I'm exploring mini PCs in the opposite direction, going for the lowest power that can be VESA mounted behind the monitor and still be enjoyable as a desktop on linux. Waiting for a 2C/2T celeron machine that cost $50 shipped.
@Cynyr
@Cynyr 3 месяца назад
A dell WYSE 3040?
@hmurchison8123
@hmurchison8123 3 месяца назад
It's "Al You Minium " signed your friend across the pond.
@BoraHorzaGobuchul
@BoraHorzaGobuchul 3 месяца назад
Tomatoe - tomahto...
@stclaws9580
@stclaws9580 3 месяца назад
i hate to figure out is it "l" or "I" letter )
@BoraHorzaGobuchul
@BoraHorzaGobuchul 3 месяца назад
@@stclaws9580 new marketing opportunities! "Our notebook shells are made of AI-uminium, making it more AI than our competition!"
@mattrogers6646
@mattrogers6646 3 месяца назад
​​@@stclaws9580Agreed, I hate Sans Serif fonts for that exact reason, but they seem to be default on so many OSes, UIs, and Apps.
@archidube
@archidube 2 месяца назад
I wish the stupid logo could be peeled off.
@abertj.7365
@abertj.7365 21 день назад
Geekbench is not a stress test like Cinebench 23 or 2024. It's not representative of anything and not comparable to other computers. So... drop it altogether and instead of making Bla Bla Blas review run some Cinebench 23, 2024 tests!!! 👎👎
@TerminalWorld
@TerminalWorld 3 месяца назад
Stop adding those annoying fake sounds....
@SuperMari026
@SuperMari026 3 месяца назад
It's too bad these units are not suited for enterprise usage. The OS license will never be in your possession on these units and Beelink can't guarantee ownership.
@kristopherleslie8343
@kristopherleslie8343 3 месяца назад
What
@SuperMari026
@SuperMari026 3 месяца назад
@@kristopherleslie8343 as an enterprise you cannot own the windows license
@mmstick
@mmstick 3 месяца назад
Enterprises manage their own licenses.
@SuperMari026
@SuperMari026 3 месяца назад
@@mmstick buying your own license after purchasing a batch seems less ideal
@mmstick
@mmstick 3 месяца назад
@@SuperMari026 Enterprises aren't using random licenses on retail PCs. They use volume licensing.
@Angry_Old_Man_In_Pain
@Angry_Old_Man_In_Pain 3 месяца назад
Chinese 'Junk o' The Month". Next month they won't be making it anymore and there'll be something newer.
@Bob_Smith19
@Bob_Smith19 3 месяца назад
And a month after that the laptop cooler in it will fail and you can’t replace it. You now have e-waste.
@annebokma4637
@annebokma4637 3 месяца назад
And when you decide to source all your parts and want nothing made in china... Oh wait 😂
@mattrogers6646
@mattrogers6646 3 месяца назад
Suit yourself. Beelink is one of the best miniPC brands in the market, second only to Minisforum. I regularly buy their SER5 5560U with 16GB DDR4 and 512GB-1TB NVMe for $230-$240 because I can't beat the value. Still haven't found anything better for individuals needing a sub-$250 desktop with USB4, HDMI, and DP outputs, with at least 2 USB-C ports.
@kristopherleslie8343
@kristopherleslie8343 3 месяца назад
@@mattrogers6646just got my first one today looking forward to the boot up on Monday
@Angry_Old_Man_In_Pain
@Angry_Old_Man_In_Pain 3 месяца назад
@@mattrogers6646 I might agree with you that these might be the best Chinese junk, but the way they create these machines every month, post the drivers and then close shop, never to be seen or updated again, is a bad idea when you need support. I don't mind these enfluencers taking their money and doing these spots, but I don't take them seriously and would never buy any of these. You take a chance every time you buy Chinese products. You have to admit to yourself that the purchase is a gamble and the odds are with you that it will work, and maybe last for a while, but if it fails, it's money completely lost.
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