Chet Holmgren Gets Real About Victor Wembanyama and Rookie of the Year 

Because they are really 2 super smart and mature people regardless of age.

Because they arent with a certain culture that has infested the league in 03

Y’all notice that too?

Wemby, tem QI elevado. Ele é o jovem que mais rápido pegou informações do popovich . Chet, desde sempre ele sabia que estaria na liga se preparou para esse momento ( além dele ter 22 anos)

I love how everybody went like "they really hate each other, they focus on each other during the game, blah blah blah" when they are both super chill, really respect each other and seem pretty friendly to each other (wemby presented his parents to chet, this is not the typical thing enemies who hates each other would do)

I wouldn’t say that definitively just yet, but you might be right.

No...

Delusional man

Cap

​@@akinpounds Maybe not but Wembanyama is still way better. He's more athletic, mobile, better defender, better skill sets. Only thing Chet has got over him is the three point shot. I guarantee Chet wouldn't average Wembanyama's numbers in San Antonio as the first option. Maybe closer to it, but not exactly.

We got Stephon castle in the making 🔥 prob start pg next year ngl

@@2ClutchCee Thank you for one of the only sane comments on this topic. Much respect. You are 100% correct. Wemby is the better overall player but they really were so tight for the first few months. Different skill sets and different situations. Both are a treat to watch and are only going to get better. That’s what’s so crazy. This was their FIRST YEAR as pros. Amazing future for both.

How many more wins you got with cant move benyana?

I’m an okc fan and I agree w everything you said. I’m just glad we got rid of giddey so I don’t have to hear “alien vs predator” jokes anymore lol

wemb is a highlight hooper media owns your brain lol

Because it's called being courteous

Because it was early on in the season, in terms of pure betting odds.

I know right? They’re trying to milk this thing just for content. They can’t change my mind that Wemby is ROTY.

chet still had a great year and undoubtedly was 2nd

@@scrappy3838 unanimously 2nd in the race. Wemby was miles ahead of him. He cemented that award since December last year.

i would love him to say some shit so wemby will have more motivation lol, i dont doubt wemby's motivation to be better but adding some fuel to it would be fun he has that kind of mentality to be the best player

Agreed. He gave them nothing and called them all 'actors'

Y'all do know who Richard Jefferson and Channing Frye are?, right?

Chet averaged 16 as a 3rd option Wemby averaged 21 as a first option

@@SosaA11 Wemby was also the sole primary offensive player with all the attention on him with his starting PG being Jeremy Sochan for 30 games and Tre Jones for the rest who's nothing more than a good back-up PG. So no, I don't think Chet would have averaged as much as Wemby, let's also not forget defensively Wemby is better than Chet as well. Overall Wemby is just a much better player.

@@SosaA11wemby did that on less than 30 min a game

​@@SosaA11 Chet wouldn't average the same or better stats on the Spurs as first option though. That's the point.

@@SosaA11 Wemby was the only one being consistent on the offense so your point makes no sense.

I think he understands that; he's got the rizz to go way beyond sports, and towards a Strahan type of gig.

@@tyn6211dude just said rizz to describe an analyst

Yeah wemb is at best porzingis nothing special

He has my respect. Majority of the time has great takes and doesnt take himself too seriously

@@asahno3341 rizz is short for charisma. analysts can have charisma

Talking about what? 😂

If someone has to say it’s not close, it usually means it’s pretty close.

@@colesmith193it wasn’t close when Chet kept getting bodied by him

@@SmallWRLDS Thunder and Spurs played 3 times and OKC won all 3 by an average score of 26. Get off the pipe.

Facts 😂😂😂

Yeah, they are trying soooo hard to make him let down a hot take that they would be so proud to extract from its context and put on headlines. But the kid is smart and did not fall in the trap.

@@BonnisseurDeLaBath it will always be a cat and mouse game

Respect. Chet’s a dog too. Him, Jdub and SGA is a problem. As a spurs fan I hope we can get have that badass of a lineup😂

Wemby is overrated in my eyes. Winning matters

@@henryslatt9041he’s a rookie on a bad team what do you expect. It’s a team game

@@deboss8998 he has one of the top 3 coaches of all time

@@henryslatt9041ok then why was the team in the position to get a top 3 pick? At the end of the day it’s the players playing if the players ass coaching could only matter so much

I’m deadddd😂😂😂

More like cat poop like in anchorman

Cuh😂😂😂

lol 0 more wins for the spurs. Wemb is cheeks. Youll see. When the media cant pump him up anymore

It will still always be a rivalry since Chet was blessed with a great team early and is good enough to hold his own vs Wemby.

@@Shortballa11ehhhh Wemby destroyed chet every matchup Every single one

@@210_bk2 Yea bt part of the rivalry will be Chet having a great team behind him. If CHet goes out there puts up 20, 10, 4, and 4 and hits a big shot it will be keep things interesting even if Wembys performances are 33, 12, 5, and 5. Its more the fact they are both Stretch 5s that will be dominant for the forseeable future

@@Shortballa11 not hatin on chet but does he got like 3 rebounds during a game in the playoffs, for a 7 footer i dont know what to say.

Wemby ofcourse better, but lets not downplay Chet. Chet's job as a rookie was be efficient inside and out and protect the paint. He did that. Wemby and him are the perfect Stretch 5s.

Don’t try and put them in the same category of ‘stretch 5s’. Wemby will be the first option on a championship team, Chet will be a 2nd option at best. Chet is a great player but to make it seem like they’re even close is ridiculous

⁠@@Wormholtthey’re both coming out of their rookie season; let’s relax.

@@Wormholt Chet will be a first option caliber player pal for sure. The guy is a freak. Wemby will be better but Chet's ceiling is somewhere in the top ten in the league. He also had one of the best rookie seasons we've seen in years it's just not talked about because Wemby had one of the best ever.

@@Wormholt did you completely neglect the first sentence “Wemby Ofcourse is better”. Bt yes they are on the same category. The same way Shaq and Dwight are in the same category. Shaq all time great. Dwight was great for his time. Their skill was power.

No he didn’t 😂 their preseason matchup Chet outplayed him, and the first matchup of the regular season neither played good, but San Antonio lost by 40.

@@partywitmarty we’re not talking about the team. We’re talking Chet vs Wemby when they played against each other. That’s it, yes it was neck to neck in the beginning of match ups, but later during the season Wemby played a little better than Chet. But, both are pretty damn similar when it comes to play.

This mfer said preseason 😂

I never seen wemby score on Chet where he didn’t commit an offensive foul. So one layup where he headbutted Chet first

True but Chet still played so great and that helped make the matchups exciting to witness

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YuP 😂

1000%

Would spurs vise versa? Never

Ong they’ll trade Chet and jdub for Wemby

Wembys rival isn't chet lol. It could be either ant or cooper flagg

@@tushign3169cooper flag who ain’t even in the nba yet? Nahhhh they will be rivals. Similar skill sets and one got blessed to be put in a good team and the other is a superstar on his own team.

You can't win DPOY if your team took 60 losses and is the worst of the conference.

@@connorjohn2752defensive PLAYER of the year not defensive team, Wemby was far and away the best defender this year and it wasn’t even close

@@downbadichigo9331 It's basically the defensive MVP trophy, and the MVP will never go to a great player on a losing team because they didn't impact winning which is the most important stat, how many games did they actually win because of their play? Rewarding a great player on a bad team sets a bad precedent for awards moving forward. Wemby should NOT be the DPOY. He shouldn't even be in the running honestly.

@@downbadichigo9331 This is the dumbest take lmfao

You can’t win DPOY when your team is ranked 26th in team defense that ain’t how it works

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60 losses😂😂

@@mhscchampion14ebudgetok and? Kd lost 62 games in his rookie year.. look where he is today, brain dead take

@@KiarRushingunanimous roty brwt

@@ryleelaking7882 KD is ringless without Curry😂😂😂 and KD never lost against a G league like Wemby in the ASG with 5 turnovers in 11 minutes😂😂😂 Center with the most turnovers of the whole league😂😂😂 Rookie who missed the most 3 points in NBA history😂😂😂😂

Chet averaged 16/8 with 2 and a half blocks per. Wemby averaged 20/10 with 3 blocks per. The fact that you’re thinking it’s insane to suggest Chet would average those numbers on a team where he would get more touches, more shot attempts, and more on ball possessions is hilarious. Yes, RJ is out of his mind for that. Shut up.

​@@partywitmartyWemby would get Thunder to the Finals where Chet did not. Wemby would get Timberwolves to the Finals if he were there instead of Gobert. Wemby is better. Stop riding.

@@sinastir7688 never said Chet was the better player, but you realize Wemby would be in Chet’s role right? Limited touches and mostly catch and shoot? He wasn’t a great catch and shoot player either, so his stats would be virtually the same as Chet’s on OKC lol. OKC went from the 10th seed to the 1 seed and their only major addition was Chet. Give him some respect.

Chet literally had one of the best rookie seasons in nba history, just because it’s not wembey level doesn’t mean it’s not historic and impressive

​@@sinastir7688 Your entire position is based on imagining things that didn't actually happen.

Facts

Why do you say that? He was only better by 5 points on 5 extra shots per game while Chet had to share the ball with Shai, Josh and J Dub. Are you saying with Chet’s efficiency, he wouldn’t have scored 5 more points on 5 more shots?

@@ErroneousMonk1 playing next to Shai and JDub was the reason Chet could maintain his efficiency. He got way more open looks than Wemby because of gravity of Shai and JDub pulling defenders away. Wemby always gets double/triple team whenever he catches the ball. Chet's scoring would plummet if he's in Wemby shoes.

@@natekong3596 FIVE MORE SHOTS PER GAME TO SCORE FIVE MORE POINTS PER GAME!!!!

⁠@@ErroneousMonk1No you just said it😂. He shared the ball with two people who scored 19 a game last season and someone who scored 30 a game last season. When both of them were out Chet played like dogshit and wasn’t efficient at all. So no I don’t think he would’ve averaged 21.

Chet's season in most season but Wemby's is rookie of the year

@@raymendez3403What are you trying to say 😂😂 😂

First of all Blake Griffin literally accomplished a unanimous rookie of the year with the same conditions as Chet. And second, Wemby played professionally in France before he came to the NBA.

@@_Kandy933 read again maybe idk lmfao

This whole “Chet wasn’t a rookie” argument is such a stupid waste of time that it’s completely pointless.

I have him top 5 by year 3

Hell yeah.

It’s funny because Wemby wasn’t “clearly better” until after January. For three months it was definitely close.

And why wouldn’t Chet be the same? There’s quite literally zero argument lmao.

@@partywitmarty Wemby was better than Chet at everything for the whole year except efficiency at the beginning. That’s also because Chet had others create his opportunities and take off pressure. Wemby had one other good player on his team. Chet had 2 stars and a mvp caliber player. There is no argument for Chet other than having a better team. There was no sign of him being able to carry a team. Chet is good but he’s not that good.

@@deadlylightningspirit4295 Chet anchored a top three defense in the nba. OKC jumped from barely in the play-in to top of the conference with him. By February, he had won rookie of the month twice to Wemby’s 1. Their stats were very similar, and Chet had broken multiple rookie records to an OKC franchise that literally had KD and Russ in their rookie years. You are obviously forgetting how close of a race it was at the start due to recency bias lol. It was definitely a race. It’s genuinely annoying seeing people discredit Chet’s game and skill set by giving all praise to Shai and JDub. Just disrespectful and ignorant. And JDub isn’t an all star lol.

@@deadlylightningspirit4295 there was no signs of Wemby carrying a team. They literally lost 60 games 😭 carrying a team is winning with little help.

He was the very last media member to admit wemby is ROY, noone was delusional longer than him 🤣🤣

Just making up everything in your head.

Chet is not kristaps. He better defensively

@@garrettfunke2044 Kristaps was a beat on defense in his younger days. And actually still is. Wemby and Chet are better version of what Porsingis started. The stretch 5 that can protect the paint.

Kristaps is better than chet

Nah, Chet never was, at no point. Wemby sent a message on the road vs KD after 5 games. It was over then

For me Victor was better throughout the season. Except field goal% and team record, he had everything over Chet but numbers were still close till January. Most NBA fans just had a agenda against Victor and was just rooting for the outsider in Chet

@@laiiididiiirat February, Chet had won Rookie of the Month twice to Wemby’s one. So yes, Chet was in front. Stop dickriding for 5 seconds.

@@laiiididiiirChet literally had higher odds of winning than wembey in the early season lol.

You wemby stans are something else, without a doubt 😂 possibly will pass Lebrons cult in 10 years. And for the record now, Wemby is better. Two more things: 1. Wemby does not have haters, but there are wemby fan haters, your delusional thinking it’s the world against Wemby when media coverage and jersey sales say otherwise 2. Chet is already being put down in his ROOKIE season by you stans because he isn’t as good as Wemby despite already being phenomenal and possibly have a generational career

@@clutchbrook4820dude we get it, your feelings are hurt because people are saying Wemby’s better. It’s not that serious.

@@clutchbrook4820 Your comment is pointless. Clearly you don't think that because you are a Thunder "fan". I can't even take you seriously when you're a Westbrook fan and your username is "clutchbrook". Imagine thinking Westbrook is clutch.

Great way to let everyone know you didn’t watch Chet last season lol

@@TheRealKillaTravWestbrook has been one of the clutchest players of the last decade by the way lol

“Towards the end of the season” dude, the stretch of games you were talking about were 3 games after 75 regular season games lmao, that’s not a large enough sample size. “Chet didn’t play like a star at the beginning of April in the three games without JDub and Shai, so your point falls short” is such an awful argument

@@partywitmarty I should've been more clear, the games I'm referring to was a 7 game stretch (games 72-78) where SGA missed 6 games and J Will missed 4. You thought I was just referencing the games where BOTH SGA and J Will missed simultaneously. Also, please let me hear your argument that Chet would excel as the number 1 option of a team, I'm already laughing at what you're gonna spew out. No one besides dillusional homers thinks Chet could've done what Wemby did, on a minutes restriction no less

@@Sunking210 y’all gotta learn the difference between JDub and JWill lol it’s been three years. And yes, those are the games I thought you were referring to because that’s what you said in your comment. Without Shai, Chet averaged 16pts/8rbs/2blks in six games. Without JDub, Chet averaged 18.7pts/8.5rbs/2.5blks in 11 games. So I’m confused by your comment where you said he struggled without them if you weren’t referring to them both being out lol.

@@Sunking210 if you think it’s crazy to suggest Chet couldn’t average 4 more points and 2 more rebounds with more shot attempts, more on ball possessions, more touches, AND a higher usage rate…you’re insane. Chet also wouldn’t have been on a minutes restriction considering he played all 82 with no injury. Wemby’s minutes restriction started due to injury. But the minutes argument is pointless because even with less minutes, Wemby had the ball more than Chet.

@@partywitmarty My point is that Chet's averages are more of a byproduct of having the luxury to play with 2 undeniably better players in SGA and "JDub" so yes I seriously think Chet wouldn't be putting up better numbers when the entire opposing team's defense is to stop Chet. Like I said originally out of all the Centers in the NBA last season, Wemby ranked 3rd in shot quality, meaning the majority of his shots were heavily defended. I saw enough OKC games to see how easily Chet can get thrown off when being defended. He would absolutely struggle more being double and triple teamed from the opening tip like Wemby does. And lastly, I'm not saying that Chet is a bad player cause he's obviously not, but what I am saying is that Wemby is being touted as a generational player for a reason. He creates a lot of his own offense and it just so happens he's one of the league's best on defense on top of that.

Trash? Champions with Okc? What does that make San Antonio?

​@@jeremianderson4861OKC is doing well because they have staff FROM San Antonio. Don't play lmfao 😂 Most successful teams in the recent past have players and/or staff from San Antonio.

Wemby spent a year playing pro basketball in France while Chet spent a year being wheeled on a scooter. NBA life? NBA media? He did practically no interviews and didn’t travel with the team. What are you talking about 😂

Don't compare the two... He already had his rookie season without getting injured. Wembanyama, he arrived in the United States with the weight of "best prospect since LeBron/best prospect in history" and he will certainly have to spend his entire career with it... He had barely finished his season, the draft , the story with the other Spears and we told him "go show us the so-called best prospect of all time" Not even drafted yet, the specialists said that if he the career of Hakeem Olajuwon, it's a failure. Chet doesn't have these problems.

@@tidus2275 narratives and popularity have nothing to do with anything I said

AFAIK, Chet had recovered to the point that he could have played toward the end of the 2022-2023 season but was held back. He was able to participate in practices including during the period leading up to the next season so he hit the ground running.

​@@partywitmartyBeen saying this for way too long. Ignorant peeps just don't want to understand.

That’s what I’m saying. Truly this shouldn’t be a debate. Although Chet didn’t play rookie year, he had a full season to be around the nba atmosphere and get the hang of things. To me that is extremely valuable to how you play coming out the gates. There was no rookie race this year like the media wants to portray. Wemby was just the best rookie and it’s that simple

Give Chet the ball in his hands far more and a team where he’s the #1 option and see what happens 😂

@@partywitmarty nothing would happen he’s not on wembys level

He would average less points because he would have less possessions, if Chet was in wembys position he would average more than he does on the thunder, that’s just how it works.

​@@partywitmartywhen sga wasnt playing chets numbers were the exact same

@@thatboylije7892 Chet averaged 17 and 8 and Wemby averaged 21 and 10. You’re insane to think Chet wouldn’t average nearly the same if he was in Wemby’s position when he was already putting up similar numbers

On facts and unbiased shit

Now imagine Chet is in a situation where he now has the ball in his hands and can do his own thing as opposed to playing offball all the time.

​@@partywitmartyDude. Wemby work SGA alone is putting up better numbers. This next season Wemby is going to elevate his game more and I'll laugh at the haters crying and coping 😂

@@sinastir7688 Wemby would be in the same role as Chet, meaning less touches, less shots, less on ball possessions, less usage, etc. I don’t know why you’re acting like it’s unlikely for Chet to drop 4 more points on a team where he’ll get the ball much more lol

@@partywitmartyWemby would probably be the franchise player at OKC LOL

THATS THE POINT. ROOKIES ARE DRAFTED TO BAD TEAMS TO MAKE THAT TEAM A PLAYOFF TEAM. tf😂

@@oktome3648why are you mad? 😂

@@partywitmarty I had captions on caps lock on accident. I wasnt mad tho😂

@@oktome3648 OKC went from 10 to 1 with Chet btw, just saying.

@@partywitmarty Yea the whole team improved btw

He is competitive, but smart enough to stay away from media manipulations and issues. He shows that competitiveness on the court

So how is Chet a follower and Wemby a leader? What did Wemby lead the spurs to?

​@@partywitmartyhe just means wemby is his teams franchise player, while chet isnt (atleast for now)

@@juohan OKC doesn’t have just one franchise player, they’ve got three lol.

@@partywitmarty pretty sure even thunder fans would argue against that. Shai is an mvp caliber who is a true alpha that can carry a team. And thats no disrespect to jdub and chet who are looking like solid core pieces to a championship team.

@@juohan thunder fans would absolutely not argue against that lol. That’s OKC’s big three of the future. Chet is the big reason why they improved so much.

wemby is not just “a smidge” more talented

@@leandrobrunner1627 Nah it's a "smidge"...I'm comparing Wemby vs Holmgren and NOT Wemby vs Tacko Fall. You Wemby fans get off his jock...Jokic just recently dominated Wemby in International play...and he probably did it with a hangover.

@@JackDakerso if he is just a smidge more talented, you think Chet as a first option, taking on double teams and triple teams would put up 21 points.

@@AdrianGarcia-gy9kf Uh yes...yes I do...lets look at 2024 stats...Holmgren has a usage rate of 21.6 while Wemby has a usage rate of 32.1...Luka Doncic leads the league with 35.9...Wemby is 3 points behind Luka and Holmgren is 11 points behind Wemby...Holmgren is third option at best on OKC...so please think it through before saying more ignorant things.

@@JackDaker just because your a die hard Chet fan don’t mean us Wemby fans are delusional bro lmao. You’re not always right. Eye test says something completely different. Numbers don’t lie but they don’t tell the full story

How is he underrated when they were literally saying he better than Wemby half the season? Wemby just proved the doubters wrong

Chet won’t be the best player on his team for a while as long as shai is there. Wemby is on another level than Chet. Chet’s teams will be better but as long as they stay healthy Chet won’t touch Wemby

@@cam8868 i see what ur saying but chet or wemby can put muscle on and who ever does it first is gonna be the one who excels

Chet's way better than good. He had an all time rookie season and people think he's average because his rookie season was the same as Wembys

@@ttam1217let me make this easy for you. Chet has the potential to be an all star and wemby has the potential to be the best player in the league in 3 to 4 years

@kalenmarshall8692 now explain to yourself how an all star is just "good".

@@ttam1217 you said his rookie season “was the same as Wembys” I just gave you the discrepancy of what their ceilings are. Not debating semantics such as the word “good”

If wemby never had that MASSIVE leap since January, they could be. But he did improved like he’s on his 3rd year 😂 Nothing that chet can do with that.

@reynalyndapat6284 chet has a big argument tho guy, yea he was on a better team but once put on the thunder they became a 1 seed while putting up solid numbers as a rookie, Victor is great and his numbers are ridiculous but was on a losing ball club like they only won 22 games. This is why I said the situations are very different I feel there could've been co rookies this year.

You are the only sane person in these comments. Wemby is on a trash team, while chet is on a 1 seed. Chet would probably have crazy numbers if literally every play was run through him, like the spurs do with wembenyama. I think people get into the marketing too much

He did it the first time on accident then he did it again no head but lol