Chevy Bolt EV Final Thoughts 

Totally agree. GM did an exceptional job with the paddle, the regen, and especially the blended braking. Love my Bolt.

I think Sue missed the Lo mode also, aka one pedal

@@rossr6616 : I agree there was a point it sounded like she hadn’t used L mode. “Glide path” doesn’t sound like what my Bolt EV does.

Her whole disposition was like she was apologizing for liking the Bolt. Is this to avoid the wrath of Tesla fanboys? I love my Bolt, and GM made it years before Model Y or 3 and it costs half of those cars.

@@CleanPowerAuto The bolt only came out 8 months before the model 3 and the price used to be much closer than it is now. When I got mine there was only 7k difference between the base models and the model 3 was a lot more capable.

GM’s ownership experience is not the best, please read my response regarding my ownership experience of my 2019 Bolt.

It was a paid advertisement by Chevy. FYI. Doesn’t detract from Sandy’s analysis.

@@danjw1 I hear you on the Bolt. it’s a toy car if I do buy it. I’m waiting for my Cybertruck. Also, getting my wife a model Y - waiting for the the new battery to mature. We don’t need a car right now.

O, I am sure they thanked Him properly 🤣🤣🤣

@@danjw1 I spent 20 minutes looking for your review ?? can you cut and paste it into a response here ? Thx.

Yep

BYD Dolphin looming on the horizon

And the VW EUp!

@@davidwellington4186 yes the eUp! Especially with the bigger battery now. Unfortunately not available where I live.

In the UK anything new and capable of a real life 200+ miles is still in excess of £30,000. There are some offers on Zoe's that bring them under £30k but even if they were free I'm not getting in to a new car that scores 0 stars in Euro NCAP because Renault decided to save a few quid by removing side airbags!

I'd have to agree with this. I had a 2021 Bolt for about 9 months and ended up trading it in for more than I financed it for so that I could lower my debt-to-income to acquire a Duplex. One of my biggest gripes w/ the 2021 was that the A/C controls, heated seats, etc were on the screen and sometimes the screen took awhile to respond. The physical buttons on the 2022, alongside the one-pedal mode button are game changers.

Agree ... as a large manufacturer, GM has to try pleasing everybody (young and old) so they focus more on familiarity than boutique-ness.

My wife just switched to a car without a physical knob for volume control. Physical buttons and dials are highly underrated, at least for things that you use frequently.

@@RyanWilliams222 I think tesla has the best solution for this, 2 knobs on the steering wheel that change function based on where the screen is. Volume and Speed control are default and then you can switch to other stuff as needed.

@@DrThunder2004 That definitely sounds better than not having any physical dials or knobs at all, but is it better than having a dedicated volume knob? What if I’m in some part of the menu where the dial has a different function, but I want to adjust the volume immediately and without looking? I get the appeal of minimizing dials and knobs from an engineering perspective, but from a user-experience perspective, I don’t really see the downside of having them. I suppose it would reduce the potential to feel overwhelmed at first, but that feeling goes away once you become familiar with the controls, and then you can adjust a bunch of stuff quickly and without having to take your eyes off the road.

I prefer buttons for not taking my eyes off the road to make a minor change. I’ve always relied, and trained new drivers to learn muscle memory for controls. However, all these vehicles have voice controls that work as well, so I see Sandy’s point. To backstab my previous point about voice controls, without the family in the car, I am in my zone. I don’t even like phone calls interrupting my happy place by stopping the music, so I appreciate the available controls to make adjustments without stopping my music to use voice. FREEDOM!!! 🤘❤️☠️🔥SGBCFTW!!!

My biggest complaint with my new model y is I can't adjust fan speed for defrost.

And we don’t need another taxpayer funded GM bailout.

I would love to agree, and do in principle.. but I drove a Volt for 125Kmi and a Model3 for the last 4. GM is still in the past with discrete model year feature sets. Tesla has it right with firmware updates for all the people. I just wish Teslas were cheaper. Folks deserve better than GMs self-serving halfway-there offerings. 😥

@not today GM already received a bailout not long ago in the form of a loan that they will probably never pay back. 2.1 Billion .

exactly

For GM to sell more ….something has to be done about Unfair Trade… When a Volt sells in the US for $39k and the same car costs $80,000 in China .. Japan .. Korea etc GM will never complete fairly!.. you can build the best EV … but unfair trade will negate any design advantage .

Except she clearly didn't use 1 pedal breaking properly and didn't mention the regen paddle

@@Thedoctorjosh maybe that's a problem with the UX. Instead of blaming her, consider that she knows from 1 pedal and after a weekend, she didn't find how to enable. She's a likely target persona and we just heard of a UX fail

@@ericobut how's about you don't professionally review cars if you can't even be brothered to learn what the 5 buttons on the center console do?

GM has to expend it’s customer base to have a future.

@@videopyc True, but they shouldn't ignore their old customers. I used to buy Oldsmobiles, at the time the Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme was the best selling car in America. GM decided to take Oldsmobile upscale and stopped making the Olds models that people liked. The upscale customers never showed up and Oldsmobile died. From the comments I see a lot of people like buttons.

The thing you have to remember with Monroe videos is he’s a “DFMA” guy-their mantra is to eliminate any moving or separate parts. So, from that point of view, you’d put every control on the screen. From the user’s point of view, that sucks, but it satisfies the DFMA method. By the way, these (DFMA) are the people who’ve made things so they’re completely unserviceable, or with integrated plastic clips that break when you try to take it apart. DFMA is great for initial cost, but bites you with high repair costs down the road, and in this case, eliminates manual buttons that most users prefer to a screen interface.

I wouldn’t buy EV without, power button. Just think about buying a computer or phone without power button. It always good to clear all those junks in the ram, or you could get a screen freeze which is not safe for car.

AMEN! Exactly, the car shouldn't be sitting there listening and waiting for you to walk up to it. It is just a giant power suck. I prefer the power on and off button as well. The minimalist design forcing everything on the screen, no easy access controls and no displays in front of the driver so the driver can focus on the road and not be messing around looking over at the screen and messing with it. Tesla is missing the boat and sadly the other manufacturers are trying to mimic that insanity. I like the layout of the Bolt. I can't say I am a fan of that button layout for that transmission, but they did a pretty good job overall. GM should keep the Bolt around and just keep refining it, give it a little more speed with the DCFC. I am not a GM fan at all, but well done GM.

Agree. Hate be repair anything new Tesla Model Y

Simple is great. GM is terrible. That's why it's a POS.

@@heinousanus9352 hi, do you own this generation of car ? Why do you feel how you do, curious ?

The price of this car is also affected by the old Bolt battery catastrophe - GM needs to overcome the bad impression by offering a very attractive price. The profit margin must be very small for this car. Sandy gets a little caught up on a few things. He didn't fully pick up on the theme of the car that Sue noticed - everything about this car screams it was created to provide a seamless transition from an ICE to a BEV. Or even an up to date ICE car. The redundant buttons are for folks who hate the idea of navigating thru a touch screen. The buttons allow you to do all the traditional functions, minimizing the use of the screen. The Start button is also there for familiarity, for folks who don't like the idea that the car can go just by selecting the gear, when the car isn't "running."

As Lauren Fix called the BOLT suspension. A trailer with a suspension. Basic and inexpensive.

Being able to apply the tax credit as a discount @ point of sale will help. Hopefully dealer fees and add-ons won't kill this car in the market.

Not sure how much new tax credit will apply to this, the old one had run out for GM. At least the new tax credit won't punish early adopters like GM

I agree! AC Fan Speed/Temp and Volume rotary dial should be separate from the screen. Some GUI are slow to respond to touch inputs or "animation" needs to completely load before interacting...quite annoying.

I'm fine with the volume control on the steering wheel. The other one can be anything, as it's mostly for the passenger who doesn't need to keep their focus on the road.

The 2023 Bolt (probably the same in older models) have up/down volume buttons behind the steering wheel on the right side while the left rear side have audio saved channels selector besides the regen paddle. I like how the remote start, via key fob or mychevrolet app, works on this car where it preconditions the batteries for driving while also turning on the ac or heat including the heated seats and steering wheel though you still have to press the power on button once you’re inside the car, I suppose to keep the battery usage low. Preference setup on mychevrolet app is also smooth and identifies and logs me in as I enter the car. I like driving this car and is my second EV car and a move up in terms of mileage capacity and acceleration from a 2016 Leaf SV which I also like in terms of drivability where it has better handling and lower center of gravity.

I was confused by that remark also I thought bespoke meant custom-made, which of course it isn't. Also not sure that was 100% ground up, the end result is what counts anyway. So many people use the factory conversion or compliance car as an attack and it's really missing the point.

I noticed that mistake too. I also noticed that apparently, Sue never found the the aggresive regen mode. And I also noticed that Sandy thinks this car is drastically different from the 2017-2021 Bolt. It’s identical except for the IP and seats.

I agree. As far as I know the definition of, “bespoke,” is custom-made. Perhaps, “luxurious,” is what Sandy meant. The Bolt has a pretty basic interior, but it gets the job done. I can say from the pictures of the newer Bolt, it looks like Chevy has noticeably improved the interior look and feel over my 2017 model. I’ll say the Bolt is an extremely well assembled car. The assembly quality on the Bolt matches any Asian car I’ve owned. The updated front fascia on the Bolt actually looks pretty good too.

@@kipamore Yes, the Bolt should offer a setting to default to “L” mode instead of “D.” I had a Nissan LEAF before my Bolt and it was the same - two flicks of the shifter required to get aggressive regeneration. I suppose Nissan and Chevy did it to make gas car drivers feel more at home.

Bespoke in the sense that you keep it in the family - an heirloom. Not a commodity.

I agree! More content with Sue’s perspective and participation!!! Love how y’all work together 🙏🏼😁😎

Not only is she amazing she is beautiful!

And smart too, of course!

The start button on a Tesla is the brake pedal. You can configure a Tesla not to unlock when you approach it.

I'm with you on the simplicity aspect of manual operation. I don't want my car guessing when I want it locked or unlocked or when I want it running or not running.

Tesla seems to have done it right, car "starts" when you hit brake pedal, some things wake up when you open doors (and sleep when you close and all out, eg HVAC etc)... and, doesn't unlock until you open the door handle (it knows/preps when you approach w/ phone key, but doesn't actually unlock til door.) The car doesn't use much power just sitting sleeping, maybe 1% every 2-5days... if you leave computer fully running w/ Sentry cam on etc, that is around 300W, or 1mile/hour... This seems better than the Rivian approach which UNLOCKS just as you approach the car (!!), and also starts up the HVAC it seems, from other reviews? eek.

@@cgamiga Teslas use a lot of energy in its "Off mode". Here is a video demonstrating this: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ivvKqguWhJs.html

@@conchobar I watched the video you recommended and there was extremely low battery loss after 3 cold days of not using. I'd say the vid you recommended does NOT support your thesis.

Also, if they only have on the screen and screen goes out and car is undrivable... Can you imagine the criticism they would receive along with risk of lawsuits? Imagine your screen goes out while you are driving in forward. How do you put the car in park or shut it off? Maybe there is an amswer but to me it is smart common sense to spend the extra $10.00 to have redundancy with switches/buttons.

You wrote, "I hope Chevy makes (technical term here) shit tons of these things over the next few years". I hope so too, because it is nice to see "cheaper than Tesla but still good enough" EVs become available. However, I fear this car may not sell well. I say that for a few reasons. First, the original Chevy Bolt sold about 27K--30K units annually for several years (before the pandemic and battery recall). Put simply, its sales plateaued rather than increasing significantly from year to year. And this is despite the facts that it won several "car of the year" awards, was released several months before the Tesla Model 3, and was priced significantly cheaper than the Tesla Model 3. Second, near the start of this year, I saw an interview with a high-level manager at GM. He said problems with the battery recall were over and he was confident of being able to sell more than 20K Chevy Bolts in 2022. I was disappointed; I thought he should have been aiming to sell hundreds of thousands of units, but instead he seemed to be happy to settle for the mediocre level of sales that the car had previously had. Third, in June 2022, GM announced a $6000 price drop for the Chevy Bolt, which suggested to me the car was selling poorly enough that GM felt the only way to increase sales was to cut the price. I fear the car might have suffered long-term reputational damage from the battery recall. Hopefully the new government $7500 rebate will be enough to overcome reluctance amount potential buyers, and hence increase demand for this car. $20K for a "good enough" EV sounds like a great bargain.

@@CiaranMcHale Well, yes. But I think you've said it yourself: a Bolt EV for just a few thousand dollars below a Model 3 wasn't quite going to cut it in 2016. But for $27K today ? It's a genuine bargain. True, the Bolt battery fires and subsequent recalls couldn't have come at a worse time. But recalls for all sorts of other things on cars happen all the time and we don't get nearly as excited as we did about the Bolt's batteries. Sadly, a lot of the EV press conflated it instead of just reporting on it. How many ICE cars went up in flames during the same period compared to that handful of Bolts? My thoughts are that Chevy (or their main battery supplier, LG Energy Solutions) would do well to develop LFP cells for the Bolt. We wouldn't even be talking about battery fires any longer, or supply chain and/or ethical sourcing issues of things like nickel and cobalt if this was the case. And who - outside of a vocal contingent of online commentators who are always going to be obsessed with such things - really cares if the car's range drops down to, say, around 220 miles as a result? As an EV driver on a budget, I've done just fine with an electric car with a fraction of that range for the past 7 years. I'd rather have the ability to cycle a more durable battery down to near zero and bring it back up to 100% regularly without fear of damage, as you're not going to experience that when doing this with higher energy density - but more fragile - ternary cell chemistry. I'll admit that many of my observations are out of step with the conventional cost-no-object decade-long vision of mainstream EV adoption. But I do think it's time that we have to remove all this peer pressure decision making from the 4PM cocktail crowd and bring it down to Earth for everyone else. Or, to put it in another way, I'm excited to see EVs become . . . boring. :-)

The Climate crises is manufactured BS. Pollution is very real but this climate crises you talk about isn't being made better by electric cars until the whole supply chain is electrified and the electricity is made from no carbon based fuels. The greenest thing you could have done is to buy one car and drive it till you die.

@@majorchungus ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-qw5zzrOpo2s.html

Thankfully the Equinox will fit the bill there

There will always be something better a year or two wait away. I wouldn’t make too big a deal about waiting for LFP cells for EV batteries. The highest figure I could find for total Bolt fires was 16 out of ~141,000 vehicles reported by Autoweek November 15, 2021. Presumably it is close to or zero fire rate for the re-engineered replacement batteries, but there is less than a year of statistics available for the new batteries.

the fault experienced in the Bolt Cells is not related to the chemistry, it is a physical flaw in processing of separator materials; could happen with LeFePo as well

@@wtmayhew You wouldn't wait, but I would. LFP is much safer.

@@rossr6616 You are so very wrong. The fire starts as a fault with the separator, but the chemistry is what makes it impossible to put out.

But would you buy it when you notice the LFP cells give you a noticeable drop in range , maybe a lower cost would sway the decision maybe not. I would like to see comparative statistics for ICE and EV battery fires before becoming insistent on one kind of battery tech. Not sure if they are in the public domain

Yes, I use L exclusively

Me too. Weeks go by and I never touch the brake pedal. Love that.

The newest Bolts have a dedicated one pedal driving button versus L mode. Still has the paddle which works the same.

Hate to say it, but you got hosed. Chevy put a brand new battery in every 2017-19 Bolt. Not only that, but the replacement has 10% more capacity. Before buying I did quite a bit of research. Basically, nothing breaks on the Bolt.

@@kipamore I had a VOLT, not a Bolt. Totally different animal. Had no issues with it, just lack of faith in GM. Glad you are happy with your Bolt. Hope it won't need another battery anytime soon. Seems like it would make a great commuter car and at a good price. Enjoy!

The cover underneath my volt was falling off. Good thing my volt was a lease

@@jeffbaldwin9842 Sorry, you did sat Volt. A neighbor has a Volt with 220k on it. But I get it, and would probably do the same. A little too complex for my tastes.

​. VOLT is one of the best vehicles GM built. Very few issues. Minor things here and there. Still have my 2015. No problems. Erick Belmer who works at GM has a 2012 with over 500K miles and still runs good. STEALERS are all the same. Theyre not owned by the maker. You should've kept it.

A slow charge rate is a deal breaker for a lot of people. I actually hope they don't sell that many because they will clog up the super charging stations. People will be waiting an hour in there ioniq 5 so they can plug in for 18 minutes.

I believe Sue IS an Engineer, with a Masters

And a Doctorate!

Same here.

DC slow charging * lol

@@Fred-mv8fx I never needed the use of the DC charger Network for the driving I did. Only wish could buy this car in N.Ireland. great range for the price compared to others. Nice spec too.

@@AdrianMcDaid same here, but part of that is I avoid driving the car in situations where I'll be stuck at a DC charger for very long. I also have the recalled battery + charge limit software, so one trip I want to make would require two dcfc sessions to complete, but the extra 80 miles of range after the fix would allow a single dcfc session. That means double the detour time to get to the off-route charger before factoring in the actual charge time.

They did that because it’s cheaper and then sold it as better.

I think the controls for the 2022 HVAC, including the heated and cooled seats on the EUV, are perfect. On my Chrysler, I have to go to the screen for the seat controls - takes too much time and away from driving attention.

Thank Kyle Conner for going to Detroit and Yelling at Mary's office not to cancel this car. :)

To think this car basically started design almost 10 years ago. Can't wait to see him review a new Ultium EV.

Because by and large they have been terrible, not to mention the battery fire problems. He doesn’t have a “bias”, you watch any of his car tear downs and reviews, he’s very honest, often brutally honest. That isn’t bias, that’s called honesty. He has also been very critical of Tesla’s and their manufacturing and fitting etc. he’s less and less critical of them because they are taking his advice (probably) and improving on all of the things he has suggested them to fix and then some. If GM were smart, they’d hire Munro and associates to review all their upcoming evs and help them improve so they eventually get bigger market share, because at this stage, they won’t be around in 5-10 years… Will Mary Barra do it though, I mean, she changed the game, electrified the US car market right? 🤣🤣🤣

His issue with them is their lack of urgency in fully transitioning. The opposing view is why he loves Tesla. He used to work in Detroit and was canned for going against the grain. So I'd say it's a mixture of disappointment and schadenfreude.

He’s a Ford alum. His reflex hatred of GM in his videos oozes. You can see the physical pain he goes through admitting GM did something good.

She made a honest mistake, the coasting mode is one of two modes. That’s the problem with a sort of review. She didn’t RTM and her review was based on just winging it. The 2017-21 shifter is lame and the 2022-23 is also lame but different. Bolts are great EVs with a few odd design limits

The regen setting may have been changed. Hard to tell with an anecdotal comment, and Munro really doesnt seem to have any rigorous requirements for test drives. I personally feel like they should either adopt some test drive standards or drop the pretense.

Feels like tesla fans reviewing the bolt

I really don’t like having to peck at screens while driving, especially for stuff where you’ve got to try to position a virtual slider - a real knob would be easier - the temperature knob on the Bolt, for example. Yes, there are some things which can be done with surface acoustics on screens to give haptic feedback for a more button-like feel. Why not just provide buttons?, but just don’t over-do it with too many buttons.

There are some subtle things Chevy’s designers got right on the screen. Taps register when you lift your finger, rather than when your finger lands. I had a Nissan LEAF that functioned as the latter and I wanted to smack the screen every time I got a false click on the screen due to a bump in the road causing my finger to hit the screen before I wanted. Living in the Mid West, there are plenty of bumps in the roads around here.

@@wtmayhew Voice command obsoletes buttonology. "Set temperature to 72"

@@steamtorch Good comment. I have a Garmin GPS in my old Toyota. The wake phrase is “voice command…” Occasionally the GPS will interpret people talking in the car saying nothing resembling the wake phrase as the wake phrase and then do something random. It is pretty rare, but has happened several times. As long as voice controls are used for non critical functions such as HVAC, I’d say it is a very useful solution.

Imagine IF, gm did not kill the EV in 1890.

What makes you think GM stopped working on batteries? They have the largest battery lab in North America.

That's Dr. Okray.

Hear hear for Sue

The bean counters will screw this car up cutting padding in the seats to save a nickel.Using low bid after market components. Hiring I'll e gals to use torque wrenches that they can not read!

It was never an ice car, built from the ground up as an EV. that said, it does retain don't ice features that are absent in a lot of EV's, namely physical buttons that I prefer. It's a great little car. Lightning Lariat and Bolt EUV owner

Yes, it's definitely a downside and it's the reason we mainly road trip with our ICE vehicle instead of our Bolt. That said, it would add a ton of cost to the Bolt to update it. My hope is that in the near future GM offers a slightly larger Bolt replacement (Equinox EV?) based on Ultium tech, but keeps the Bolt for sale at a very low price point as a city/commuter car.

@@dhalbrook We maybe think that increasing the charging rate is just a case of installing different DC charging hardware on the exact same car. Swap one black box for another. Unfortunately that's unlikely to be the case. Increased speed means the battery gets hot ... so it needs to be actively cooled ... so needs a major redesign of the battery pack (the most expensive part of the car) ... then install an additional heat exchanger/radiator somewhere and even the cells themselves need to be of a suitable specification so perhaps a change there too. They are limited by compromise of the existing size and shapes in the original design. The people who make these cars are not fools ... if it was that easy to do they would have done it. I think you are correct that such changes should come with a Bolt replacement, but we shouldn't hold our breath on the changes coming to the Bolt itself.

It was designed as a commuter car first and foremost. 2nd DCFC was at 50Kwh back then, which was pointless to do anything higher. It's an older design from 2016. It's now being updated with LFP and faster DCFC. But, the 55 kwh is good for the battery longevity.

Absolutely agree.

Why open menus? Just talk to it.

@@davidbeppler3032 talking is for humans. I don't want to verbally order machines, it's going to affect how we talk to humans.

100% agree. Those tried and true buttons last for decades. Show me any electronic product from any home appliance to the most expensive cellphone, laptops that don't have failures inside a few years. I don't want a EV that I have to pay a monthly subscription to make sure my ac,heater or windshield wipers keep working when needed the most.

The Verge's recent video on the F150 Lighting really drilled on the lack of buttons and the taps needed to reach different controls. I'm for having physical buttons for things that you need to change while driving. That's less time looking away from the road.

Agreed, that and the rear view really are better than my Lightning

I wonder when they'll get recalled?

Just drove 2017 Bolt EV from California to Massachusetts. Kept running into the same Ionic 5, and VW IDs on the trip, so as long as you maximize the charging rate (keep under 65% SOC) you are good. Car had 86,000 miles and the replacement drive battery. Only wish it had adaptive cruise control. Also, being such a small vehicle it gets bullied on the road, usually pickups. I miss it already.

It may not qualify for the tax credit. Must have North American battery materials. Hope they change the bill.

@@hoffinger That DOES not apply to 2023, the domestic (North American) battery content starts in 2024,.

Here is an idea: A range limited, geofenced EV as first car for teenagers, or senior citizens.

I've never driven any other EVs, but I almost never use the brakes in my Bolt. Very easy to come to a complete stop without using the brakes. I wonder if the lady had enough sense to hit the one-pedal driving button...

If you check in-depth reviews you'll find out that the Bolt has two selectable regen modes. The one that Sue described, that coasts and incidentally creeps at walking pace, and a one pedal driving mode, which comes to a complete halt.

I've driven or owned almost all the EVs out there. The Bolt is in the tops for regen efficiency. If you don't live in an area that puts salt on the road, the brakes will last 150k miles or more. As a bonus, you don't even have to drive one pedal if you'd rather not. The blended braking is the best out there, bar none. The car will always regen to the max ability regardless of how you choose to slow the vehicle.

Isn't the advantage of a button that you can quickly learn to used it by feel without taking your eyes off the road, so it is both safer and easier?

It doesn't have a week one pedal driving at all. It is every bit as robust as a Tesla and why a start-stop button is a deal breaker on a car that cost less than half with a Tesla does is a surprise.

Many are reducing their button/knob count with each model year to follow Tesla’s lead. Those functions are being consolidated on steering wheels, via voice commands, and hand gestures. Tesla’s goal is for their vehicles to eventually become self driving, so the danger in not looking at the road at all times eventually will not be an issue or concern.

Thank you for sharing your experience! 🙏🏼😁

@@ericmix I plan on buying one soon, debating whether to spend and extra 500 on a red one.

@@BTSgigafactory we ordered the blue one for our 2023 model, which is what we wanted when we got our black 2019 model. I bet the red one would look awesome and be totally worthwhile.

good observation. child safety is a "thing".

I agree with your comment about the stick/1 pedal. I love that it persists but wish it was more intuitive to take in and out of 1 peddle like my 20 was. That being said I've adapted and can find the button without looking after a few months of ownership. Still not as nice as the stick but I'm getting better

Not the only issue. GM is also forcing new customers to sign away their right to sue them if the vehicle catches fire. That doesnt give any feeling of confidence to me.

@@patreekotime4578 No. GM is offering a $6000 rebate check to the few people who purchased a Bolt around the time they disclosed the future price cut. If they accept the check, they must sign the waiver. Don't accept the check, they don't have to waive their rights to sue. The truth is, nearly everyone who had a Bolt catch fire filed a claim with their insurance company instead of suing GM.

What does "city car" even mean...? 250 miles of range gets me between most major cities in my area without having to recharge, and if I have even an hour at my destination I can DC fast charge while I take care of whatever it is I'm required to do. The only thing you can't do unless you plan for extra time is cross-country travel.

I travel in my Bolt, but DC fast charging does take a bit more time.

According to GM they're losing $15,000 on each Bolt

Thanks for watching!