Chevy REFUSES To Fix My ZR2 Engine Over *VOIDED* WARRANTY?!? 

Thanks. Some people will stop at nothing to try and trick people into stuff. I got one of those comments but it was obvious it was fake. Lol right below it was your comment.

Just because you called ford and ram and over the phone they said yea we will take care of the issue means nothing it’s a stealer ship just like the Chevy dealer you went to they just want you to bring the truck in so they can look at it for a week and tell you it’s your problem and you have to pay for it ford and ram will do the same exact thing as the Chevy dealer.

Just got one!

Especially when they say I’ve prize for u 😂

@@garycavanaugh1877 🤣🤣

Took the words out of my mouth.

He is right! Keep fighting Bobby!

Yep your so right. That dealership sucks.

Ford dealers are the same, but it's only if you get a good one, some are like this and won't cover anything if you so much as change emblems on it... but it's all covered under warranty, unless it can be proven. Exhaust is unlikely, especially if it's an axle back.

Exactly correct. Some dealers just don't want the headache from dealing with anything modified (even in the slightest) due to a bad wrap on certain mods customers do to their vehicles. I do think that, if his ZR2 is going to stay for the long haul, that he sends it over to LMR for a nice heads/cam package with a trans mod for him to take care of the 6.2L valve and lifter issue permanently and pick up more power. But that's worst case scenario in that GM won't cover his repairs from a factory perspective. Having a nice choppy ZR2 on the channel would probably get more views to say the least. Besides, LMR does cover their work done to the vehicles they upgrade.

He’s also spent a few hundred thousand dollars at that dealer too. Even if they did his repairs outta pocket they’d still be ahead

@@MintMonte87ACSS312 he actually bought the trx at a different dealer from where he gets it serviced at

Definitely going to need the warranty on the bronco.

@@APatchworkCanvas you spelled Escape wrong, lolz.

Duncan, I hope you enjoy your Escape in mens clothing.

Yup! This! In violation of federal law if they don’t cover for the reasons they say. SCOTUS even ruled on it.

Prove to who the customer, that is for a court. In his own video he said there was a little stumble when he test drove it but no dyeing or miss firing, he said a little stumble. Which by the way it looks bad why would somebody modify a improperly running vehicle, you would have it fixed first. His problems did not surface until he modified it, proof is in the pudding! He could put the OEM exhaust back on and see if the problem persists, then maybe yes. Next question will be was the break in procedure followed if not than another strike.

@@matthewgillies6936 a modified exhaust won't cause your lifters to go bad. All it does is make the truck louder. Even if you were right, the dealership has to definitively prove that the exhaust caused the lifter issue before they deny the warranty claim. It's the law. If they don't, then Bobby has the ability to sue them. Considering bad lifters is a known issue with the 6.2L V8, the exhaust had nothing to do with it. As for why he modified it before he got it fixed, two reasons: 1. He was told the problem would go away on its own, so he thought the truck was fine. 2. Us gearheads can't leave anything alone. If we own it, it's getting modified. No ifs ands or buts about it. If we're not modifying our vehicles, we're thinking about what mods we wanna do next.

You really don’t know how the Magnuson Moss Warranty Act actually works in real life.

@@matthewgaines10 People also do not realize why the Magnuson Moss Warranty Act was created. They act like it was created so people could run aftermarket performance parts and the dealers would have to prove there parts caused any failure.

Yeah that blows my mind that he bought it after feeling the stuttering in the test drive lol

I think they might be nervous about taking care of the repair since it'll most likely find its way to YT for all of us to view. We all know the lifter issue with the 6.2L, no stranger to it myself, modified or fully stock, this should be a "non issue" by GM to take care of.

Although it is mis diagnosed and not lifter failure. When the lifters fail on these trucks they will have an audible knock. If he was actually worried about his truck getting fixed he would look at my comment above. The TSB I mentioned is for surging under light throttle. It is more than like a failed magnet that controls the cam phaser.

I agree. Has nothing to do with it and can’t cause issues. I’ve been fortunate with my 22 trail boss. 22k miles and solid.

@@TheWolfMatt not even a 6.2 problem. It’s any displacement on demand gm truck engine. I’ve replaced many stuck lifters on these engines. The worst part is GM is fully aware, but doesn’t care.

@@garrettsmith7244 I’ve never heard a knock from failed lifters on these engines, ticking and tapping, yes.

I'd have left that junk sitting on the lot...🐃💩like this is why I left Chevrolet 30 years...never had an issue with the old GM muscle cars, but I never had any luck with a GM truck...after being drug home by my neighbors Ford, I bought one and never looked back...no, I'm not a brand loyalist, but I insist on reliability...Ram has a couple of cool trucks and GM has good looking trucks...that being said, I ain't never walked home because of any of my Ford trucks leaving me stranded...

@@sykwookiee especially for $80k…

@@sykwookiee fuck these new sissy trucks, I’ll stick with my old W100 or my pop’s Willy’s pickup. Both have always gotten me home.

Just he can just make him take it back as a lemon if you want to 5.3L whatever the 6.2L he has is defective he's pretty well explained that like you said the guy that sold it to him felt that way during the test drive. I know you can't get another ZR2 package because that's 6.2L only but if you want to 5.3L or 6.0L or a six-cylinder model for my Chevy giving the money back completely and get a Ford or a Dodge Ram or a Toyota Tacoma or Tundra trucks of lemon. "Trucks of lemon"

@Coyote Car Reviews please comment in on what I actually said about the truck being a lemon and the dealership not wanting to fix his truck can you please comment to Bobby that that's the situation he's in or if you ain't know anyone except your GMC help him. 👍 Also I don't care about punctuation and grammar just trying to help the brother out. 😀 👍 So in your opinion should his future brother-in-law have to pay to fix the truck or Bobby's father or the company that sold on the defective truck so lemon yes. 😀👍

@Coyote Car Reviews Do you care about the person whose video you watched and the situation he's in. I'm not sure if you do since you're saying this to me but not something to him to help the man out.

@@EDV8ZR1 Lemon law requires they declare they can't fix it after a number of tries and buy it back. It will not apply here.

@@nobodynoone2500 other people have stated the 6.2 L are known to be defective so I feel it is a required to be replaced or refunded but if not his problem any other suggestions if you don't believe he could get out of it that way. 😀😀👍👍

Also, don’t buy the first gen of anything.

So true! A salesman is not a mechanic and usually has no idea how cars work. They will blame ANY issue on break in. There is no such thing as break in period any more, with the exception of suspension alignment during the first 500 miles of the car. While going to another dealer is not a bad option, usually if one dealer declined the repair, they'll put it online, so that all dealerships are aware. Your better option is to ask the dealer which declined it, or the second dealership to escalate it and get their dealer Rep involve, or call the customer assistance people and ask them to provide help and get the Dealer Rep involved

@@willpina Dealerships are like snowflakes. Each is different. One won't touch a car with mods while another will work on the same car up to the limits. Some will even advise removing easy to remove mods before bringing it in for a major issue.

@@matthewgaines10 the problem with dealerships now, specially GM, is that if one dealer works on a modified vehicle without noting it down, and then another dealership flags it as a modified vehicle and gets it blocked, then the first dealership could get back flagged for the repairs they did. That's why dealership are very cautious now, specially if they didn't sell the vehicle

@@matthewgaines10 of course, you are 100% correct. It really depends on the dealership

You let them rebuild a brand new engin that spun a bearing?!? You now have a new truck with odd sized bearings, I wouldn’t accept that as a remedy.

I daily a 41 year old jeep. I make it to work everyday, better yet if it breaks all i need is a small toolbox about the size of a small cooler and half a brain and i can fix it. Yes it has broken, no its never left me stranded, even when i dropped a driveshaft i uninstalled it, and drove it home on the front wheels (4wd)

Maybe if enough of us keep commenting to buy an older truck he’ll do it…. I think he’d be surprised how many views he’ll get. I’ve almost 10k views on my 94 C2500 ac charge. People love the OBS content.

That's exactly what I just did. I got a 94 Suburban to work on.

Damn right

Shhhh don't tell people that. Tell them to buy new. Leave the old gems to us 😉

What are y’all, sperm? Since when is ‘94 old? Get something 70’s and have it till you die. My 73 power wagon has never stranded me. Hell, the old 318 got me home when a failed lifter wiped the cam, I just unplugged the plug wire from #4 and drove it home. I put a carbed 5.9 magnum in it, it’ll be running for my kids after I’m gone.

What kind of work have they done to it?

@@RV-tm1zr if it’s a 5.7 hemi, it’s probably had the cam and lifters done. Hemis have oil pressure issues at idle, it shreds the cam.

Magnuson-moss warranty act

@@06330i Correct.

This is 100% correct and was the exact comment I came on here to post.

@@JDONUMBER7 I've fought and won a claim before. Only cost about $500 in lawyers fees but that was years ago.

What brand you drive now?

@@canalesivany I got a Ram but after two years the transmission went out so in 2015 I got a Tundra 5.7 crewmax with tow package. I still have it with 109,000 on her and no problems. I’m liking this Toyota thing except the mpg isn’t so hot. 17 highway and 8 or 10 towing.

@@Bunkysworkshop ram is bad too, Toyota here too!

@@canalesivany We’ve been impressed with Toyota for a couple of years now. The other car is a Toyota RAV4 with 162,000 and still going strong. Toyota seems to be making some quality vehicles.

@@Bunkysworkshop my uncle 3rd gen Tacoma have 200k miles cero problems!

they are the WORST

Yup. Required subscription to on-star that costs 3K every 3 years? No thank you!

It’s been a known problem for over ten years. Why anyone buys gm these days is beyond me. Their small overhead cam engines love to chew cams and load the material into vvt solenoids.

But did u have it on video

He said he had warranty work denied on two trucks. Idk how anyone could stay loyal to a brand if they treat you that poorly.

Chris, you better hope you don’t have the well known hydro boost problems, or the turbo manifold issues the egoboost trucks can have. They’re fun as hell to drive, but expensive to fix.

@@throbbinwoodofcoxley6830 🤞 nothing major yet. I bought brand new in 13 and just clicked over 130k miles this week. Overall been a really solid truck and hope it continues since I can't afford a new one!! The next will be a F250 Powerstroke and they are stupid expensive right now!

Exhaust and wheels don't affect the engine? Yeah, you're a real automotive engineer.

Bigger tires + more rolling mass= engine works harder. Exhaust changes how a engine breaths. But ok master tech.

@@kevinmeldrum1 Dude, we’re talking small changes here. An exhaust isn’t going to cause that much of a difference. Just let’s it breathe better. Sure wheels make the engine work a little harder, but no harder than towing evan a small load?

@@brandondarnes3699 I agree, but it's still a change. The dealership is treating a customer poorly, and they should repair his truck. But they will use the tires and exhaust against him. Which is BS.

Congrats you now have a half size pickup truck that can't really pull shit and has zero room inside the cab lol

@@breezentheosescapades8769 perfect for me now nobody gotta ask to borrow my truck to tow something and I don't gotta taxi people around , absolutely perfect.

Same here. Our Chevy Malibu was complete junk. Sold it, got the wife an Acura. No problems so far. Then older Monte Carlo trans crapped on me at 130,000. Needed a truck and wanted something that lasts. Bought a Tacoma, love this truck. 21,000 miles on it and no problems so far.

Yea Tacomas are one of the best trucks around. I abused the hell outnof mine and it still kept going and going.

@@icantsaywhat my brother has beaten the dogshit out of his ‘98 taco, it’s a glutton for punishment. That 5vz is indestructible.

That engine has been around for awhile.. it's been a known issue with lifters..

@@moosc are you saying he should have researched it more or they should have told him if it's a known problem yeah wow that's bad still guess it's more of a lemon thing. Lemon laws the whole country for vehicles if is defective as his you know the whole motor.

And all he'd have to do is deactivate the trucks Active Fuel Management system, and his issue could be fixed. But I'm not so sure he wants it to be fixed, otherwise what would he post content of? More stupid Karen BS? Bobby likes to come here in search of the ever so elusive 👍 But for this video, he gets a 🖕from me. Its such an easy fix, that after all this time you have to start to wonder, why wouldn't he just roll his sleeves up and fix it already?

@@jrfairclough4291 you're telling the wrong person this you need to be telling him not me click on a link to him instead of me if that fix will actually help thank you for being so positive thank you. ✌️✌️✌️✌️ Thanks for coming back with a positive reply after my post that was nice also after that I went to sleep. I had a long day and a long night. 👍👍👍👍

I did tell him, told him this several videos ago. That's why I don't think he actually wants to fix his issue here.

Do you know if mpg stays the same ? Also requires retune I think these 2022 are blocked from tuning

What's sad is GM pays for it. Doesn't even come out of dealers pocket.

I think they ditched the AFM motors in like 21 maybe?

@@Danman1972 You are correct ! I just looked it up and it seems it is just in the 4 cylinder . Well hopefully its just a freak lifter problem and it not a major problem with a bunch of trucks sold already .

@@ryantannehill4060 My 08 has 265K and climbing on it... with the AFM. Motor is stock. First year maybe? That or 07. Don't recall. Looking to replace maybe. Don't know. I might toss another tranny or motor in it. If I do toss in a new motor it will likely have a AFM delete in it. It has issues with warping rotors, just starting lot leak oil. Drinks the oil and gas! The dash is cracked. I dealt with a water leaking in the cab issue (just age). I had a 96 gmc previous and loved that truck. That truck was why I bought the 08. Was hopping for better MPG, but they actually had the same trans as the old one. Combined the two have close to 500K between them. On the fence... currently looking at mid sized.... just not sure. Its defiantly decision time... sell now or sink some money (trans and at some point motor). I can't base it on MPG alone as the difference in what I get (14.5) verses new mileage is maybe 600 bucks a year? Just hate that a day ride with my dirt bike in the back is currently close 100 bucks or has been this summer at my favorite spot including gas for my dirt bike bike or park entry. Let alone the 14 hr (each way) haul to ride in the mountains were its cool.

Gm "we're in the business of making money. We make money by building cars"

@@williamsinger4124 We make money building shitty f'n cars...

@@sykwookiee plain pitiful ain't it? I have a 92 formula WS6, a 91 Beretta gt that I've had since 97, an 89 Z24 convertible, among others that simply do what they're asked with very minimal complaints. Nowadays you're lucky to get 100k out of a gm product.

@@williamsinger4124 I've always had Ford trucks and Pontiac/ Chevy cars...still have my F150 I bought new in '08...my sons Chevy 1500, new in 2010, is in the shop more than it's in his driveway...he keeps telling me how much Ford sucks...ok...my cars have been sold off, but I hear that the '67 Bonneville is still running mint...and the '72 Chevelle as well...I watch a lot of RU-vid car guys who are Chevy all the way...except for the tow rigs that are stone reliable, Ford, Ford, and Ford....I'm not a brand loyalist, I drive what is reliable...I love all the fast hotrods from all of the manufacturers, but when they break, me and my Ford truck go out and drag their shit home...

@@sykwookiee I have a few Ford products as well. And a few Japanese too. Funny how people will shit talk a certain brand until needed huh.

True he should try

It feels like all of this is made up for views honestly.

It’s simple don’t ever buy a Chevy buy a Ford Toyota etc just not any gm products

Bro, it’s been a problem since they brought out displacement on demand. The 5.3 is notorious for it as well. GM sucks lately.

No

@RFRacing717 unreal. I called a lawyer. They don't want to cover mine because my family has a shop and they did the oil changes. They said there is no proof the truck was serviced 22k miles. I changed the oil every 4k.