@@comcat8524 literally just this. Like Mac definitely probably has some shit going on at home that he’s acting like that, but until you’re 16-17, sometimes later, most people haven’t developed empathy past feeling bad for someone when something bad happens to them. It’s hard to see how damaging your actions are whenever you think you’re the main character and the world revolves around you.
This conversation actually horrifies me. How would she tell him that she changed her mind? He talked about hurting himself, hurting “someone” else, and she has to deal with him at school too. I wish that when I was in middle school people would acknowledge that little boys are still capable of doing actual harm
It reminds me of my time in middle school where almost exactly that sorta stuff happened to me with one girl. It sent me in and out of a mental health hospital because of the trauma and some undiagnosed and untreated mental health issues of mine. She made these stories up that made me feel bad for her but they weren't true. She would tell me stuff about her hurting herself or worse and I tried to help as best I could but it was really overwhelming. I never told her about all the times I tried doing it myself. She just knew I was in the hospital for like a week every once innawhile. I only liked her because I thought she and I could relate on that shit but nah, I found out years later that she was fine, and it was pretty much all fake on her end.
No cuz this happened to me except like we started dating but then he started moving rlly fast and kept telling me he was gonna ____ himself and that he would if I wasn’t by his side so uh-
Right!?!?! The fact that they were goofing on it made it even more terrifying. I'm glad this girl has evidence because this was so manipulative. It was harassment. That young man has some issues I think need to be worked on. Maybe my perspective is different because I'm in my 30s. But this text exchange sent a shiver down my spine. I commented, "Imagine if this was an adult man saying this to an adult woman." They would not have the same remarks, I think. Maybe I am being too sensitive, idk.
This kid is following the TV uncle advice of "I just wore her down enough until she said yes" and is living proof of why that should never be listened to
@@kale1873 at one point people had to realize that telling kids to constantly harass women "until they finally say yes" and making them think that that is the wholesome way to go was a bad idea
@@kale1873also how I got sa'd. we were both 13. i think he was mimicking how his dad taught his mom. we need to teach children right from wrong or it'll never get better.
@@kale1873i'm sorry you had to go through that.. as another commenter pointed out, this kind of behaviour is justified and reinforced by gender roles. we all gotta stand together and hold each other up, believe victims
This is actually really disturbing behavior for a middle school aged kid. This boy was love bombing her in an attempt to push her into a relationship that she was not sure about. The girl clearly expressed boundaries by saying that she needed time to process the possibility of dating him. Yet, he repeatedly crossed those boundaries by saying “I love you” or “we should be a couple”, then apologized. People, please, be aware that this is actually a manipulation tactic that some people use to see if they can cross your boundaries and how far they can cross them without you cutting them off. I hope this girl talked to someone and told someone besides the internet.
and thats not even mentioning his blatant threats of self harm and worse. Those type of threats are only made to lock someone in by making them feel like rejecting them will lead to you being responsible for their death or sh
i dont think he's aware how manipulative he's being. if he's serious about how bad he feels then he just sounds bpd to me (i have bpd myself). like she should remove herself from the situation for sure, but i hope he finds someone (preferably a specialist) who works through shit with him before he grows up
Women have literally been shot for declining to give a man their number so I don't think it's fair to say she should have set harder boundaries. She's visibly uncomfortable and he's being straightforwardly manipulative. Yes they're children, but we socialize people into these toxic gender dynamics literally from the moment they are born and kids absorb & reflect the behaviour they observe in the adults and culture surrounding them.
100% agree that women are still in danger even when they say no, cuz its not as simple as ppl make it seem, however with this, theres a slide near the start where she says 'i want that with u, i do, but ur moving too fast' or smth and i feel that is a weird thing to say to someone that u dont like and dont want to be in a relationship with. in some situations women try to be nice to a man to gently reject him or even play along because they are afraid but as stated, they are kids and its over a text. she has parents, teachers, friends etc if he ever did threaten to do anything (either to her or himself ,as he was talking about offing himself). but personally i doubt anything would happen, hes just a strange kid idk
@@00freeze i don't think she didn't like him. she did reject him at times, while also stating that she wants a relationship. as you mentioned, she also talked about how hes moving too fast. i think how she reacted was 100% justifiable. she liked him, but he rushed it too quickly and i think it's possible that that made her lose feelings. for most of those messages, shes not in any danger and needs help.. to me it just looks like shes beginning to lose feelings because he keeps trying to pressure her into a relationship. she could maybe want a relationship with him in the future but she does not want to rush into it all. that little boy did not respect that and ... it looked like she truly did not know what to do at that point.
@@rowan1o1o ohh that does make more sense looking at it that way. i assumed she didn't like him at all so i thought the message about 'moving too fast' was weird and a bit mean if she was 100% not interested. but yes she probably did like him in the beginning which might've be the reason they were even having a conversation about dating. after posting this tiktok though i doubt she has any feelings for him now 😭
yes, but we should not be so harsh on the other kid. he is not an evil manipulator, he is a well-meaning child affected by the same dynamics he has observed in the adults around him.
Sadly it's not just sons we need to teach boundaries to its women to, I dated a girl in middle school I was into her a lot but when I said I was bored with her (like any middle school relationship is) she acted just like this ducky guy, emotionally fucked people find someone to become their favorite person and hurt them badly
@@goblinhunt8326 No doubt dude. I was born in 1988 and I had my fair share of manipulative women who would prey on my treat others as you'd be treated side... they'd lay into me for not caring and say they'd hurt themselves if I left etc... that's not healthy lol.
I could never imagine the pain we would have been going through if he hadn't said us. it is truly an honor and a blessing that he said us, and we, the viewers, are all incredibly grateful for it. he said us!!
Unfortunatly I would like to believe these texts are between like 10 yr olds but I also knew juniors in high school whos texts were even less comprehendable
I have to agree since this guy I was briefly friends with in my junior year texted me pretty much the exact same way, so if you told me these were high schoolers I might just believe you.
im gonna have to guess that they're at least around 13 since he was sat drinking coffee and she was knitting, those arent really usual pastimes for 10 year olds
I dated a girl in college who wrote like a middle schooler trying to be cool with emojis to the point where I had to re-read a lot. When I told her I didn’t want to keep talking(completely unrelated) she corrected me on a misspelt word (and told me if I want someone more mature to date people my own age/called me weird for dating an 18 year old, forgetting I’m only a few months older)
It’s the fact that some people in these comments don’t see the issues with Mac’s texts 🤦🏻♀️ if you’re one of those people, please go to therapy as a public service.
"He's just a child, that's what children are like. 😌" TF? No it isn't. This guy needs a serious talking to before he gets older and starts abusing people even more seriously.
The whole “he’s just a kid” is the exact reason we’d should be shutting that shit down, teach them young not to behave like this so they don’t end up in jail as an adult.
@@carnuatusthe "go to therapy" line generally isn't really meant to be taken literally... It's just a way of saying that you need to check yourself. I don't think OP genuinely believes therapy would fix this. The kid in question should be publicly put on blast and embarrassed for this and THAT is the real "therapy"
13:03 yeah that's the moment it stop being funny for me. Had a person claim me as their reason to live in elementary/middle school. but they were a high schooler. It's all fun and games until you're a literal child losing sleep about whether or not you'll be the reason a person you care about harms their-self. Whoever this girl is, I hope she told someone close to her and/or someone close to this guy. Lord knows I should have.
I remember myself in similar situation in 10th grade. Bro had massive crush on me and would not stop texting me. Especially about how depressed he is. He confessed and then said that I’m the reason for him being depressed. And then that he wants to kill himself. I just went straight to the school counselor and showed the messages.
I wasn’t a high schooler I’m a actually a year younger but I cringe at myself when I remember how I was then and how I acted with my girlfriend I’m afraid I was manipulative it’s scaring me
Dude having been in a similar position before I feel nothing but sympathy for this poor girl. It's really hard to navigate what to do when this person you just wanna be friends with is constantly pressuring you to be something more and threatening harm on themselves, especially when ignoring them isn't an option because you still have to see them every day. It's extremely manipulative and I wish nothing but for this guy to grow out of it
@@carolineclarke5067 Oh absolutely. Unfortunately in my experience the dude was a senior in high school, a legal adult while I was a freshman which kinda made it more weird, but being as a young age definitely changes a lot
It’s a lot to assume she wanted to be friends with him after a certain point. She pretty quickly stopped giving him more than one word replies and he should be able to read that but obviously he has some kind of social issues. And then the fact that she posted it in tiktok for millions of people to see with the caption “weird ahh kid” just shows she doesn’t really care in my opinion. Which whatever, they’re obviously both immature. She can’t set boundaries/go to an adult and he can’t read the room or see that he’s exhibiting manipulative behavior.
@@SwiperNoSwiping304 Same! in my case we were both 16-17, so at least there wasn't a huge age gap, but in addition to stuff like this (and threatening s*lf h*rm and worse) they took control of my entire group of friends (who didn't know what was happening and thought we were "cute together") and tried to use that to manipulate me... They definitely needed professional help, as does this person,, and it can be so hard as a kid when you want to remove yourself from a toxic situation, but are convinced your actions will cause something horrible to happen. Luckily in my case they eventually moved on (after I outed myself to the whole school long before I was ready lol) but we were still in multiple extracurriculars together, so its so hard... but I hope that anyone in this situation knows that they are allowed to leave it (and should)... also I hope you are doing well now, this sort of situation definitely sticks with you!
Ooooh yeah so I'm a therapist and this reminds me of a middle school boy I use to work with. He was a great kid, but I always had to be like "Well it's great that you really love your girlfriend, but lets think of some additional reasons to live, because that puts a lot of pressure on her"
I blocked out all my memories of being a cringe incel “nice guy” with restraining order rizz, but this video really hit me hard in the cringe zone because I did all this stuff when I was a kid. I hope this kid grows from this like I did.
we've all been socialised to behave in toxic ways and what makes a person redeemable is their ability for self-reflection, accountability, and growth. power to you dude, hope you can help others unlearn the way you did.
I think a lot more of us were more toxic when we were younger than we'd like to admit. I definitely had some bad traits too I carried from my trauma that I had to overcome. What matters is how you handle it and grow from it.
Dude same I was literally exactly like this in middle school. I had a lot of emotions (and a severe lack of unconditional love that I desperately hoped to get via a romantic relationship) but I was never taught healthy ways to cope with those emotions nor was I taught ANYTHING about recognizing other people’s emotions and that consent means a firm “yes”, not a lack of a “no”. I never like did a crime on anybody but I did like hug my middle school “girlfriend”.
yeah. my first girlfriend in 6th grade would self-harm and send pictures of it to me, & told me she was going to jump off the roof of her house if i broke up with her
To anyone watching this in middle/high school or even college, if someone threatens to harm themselves, especially like the texts in the video, IMMEDIATELY tell an adult - whether that be their parents, the school, the RA, etc. It is way above your friend pay grade and you do not have specialized training. You may feel like a narc, but it is better for you and them to get an adult involved. Someone saved my sibling's life by telling someone and I've helped multiple friends by getting professionals or parents aware.
!!!! THIS my older brother died bc his friends didnt tell a trusted adult!!!!!!! your friend may be pissed at you in the moment but EVERY TIME that is better than them dying!! please stay safe yall
yes absolutely my bf went through a similar experience with his ex saying she would k*ll herself if he didn’t talk to her and I had to get it through to him that he doesn’t deserve that. No one deserves to go through that (either side) and someone of the correct authority needs to be told asap
Absolutely. It is NOT your responsibility to keep them from hurting themselves, but it IS your responsibility to take the appropriate actions. Please do not let someone manipulate you in this way, it is dangerous to your mental health! Let adults and/or professionals handle that situation even if it feels scary.
I experienced this kind of thing several times throughout my life. This shit continued to happen to me into adulthood years and I expect that I would continue to come across it had I not gone to therapy and learned how to grow and protect myself from people like this. Unfortunately these kinds of guys *never* grow out of it. They get better at it. Last time this happened I was in my mid-twenties, about six years ago. I was working an office job for a mortgage company. A "professional setting". A coworker got so weird and pushy with me. A manipulative little shit. He eventually started talking to me about "our friendship" (huh?) and wanting to take his own life. It was insane. A grown up reflection of the sick boy in these messages. And I absolutely did find his mother on Facebook and tell her. He came into my office the next day and cussed me out, slammed the door. But I never recieved another message nor look from him again. I *should have* gone straight to HR but as another commenter mentioned, this stuff comes with varying levels of embarrassment and guilt. It plays on your decision-making which is *an intentional outcome.* Tell their mothers. Their bosses. Their whoever. Tell anyone. Do not keep it to yourself. This shit has to end.
it KILLS me to see how women are raised to constantly reassure and validate men even when we're not interested at all and the men are crossing all boundaries. Like the amount of times I've tried to tell female friends to tell someone to fuck off or just stop reply or block someone who's bothering them and they're like "no 😢 I need to be nice" which, also understandable because men are known to murder women who reject them 💀 we live in a society
@displayname2198 it is, I remember a kid at my school who decided to confess out loud and when the girl refused the teachers were sad and asked to the girl why she said no, when all they had to do was to stfu, and other kids kept saying that she was mean for this, now, this is anecdotal but if you research a bit women are more pressured to say yes to a man socially, if you say "no" you are prude and mean, so there's really no option b, even at home women are expected to stay with their man even if abusive because they feel like people don't understand him and they need to stand by his side, you can see reflected in the gigantic amount of young adult books where the love interest is mid and an asshole while the girl is supposed to help him, what op is saying it's not "women are biologically or naturally mentally less ready to say no to a men" what they said is that society will press them to say yes
@displayname2198no… it really really is. Women are conditioned to just be sweet and polite to others (ESPECIALLY MEN) because it’s our job to be people-pleasers. Ever wonder why women get beaten, r*ped, and WORSE for denying men’s advances? Because society teaches both parties that women should be polite and agreeable at all times, and that if they don’t, they’re a bitch for “disrespecting” a man. Men get what they want, and women are supposed to smile, shut up, and deal with it.
I was pretty deep in religion in middle school and my texts to my friends preaching the gospel when they were having mental health struggles is BEYOND painful to read omfg. I’m not religious anymore and have since apologized to these people but my god it’s so hard to read😂
if your take away from a situation where a girl is being manipulated is that her correcting his grammar is traumatic ... that is a big red flag. like I know it's a joke, but if your first response isn't empathy for the girl you need therapy (not an insult, rather a genuine suggestion)
@oliverse404 My take away was definitely empathy for the girl. I have 2 daughters and worry about them dealing with stalkers/creeps in the future. My joke was targeted just to that portion at the beginning of the video. I actually wrote that before the video got to a disturbing level. I meant no offense.
When I was in middle school and early high school, I was the green texts and the guy I was "seeing" was the white texts. He caused me lifelong trauma by using me as a therapist and telling me he only had me to stop him from unaliving himself. And every time he would "attempt" and I didn't answer his texts quick enough, I would blame myself. Thank god when I was 16 I cut him off (and he's still alive to this day, from what I know), but please, to anybody in this situation, GET OUT, THIS IS ABUSE
oh my god i had friends like that, it was horrible. I truly thought i was their only lifeline and that i held all the responsibility. Luckily i did get out of it but boy oh boy did it do a number on my mental health for years
Holy shit I went through a very similar thing but I was only like 11 at the time, he threatened to kill himself and would send photos of his self harm so I knew he was capable of it, but whenever he would guilt me and ask if I was self harming (which I was) he would berate me for it. That was my second ever relationship and I was terrified.
same thing happened to me in high school!! i was always clear i didnt like the guy but he would constantly try to get me to date him and tell me i was the only thing keeping him alive (and would sometimes text me to talk him down from attempting, and then not respond for very long periods of time, sending me into panic attacks cuz i thought i wasnt good enough to save him or whatever) and even had to get him 5150'd once. also, when i wore this one pair of heeled boots it made me taller than him and he told me to stop wearing them cuz he wanted me to be shorter than him so i started wearing them more :^) aaaall this to say you arent alone and im sorry you had to go through this too
Agreed! I had a "friend" like that and it was so mentally exhausting having to check in on them constantly. I was their emotional crutch and it did give me trust issues, even major anxiety that I still deal with years later after cutting them off. I'm sorry to see so many other people have experienced this manipulation tactic too. It's fucked up and it happens a lot to young vulnerable kids that are just trying to be genuinely nice. Nobody should ever make you feel guilty like you're responsible for their own issues :(
I feel like you guys aren't stating enough that this isn't her fault in anyway, i came to the video expecting kids acting cringy like bad flirting between two people but it's just some guy harassing this poor girl 😭 like the message should be do not treat people like this, people do not owe you their time or a relationship. Not "learn to give people a straight answer" it's really sad how so many of things just happen unconsciously and i don't blame you guys for thinking that way.
i feel so bad for her. she indicated that she was uncomfortable over and over again and straight up said no multiple times as well. but these kids are obviously super young and society/media has already lead them to believe persistence and pursuing someone until you finally wear them down is an admirable thing and firmly rejecting someone you’re not interested in is cruel and makes you a bad person. i’m sure some form of this obsessive, manipulative behavior always existed with kids but it’s worse to see it play out and quickly become dangerous through these poorly spelled text messages.
I was in this position a lot as a teenager but I also had a very hard limit to the bullshit I could take--not on purpose, it was absolutely a fight or flight kinda thing where I'd shut everything down and run. So, there were at least three times a guy said something like, "yeah, I'm thinking about kms if you don't kiss me," and I'd be like "DIE THEN" and shut off my phone. Gotta say, it was surprisingly effective and those three guys are still alive.
I’m sorry you had to go through that, glad that you are ok though, but the scenario of someone going “If you don’t kiss me I will kms “ and someone responding “DIE THEN” is a bit funny ngl
THEN PERISH What an absolute icon you are lol, I wish I was that brave when I was a child/teen, would've saved me a lot of trauma. These types of people are manipulative and aren't going to actually off themselves, this is just the way they make you feel pity for them so you comply with their demands. So good for you for setting boundaries, and also being hilarious in the process!
i’m actually grateful she posted her screenshots with him. an outside perspective is the exact thing she needed to put the nail in the coffin about this situation and hopefully she can find some help if she needs it. and thank god to all the people giving light to this situation as well.
Damn, it's kinda making me sick how many people remember being threatened that someone close to them would harm themselves as a result of their actions. We really need to be making our children aware that This is something that could happen in their relationships.
I had so many boys in school do this to me and very rarely did adults care. Being already afraid of confrontation due to trauma and having to see these people every day was literal hell. She isn't in the wrong at ALL. Some afab people learn from an extremely younge age that saying no-- especially to someone this persistent-- can result in them being absolutley punished for it. These messages are genuinely so eerily similar to some the shit I dealt with in school and I can't help but feel you guys are being kind of unfair and flippant about the situation she's in 😢
@@User-hg1jk genuinely i don't think it's a big deal. most afab people are raised as little girls without any room for gender nuance. same as amab with little boys. like take your language policing back to middle school dude
@@User-hg1jk i guess i see what you're saying. i don't think it was malicious or intended to say anything in particular. i assume they used afab later in the sentence because they recognized that trans men are also affected and wanted to be inclusive. maybe they just didn't think of that when they said boys. i really don't think it's worth arguing about. obviously there was no ill intent.
that poor girl omg! i can't imagine how trapped she must feel bc of that horrific manipulation. it's also difficult because they're obviously still kids, but this kinda thing should be taken seriously - i imagine being at the receiving end of this must really affect your mental health
LMAO dude this was common when I was in middle school and I'm 30. I've absolutely had conversations just as bad as this, boys are woefully under educated in how to be a regular person. Especially the "off himself" omg. Anything to try and manipulate a girl to "like" them
I'm 23, I did shit kids shouldn't be doing in middle school. The texts in this video sound like they're from a super manipulative 10 year old texting their crush.
This young and trying to hold her hostage. Children need to be taught early on that no one owes you anything. Not their time, an answer, their space, and so on.
I feel bad ripping on a kid. I feel like most of us were super cringe in middle school. But wow, holy shit, little guy needs to talk to someone. Prepubescent manipulation station. Understand why the girl felt like she needed to keep responding, especially when he's threatening his own life, but god, she should definitely not have had too, poor thing.
Even as a soon-to-be Senior in High School, I’m STILL terrified of Middle School boys 💀 I remember my experiences with guys when I was in Middle School and it was pretty bad. But now with all these “alpha males”, misogynistic influencers, pickup artists, and those people that give out crappy relationship advice online, I can’t even imagine how bad their behavior is nowadays. Like, at least now the guys at my High School aren’t as bad as the ones that were at my Middle School, so I hope this guy can either grow out of this behavior or just stay away from girls LMAO EDIT : Also I feel like Dev underestimates just how many people in middle school still can’t spell properly 😭 Like even at my High School, there are PLENTY of people who just don’t know how to spell. It absolutely bamboozles me but at least I see them trying! It mainly comes from them having dyslexia that wasn’t treated properly when they were younger (usually because their parents didn’t care enough, or their schools didn’t offer any special accommodations to help)
So you don't have adhd you just like to say you do? If you're not diagnosed with something how would you know. Are you a medical professional? Imagine if I went around saying I have cancer or autism it's the same shit your doing just way less serious. Cringe behavior.
I was in a similar situation as the girl in middle school too and it fucked me up so bad as I got older. It took me awhile to figure out how regular friendships are relationships are supposed to be. I was a loner so I only had a few friendships to learn from. I remember being super overwhelmed while at a Paul McCartney concert with my dad, because this girl who was really into me, and I though was cute, told me she was about to end her life and I started crying. I love the Beatles so my dad was confused. She was just being manipulative, she was fine, but I was definitely not. I had undiagnosed major depressive disorder and generalized anxiety disorder so that kinda stuff fucked me up to the point where still, I struggle today with emotions and bad thoughts despite being medicated. The texts are goofy but I feel bad for the girl because I recognize that obsessive manipulative behavior and wording.
as someone who went through something similar and also is still feeling the aftereffects, i am so so sorry you had to go through that. it really is one of the worst feelings to think you are letting down someone who depends on you when really they are just manipulating you for sympathy
@@chieflingtiefling7257 Thank you. Whatever you experienced, I doubt you deserved any of that. But yeah sympathy is a blessing and curse. I've been told that by my therapist my sympathy can be a good and bad thing, constantly. I just need to know when it's appropriate. It's always good to look out for others and to empathize with them, but not at the expense of your own well being. But I was told this like almost a decade after this all happened and now I have trust issues and that mixed with my anxiety basically breeds paranoia that people who care for me actually secretly want to manipulate me and hurt me. I've lost many friends because of it. So my ability to empathize is all out of wack. I've gotten better after meeting my current partner who has really helped restore my trust in others but sometimes I almost instinctively doubt people who truly love me, over the most minor petty reasons. Even if I still struggle with trust, I know that there are people who genuinely care about you and don't want to hurt you, so I hope you know that too. Even if your mind says otherwise, you're never really alone.
It’s sad that so many people in this comment section, including myself, have experienced something like this. I really hope he learns from this and changes. From love bombing to guilt tripping, it sucks to feel stuck in a situation like this. You still care about the person, but they’re doing nothing but tearing you down. Thats a very difficult thing for people to realize, let alone middle schoolers.
As someone who has been clinically diagnosed with Borderline Personality Disorder, I find the patterns of this boy's behavior over text concerning. I don't think it is good to diagnose children on the internet that you don't know, or even really spread anything about them during their formative years, but it's already out there now- and people are making a lot of judgements about what I see as very maladaptive patterns. If he is anything like I was as a child, then the fears of abandonment, suicidal ideation, and rapid & deep shifts in emotional state are real, and not manipulation. It is a natural coping mechanism to "word vomit" on your "favorite person" to get that deep pain out, and I'm concerned about him actually following through on suicidal ideation if he sees how the internet is taking this. I understand that there are much better coping mechanisms, but that comes with age, therapy, and experience - of which children do not have. Or he could just be hormonal, which is why it is not a good idea to diagnose children. Either way, I honestly don't believe most children have a true concept of how to manipulate and they are just mirroring their environments- so we should be very careful in judgement.
i agree, obviously he is manipulating her but i don't think he has a master plan, he's just desperate for attention and sympathy. somebody needs to get this kid to therapy
Yeah, to me it seems super weird literal adults are reacting to literal children. Like kids are always cringey, we were, but imagine being like 12 and then thousands of people online saying you're cringey - I literally would off myself. Especially when it's ADULTS, not other kids. The boy for sure needs help, and in general this whole situation needs to be brought to adults in their lives attention, maybe the parents can discuss or get the boy some therapy because he obviously has attachment issues, at minimum. It just seems weird adults are making content out of this. Like yeah kids have no idea how to act in relationships, yeah they suck with boundaries and social cues, they're still learning, it doesn't excuse them, but like, don't make fun of them for it. I'm 30 and I still think about the time a friend called me "so annoying" at age 12 (I was). I can't imagine the impact a content creator would have. Like our brains aren't equipped to deal with this stuff. You can't expect a child to have the wisdom of an adult. Idk I just hope Nick removes this video, again, this is something for the adults in their lives to deal with.
@@aqualmsthe first part of the video is funny. i don’t think they were necessarily expecting him to admit he was gonna kill himself lol. making fun of tweens for doing cringy shit is objectively funny, even as an adult.
@@Aj-sn1dp you can make fun of yourself, maybe your friends, or maybe adults and *their* cringy tween posts, but absolutely do not make fun of a cringy teen while they're still a teen/CHILD. Like they for sure get made fun of by people their own age, no reason an adult should make fun of them. Like yes it's funny, obviously as an adult you're like "yikes that kid is cringy" but you keep those thoughts in your head because that child does not need to hear it. They almost certainly hear it from classmates, older siblings, etc. As adults, we're supposed to be a bit more mature and empathetic. Again, as an adult you can explain to a child "hey, this behavior is really not okay." But making fun of them is 😬😬😬 gross
@@Aj-sn1dpThey still posted the video so that honestly doesn’t change much. I like watching Nicks content and sometimes I don’t agree with him on the things he does. This is one of them. I believe there’s a lot of misunderstanding with this topic as a whole. We shouldn’t be so quick to judge and “make fun of”. Especially with literal children. Just because he’s a boy that doesn’t mean he’s automatically evil.
As the kid who was this, I was bullied for years. Called stalker and I convinced myself I was a freak. And then I found out I have an attachment disorder as well as a personality disorder. Autism ADHD depression and anxiety… about ten years too late. But yeah I hope this kid actually gets some help because stuff like this at a young age is an indication of underlying issues.
Idk I think giving some kids a phone can be positive because I had extreme anxiety as a kid so my mom paid for me to have her old flip phone with like 30 some minutes so I could always call her and I think I would've felt a lot less safe without that. This being said when I got a smartphone and internet access I was totally mentally screwed by the internet creeps soooo if people only want to just put their child in a tech free bubble I can't blame them
I feel like all girls went through this in middle school. When I was 13 I had a boy who lived in a different state make me stay up all night on the phone with him cause he said he would hurt himself. Girls have always been used as boys therapists!!!
I was that guy in middle school. It was a mix of severe abandoment issues, neglect, and undiagnosed/untreated depression anxiety and adhd I grew out of it thank fuck but it makes me physically cringe to think about
Seeing people in the comments assess this like an adult relationship and holding both of them to adult standards shows the brain rot the internet has caused. These kids are like 13/14 MAX and they're going on about how he's an "abuser" lol please take some time off social media and hang out with adults
Even if his age is still young, he attempted to manipulated her by threatening to hurt others and himself, even threatening suicide, and as someone who has gone through something like this, that's not something to overlook. He continued to ask and ask her to date him even though she repeatedly declined, it's not okay. He clearly needs professional help mentally, like a therapist. Please do not take this lightly. Young children (boys AND girls) can still cause immense harm, mentally and physically. What he did could have possibly given her some form of trauma if she didn't cut him off.
A few people are definitely taking it too seriously, but there is point to some of what they're saying. While we can hope this boy grows out of this behavior, if it isn't addressed in some way now, there's a chance he'll repeat it as an adult. Hopefully it's just a cringe phase and he'll get better.
As someone who was like this towards their friends when I was 11-13 I will say that he probably has serious mental issues that needs to be treated ASAP
damn this kid is so manipulative. Also his obsession with pet names is really telling/cringey. wants so much power/ownership over other people because he thinks thats a healthy relationship
@@sstjohn96 im in the same headspace like these kids dont seem mature at all yet the things they say and the syntax of the texts doesnt read middle school to me- it feels more like two early high school kids imo
@@sstjohn96 to be fair... they could still be kids even with that info... 😬 amount of kids that vape or smoke nowadays is actually abhorrent (saying this as someone still in school and surrounded by these people)
Young boys gotta learn that just because you have a crush on someone, that doesn’t mean you have an entitlement to their time and energy. It’s a lesson I wish I learned a lot sooner in life.
I had friends like this in middle school. Not necessarily ones who had crushes on me, but ones who would threaten to hurt themself if I didn’t stay up and talk to them or do something for them. It was really scary to be a kid and feel responsible for whether my friend was going to live, so I completely understand why the girl didn’t want to reject him.
I was that friend who would do that in middle school. I was such a horrible person who didn't know how to deal with my own shit other than put it on other people, I'm so happy I've grown and not like that anymore bc damn
Former child here. Being pretty much exactly like this well into high school is extremely depressing and I didn't realize what was even wrong with it until my early 20s. Schools and parents need to do a better job at helping combat social isolation as well as encouraging healthy habits early on.
god i'm so happy i can't explicitly relate to this. the only weird deranged "dating" shit i went thru were entirely online and also unintentionally catfishing (i was a 9 yr old on gaiaonline
i really, really hope this girl can get out of this situation. i've been in one, too, and it's hard to get out and recover. especially when they threaten to off themselves. i hope that kid gets help, too, because clearly he needs some. it's so sad that kids are going through this. but it's also not okay behavior, ever, and that guy needs help.
I remember reading this post like a week or so ago on tiktok and bro. It was literally like watching a train wreck I couldn’t stop reading but I was cringing the entire time😭
I cant believe some of these comments. How is this the girls fault?? This boy is toying with her in one of the most manipulative ways possible, he needs serious help, and so do the people who think hes the victim here.
Yeah absolutely they’re around 13-16, I knew people who talked like this/talked like this myself in some way around that time, being chronically online is sooo damaging to younger people and assuming this is recent I can imagine lockdown made kids depend on texting /ft for social interactions, (Ik how damaging that is specifically because I was homeschooled and friendless at 14 and shit like this was a normal social interaction for me
This video is giving me intense flashbacks. One of my best friends in HS was into me and he texted me just like that all the time, typos and the obsession with nicknames and all. He would be like "I'm gunna call you coconut bc your sweet" and I'd be like "please don't" and I stayed friends with him because he was going through it and really needed someone and thought he was a good guy at the time but bro he was so insistent it was so uncomfortable. Literally just like this
This actually reminds me of the way my abusive boyfriend would text/talk to me when we were in middle and early high school, i.e. being clingy and possessive, threatening to off himself, and continuing to pursue her when she has given clear signals that she is not interested in him. Hope that he leaves her alone. ❤
something like this happened to me in middle school. the worst part is when you actually do like and want to date the person but they act like this. it was always like this
God this brought back so many memories and not in a good way. This is so much what being a middle schooler is like and I'm glad this girl posted these on a blank profile where this won't follow either of them into the future. I hope he wasn't successful in wearing her down because there's no way this would have been a healthy relationship, especially since it sounds like before all this started he asked her out and she said something along the lines of 'i like you too but I'm not ready for a relationship right now because I'm focusing on my mental health' which is an incredibly mature thing for a middle schooler to do, and he couldn't respect that. ultimately, it seems like the best thing would be for her to just give him a blunt 'no i don't want to date you' because it really seems like he won't leave her alone until she does.
I quite literally had this happen to me in middle school. My boyfriend at the time would SH and show me and tell me ab him “getting ready to kms”, he’d use it against me when I tried to break up with him. It was awful, i didn’t know how to set boundaries or get help, I still see him sometimes and it makes me sick (physically nauseous I swear), it was just awful.
I think what kills me most is I know someone like this my age irl. I'm 20. I saw the signs early on and am so glad I had the forethought to keep them a 10 foot pole length away.
I was kinda surprised with how much this video hit me. A had a girlfriend in early highschool who was similar to this and the trauma still affects me. Hopefully this girl is able to recognize the cycle and block/avoid him.
I feel really bad for this girl, I been through this before too. Normally me trying to leave a situation/relationship and they'd threat me with offing themselves. They sometimes downgrade me and tell me that acting different or I'm bad because I'm leaving them alone and nobody else treats them like I do. Being in situation like that feels so manipulating and I really hope he doesn't grow up and act like this irl or to another girls. Boundaries are the most importing in any type of relationship and if you don't feel like you can't talk to them about it, they probably aren't the best person to be friends with if they keep crossing those boundaries or yell at you when you ask them to stop or tell you isn't that serious and it's a joke. It's not funny if you aren't laughing or feel hurt.
Is is possible to minimise the horrible beyond cringe things we do as kids like ever? Like are parents and education slacking on teaching boundaries and consent or is this just a normal rite of passage to unconciously manipulate and traumatise our classmates due to our underdeveloped brains? Like i dont think i learnt anything about consent and boundaries when i was in school let alone from my parents. I had to do my own research.
trust me its not just middle schoolers I have had many grown men text me like that this is the typical behavior of a stalker and attributing it to teens being young and ignorant kinda reminds me of when ppl say boys will b boys
this is the type of content that makes me grateful that i didn’t have a phone until 10th grade my digital footprint is already bad enough thank god i wasn’t up to some embarrassing shit like this
my brain keeps jumping between this is so funny and this is so awful like. in 7th grade i had a very long forced relationship like this and it resulted in ptsd and like this shit can fuck up kids so bad if they r susceptible to this kind of manipulation even if its a 12 y/o doing it. but i wish i still had all the messages because as an adult ik they gotta be so fucking funny
Mac really reminds me of a boy I used to know in middle school. He was two years younger than me (which is a lot when you're a middle schooler), but always acted like we would inevitably get together. He asked me out maybe 2/3 of the way through the school year, and I said no. I didn't really even like him as a friend, but he didn't have any other friends and followed me around whenever he could, so I didn't have the heart to shake him off entirely. He pretty much only talked to me about Call of Duty, or war (Specifically WWII), or conspiracy theories he insisted were real, or he would just straight up trauma dump on me. He also claimed to have every mental illness under the sun. After I rejected him, he started talking a lot about how he wanted to wait longer to ask me out so I would *come around to the idea* (somebody else actually initially told me he liked me), or about how he would treat me so well if we were together, or just generally complimenting me. I pretty much responded in the bare minimum, a lot like the girl in the video. All of my friends hated him and told me I should get away from him ASAP. I'm glad we don't go to the same school anymore.
Dude I’m about to be a sophomore and last year before summer break in eighth grade I had a super cringy relationship with a guy with super cringy text messages similar to this, BUT IT WAS NEVER THIS CRINGE😭😭😭
i actually was in this girl's position a few times and i can say that its really uncomfortable especially when you just want to be friends and made it very clear. its so mind boggling
