I test drove a Premium the other day and I was very very impressed, as much so that I made further enquires with my work about terminating my current lease early and taking up a lease on a BYD Sealion 6 Premium and the answer was yes. My current drive is the Mitsubishi Outlander (full petrol) and I came from a Rav 4 Cruiser Hybrid to that, this was due to wait times on another Rav 4 (2 years at the time). Taking my wife for a look tomorrow and then we’ll make a decision, however I’m already convinced and I recon in a few weeks I’ll be cruising in my NEW BYD Sealion 6. 🤗
@@waynewhite6355 yeah, your impression will be flipped 180 degrees when selling. Get a portable defibrillator and 2 paramedics nearby when you visit the used car dealership
Don't be in a rush to end your novated lease as early termination is very expensive. Furthermore, if you wait a few more months, the Sealion 7 will come out and it makes more sense than the 6. Why would you pay for an entire ICE drive train that you only fuel up twice a year and has the exact same range as the Haval H6 Ultra hybrid but costs an additional $10k?
I'm from the Philippines and bought a BYD Sealion 6 Dmi for Php 1,548,000 ($40,691 Australian Dollars). It is an awesome car wirh an insane price! We actually bought two ha ha ha 😊. An arctic white and azure blue. The dealer also gave us the 7Kw wall chargers for free, aside from the portable chargers ... fantastic!
I saw an arctic white in one of the restaurant parking lots in Perth recently and it was stunningly beautiful. If not for the fact that I have already got an Atto 3 from BYD one and a half year ago, I would definitely go and get the BYD sea lion.
@@yslee1401I certainly hope for you that you were not writing out of your own terribly sad experience of selling your past used Non-BYD vehicles. Non-BYD? Because from your comment, you would never own one anyway!
the cheapest BYD PHEV sells for $15,000 in China and this car sells for $25000 in China so no it's not too cheap in Australia. they are actually making good money. This is what happens when you own the whole supply chain from battery to components to smelter to LCD screens.
The additional price increase might not be due to BYD but costs from sea freight, import tax and dealer mark-up. The Australian distributor is a local franchise and not part of BYD company.
@@yslee1401How do you know that? Is it from rumours or your own experience? A used car can be chosen to be sold in low price for willing buyer and even that it still has value, albeit low, isn't it? So, what do you mean by no resale value?
@@leonchu4330 for people that bought PRC vehicles a couple of years ago and have personally witnessed GWM Utes with around 50,000kms/2 years that got passed on at public auctions for an asking price of AUD2k
@@leonchu4330 why would I want to own one of these inferno traps? Rented one before, horrible ride especially the rear. The rental company personnel told me that they will switch back to Toyota and Hyundai when those BYDs reach 2 years old as they are really expensive to maintain
I have had the sealion 6 premium for 4 weeks and traveled 1726 km. I have used 336 kWh and 10 litres. I have an 8c tariff with ovo so $27 in electricity and $23 in petrol. So $50 for 1726 km. For comparison a RAV4 would go 417 km for $50 assuming $2 per litre and 6l/100km
Definitely a better purchase than the expensive outdated RAV 4 hybrids. However, your real competition is the Haval H6 Ultra Hybrid as it has the exact same range for $10k less. Yes, 1700km in that car would cost $160 in fuel, not $50. However, the $10,000 saving left in the mortgage offset account would take 13 years before our cars broke even at 10,000km/year. You never have to charge a conventional hybrid, in that time you would have had to charge it at least 141 times/year. PHEVs & EVs simply aren't financially worth it, it's purely for the fun of driving in EV mode. Good on you for being able to enjoy that EV experience for much longer.
Love BYD. Korean and Japanese brand took 10 years to have good interior but at 30% more then BYD seal. Chinese car makers are a serious threat to main stream brands which are partially responsible for inflation due to their price gouging.
@@yslee1401 They will when spare parts logistic is running and their mechanic know how to fix them. Resell value are driven by uncertainty as Japanese and Korean deal with them as well in the past.
@@yulusleonard985 BYD ATTO3 battery failure case in Canberra exemplifies BYDs attitude towards honouring warranty claims. Poor owner had to wait 3 weeks and media intervention before BYD agreed to replace the failed battery. The replacement battery only came 3 months later. So much for after sales support. They can’t match the Gold standard of Japanese cars
For those that don’t know, there’s a very good chance these will be Toyotas new hybrid motors as well and will be used in the next generation Corolla and rav 4s. This is technically, well mechanically speaking, what the new rav 4 will bring to the table. The Corolla will use a 1.5 turbo hybrid motor set-up with bigger battery. This will result in more time in “electric mode” so to speak.
@@iBlogGadget publications from Japanese motor magazines have stipulated 1.5 turbo hybrids motors to be used in the next generation Corolla. Watch Kirk kreifels channel. Pretty much the motor in this sealion 6.
2 seconds in and I'm triggered! This is not China's Rav4 It's BYD. You people need to give BYD credit where it is due. Hence why Toyota are now going to use BYD PHEV Systems. You're better than this Tom!
Great video as always Tom. It would be awesome if you did a comparison of this to the outlander phev to try and derive where that extra value sits (if anywhere...).
For someone who does primarily local driving and only occasional trips over 80kms I often wonder what impact the lack of use of the petrol engine has on its long term performance if, say, it winds up being idle for weeks at a time. We only do road trips about 3 times per year on average but for those road trips an EV can be a little restrictive especially when looking for charging options off the main highway routes so a PHEV seems ideal but we may not need the petrol engine much in between those road trips hence my question above.
When I was looking into the Outlander PHEV, I found out that the system will activate the ICE unit as required to keep things moving. It would have a negligible effect on fuel use overall.
You're basically wasting money on this. A Haval H6 hybrid Ultra has the exact same range for $10k less and you never have to plug it in (bigger boot & more features). Either go conventional hybrid or go full EV. A plug in hybrid doesn't make any sense as you'll be lugging around an extra 500kg if you don't plug it in everyday. If you do plug it in everyday, why do you need that petrol tank and ICE drive train to maintain and lug around? Just go full EV with the Sealion 7 due to come out around Christmas and only charge it once a fortnight instead of every second day.
@@Nightster7777 be careful on what you are doing. BYD accused Canberra owner of ATTO3 not charging their vehicle to 80% thereby inadvertently causing the battery to fail while going at 100km/h. Stop giving them excuses for not honouring battery warranty
@@zzz-pe3mp both. BYD Canberra must be whispering Dixie from their behind. The software must be smart enough to guide the owner. Maybe it’s because they are using Huawei’s Symphony OS which is sub-standard by any standard
@@jasonjarvis7623 Sure, Toyota has been making cars since the 1930s. There would be plenty of articles on that. ATTO3 couple in Canberra thought that they bought an electric dream car but ended up with a life threatening nighmare that lasted more than 9 months
Great to see you finally mention proce gouging. You could a top of the line RAV4 Hybrid for under 50k just a few years ago. This car is a return to common sense pricing. Hopefully the established players learn the lesson.
@@candlelarbra5212 RAV4 HEV and NX350H happens to have the highest resale value amongst high volume vehicles globally. Nothing BYD can do to catch up as no one trusts PRC brands
@@candlelarbra5212 only for China domestic models which are low volume vehicle that does not sell well. High volume sellers outside PRC with ultra high resale value does not have any Chinese DNA at all
No one does a ride test for rear passengers, maybe it’s something you can look at. I found This BYD SUV fine in the front but a bit “bumpy” in the back
That's a really good suggestion - for all reviews. I'm also a fan of the original "Moose Test", where the car is fully loaded and then has to do a swerve and recover manoeuvre (resembling the effort you'd take to avoid a random moose on a highway). It's quite surprising to see how many cars have very poor handling when loaded.
@@yslee1401 No that is bullshit. You are on every video about any Chinese car just spewing poison so obviously you have an agenda which is not compatible with delivering thoughfull dependable viewpoint.
Have done 3700km sat in the back, not bumpy at all in the back. Much better ride than my old Forester. And way smoother than over bumps than my Skoda Octavia (bit too firm)
He's pained to describe the good aspects of another wise excellent car.....that's so typical of almost all Australian car reviewers....imagine the oozing praises had this been a German auto
Thanks for the review Tom. It's understandable that this car accounted for half of BYD's sales in August. However, *a significant limitation of the BYD Sealion 6 is the payload: only 410kg!* Once you put 5 people on board, or even just 4 adults, you have little capacity to carry any luggage. By contrast, the Outlander PHEV has a payload of 600-630 kg. Even the CX5 has a payload of 480kg (which is still fairly limited).
@@yslee1401 Don't just make a broad statement without showing us the statistics. The resale of the Atto 3 (being their first vehicle released in the Australian market) is holding up quite well but happy to be corrected.
@@bobbyrodil6371 oh really? ATTO3 owner in Canberra disagrees. Their rusty PRC crapped on them while going at 100 km/h. BYD refused battery replacement warranty for 3 weeks until media intervened. They waited 3 months before battery arrived and another 2 weeks for replacement
Bit of a head scratcher for me is that they saw fit to put an opening panoramic sunroof with a powered shade but didn’t include lumbar support? I was impressed with the AWD Sealion until I got to highway speeds. There was a dull, low frequency thudding in the cabin at 100km/h. It may have been the tires fitted, and I have the dealer investigating. But it would prevent me buying one of these at the moment.
Sounds like standard Chinese refinement. Low speeds they are often just ok but at higher speeds on rougher surfaces you get weird noises and a lot of bobbing with suspension etc.
@@jasonjarvis7623 you did not clean the drain holes as routine maintenance. Read the freaking manual (RTFM). BYD sunroof leaks because it goes out of alignment quickly due to the poor quality of design and manufacturing
BYD selling cars that have been registered in China a year or more, keeping them in car yards to get CCP New Energy Vehicle subsidy, converting them to Right Hand Drive for markets like UK/NZ/AU/MY/SG/TH is a normal practice
@@jy-dj4wl What number? That random 4 digits behind my name? I was wondering about that myself. Maybe you can enlighten me on its significance because I don't remember putting it there
Well the factory tyres are really poor quality especially if you get the more powerful version - expect a ~$1500-$2000 replacement cost if you prefer better tyres for family safety.
@@yslee1401 *shrug* To each their own. My BiL has an ATTO3 and since it was first released in Aust and it's not missed a beat for them and they've taken it long distance a fair bit too so it remains to be seen. All car companies have their major issue - look at Mitsubishi with the 2014 Outlander PHEV battery degradation issues in court.
@@argent10k really, Canberra owner wishes to agreed with you but unfortunately they can’t. Their ATTO3 battery died when travelling at 100km/h. Warranty replacement refused until media intervention. If your BIL loves his family, ask him to drive the ATTO3 himself and put his family in a non-Chinese vehicle
@@yslee1401 yeah I’m aware of the story. It doesn’t change that it is an outlier in terms of statistics. The only real reason for the beat up is that it’s 1) an EV 2) a mainland Chinese company that is under investigation in US and EU. Also, he does drive the ATTO3 himself most of the time. Generally on long journeys they’ll be in convoy with myself in my Outlander PHEV or other other friends lol
The app store only has five apps in Australia, while it can install more than 100 apps in China! Come on BYD, we need more local apps, such as waze, youtube music, etc.
@@SuperCashion not only that, BYD owner in Canberra could not get the warranty claim on a failed battery. After being silent for 3 weeks, media intervention forced BYD to comply. Took BYD 3 more months to return the car to the owner
@@doug4383 as with any PRC vendor, having lots of hidden cost is an undeniable fact. Don’t think many people will use their car from cradle to grave. Wait till the time comes to sell
@@yslee1401 I agree. BYD design still suggest that they were a battery manufacturing company. However, I like their SEAL design. Copied Tesla but looks better than Tesla.
They sell these cars In china for 18,000€ Equiv and they're making a profit from it. I test drove one today base model FWD 38,000€ 62,000aud equiv there's absolutely no way I'm buying in at that price. False leather seats, weird pvc/rubber dash with imitation stitching, it just looked cheap. Small boot. I saw on the dealers computer when he walked awa that it was liated as a 2023 model. They have plenty of stock. I think BYD are flooding the market with older style stock, and that's the reason they all come fully loaded. They just ship over different colours, and it's not made to order. Smells fishy to me, but each to their own.
@leonchu4330 the BYDs net profit on each car sold under the seal U range in china is 1300€ the same range sold in Europe is 14,000€ the mark up is insane imo. Yes there are import taxes and tariffs to take in to account, but ultimately I feel it's artificially inflated too much.
@@Mububban23 if MyCar does that, they are just digging their own graves as PRC cars are just not worth working on due to their poor built quality and rusting all over due to lack of or no rust proofing on the steel body
I don’t like its appearance - it looks like a Cayenne. But its battery technology is truly next generation, and it might feature the best PHEV technology available
@@hipetwa the only other manufacturers that they can beat are GWM, Geely/Volvo/Polestar, LDV and Cherry. In other words, they can only cannibalise themselves
@@jasonjarvis7623 they are dumping unsold BEVs that have been registered by dealers to obtain New Energy Vehicle grants sitting in open car yards for more than a year
Not true at all, this is far superior to the RAV4 in every way except resale value, for now. Toyota can't even compete with their cutting edge, world class leading hybrid blade battery and ICE system that they will copy them for their future cars. It's that's good. Yes, it is new and people will be hesistant so it could take a long time before sales over take Toyota. Remember, when Toyota first came out, they were cheap Japanese junk that nobody wanted.
@@borntruce 10 years? You are overly optimistic. After a year, its value would be no more than 25% of sticker price. After 2 years/40,000kms, they will be worth more at the junkyard
European built to last? Since when? My first car was a Renault, it was unreliable and expensive to keep in the road. However I do agree that Japanese cars are built to last.
@@borntruce those paid supporters of PRC products are running out of stamina these days. Little pink army are also running out of money and not paying those cybertroopers on time. See how long they last
@@vilester make sure you have a portable defibrillator and a few boxes of Kleenex when you sell. You will need both of them. Having a paramedic nearby will be better
Here’s why BYD is so cheap. BYD is more advanced than legacy dinosaurs. Simple as that mate. Just more advanced better research better tech. Not hard to understand. When someone can do something better at a lower price, it’s an extinction event for you hence the tariffs. See not hard is it Carsauce.
@@yslee1401 none of the legacy brands in China has any resale value either. Who is the future. Just need to open your eyes. All the brands you listed are considered trash brands and has zero market share in China. You can’t even give them away. Why do you think EU and US is panicking. They know the score. Btw Mitsubishi is dead. Nissan is half dead. All the German makers are tanking in China. GM same story. Toyota resale value in China is trash. You get the story.
@@yslee1401 you need to look at the windscreen instead of the rear view mirror. Australia is a backwater. All the car brands that are popular are dead in China or about to die. Mitsubishi has completely exited the Chinese market because their product is so crap yet the ppl here lap it up like it’s the best thing since sliced bread. Australia is a backwater. I repeat.
@@kirakira1981 no one really cares about what happens in China. Their economy has faltered and already in recession after the collapse of China Evergrande and Country Garden. Why should hard working Australians be buying inferno death traps that are deemed unroadworthy in PRC?
Ahh.. the poor man's Porsche Macan with a BMW butt. On the comment of suspension during driving being superior to the Outlander, this is extremely subjective as Car Expert showed the SL6 perform worse on their track (more boaty under undulation). I do appreciate the comment at the end about possible CCP shenanigans and the tariff investigations in the US and EU as well.
@@argent10k one will be a very poor person the minute he/she signs above the dotted line. Typical PRC vehicle depreciation is 75% within the first 12 months
This guy is paid by byd for marketing , he keeps saying it's better than an outlander as If this byd can compete with the outlander in refinement and warranty. The sea lion has 3 years warranty on suspension components like shock absorbers, even the tablet on the dashboard has 3 years warranty. Anyone that buys this will get a lemon with no resale value, in a few years. Don't ever trust car reviewers.
Why do they insist on making their cars so ugly? There’s always too much going on, looks so cheap. They are getting better but it just comes across like they are trying too hard.
You saying this interior is better than the outlander? All they did was slap a giant touchscreen on the dash with fake leather. No ac controls or nothing . This is why you cant trust car reviewers, this is more of paid marketing and not a review. You gonna compare this to outlander which is known for good build quality and a rock solid warranty?
@@2012mpe Looking at upfront price alone is very short sighted. The best industry yardstick is 5 year Total Cost of Ownership aka TCO. With non-existent resale value of PRC cars, zero multiply by any number is still zero
@@bens6674 yeah. Being seen in a PRC vehicle is a reputation kamikaze. Even mainland Chinese in Australia prefers those German brands anytime over BYD, GWM, Geely, Haval etc
I drive one, and I don’t care whether you take me seriously. And it’s pretty sad and shallow that you judge someone on the origin country of their car.
Germany started with imitating Britan, Japan started with imitating Germany, Korea started with imitating Japan, every major industrialized state started with imitating others. read more history boy.
@@hynoor7254 Spot on, even Issac Newton said he was standing on the shoulder of giants...while ignorant ppl still think innovations are coming out of nowhere...
