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CHINA AIRLINES Excellent A350 BUSINESS Class | Taipei to Ontario 

Patrick Shea
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Sorry for the short delay in posting! I am working at the upload speed of the Aerolineas Argentinas lounge which was less than ideal. Thanks for y’alls patience
Earlier this year, I tried Starlux (the new Taiwanese boutique carrier) and loved it! I heard so many of y’all talking about EVA and China Airlines, so I had to try those next. I was very excited to try China Airline’s route from their hub out to one of their more unique destinations in Ontario. Let me know your thoughts on the product below!
Airline: China Airlines
Aircraft: Airbus A350-941
Registration: B-18918
Flight Number: CI24
Route: Taoyuan, TP (TPE) - Ontario, CA (ONT)
Flight Time: 11h 34m
Flight Date: June 9, 2024
Cost: $1,650 (Booked as BKK-TPE-ONT)
0:00 Intro
0:29 Terminal 2
3:34 Dynasty Lounge
6:22 Boarding
7:31 The Seat
9:07 Amenities
10:32 China Airlines Background
13:32 TPE Departure
15:11 Menu
15:48 Entertainment
17:09 Best Dinner Service EVER?
18:13 Bed Time
19:55 Snack Time
21:01 Evening Breakfast Time
21:30 Why Ontario??
25:44 ONT Arrival
27:35 China Airlines Name Issues
29:30 Final Thoughts

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2 июл 2024

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Комментарии : 113   
@tally1604
@tally1604 2 дня назад
What I love about your videos is that you don't have an agenda and give every airline a fair shake, even though manufactured drama and klickbait titles would probably get you more eyeballs. Don't ever change, Patrick.
@PatrickSheaAviation
@PatrickSheaAviation День назад
Thanks man! Great to hear that!
@ErnestoRoy
@ErnestoRoy 2 дня назад
Patrick - Love your content! Beyond the typical flight, seat, menu, amenities, and lounge I extremely appreciate the stats, historical facts and heavy analysis providing a 360 degree, holistic review of the airline! Seriously, great review!
@PatrickSheaAviation
@PatrickSheaAviation День назад
Thanks man! Love to hear it!
@ErnestoRoy
@ErnestoRoy День назад
@@PatrickSheaAviation I’m SFO-based as well. (Migrated to Alaska after the Virgin America merger and so now exclusively oneworld.) Hopefully we’ll cross paths in Terminal 1 someday. Continued safe travels!!
@Sydorrah
@Sydorrah 2 дня назад
Love they have different themes at the gates. The inflight food looked delicious.
@PatrickSheaAviation
@PatrickSheaAviation День назад
Totally! A fun experience for sure!
@marioimori
@marioimori 2 дня назад
An American saying "aubergine" instead of eggplant causes me astonishment, Patrick Potter! Thanks for sharing!
@jtinsfo
@jtinsfo 2 дня назад
Excellent as always Patrick. China Airlines is a great experience - both hard and soft product.
@PatrickSheaAviation
@PatrickSheaAviation День назад
Thanks! I definitely enjoyed it!
@gabrielvarig
@gabrielvarig 2 дня назад
I was looking forward to this one! Thanks for posting 🎉
@PatrickSheaAviation
@PatrickSheaAviation День назад
Thanks! Glad you liked it!
@rowanmle11
@rowanmle11 2 дня назад
glad you had a great flight! I commented on your delta video from Seattle into Taipei, told you that you'd like it😂
@stevene465
@stevene465 День назад
Great video Patrick - I flown them several times and they are always excellent
@PatrickSheaAviation
@PatrickSheaAviation 5 часов назад
Awesome! It’s definitely a fun flight
@jimmyjames6492
@jimmyjames6492 2 дня назад
Thanks for the info + video!
@PatrickSheaAviation
@PatrickSheaAviation День назад
Thanks!
@bodyloverz30
@bodyloverz30 2 дня назад
American Airlines used to have a major San Jose Asian hub, in the 1980's.
@elliebeep27
@elliebeep27 2 дня назад
as a Californian I find it so fascinating this flight goes to Ontario of all places! Really enjoyed this as I do all your videos. Love you exploring all these different airlines and sharing with us :-)
@tally1604
@tally1604 День назад
@elliebeep27 me too. It's, methinks, the smallest airport in Greater LA. Much smaller than Burbank or John Wayne, with a lot less domestic connections. But then, San Bernardino and Riverside are now considered their own metro area, separate from LA. In fact, until CHA launched the flight, Inland Empire was the largest metro area in the US without international-carrier operated direct services. Plus, CHA is one of the largest cargo airlines in the world, and Ontario is the SoCal hub for UPS, so I'm sure cargo flights had flown to Ontario from Taiwan for decades before the passanger service begun. So, on closer examination, it makes a lot of sense.
@PatrickSheaAviation
@PatrickSheaAviation День назад
Thanks! Ontario is mostly because of the Taiwanese population of the inland empire. Still fun to see big airplanes in small places
@elliebeep27
@elliebeep27 День назад
@@PatrickSheaAviation It makes sense but is still so weird being ONT is such a small airport! I could just imagine some huge plane coming in to BUR or something lol.
@LBDizzyDog
@LBDizzyDog День назад
@@elliebeep27 Actually, ONT is a much larger airport from the standpoint of its facilities. BUR has two relatively short runways whereas ONT has two very long runways that are double the length of BUR's. ONT is also a major but for UPS and sees large aircraft every day.
@Nobi36
@Nobi36 2 дня назад
A350, im hyped!
@sblue3964
@sblue3964 2 дня назад
Amazing review as always and thx for the history lesson 😊
@PatrickSheaAviation
@PatrickSheaAviation День назад
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!
@botruong4102
@botruong4102 2 дня назад
Thanh you Patrick for uploaded this trip,I have been waiting for couple weeks.
@PatrickSheaAviation
@PatrickSheaAviation День назад
Awesome! Thanks!
@cptpltM2000
@cptpltM2000 День назад
CI is certainly highly under rated, both hard and soft product and safety improved vastly in recent decades. The ROC Taiwan government owns just under 40% of CI now, (down from almost 70% 2 decades ago) about 1/3 via the government owned China Aviation Development Foundation and the rest via the sovereign wealth National Development Fund.
@herenow6953
@herenow6953 5 часов назад
I didn't even know that there was an Ontario in CA - I assumed it was Canada (also CA - confusing huh?! How many Canucks have booked the wrong flight?!) - looks a great service - I loved the finish on the back of the business class 'shell' seats - and the nice touch of the eagle claw lamp- - even it a little incongrous in a modern airliner! You are very knowledgeanle and I really appreciate the time and research you clearly put into your videos - so thank you from London - UK (not London, Ontario lol)!
@get2dachoppa249
@get2dachoppa249 2 дня назад
Seeing how it’s China Airlines, that lamp is probably a dragons foot.
@Peizxcv
@Peizxcv 2 дня назад
I think it symbolizes a dragon capturing the dragon ball as the passenger is literally flying
@PatrickSheaAviation
@PatrickSheaAviation День назад
Interesting. I guess that could make sense
@hungo7720
@hungo7720 2 дня назад
Another superb video Patrick! Ontario is the airport to supplant LAX in LA county for a handful of asian airlines. They purportedly abstain from flying into and out of an oversaturated airport such as LAX. Amusingly, I was thinking of Ontario province Canada first while seeing the title of the video.
@PatrickSheaAviation
@PatrickSheaAviation День назад
Tbh idk if we will see other Asian carriers in Ontario soon. The Taiwanese population is definitely the main draw to ONT
@airfreak75
@airfreak75 День назад
TPE=DTW would be a great route for them with the DL connectability. DL/NW used to fly DTW-NGO-TPE with the 744.
@ChuckConnNYC
@ChuckConnNYC 2 дня назад
Ont is a solid little airport. With the ongoing rail infrastructure upgrade and build going on, it could become much more important soon
@PatrickSheaAviation
@PatrickSheaAviation День назад
It’s always great to avoid the giant airports like LAX. I just wish that these secondary airports became more normal of an option with long haul flights
@ChuckConnNYC
@ChuckConnNYC День назад
@@PatrickSheaAviation Same, def a ways to go still but I think we will see the industry trending in this direction if demand keeps up.....there's almost no choice. I only hope that we continue to build out reliable infrastructure to support.
@gunvaldsandhaland7757
@gunvaldsandhaland7757 2 дня назад
I Have Experience A350 Business Class Amsterdam-Taipei,I Love Product.Great Video And Info
@PatrickSheaAviation
@PatrickSheaAviation День назад
Awesome!
@Aeronpaulalcaraz
@Aeronpaulalcaraz 10 часов назад
Thanks for the info as always. I didn’t know that China Airlines is flag carrier of Taiwan 🇹🇼.
@faizaanniazi1519
@faizaanniazi1519 7 часов назад
Regarding China airlines’ routes in America, you mentioned they were interested in Chicago, Boston, and Atlanta. Which of those do you think is most likely? I think Atlanta could really use them. Are there any ongoing talks?
@Faliyoooooos
@Faliyoooooos День назад
Excellent review I have flown with China Airlines many times, and each time their service has made me feel comfortable and surprised. Although there was one occasion when they forgot my checked luggage in Bangkok, they promptly delivered it back to me the next day. After all, which airline hasn't misplaced luggage before? I'm also curious why, despite China Airlines providing such excellent service, their ranking on Skytrax is consistently in the forties. Meanwhile, Cathay Pacific, which I often find provides average service, has been ranked fifth this year.
@davidbalcon8726
@davidbalcon8726 2 дня назад
San Jose did have nonstop service to TPE that started up just before 9.11 operated by AA. It didn’t last long but I flew it twice back then.
@PatrickSheaAviation
@PatrickSheaAviation День назад
Yea I do miss the SJC days of long haul travels
@kenneth59324
@kenneth59324 20 часов назад
So lucky we took the same air craft and also same seat 😂😂 I was on the flight 6/10 ONT-TPE also sitting on 17K.
@PatrickSheaAviation
@PatrickSheaAviation 5 часов назад
Ha damn almost the same place same time
@DudleyDawson9
@DudleyDawson9 День назад
I’ve had nothing but great flights out of SFO on China airlines.
@PatrickSheaAviation
@PatrickSheaAviation День назад
Awesome! Still haven’t flown them to SFO, but seen them around here forever
@flyingdreams5005
@flyingdreams5005 2 дня назад
American Airlines once operated between San Jose and Taiepi in early 2000s
@perryugalde639
@perryugalde639 2 дня назад
Traveled SEA-TPE-SEA on BR and CI. Favorable experiences, to say the least. Can't wait to try JX. I'll (hard) pass DL.
@PatrickSheaAviation
@PatrickSheaAviation День назад
Definitely a great collection of airlines in TPE!
@alexshea3127
@alexshea3127 2 дня назад
When you try Eva, try departure from Houston
@xjaspx
@xjaspx 2 дня назад
No visit to the onboard Sky Lounge located just behind Business class? Last time I flew CI, the business class Sky Lounge was stocked with Taiwanese snacks, teas, Nespresso, and even had a mini bar. On both their 777 and A350 it’s located by the L2/R2 doors.
@PatrickSheaAviation
@PatrickSheaAviation День назад
Something else for next time I guess 🤷‍♂️
@RN-DNP
@RN-DNP 2 дня назад
Flying into ONT has benefits. It's closer to Disneyland and only 37 minutes (39.5 miles) from downtown LA. Also, the landing fees are far cheaper than LAX.
@PatrickSheaAviation
@PatrickSheaAviation День назад
It has its benefits, but people still book LAX because it has better recognition still. SJC shared the same fate
@theinternational397
@theinternational397 День назад
SJC actually had nonstop flights to TPE at one time: In 2001 when SJC was still an American Airlines hub, American Airlines served TPE from SJC. The route only lasted very briefly and was permanently discontinued not long after 9/11.
@PatrickSheaAviation
@PatrickSheaAviation День назад
SJC used to have a big AA trans-pacific presence… I wish that still existed
@theinternational397
@theinternational397 День назад
@@PatrickSheaAviation It was never a large presence, just flights to NRT & TPE.
@darlawittmier1793
@darlawittmier1793 2 дня назад
Can you get into the lounges with economy?
@dfonseka2120
@dfonseka2120 День назад
How is the load factor on this flight? I saw this one on approach to ONT and I was like mhmm detour but after some research i got to know it was a scheduled flight and was pleasantly surprised.
@PatrickSheaAviation
@PatrickSheaAviation День назад
It was fairly full but not quite as much as LAX/SFO. I didn’t get a good look at economy, but most airlines make the money off business class which was probably around 75% full
@EpicThe112
@EpicThe112 2 дня назад
Looking at the Passengers you would have CI703/704 passengers from Manila NAIA because CI has better service than PR102/103 which is basically the same plane As your Manila to San Francisco trip PR104/105. If you have Hong Konger passengers some see it as CI (中華航空)🇹🇼 A350-941 > CX(國泰航空)🇭🇰 A350-941. Will this beat a DL A350 or not? Excellent trip report, Patrick and for Eva Air TPE-SFO you might use a Hello Kitty gate. From what I can see their they are definitely an improvement from the 2006 era
@xjaspx
@xjaspx 2 дня назад
Dynasty used to be the name of their Business class and why the lounge is still call the Dynasty Lounge.
@dannyong4843
@dannyong4843 2 дня назад
Hi Patrick, thank you for this flight report. I still prefer EVA Air, then Starlux, finally China Airlines. We still have phobia flying CI due to its past accidents which could be prevented. Anyway I enjoyed this flight report and hope to watch your flight report with EVA Air.
@PatrickSheaAviation
@PatrickSheaAviation День назад
Starlux is still my favorite Taiwanese carrier, but I do hope to get an EVA video out soon!
@dannyong4843
@dannyong4843 День назад
@@PatrickSheaAviation I am looking forward, which route will you fly on EVA Air? Their longest flights are Taipei to Houston or Taipei to LHR via BKK.
@jonnieinbangkok
@jonnieinbangkok День назад
The Chinese "brushstrokes" on the lounge walls is called calligraphy; I don't think I'd wanna get lucky with any of United's crew, Singapore yes but not United.
@kevin19358
@kevin19358 3 часа назад
How many hours did you sleep on the plane and did you sleep well on the plane with a comfortable seat? I wish China airlines, Airbus A350-900 have 1st class. 1st class is better than flying business or premium economy.
@aboutplanes
@aboutplanes День назад
Ontario Airport’s International Terminal is so small lol. It almost feels like it can accommodate only one big airplane in one time
@PatrickSheaAviation
@PatrickSheaAviation День назад
Yea basically lol… maybe a couple but like still no other interest outside of China Airlines 🤷‍♂️
@kahunaguruguru9809
@kahunaguruguru9809 День назад
Nice review, could you review emirates business class from jfk to dubai or something of that matter. If you want, I could give some potentially popular ideas for trips. If not and you have a schedule, that’s fine. Cheers from a 14 year old aviation lover. Saying hello from Athens.
@kevin19358
@kevin19358 4 часа назад
5:27, Really, they have Dyansity lounge in Kuala Lumpur and Honolulu? No way, wow. China airlines used to fly to Hawaii with stopover for refuel to fly to Los Angeles. Before the pandemic, China airlines used to fly to Hawaii from Taipei, sending the Airbus A350-900. Unfortunately when the pandemic began in 2020 and even post covid, China airlines stop flying to Honolulu, very sad. Hopefully next year, Starlux will fly to Hawaii for the 1st time, but will see what happen if Starlux announce new flights with approval.
@danalamborn4464
@danalamborn4464 2 дня назад
China Airlines starts SEA-TPE service in 2 weeks, July 14th, 2024.
@onhiatus526
@onhiatus526 2 дня назад
Ontario is kinda like the Narita of LA, it's like a secondary airport to LAX.
@PatrickSheaAviation
@PatrickSheaAviation День назад
I see your point. You’re correct, although it’s a much much smaller airport obviously
@darlawittmier1793
@darlawittmier1793 2 дня назад
I prefer long beach. It's easier to get in and out. Good airport
@clarkvincentga-as
@clarkvincentga-as День назад
Also try Philippine Airlines' A350, too, either from Manila to Toronto or Manila to JFK
@PatrickSheaAviation
@PatrickSheaAviation День назад
I’m holding out for their A350-1000s but then I’ll be back for sure!
@clarkvincentga-as
@clarkvincentga-as День назад
@@PatrickSheaAviation what about their A330? Or their A321neo?
@bodyloverz30
@bodyloverz30 2 дня назад
I am curious, how this compares to EVA as well.
@PatrickSheaAviation
@PatrickSheaAviation День назад
Should find out soon 🤞🤞
@bodyloverz30
@bodyloverz30 День назад
@@PatrickSheaAviation Hope you have fun!
@iancooper2213
@iancooper2213 День назад
Is that a wood pattern or a bamboo pattern?
@PatrickSheaAviation
@PatrickSheaAviation День назад
Good point. Looks wood to me… but bamboo I guess could be symbolic of culture 🤷‍♂️
@loganclarke6475
@loganclarke6475 2 дня назад
They don’t fly to Montreal or Toronto there only Canadian destination is Vancouver - Eva serves Vancouver and Toronto but not Montreal.
@PatrickSheaAviation
@PatrickSheaAviation День назад
Yup. On their bucket list still
@janellek21
@janellek21 2 дня назад
Taiwan is my favourite country in Asia that I've been to, and TPE is a great airport. It's not as big as HKG, NRT, HND or ICN so it's easier to navigate, and it's very well equipped with lounges and dining options. I hope you had time to explore Taipei - it's a very cool city worth spending at least a few days in. What I love most about Taiwan is that it's a great place to experience Chinese culture but without the onerous visa requirements, Orwellian surveillance and hostility towards foreigners you often find in mainland China. I flew CI LAX-TPE round trip and TPE-SIN round trip, and they didn't disappoint. The A333 cabins on the SIN flights at the time were a bit tired, but I heard they've been updated. The 773 cabins on the LAX flights were in great shape. The crew were some of the friendliest and most efficient I've dealt with. I was pleasantly surprised to hear you say "aubergine"! I lived half my life in the USA and I think the E word is about the most unappetising name for a food I've ever heard. The 3 Yankese words I refused to let pass my lips are the E word, the C word for "biscuit" and the S word for "football."
@hanj31
@hanj31 23 часа назад
this is probably the most unique long haul flight in the world. If I lived close to that airport I would considering flying china air and connect at TPE to get to Korea to see my parents. Especially if I can get business class or premium economy. I think China airlines will put you in business class for the regional sector if you fly premium economy and the connecting flight doesn't have a premium economy.
@PatrickSheaAviation
@PatrickSheaAviation 5 часов назад
It’s definitely a fun route. Not sure if it wins the award of “most unique” but it’s up there for sure
@kevin19358
@kevin19358 3 часа назад
12:36, That's weird. EVA air flies to Paris non stop, but not China airlines. Interesting. EVA flies to London and Amsterdam with a stopover in Bangkok, but China airlines flies to London and Amsterdam non stop, which is interesting and weird. Even US flights, EVA air flies to Houston, Chicago and Toronto, not China airlines, that's interesting. 22:12, Hainan airlines used to fly to San Jose from Beijing, but stop flying because of the pandemic and even to this post covid day, no signs of resuming flights to San Jose from Beijing.
@margaretpittman9650
@margaretpittman9650 День назад
Air Europa put my mattress pad on when arrived at the seat.
@PatrickSheaAviation
@PatrickSheaAviation 4 часа назад
Interesting. I gotta try Air Europa
@margaretpittman9650
@margaretpittman9650 3 часа назад
@@PatrickSheaAviation it was my first time in business. I flew from Miami to Madrid then to Barcelona. They were supposed to have a 1-2-1 layout mia to mad, but switched aircraft. It was a 2-2-2. But hey, was my first business class flight, wasn’t going to complain. Service was great, food was great, but I didn’t have anything to compare to, LOLI hope you fly them soon! Can’t wait to see the report.
@composimple364
@composimple364 2 дня назад
9:55 it’s not essential oil. It is hair treatment oil. I mean it does smell good
@darlawittmier1793
@darlawittmier1793 2 дня назад
Check out long Beach airport
@drakenie2654
@drakenie2654 2 дня назад
tried eva air
@kevinfranks853
@kevinfranks853 2 дня назад
Soon sea will have 4 services
@PatrickSheaAviation
@PatrickSheaAviation День назад
It’s fun seeing a new trans-pacific hub in the US. A 4th airline is big time. Not quite the frequency of LAX/SFO but still seeing a good share
@Parkside29
@Parkside29 2 дня назад
With regards to service to San Jose, CA, I feel it would cannibalize their SFO flights. San Jose has literally lost all their International flights pre Covid. Air Premia, Korea, initially announced a ICN-SJC but launched SFO instead. The “business” argument for SJC is a myth. AA tried 3 times to make it a hub, even launching SJC for 6 mths, but failed. IMO, you will not see another TW carrier into SJC.
@PatrickSheaAviation
@PatrickSheaAviation День назад
Tbh I don’t know if cannibalizing SFO flights is the worst thing in the world. SFO is way way way over capacity and they still have big growth plans. If some of these carriers moved to SJC, it could open up most space at SFO for Alaska to grow their presence, or some of the other international carriers. San Jose just needs to grow its international recognition
@darlawittmier1793
@darlawittmier1793 2 дня назад
Ontario is owned by Los Angeles
@garrusvakarian3473
@garrusvakarian3473 2 дня назад
Pretty sure ONT retook control back from LA in 2016
@_autom
@_autom 2 дня назад
die-nasty lounges and endless fake wood accents, oh my! looked like a great trip
@henryweng7572
@henryweng7572 33 минуты назад
Flag carrier? Fake!
@Peizxcv
@Peizxcv 2 дня назад
Seriousely, love you are trying China Airlines but get the name of Communist Party of China and flag of the Republic of China right. Taiwanese flag is something else and not what used to be on CI's tails. Also, CI and BR are about exacly the same in size with one having higher revenue and the other passenger count.
@PatrickSheaAviation
@PatrickSheaAviation День назад
Fair enough
@nonesuchtofu
@nonesuchtofu 2 дня назад
Weird that you got this intermediate step towards hell that is the basement lounge of china airlines in a very empty state. I never experienced any trace of nice or quality food there. I would rather go to any random food shop in this entire airport than suffer this horrible apocalyptic lounge.
@PatrickSheaAviation
@PatrickSheaAviation День назад
Dang that’s wild. I loved the noodle bar and snacks. Not sure why it was so empty 🤷‍♂️
@faizaanniazi1519
@faizaanniazi1519 7 часов назад
Regarding China airlines’ routes in America, you mentioned they were interested in Chicago, Boston, and Atlanta. Which of those do you think is most likely? I think Atlanta could really use them. Are there any ongoing talks?
@faizaanniazi1519
@faizaanniazi1519 7 часов назад
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