You also need to take photo in your own country when you aply Your personal ID. China airport is controlled by government and they can get the face information from Chinese ID system. So there is no difference .
Too bad, as long as you are on a public street, you exposed yourself in the public, everyone can see you. But you can just stay in your house all the time, the problem should be solved.
Every insane, extremist government that's for sure. Let's just hope the few sane governments left have better ideas. Scandinavia I'm fuckin counting on y'all.
Funny enough, while most of the west are terrified, many Chinese actually like the system. If you want to have a nice and peaceful discussion, do not throw bold assumption like “they have to accept it or they get arrested” or “people here have to like it” unless you are an expert on the relating subjects, such as humans society or global politics. I do not accept any argument or rant from someone who comment on the system without personally experience it for at least a year, or have been educated in related area, or only comment based on the hostility against another ideology.
because Chinese are generally shortsighted, can't see the big picture, and don't have the ability to question the status quo. This is typical asian conformity mentality, which is called as 'harmonious society' by the Chinese. lol, btw, I'm Chinese, I know my people.
That’s probably because Westerners have a natural fear of “big government” and rightly so considering history. Tied with “big data” and you have a nightmare of Orwellian proportions arising! Not only that, but the Book of Revelation has predicted a final resurrection of the Roman Empire that will be governed by 10 leaders under 1 supreme leader who’ll probably use similar surveillance technology to enforce his “mark of the Beast” to control all types of commerce (Rev 13:16-18) and suppress all dissenting views.
I am Chinese too, I know my people and I am pretty sure elites among us are not short sighted, and lucky enough, the decision is made by the elites but not the common folks. 精英阶层和知识分子懂得比你我都要多,中国崛起根源在于一个可以不把目光放在赢得选举上的铁拳党派,而这个党派中起决定作用的智囊知道自己该干什么,所以我们才会有像深圳这样几乎凭空出现的城市。这样才叫做目光长远。 但这样的代价就是不能有任何阻力,否则计划就难以实现,同时部分省份比如说东北三省会非常不爽,所以说中国人和党做的一笔交易,完全服从换来持久发展的稳定社会。这怎么就成了目光短浅了呢,相对而言真正的目光短浅反倒是宁可一辈子跪在地上也不愿意放弃个人主义的人吧
在我家乡发生的几起杀人答案都是在三天之内抓到犯人,归功于农村的监控摄像头。in my hometown, the police caught the criminal in A killing case in only 3 days for the cameras in the countryside
Abdul Rehman in the passed three years, there are 2 killing cases in which A few people died by the murderers as I know where I now work , but the police caught them very quickly with the help of the cameras , the murderers just cannot escape even if tried to hide themselves. and the facial recognition also helped catching the criminals in some singer's concert A few times, for me, I think it is helpful for the society
We obviously recognizes the benefits it may bring to public security. But its whether or not the power granted by this technology will be abused that worries the international community.
Not the same. Nope. Smartphone doesnt know if you enter you job, a grocery store, do throw the trash near your home, etc etc. It only has a tracker of your position if you allow the phone. And the CCTV cameras of China are controlled by actual government people. Comparison is absurd.
@@glendjunuslodoli211 Straight up know that for a fact too since I didn’t put in my new job location but yeah if you spend lots of time between two places it’ll figure out what it is and assume usually correctly so where you live and work lolol.
Nice propaganda! I'm a Chinese and I don't even know the camera on the street is powerful enough to recognize people. These cameras have really low image qualities and just record shit and nobody is watching you. Police might use those streets recordings to find suspected criminals if some serious crimes happened. What's more, if this video is not BS, then all criminals should've been arrested since governments know what you did and where are you. I might have been arrested for jaywalking, same as most of Chinese who did jaywalking. Come on, The Economists, please do some real research and stop using your imagination to try to tell the "truth".
thank god, I finally see a normal comments. I have to say that the imagination of those editor is perfect. No wonder America landed on the moon in the last century.
so it's a global issue, if it is true, all the governments can do super surveillance if they intend to. hence, the question should be "who give them admission to do the control?" the phone supplier? or Company that produces surveillance cameras? most important, what's their purpose to collect the data? they use those data for what ? if it is useful to locate the criminals, should it be blamed ? because I believe the government have no interest of the flirting moments between you and your girlfriend. In summary, the technology have no right to harm people, what really matters is people who use it.
The glasses that the police wearing in this video is laughable. I don't know how did the reporter get it, there are just 2 facts: this technology is farther beyond the level human has got now and you can't see any of this in China now.
When I came back to China last year, this facial recognition thing really scared me out. It was only 2 years ago that I left China but now it feels a different kind of like a different country. There's camera everywhere. My face get scanned basically every 2~3 days. There's one time I was checking out at a supermarket, and I saw an option of facial recognition. I was thinking how the hell can a supermarket know my account? But for curiosity I clicked it and it worked. Turns out all the machines on the street knows everything about me. It's convenient indeed but sometimes I'm really concerned about it.
@@westie0113uk it’s still needed for u to sign up, otherwise you cannot pay. That’s why the some of those technophiles, like the older generation, still pay by cash as they have no smart phones.
Most of western countries are applying the same methodology to control and surveillance their citizen via phone, iphone, smartphone and camera as well, specifically US, UK, Germany, French and Australia.
Unfortunately, police there basically don't do a thing. No. I don't think the crime would go down. They probably would find excuses and cover the crimes, tons of crimes weren't even reported. It's only for controlling. Not for reducing crimes. You can't ignore the giant corruption there. Where corruption goes, where good for nothing police follows. But the controlling might actually work.
I mean all these people who like an authoritarian police state should move to China. I rather like the UK as it is, I can call Theresa May shit and not get arrested.
I seriously don't get why news agencies keep on distorting the facts when it comes to state surveillance. it's the same when reporting on the surveillance done by NSA, as with these cameras, they only generate big data, that is stored to be analysed by algorithms and are usually stored for no more than 30 days, neither China nor US government is interested in your email to your grandma or where do you go for your nightly strolls. the whole point of having AI cameras is to turn digital footage from cameras into readable data, so you don't need people to view and analyse the footage, you only need AI algorithms to do so. and 99.99% of the data would be viewed by the Algorithm and stored then for a period of time, without even been seen by anyone in the government.
China is famous for arresting political opposition and dissidents, the possible danger in a totalitarian state is obvious and if you don't understand it you are pretty dumb, there are millions of chinese in reeducation camps just to say one, is also famous for a racism against northern population which have sligtly different genetic traits, they usually ends up disappearing www.voanews.com/a/un-says-number-of-people-in-china-re-education-camps-could-top-one-million/4553722.html
Archeaon again your only source of information being the western news agencies don't know the nuances in the stories you are alluding to. re-education or de-extremification of China's Sunni muslim radicals is a much needed and much supported policy in China. even the often anti-China channels on youtube, you can see tons of supports from their subscribers on the muslim extremist problem.
he clearly understands China very well. In simple words, Chinese citizens are mostly very smart which is why they're mostly very successful in the US. Chinese govt has to re-educate many who can think for themselves, US doesn't have such thing cuz most citizens are either trolling left and right and got no understanding outside of the US, so no need for re-educating the dummies. LMAO!!!
the best freedom you get is, walk freely in midnight and you are safe, if someone robbed you or he didn't follow the traffic rules or he takes a seat on a train that does not belong to him, he will be caught in a week and be in the blacklist. If some company make poisonous food or harmful products. if they caused death, sorry, in China they will be sentenced to death. As Chinese, we understand how important death sentence is.that is what Chinese think freedom is.
I can freely walk where I live and not deal with criminals and there is no mass surveillance here. Just lol at you justifying your suppression and being watched all the time by the gov. No thanks.
Why don't you emphasize on how public safety has been improved? Why don't you interview the majority of people who love and embrace this? Disgusting biased story again!
Lol and why they have to use spooky music in background. They are anti-china so i aint surprised. They trying to fool everyone. They even mentioned oppressed muslims.
lol, China is not even close to the safest country on Earth.. In fact, it's ranked #112 on the Global Peace Index. China is an authoritarian police state. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Peace_Index#Global_Peace_Index_rankings_(2008-2018)
It is such a sad world we are building. I feel sadden for the Chinese people, the majority of whom are poor and enslaved. Greed around the world makes for evil endeavors under the guise of progress
True Status of China Surveillance: most companies are still researching the tech, existing tech are not nearly good/fast enough for it to be rendered useful. Most of the cameras in the video are for enforcing traffic law regulations(you know, make sure you are not running a red light and kill someone). The Economist's portrayal: China's tech is so far ahead of the everybody else, it can do this complex system like nobody could. Funny how when talking about innovation, China cannot do shit, but now China can do all sort of amazing things as long as it fits your narrative.
I love the relaxing BGM, ordinary Chinese citizen's interview, random pics, happy voice-over and a summary speaks out all ppl's opnion, these the western media integrated in every topic abt China. good job bro. respect from China. Go make more.. lol
My Mother and Dad always said that back when they went to China before the Government had put up cameras everywhere, there was a lot of human trafficking. My mom often told me and my siblings the story of how her friend who went to China lost her son at around 6 or 7 years old during that time. A stranger came in, took the boy to a bathroom and changed his clothes, and walked out with him. She said that her friend kept searching continuously for around 8 years. By the time her friend finally found her lost son, *_she left him there in China._* Because her son got his hands or his legs amputated, a common practice to turn children into beggars so they could earn money. Nowadays, my mom and dad say it's a lot safer in China now, you could leave your door unlocked and no one would steal anything.
The group of demonstrators shouting slogans at the beginning of the video,they support Xinjiang's independent,haven't any relation to the face recognition system.It's very stupid to put this into the video. And I have to say,in this world,no government will support the ideas of splitting the country,China is also no exception.Our Chinese people won't agree with them either.
This will also come to corporations and shops. *Face recognition is happening* on the corporate level to prevent shoplifting. Stores and corporations may share their shoplifter data across borders.
Wow. Love and prayers to everyone overseas dealing with this horrible war on controlling human beings by greedy politicians... My heart aches.. I feel so helpless seeing how much this has increased since 2 years ago... these systems have spread to so many countries.. its only a matter of time. Lord forgive us all.
Did you hear what she just said this is also planned for every country in using covid and the cost of living crisis and this fake war to do it if you've noticed now they are now talking about AI which is artificial intelligence
+Crystal Ball well, the CIA does because they protect my right to choose my leaders. Instead of them being chosen for me like China. Facebook, well they are design to turn a profit, and no one really expects them to “protect freedom” I expect them to connect me with friends.
“No one must be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to attacks upon his honor and reputation.”- Article 12 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights
I'm afraid it gets a lot worse than this because this is also plans for the rest of the world, and the endgame is to have a one world government that inslaves all of humanity No person should have that kind of power with a one world government
If they didn't regurgitate these whataboutisms from their state-run media, they may have to actually consider that their government and president-for-life are out of control power monsters
lol, China is not even close to the safest country on Earth.. In fact, it's ranked #112 on the Global Peace Index. Responsible government? what are you smoking? China is an authoritarian police state. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Peace_Index#Global_Peace_Index_rankings_(2008-2018)
Western governments invest in facial recognition The Economist: the government is promoting technological growth and innovative research, let’s go!!!!!!! Chinese government invests in facial recognition The Economist: offending privacy, state-control, totalitarianism......” Smh
You won't get a source because it's bullcrap. Economist Group owns The Economist and they're majority owned by the Agnelli family (Italian), with smaller ownership held by Rothschilds, Cadburys, Shroders etc.
It is pathetic that the lady from the company was kind of complacent in front of the camera about their technology. She would never expect of being exploited by her english friend.
Probably because Singaporeans aren't using CCTV to arrest ethnic minorities for moving 300m away from their home, or imprisoning millions of ethnic minorities, torturing and murdering them. If you think this is a political hitpiece then you're not very good at processing information.
Well, they are not the only one who use facial recognition system. I mean US, France, and other countries in Europe used it for a long time although not that excessive.
Have they asked any Chinese person about this system? If they did they would realize that the average Chinese citizen welcome this . You will see crime rates go down and greater social stability. There’s been countless studies done where it also shown that East Asians value mostly social order and stability well above freedom of expression.
Anti-China propaganda, I have lived in China for decades. The Urghurs have more rights than other ethnicity. They don’t feel the police in Shanghai. And most of the pick pockets in the city are Urghurs. They don’t abide to laws obly better policing can help us lawful citizens.
@@stanvincent4302 They're still human beings. That's why as a Westerner maybe you should start accepting them into your countries. America should open its doors to millions of Uygurs and they will be very happy for sure!
@@whoboo6780 Yes, the Western countries can grant asylum to the Uyguhurs; considering their plight. But I believe it's better for them to seek asylum in countries like Kazakhstan or India as travel costs are significantly less.
@@stanvincent4302 Those are also dictatorships. Besides, anti Islamic violence is on the rise in India. I still think America and the West is a perfect new home for many Uygurs. Better to have Uygurs than Arabs, Iraqis and Somalis. Uygurs would be "genuine" refugees.
@@whoboo6780 You think Anti islamic violence is on rise in india it seems you dont think. India is democratic country some times news agencies cross the limit in reporting by heavily inflating normal news these are generally encouraged by opposition leaders
At the moment, this mass surveillance system is convenient for Chinese people and I know that 90% of Chinese people wouldn't criticize the system. However, we don't know what will happen in the future, it may lead to a harmonious or suppressed society. IMO, this system cannot go beyond the current state.
I really appreciate that The Economist show the world how China is developing in technology, while at the same time I am ashamed that you targeted the development on the wrong point, China uses face recognition to pay which is very convenient, in china, people don't even need to bring cash to shop, with just smartphone you can literally doing everyone, isn't that convenient? In the video, It says to "use face recognition to prevent people from stealing toilet paper" which is totally WRONG, the face recognition is used for those who didn't bring paper to get for free. There is no doubt there will be risks the technology will be used not properly by "some" people, isn't that a process for developing? in the case of Xinjiang, china uses tighter security cause there is "terrorist cases" happened in there, it's not surveillance on the minority but for the safety for the majority. so I am sure China will find ways to tackle the demerits and improve for better lives instead for it "authority power". I hope The Economist can keep critical and precise since lots of people don't really think
I am Chinese, democracy is not in the DNA of Chinese people. As demonstrated by this Otto's ignorant comment. Maybe Chinese people do not deserve freedom, they deserve state control, brain washing and state sanctioned thinking. This guy's response is typical Communist thinking, "you oppose to have your pictures taken so you must have something to hide". These low mentality Chinese really believe this line of Communist thought makes sense. It is frightening.
I have been studying the Truth and you can clearly see the lack of it on peoples faces, it's pretty depressing seeing people forget their creator and have full faith in man
I welcome the cameras and face recognition. Even I flt uncomfortable (which I really don't), I am glad to think my little sacrifice can save innocent lives and provide safety to the society.
The extended report that appeared in the Economist was chilling. Forget privacy, freedom of action, movement, association, or even, as the facial expression recognition technology implies, freedom of thought. If used as intended, the abridgement of freedom already goes too far. If abused, the mind reels at the vulnerability of a population to be cowed into submission, smothered in surveillance, or even eliminated.
Minority Report and Psyco-Pass in a nutshell. You gain safety and security at the cost of your own liberties and freedoms. Are you really protected when the guns that are used to protect you are also aimed at you?
Every country should set up these cameras. They will help catch criminals. I got stolen from on Talbot street in Dublin and unfortunately there were no cameras around to prove my story. That incident made me wish that Ireland and other countries were surveillance states like China. To anyone who would feel infringed upon, you have nothing to worry about as long as you don’t commit a crime and free speech and disagreeing with the government should not be crimes.
it seems like no facial recognition and state control in the west...... and I really want to say, I feel no privacy in Beijing with three or four cameras in 10m......