China's Plan to Clone the Entire Gaming Industry | Asmongold Reacts 

"I never meant to copy, only to surpass" anytime I'm caught plagiarizing

Chinese companies have been doing this for years. In fact Tencent CEO in interview said "copying isn't wrong" but they have no problem with lawsuits for when others copy their products and also pressure other companies to kill off their games after 2-3 years

"I didn't mean to copy, just to surpass" That goes so hard, holy shit!

It is nice that Asmongold quickly corrected the ignorant post of one user in his stream that said Journey to the West is a rip off of dragon ball Z lol. Son Goku is basically based on Wukong the monkey king. Just goes to show how ignorant some people are nowadays. A lot of Japanese games in the past actually are based on Chinese Literatures because they share a common ancestry.

First they clone Elon Musk and then this.

Not OBAMA FRIED CHICKEN 😂😂😂

Believe it or not, actually China used to have a lot of good games when I was a kid, and they are my favourite memories even though I don't play chinese games anymore. Chinese Paladin, Meteor Butterfly Sword, Wulin Legend, Xuan-Yuan Sword, Storm Riders, and etc.

If developers in my country refuse to give me what I want, perhaps my adversaries will.

Chinese lawyers: "all mods are illegal, all copying is illegal!" Meanwhile China in ALL international materials: "It's not illegal. You let me build it or work on it? We own it now!"

Producing games for cheaper doesn't mean that game prices go down. Prices never go down only up.

How to stop Chinese companies from stealing your code: Put in some hidden code that plays the Winnie the Pooh theme song if there is the presence of chinese characters.

There is a good phrase that Phil Knight once said "When someone copies you, is a form of a compliment, but when they mimic you, that's where the problems come".

Next up: how Sweet Baby is a chinese plot to make western game devs self destruct.

That one guy that said an ancient chinese story copied dragonball LMFAO 😂

>"i never meant to be infidel! I simply meant to pass on my genes to offsprings...go forward and procreate"

I'm Chinese. In fact, most knockoff games are not intended for overseas publication. The companies got mentioned, Tencent and Netease, also clone many ideas from our small local indie game studios, causing them to shut down. We hate those companies more than we love them.

Same games but without woke and strange race swapping? I'm in

Many Chinese hoped that Blackmyth Wukong can be a success since this would make the Chinese gaming companies see the market and potential. If they fail, they think the Chinese gaming industries will enter another dark age

Everyone copies everyone until there's nothing to copy. That's just the sad truth of capitalism.

25:15 DBZ was based on Journey To The West, not the other way around. the name "Goku" is the Japanese translation of "Wu Kong".

China is becoming a true parallel universe

ah i was manager for R&D department in a game developer company in hong kong that collaborated with tencent games. we got files of textures and 3d models completely ripped off directly from Japanese games. Its even more terrifying knowing how they got the files. When foreign game companies had to do localization in China, local staffs legaly had to comply with the party and steal business info from them. But how is that going to be organized u ask? well since a few years ago, all companies are required to had a party member on board as board of directors, so the party knows what to look for when certain infomations are key to the business. I eventually resigned from my job becuz i was asked to send away sensitive user data to the chiense servers from the mobile games we made .

yes, you too can buy a chinese xbox that is made of tofu, and will explode like Inspector Gadget's orders if you play longer than 60 minutes.

Glad to see morals get completely thrown out the window cause, "i just wanna play a video game". Amazing priorities.

Chinese call of duty. They'll call it forced service lol

Well their president is a clone of Winnie the Pooh, what do you expect?

This was gaming in the 90's really. Successful games had like 20 clones with minor variations and it was glorious.

the irony of asmongold talking about people stealing content the guy has made a career of stealing content

Tencent owns 16.25% of Fromsoftware, pray they don't buy even more of this legendary developer. Fromsoft needs to remain independent as far as decision making is concerned. The fastest way to clone another company's tech is just to buy that company up outright. That's why a Chinese automaker, Geely Cars, bought Volvo.

Ideas being stolen is one thing. When Genshin was showing Alpha footage, it was literally Zelda Breath of the Wild. Not even changed to make Link look different.

China is beating The US in the capitalism game. LMFAO

Remember genshin impact was once criticized for being a botw clone? Never would've thought it will become as big as it is now😬

Unrelated JRR Tolkien quote - evil cannot create anything new , only twist and corrupt what already exists

AI helps a new artist become better faster, a new programmer become better faster, accelerates how fast a good artist or programmer can make things. I expect it'll help smaller studios compete.

I see no problem with cloning. Its been happening for literally all human history. One tribe saw a bow and arrow, and do you think they will not use it because of ethics and then try and create their own weapons? No. If it works, and they can re create it, they will. That is not a problem. As long as you provide greate customer service and upgrades, you will still be on top. This is what companies should do instead of complaining and whining. You can't escape copies of good ideas. Also many people get the same ideas for so many things and just because one person made it first shouldn't restrict another person in some other place to create something very similar. Ideas have major limits and can only go so far. Often similar ideas are born when 2 people who are completely isolated see a specific problem or are influenced in a similar way. There have been studies of this. For example, in one study, they got a few artists and drove them through the city without telling them why they are doing it. Then they asked the artists to paint a picture. Guess what happened? Most of the artists end up painting a very very similar painting of the things that were placed on rout specifically to catch their attention. All of the artists thought their painting was original to them and was their own thoughts expressed.

The gaming industry isn't the only thing they clone. They literally do that for everything including business models, shops, movies, everything. The result of lack of creativity and knowledge, but lots and lots of money.

"while Western Studios take sweet sweet time...." and somehow they still fail most of the time (day 1 patch ? game is service, botched launch etc ) how....

One part missing in this analysis is that western games in the past didnt support their game in chinese languages, this caused the initial copies to spring up, you couldn't buy them in China because it wasn't published and if you did get a copy, wasnt in theie language. If you lead big and publish directly support the language a copycat is no way going to win as big a share they could if you dont even go into the market in the first place.

People don't understand that China may feel pressured to get to markets fast, but are just fine with taking it slow when it comes to becoming a global power. They waited over 100 years to take Hong Kong and have plans to take #1 position globally.

well where the hell is China GTA 6

To play some of the 3A banned Steam games, many Chinese players would rather use VPN and become other country's citizens, Argentina is especially popular among them since their game prices are lower than in the Chinese area. Many Chinese are hyped to see black myth wukong, since they really want to play Chinese 3A games, but some are also scared since they are being scammed by many Chinese developers all these years.

something to note is that, paladins was in production prior to overwatch. It's a shame that they get called the clone when they started much earlier then them

the one who commented that black myth wukong is based on DBZ must have been mindblown.

23:22 the "west" in journey to the west means india, not western countries

she skipped over the fact that that piano tiles game is also a clone of smule magic piano (at least the way it's branded anyway. i can't speak for how it feels to play)

"You tellin me obama fried this chicken?!"😂

Beginning of movies back in the 90's:"You wouldn't download/copy a movie would you?" China: *looks nervously* "N..N...Noo?"

You can't get ahead when you're always following the leader 🤷‍♂

Cloning games would just reduce the value original works. Who wants to play the same game 300 times over other then gatcha and battle royales.

KFC is a big brand i still dont understand why they didnt have some of the KFCs in Japan and the United States give support to Genshin. Cosplaying as Klee and having some decorations for a couple days would have been fun i think for some of the servers and the people who were sitting down to eat.

there are research on Chinese government limiting children play time, according to research it did not have an impact on play time. Children used someone else's ID and played anyway

My favorite quote from Booker T in WWE as commentary. “If you ain’t cheating you ain’t trying.”

Just fyi: you could always buy consoles in China. You just didn’t buy them at a big store. You had to go to a little shop w a guy who would sell you a jail broken Xbox and load it with games. They’d break or have problems, just take it back to the guy. Very cheap way to get a lot of games.

I love how people still to this day claim paladin's is a overwatch clone when paladins was in development before overwatch and someone from the paladins team had left and joined the overwatch team

The thing about ai is some of the early adaptor companies that do it can be working on their 2nd or 3rd game project by the time another company that isn't utilizing is still working on the 1st. Imagine working on a game teasing it but it takes like 2-3 years in the creative/asset pipeline but then a game ai clones it whilst your still making it. Everyone has a million ideas its just wherever they have time or resources to make it pan out.

Clone their entire clone industry. Problem solved.

Cloning does not necessarily mean getting the same result. Metastasis was a clone of Breaking Bad and it was honestly such a poor 4/10 that it's not even worth looking into it for nothing more than memes about how poorly executed it was. In that same way, I can't imagine China's plan to clone the gaming industry will work for the better. If anything it will just end up showing how poorly thought out the idea is from the idealogues that push it and will make Non-Chinese video games still the centerpiece of Chinese consumers that are into video games.

That obama fried chicken caught me off guard

For all we know she could be funded by Sweet Baby Inc.

I have doubt about China being able to truly start gaming innovation. Ideological purity spirals, legal interference and top down management is what is killing "western" gaming innovation and China is 100% about those 3 things.

Did you know that they buy the companies of the games they cannot copy?There are some special games that are one of a kind or online. For example, Warframe is a game of a Canadian company. It is even a very good game that saved the company from going bankrupt. China bought this game:I was still playing when they bought it and I still have an account there. Most of the time, when I wanted to trade in the game, when Chinese players came across it, it caused bugs and problems due to the high ping difference.Not only that, but all the Chinese players I knew in the game, even those who broadcast live on Twitch, were playing with cheat programs. We are talking about a community of players who cheated even in a PVe based game.We even started to download and play some games, thinking they were original, without realizing that they were actually copies. Almost all games of Chinese origin run on my computer with a different subprogram other than the game itself.Unknown to many people, many giant European or American game companies have actually been sold to Chinese game giants with a confidentiality agreement.For example, how do you explain that there are Chinese Year events in an online game made in Europe and published only in Europe?70% of the game industry is under China's control and this will increase gradually. They have already bought almost all of the most played Steam games. Copying is a tactic as explained in the video, but do not forget that they are buying companies.

Its not like Western AAA game studios are doing a lot of innovation either. Every new Ubisoft, EA, Bethesda, etc game plays just like the previous game, but in a different setting. In fact, new releases can be inferior than the predecessors, as shown with Skull and Bones.

Oh it's the Monopoly GO girl who's entire video could be summed up as "mobile games are predatory" I'm sure this'll be inciteful and not some surface level type research video.

"I didn't steal your meme, I discovered it." - Colombus (Probably)

This Chinese mentality of co-opting other people’s IP’s and running amok with them should give folks an idea about what they’re willing to do with AI to create a blueprint for controlling their population more efficiently.

China may steal and copy things but their version always ends up being an inferior bootleg version. Chinese: "Mom can we have video game?" China: "We have video game at home."

They can’t clone the games I play. Censors won’t allow it. Hentai for freedom, baby!

I’m a big fan of hollow knight and seeing the copy, Deviator is interesting. It feels a lot like Hollow Knight but they added the need for a parry mechanic. That alone ends up making the game play a lot different because you must parry to be able to heal. The artwork is strikingly similar to hollow knight. Not sure if it will end up being a good game or not but I’ll be happy for more games like Hollow Knight if it’s any good. if Deviator looks and feels too much like hollow knight and they don’t do enough of their own work then I think the players will feel that and not like it.

Thumbnail deserves an award by itself

Every time I blink you upload another video lol love that you constantly have content

the thing about china, as a friend explained to me when she lived there for a bit, is that a lot of shit are game-ified. by that, i mean from online deliveries, to paying fines to getting social credit, you do it through an app. there's ads everywhere and it's all basically cyberpunk. so it's pretty scary to think how china is actually looking at gaming not just as an entertainment but to basically deal with their people

As a Chinese person, I believe that under China's current legal framework, the rapid takeover of the market by copied games is a very detrimental process for the country. It's like how China's economy has soared for 30 years without considering many consequences, but its drawbacks are also very obvious and frightening. There's a Chinese saying, "欲速则不达," which means that to achieve a good outcome, one should not pursue excessive speed but should proceed patiently and slowly. This market of copied games will severely harm those who genuinely want to create their own games, causing society to lose much of its creativity and development potential. Many of China's current fundamental problems follow this logic-focusing only on immediate gains without considering the long-term effects. While human regression may not be something that can be stopped by anyone, I still do not agree with the idea of ignoring plagiarism. Just like Asmongold said, if you don't tip, the tipping culture will disappear. Similarly, if you don't consume these copied games, they will disappear. Although there's almost no way to achieve this in both cases, I will not adopt an indifferent attitude toward plagiarism.

There's a line between theft and being inspired. I have no clue where it is though.

also asmond i want you to make a video based on your games, give us a graph of your favorite games you have played and rate them.

She makes a good point about the laws being lax in China. If you read through Chinese laws, they are very similar to western laws. They have worker's rights & copyright laws on paper, but they don't have systems in place to enforce those laws.

What I hate about AI is that it’s trying to replace the fun part of game making such as making concepts and designs. The hideous part of game making such as modeling and re-topology are left for humans 😂

"Losers copy, winners steal!"😂😅

I always see " made in china " whenever i bought cooking utensils. 😂

Bruh, they said paladins ripped off overwatch. Paladins was in development much earlier, and overwatch is a rip of global agenda, the game that hi rez made before paladins. Wild

And this is why Black Myth Wukong will not be poisoned by DEI bs, I think.

I think the question of if China can produce a good game from scratch is a no brainer, but the question is if it will be successful in China given that most of their market is mobile devices and from what I can see Black Myth Wukong is a very graphically advanced game that might not operate well on a mobile device.

Innovation almost never happens in China because in order to think for yourself, you have to risk being offensive--and the CCP makes that risk too great for the people it owns. (I adopted this line of reasoning from Jordan Peterson btw. It's also intellectually difficult to actually make something new. But you might not have made this connection anyway. I tried to make SOMETHING with that connection. We all try our best, right?)

Not anywhere near enough people are aware enough of how dangerous China is to the West, and I'm not just talking about the gaming industry.

Part about chinese patriotism is super true. How many games pandering to china or being chinesee in western gaming industry got these: Guan Yu, Wukong, Diaochan etc? You dont see Lincoln or Elvis in every american game, League hosts 3-5 china aesthetics themed skin lanes a year (players in west hate it, wonder why) and Hearthstone got these china new year portraits. For some reasone if something is packed with mythology like Smite it sells in china. In case of chinese creative design going to shine i think of Afk Arena/Journey, while china-made they dont look eastern and are huge in Europe

Even the genshin devs admitted in an interview that they were inspired by breath of the wild when they made genshin, so there's without a doubt a Link between the two games.

When I was a kid I always thought "why isn't earth just a single country wouldn't that be better", now I'm really scared of smth like that happening

As a veteran Chinese 🇨🇳, I grew up playing bootleg games. Because video gaming was too pricey for us and the market was full of these copycats. And then approximately around college years I got to know steam and then started buying games. Also many steam games are very cheap. China gaming is like many industries in china, was crap at first place but then due to economic blooming and local protectionism, it grows larger and larger. Finally, the industry is so big that it uses rules and regulations learned from the west to consume and replace its original source😂. To be fair, what makes Chinese so different and also more threatening than other competitors the west used to face is that including Gaming industry, Chinese are so good at the process of learning, copying, catching up and using your rules against you. So you will see china’s rising of 3A games in recent years because the process is complete. Right now making a 3A game in china is very cheap compared with those made in Japan and USA. So I guess in the coming years more 3A games will be made solely by Chinese companies. Put ideology aside, China is just another version of America but the ruling power is the party who plays the game of free markets in a more authoritarian way😂.

As a Chinese gamer who’s been playing games for 20 years I can offer a bit more perspective on this. The reason China had extensive issues with cloning is because for innovative people to exist you need to feed a certain proportion of your population to a fairly good living standard so some of them can afford to innovate without the fear of starving to death. Western countries have reached this state for a few generations, so it is hard for people nowadays to relate to China’s situation 20 years ago where people would rather earn quick money than to be respected for their creations. The Chinese gaming industry was also greatly suppressed by the government mainly due to overwhelming pressure from parents back then, whose generation grew up with literally no games in their lives and thus viewed games as opioids for the mind (similar to parents nowadays being against TikTok and ins). This resulted in there being no soil for innovation, and shameless copiers like Tencent flooded the market with trash and copycats. By the way, Chinese gamers hate Tencent to the gut, but unfortunately Tencent keeps winning and now is buying game companies around the globe. Another reason Tencent makes so much money is because it puts it’s focus on free-to-play games with in-game purchases, and mainly appeal to those whose sense of pleasure come from showing off the expensive items they bought (like the new Ahri skin in LOL, typical Tencent move). Whenever a small studio comes up with a good prototype of a game, giant companies like Tencent would purchase the studio, interfere with game-making, make it free-to-play with in-game purchase, and milk the sht out of the game until nobody wants to play it anymore, and then move on to the next target. That’s why Chinese gamers are so excited about Black Myth Wukong, as it is an AAA game with no in-game purchase, and that Game Science has promised to not let any investors affect their game designs. If Black Myth Wukong proves to be a success on the market, similar games will follow, which will break the endless cycle of trash game devs in China. Also, Genshin impact was subjected to a huge wave of criticism in China before it even launched because the demo back then clearly showed it was a knockoff of Breath of the Wild. And no surprise, it was free-to-play with in-game purchase. Chinese gamers were ashamed of the game being launched overseas, but surprisingly it turned out to be a success and foreigners loved it. About the propaganda thing, there has always been a misconception that China wants to spread communism the way America spreads its freedom and democracy, and that’s simply not true as far as I’m concerned. What the Chinese government and Chinese people are hoping to do with games is something like what the Japanese have done with their anime, which is to get the world interested in exploring our culture. So many people in the west know Goku from Dragonball but many of them only got to know its origin Wukong the monkey king when Black Myth Wukong showed up, which is a perfect example.

Iterative design is different than completely ripping off a game. Iterative design is defined by design in stages or iterations, prototyping, testing, analyzing and refining for final product. Many game studios see "final product" from other studios and then take that idea and go into their own studio and start the cycle from the prototyping stage. China sees a final product from other studios and they get people working on ripping that off completely as a final product. No innovation, no differences, no changes, no adding their own personal take on an idea. It's just a carbon copy, in this way, they dodge months or years of prototyping, testing and refining.

China has a pretty interesting Valorant "clone" that's coming up, and it's pretty interesting from what I've seen. It's basically anime valorant meets paper mario and it looks pretty fun. So i believe china can make some pretty unique stuff, but for now they'll mostly keep copying to save time and money on developing unique IP's. Once chine does start making their own games, i'm certain their copyright/ IP laws will change along with it.

you can't clone SOUL. you can't clone atmosphere. you can't clone charm.

Trying to doesn't have intellectual property law like the US. And that might be a good thing. This first came to light with the integrated circuit industry where no one pays for the use of others designs. Within China it was seen as a honor to have your integrated circuit design used by another manufacturer, probably because of the communal sensibilities

Consoles were never actually banned in China, the ban thing is more like a limitation and how the government show they don't really support this. There were a shit ton of consoles in China, I remember owning a GBA PSP and ps3 back in the day, while my friends owned all the different systems.

Before the internet my parents met multiple foreigners from China who stated their government told them to "multiply" within North America towards a goal of global dominance. Back when chatrooms existed, and prior to the social media addiction, i met chinese citizens who also stated the same thing! Now, its being regurgitated onto another entertainment industry.

"Opium of the mind" only really applies to heavily monetized games. P2W games gets a lot of people addicted to them. It's like a virus in the games industry.

Tencent offered us funding enough for 4 games in the series when we are in beta stage on our first game. 😅 it was that aggressive.

I personally feel like The First Descendant is a clone of Destiny 2. It looks almost identical and the only key differentiating factor is that it’s not played in first person. I wonder if bungie will pursue lawsuits.

I liked the part where she said they were famous for their innovation, then I couldn’t think of anything they’ve created in the last 1000 years.

No company can make money or be successful if they are just ‘cloning’. No player would give up from an already good game that they have accumulated many experience and time and move to a new copy of that same game. The Chinese games are getting good market is because they added something new in that the player base really appreciates. They deserve to make money and that’s how you make the whole gaming industry better.

I’m just going to say this American players are about mining Elo ratings and skill ratings also racing ratings to where it’s hard to compete against. It’s pretty much where you have to buy 2 of the same game just to get wins or Achievements that requires you to play online to unlock that achievement.