China's Race for AI Supremacy 

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China's rush to get some damb power too many rolling blk outs

@@mattyghost3409 someone half illiterate like yourself probably shouldn’t be commenting on global politics.

well said

Well it’s because China is very dystopian 😂

it’s not like they are lying about the rampant AI surveillance straight out of an Orwelian nightmare

They know their audience. In China it would be the other way around! Probably use music from 战狼！

Lol noticed that as well, sounded like the music from appoloypse movie 24 days later.

How

Not in this case buddy. If either of those countries lose it's gonna be really bad for them.

and planning to attack.

in other word: confidence

Best political propaganda clip of the year

Best political propaganda clip of the year

Many Americans don’t even know him. haha

Hahahaha, playing victim is part of American culture Such as Human Rights on every corner of countries But they forget about indian tribe

winnie the xi calls, he wants to import australian coal to light up decrepit virus infested chinese cities 😂😂😂😂

@@yap5995 cry

This comment deserves much more likes.

No need, the world already knows about US atrocities they had committed around the world.

Lesser of two evils fallacy

@@stevenpreston5619 but they don’t act against it as every rich kid wants to be the next elon.

@@stevenpreston5619 yeah but they dont pay the price. Why isnt Bush in jail for genociding 1m in Iraq?

So many Chinese bots here. Really shows the power of artificial intelligence

@@enriktigasna 🤣

@@enriktigasna someone with the name "generic shitposts" talking about bots hahaha, nothing but pure hypocrisy

@@enriktigasna sour grapes ahh

@@enriktigasna butthurt are u yankee bot

@dd how would know if the US gov. operate in secrecy.

@dd practice ur english first... "at bad as".... really?

@@rcl998 if china becomes superpower , we all will be practicing Mandarin

@@nowiambecomedeath970 😂

@yankeez99 China's gdp per capita (2020) is 10,500 USD, about 1/6 of that of the US, and the Chinese gdp is about 30% real estate. China also doesn't have bases around the globe to project its military forces worldwide. Currently, it spends about 1.7% of its GDP on military budget, lower than the 2% requirement for a NATO member state. It's far from a super power.

That must be why every country near China or Russia wants a US alliance and base.

@@TenOrbital because USA buys their politicians. I am from Nepal , bordering country of China's Tibet region. USA forcely dragged Nepal into Indo pacific strategy . USA also tried to control Nepal through their corporate MCC.

Idk man it's citizens like their vpns

@ciybersal - No eastern bloc country wants Russia back. The USSR ruined their countries. North Korea is crazy, the CCP is welcome to them. Pakistan is also allies with Saudi and the USA, they play all sides. Cuba is an impoverished Cold War relic and Venezuela is a failed state.

@@TenOrbital Pakistan is Allies with US? You’re crazy lol. For one Pakistan hates India, 2nd China is strategic partners with Pakistan.

The primary problem with China gaining superamacy is the massive unethical use of AI that Chinese govt is already doing and will increase in the future.

@@exponentialcomplexity3051 uh, no stop arguing for him, he used life saving drugs as an example of why America needs to stay on top. Because he is a supremacist, I won't say racist, but he certainly have deep seated belief that an American life is worth more than a Chinese life, at least that's how he carries himself with that example.

@@obsidianstatue drugs are one of the many applications of AI. There are plenty of unethical uses that China will not shy away from doing.

@@exponentialcomplexity3051 But that's up to the Chinese and their people, it has nothing to do with you, what he stated was the effects on how the West won't get first dibs on things that China developed. You are just another type of supremacist apologist. The world is big enough for differences to coexist.

@@exponentialcomplexity3051 : ethics are not defined by the western-Greek culture ot western mentality. Back off

The U.S government doesn't want to create a market, it wants to respond to the market.

U.S governments will introduce it's own digital currency as soon as it feels there's more market acceptance by the general public.

@@matthewhuo6543 Welcome to the U.S. where our motto is; "come back when you are a little more richer."

It's strange how people talk about all the profits, they've been making through trading of bitcoin, while am here not making any profit at all. Please can Someone put me through on the right path or at least tell me what I'm doing wrong?

@@thomashooks3036 Same here, My portfolio has been going down the drain while I try trading,I just don't know what I do wrong.

One can speak freely about human rights and the other cannot. I let you guess which one is which.

@@anthonyhall7449 lol you have been propaganded well by your media.

@@nsebast bro it's not propoganda For AI are better than us in everything And logically we are the biggest threat to their existance Why won't they distroy us

@@anthonyhall7449 恰恰相反，美国的言论自由是属于少数既得利益者，而中国人民才是真正的民主自由。

This is reality. The narrative between the two sides have quite different tones.

Dude that made me laugh, unreal.

actually it's very funny, US is spying on the world and now if 5G is to be deployed they are not gonna be able to spy at least for some time which is not acceptable for the American agencies...

Hypocrisy at its best…undeniably the US is the master at this game

@Ben Edward Snowden would like a word. Governments routinely collect data on everyone. Whether they admit to sifting through it is another matter but "reasonable suspicion" is a pretty low bar.

@Ben you wish my friend

Far more Americans are arguing about Dave Chappelle's latest comedy special. They're more offended by jokes than by Biden's abysmal presidency.

I just saw that video just now XD

There's no arguing allowed in China

So we all just have the same recommendeds xd

@@Snowy123 so how do they get things done without discussion?

we're always the exception, aren't we

The USA is not only a surveillance state, but it's also the global surveillance power. The USA with Japan, Singapore, and other partners, have hacked the undersea cables and transmitted the data through satellite to the huge data storage facility in AZ for analysis.

another reason why this bloomberg piece is total bs.

BINGO!

You are objective.

In fact, it is understandable that in World War II, the United States gained a lot of money from selling arms to both sides across the ocean. Therefore, the richest people in the United States are arms dealers, and how do arms dealers make money? war! Whether Afghanistan or Israel or Ukraine, as long as there is a war, arms dealers can make a steady stream of money

@@user-gq1sm8qe8e sadly you are wrong. US and US companies went bankrupt after WWll. The world economy collapsed and none of the countries we sold weapons to could make the interest payments led alone the initial debt. Guess what, US wiped out all the debts and just forgave the world. Nobody really ever thank US for that, nobody ever thanked US for sanctioning all the rouge nations and preventing them from exporting drugs, maybe we should lift sanctions for North Korea and Iran, I know they have plenty of enemies. Lastly, NATo has not set foot into Ukraine or Russia and did not initiated this war.

Are you crazy. China is doing this to eventually take over as soon as they can meaning they will annihilate us when they get the chance and can win.

@@user-gq1sm8qe8e With the war in Ukraine, Europe is forced to buy oil and gas from the US at much higher price. Europe still thinks that it is wining! 🤣🤣🤣

@@sunshine7453 Europe is buying from Africa, pls stop listening to propaganda machine from the China or Russia

It's funny because the USA actually collects more data on it's own citizens than other countries

Revealing a truth doesn't fit the collective US narrative on China.

another false equivalence, there is a huge difference in how the economy in the US is run and how it's run in china. Case and point tik tok, in china no western/foreign app is allowed to operate, meanwhile when trump wanted to ban tik tok it was struck down by the supreme court and he had to provide proof for the risk it posed. yeah not the same genius.

But US can do sanction or force other country to stop supply important material to China ? And US can just simply ban any company to assume that they win the competition.

@@bayermcquenzie318 interesting how "supplying to a military that we might be fighting in the next 10 years" is the same as "winning the competition" or better yet "country carrying out genocide" = "winning competition". Every action has a reaction, the difference is that a small action like asking for an independent inquiry into the orgins of the pandemic of our lifetime to the US doesn't result in a full blown trade like in china, rather actions that actually cause harm like creating fake islands and then putting missiles on them and then threatening a democratic island with destruction does result in a harsh response. False equivalence

@@fahimrind9714 the only false equivalence happening here is you thinking your comment has any relevance to what I said in my original post. The US has refused to provide the blue print for coronavirus vaccine to any country who cannot pay for it. So, what is the difference between the US doing it or China doing it? There isn’t a difference.

@@fahimrind9714 not false equivalency, this is actually what happened. Although the US doesn’t quote on quote bans the medicine for export. But the cost wall for new drugs are so high, nobody can afford to pay for it. Thus a barrier is still established. Chinese doesn’t have access to the newest drug US developed that’s a fact whether you like it or not. So did China complain like that guy did? Not really, they understood they need to catch up and not be held at gun point for concessions.

not reaaaaly, the losing side will eventually play it dirty in reality, people in power will not accept their fail unless someone put it i their face...

@@user-ko3or3pp8e It is easy for US to win the battle. Just kidnap the executives’ relatives.

Definitely not through war simulation but actual war.

All it would take is for one of the countries to detonate an EMP or a few to knock out/destroy the other country's unshielded computer networks & electrical infrastructure to win while the losing country is in the dark ages for a time.

don't think so. The AI these countries want are only for making weapons faster / cheaper / deadier and not for more intelligent

Honestly, equating the USA with China is lazy thinking at best...

@@u1rtc7t5f64t157856v8 agreed!

@ADHD Insane Asylum what?

@@Capsensor The caparison is the Chinese are on the verge of using AI to make the newest drugs. While you americans are skipping using an old drug like Insulin because of its cost you using "Tienanmen"? as an argument is just as weak as you americans have troops in 20 countries in just Africa alone causing the demise of people because you dont want them to be in control in that country their people went from being paid 1 dollar a day to the biggest foreign buyers of your American Real Estate btw you should type into a search....on who already controls the supply of essential ingredients that goes into the world's pharmaceutical drugs... like Insulin... and learn something

@@Capsensor Except the "Tiananmen" incident happened in 1989. At least get your spelling and facts right.

White privileged…..they don’t seem to be aware of that. Or they reckoned it’s a natural order of things:)

Exactly what I was thinking, all those For Profit Pharmas

i stumbled on this too, no idea what he meant apart from "being the first" to do it or "controlling it"

I would say no. If anything its bad for us Americans cuz we have to pay a premium on medicine and drugs, because Big Pharma wants to reap back their research and development (R&D). But the rest of the world is able to enjoy lower drug prices. A quick search will show you various articles on such a topic.

@@Bruv009 lol

It depends on the difficulty of the problems that AI is trying to solve, efficiency and accuracy of the algorithms (software) and the level of computational advancement (hardware).

China is transparent in using AI America is using AI secretly on its citizens

The best inference and improv models that can execute the most, with the least amount of data or commands. I guess. I don’t have much implicit “”understanding”” on A.I.

The answer in that is multifaceted but the overall influence being the broad definition. That being a combination of all areas relevant to this end be it manufacturing and engineering or solving socioeconomic problems. At the end of the day though I personally believe the answer lies in the margin in which the AI affects world leadership margins.

@@shakazulu5819 Doesnt make it less wrong. Both are wrong.

Also, China is NOT in the service of billion dollar companies. Unlike the US. The US governance system is literally controlled by these companies. Profit over everything else...

The problem is that china doesn’t help those countries for their benefit. Sure, those countries benefited from sinovax, ppe, the Silk Road, and other Chinese initiatives, but they are playing the long game. Those small countries are now in debt to china and china will not forgive that debt. American advances in the medical industry are taken for granted now, but there importance cannot be understated, especially because they come with few strings attached. The price of medicine and health care in the us should definitely be debated, but giving leverage to China will be much worse.

Huawei owned most of 5g patents.

@@stykefilmstudios4230 Once again, NSA script..... China forgives debt much more than the IMF and World bank has, which are all controlled by the US and her allies.

"available to Chinese people and not in the West"...the fact that third world countries ain't even mentioned is frightening... in their right mind... only West is considered here...the rest of us are transparent...

More like Goebbels writing about how terrible the soviets were to the Ukrainians

im gonna steal your quote thz very much

Yeah I agree that privacy in the U.S is non existant just like in China, but have you tried being blacklisted from life for insulting Winnih the Xi on social media ? Or have you tried becoming a billionaire and being erased by the government because they don't like you ? (Alibaba CEO Jack Ma). Yeah no man, Americans take so much rights for granted, c'mon man if you don't like it here move to China.

​@@iliaserrami86 I dont even think XI has a social media account. he's not Trump. People talk smack about XI all the time in chinese social media, its when you threaten to do thing to him thats when you go on a list. Just like when you threaten to do things to the POTUS.

@@hughmungus2760 Yeah well try saying that to Zhang zhan, I've never seen a prisoner in the U.S because of journalism. Most of the time it is because of leaking data they clearly agreed not to leak. Also read how China defines it's social credit system. If you praise China on social media you get additional points, insulting the CCP or any related figure will remove points. Buying alcohol for example will remove points. When you don't have enough points you can't have a job, can't rent an apartment and can't get a public transportation ticket, just to let ya know, cars are not the main transport in China. Sorry but idiots like you like to pick on Trump, please shut up, Trump is just a puppet like all the other presidents, literally nothing has changed, not the growth rates, Obama was about to withdraw troops too, stop thinking the president actually does any decisions, the real rulers are more educated than you think, do you think any idiot can keep a country up and running as the world superpower for decades ? If you turned of the news and just lived normally you'd notice no change whatsoever. Anyhow people like you take your freedom for granted, if the U.S was 1.5 billion people them maybe we'd count social credit and all but no thanks, we are ok with our 330 million.

Why would the military not be desperate for the weapon that will win the next war?

Pentagon tech guy quit because the us would rather invest in F-35s than cyber .

@@someguy7723 Which war is that?

€636.

irony is how you know the person knows what they're talking about.

Well he is not wrong

@@davout5775 China is not wrong about corporate takeover from companies like Facebook or Google either.

@@makemap What do you mean by takeover? They took over what?

@@davout5775 Mean first they try control Chinese products, then they control the Chinese Gov before using it to invade other countries just like US troops acting as Mercs for corporations. The Chinese Gov blocked them. Go google Monsanto trying to takeover Indian farmlands. You are behind on the evil policy of the West right now.

Meh.. AI - another buzzword. These journos with BS degrees in the humanities don’t truly understand the techs involved and get suckered in by the hype. Every 10 years some tech is considered “world changing”. 😂 electricity was truly a quantum leap. The only thing that’s come close has been ICT, of which AI is just a mere component.

@@khaldrago911 I don’t know depends on the type of AI you are talking about. An Ai that has the same intelligence or greater then people would be another revolution. They could then replace all jobs as long as the hardware can keep up and I believe the software is the issue for something like that not the hardware.

@@caelcdye9575 yes and we’re no where near this level of AI. Hype , hype , hype.

@@caelcdye9575 yes robots that replacing human labor is the thing that we've been seeing more often this day and it can change the world that we used to live in for better or worse thanks to ai, maybe the change is not in drastically as we've seen on the revolutionary of electric inventions but we can clearly see that we are on the direction of an AI age

@@josephs1752 nope dude .in autonomis technology it's Baidu In AI is Chinese AI And in 5G is Hauwei and ZTE lol

You don't want a communist country to be number 1 in AI. Trust me. I was born in the USSR.

Different values? Killing 55 million of ur own people during cultural revolution is not just a "different value" , suppressing freedom of religion , practice is not just a "different value". Grow up

@@MrSchweppes exactly , these wannbes , "wokes" in west are the real threat to humanity , not china or ccp

@@MrSchweppes Today China isn't real communist country, it not equal to USSR

@@MrSchweppes China is a socialist country formulated in accordance with China's national conditions. Not every country is fit for capitalism. For example, capitalism and communism in African countries have not developed significantly

Because China would be a better world leader

"American values" yeah, that's where i had to laugh as well.

@@d34d10ck because you prefer concentration camps or what?

American values means profit before human beings. If the US discovers the cure for cancer only very rich people will afford it, if it is China then the poor countries can have access too

@@1000xtati China took all the PPE for themselves during the pandemic and then re-sold to the world for profit 🤨.. while USA is the most charitable County on earth by the numbers

They just bumped up the war spending.

@J Kairos then please recall the 800+ military bases around the globe, China has only one military base on foreign soil

China gov, is killing tis own people and milking no comunist members.

It's a government official saying such thing, not weird tho. He's talking about the threat in terms of national strategy. If China is leading the AI, USA's NO.1 place in the world would be threatened by CHINA! He's just posting another China threat comment.

We will all be friends. Right. You do know China is telling its citizen they are going to beat us in a war right? They tell their citizen to boycott the US. Hate to pop the bubble, but they are not your friend. You don't have freedom in China. We have been down this road before when the cold war was going strong in the 80's. You got these progressive saying "better red than dead" They were going to roll over for the Soviets. Any competition to the US, and they roll over. In their heart, they hate America and wants to burn it down soon as they get a chance.

US wants absolute leads in every field so that it can milk the world dry! That is the priority of US capitalism which is milking the world for many decades now...wake up, people!!!!

Yes

Haha every single time

Also impressive they could interview Robert Li *Robin

This doc shows the greed of Eric schimdt. US military and US big pharma should not be allowed to rule.

Propah

glad to see China and USA compete for AI, human could benefit from tech investments

@@hyy3657 not at all would just lead to technocrats and the decline of society

Haha funny! The United States has been spying on its citizens electronically for two whole decades!

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And 25% engineers in US are Chinese. Keep up the identity politics and see how many of those people will start feeling it’s unsafe to stay in the US and leave.

@@royhuang9715 I feel the trend is definitely unfavorable to US.

@@royhuang9715 That's not true at all!

@@royhuang9715 Those who stay in the US also pay taxes and spend their money there. The US is silly to limit the amount of expert visas they give out every year. Even American companies who want to compete have no choice but to set up factories and R&D centers in China/ Asia where their employees will pay local taxes and boost local economies. Politics is a silly that way.

US has to import most of its engineers as they are not producing enough home grown talent.

@ That’s not entirely accurate. If their role is that mundane, any company can substitute it.

Tsmc is coming to the us im happy 😊 who cares about china

@@kristopherbell7158 yup, the US is also poaching TSMC engineers and pushing them to build a factory in the US

@@kristopherbell7158 1.4 billion Chinese and other friendly people care. Apparently you don't. I do remember when US banned China from working with ISS, China builds its own space station. when US cut the signal of GPS,China develops its own GPS called Beidou. Now US is banning chip companies from selling some core technologies, let's see what's going to happen.

@@kristopherbell7158 Trade wars take us nowhere. It shows how immature and insecure the US is.

Ask all the countries not getting covid-19 vaccines because the rich western countries are hoarding them.

@@justwatchingstuffhere It was projection but I think more to engender fear rather than divert attention.

Exactly

@@Paulkjoss Algorithms made by Tech Oligarchs running on their ideology, is that really better than politicians, maybe for you!

@@Paulkjoss So artificial intelligence can never replace politicians.

LOL you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what AI does and how it works

I'm sorry [Joe T], I'm afraid I can't do that.

But China can't beat chatgpt

Look at american scientists so many Chinese born and first generation Chinese Americans

Actually TSMC is just a factory which uses western technology from ASML.

They (the masters who make the rules) want to devolve human beings into human doings.

Reminds me of an game called Universal Paperclips. You eventually turn everything into paperclips including yourself lol

Don't see how it would ever negate the need for human trials. Even an drug developed with AI can have unforeseen side effects that have to be tested before being rolled out on a mass scale.

Mr Ding most probably, he is from Sitiawan, Perak, Malaysia 🇲🇾

Yeah that is crazy. Imagine an AI that has everybody’s genetics, develops a medicine and trials it on the whole global population in one day through a virtual computation, and then they sell that medicine. Its crazy.

You are right, to be a successful person in life require him or her of hard work and time

I totally agree with you it has been an eye_opening experience for alot of people.

investment is the key to achieving success with the current pandemic slowing down so many business.

@@sharonmichelmy4302 Talking about been successful. I know I am blessed if not I wouldn't meet someone is a spectacular as Mrs Madeleine latitia..

she has helped me recovered a lot from the time I have been trading with her

Unfortunately, there are some Americans who'd prefer it if China were a big North Korea, like it was in the 50s, instead of turning into a big South Korea like it's doing now

Facts

That was a great song. And a great game

Where the american researchers

Saying that before you even watched the whole thing...

大惊小怪！

That's why I need immortality

Start learning Mandarin now

@@nothing9220 would you really like to live forever. See everyone you love die before you. Then after they died you would never again be able to build a personal relationship with anyone because you would know that the pain of losing them would be too unbearable. You would feel like the loneliness person in earth. Not Being able to love or be friends with anyone for fear of losing them. I think such a thing would be unbearable.

It's called projecting in psychology... i.e. US jingoistic nature projects China as always wanting war which in fact the opposite is true.

You are absolutely right. The US has incited, participated, and started many wars and military conflicts in the name of "defending their country/freedom". Talking about effective propaganda... While the US has been pouring trillions of dollars into waging war here and there, China has been busy building their economic and geopolitical influence. Now China is the largest economy in the world, and they are about to become the dominant military force aswell. Sorry to say, but no matter how much you like to think "America is the greatest country in the world", all unbiased data suggest the very opposite on so many areas measuring quality of life.

@@keijokelvoton8936 Gotta admit that there's still a huge gap between China and USA in terms of economy, tech, and military, despite of its massive growth in the past decades. However, it's hopeful that China will have greater influence and development in the following decades. That's a huge challenge to the DEMOCRATIC system which the west adopts and believes in deeply. They will only put more suppression and sanctions on China because they don't want China to prove that the communism can also succeed.

Absolutely... This tech is nothing we have seen before... It will rip the world apart if left to a capitalist model. AI needs to be open sourced so no county gets left behind

We're happy you enjoy it!

@@business please tell me how are you able to add your own emojis?

@Jinga Randy how is that related?

​@Jinga Randy this is a joke, right? i honestly can't tell cause it's written seriously, but like....

@Jinga Randy Are you Indians really so emotionally fragile that you have to say how great you are on every comment thread you come across?

They poach so many talents in India when these talents would be so useful in India itself to lift hundreds millions out of poverty. I doubt whether US will help India economically. US wont like to create a second China to compete with in 20 years.

Capitalism is destroying social safety nets and the planet & you want cooperation?

That is scary

@@dawidwtorek For white supremacists.

No China is a Dictatorship and enginers are going to lave that prisson.

That is awesome

I think it is just a theater to get more money for the military

Elon Musk pushes pre-existing technology such as electric cars and rockets to space. He didn't invent either. Share prices for Tesla and SpaceX is based purely on speculation. Both companies have yet to produce a profit. Why Elon dismisses AI is it's beyond his ability. Musk claims he can have 1M people on Mars by 2050. That is a pipe dream. We may have 100,000 people living on Mars in 150 years, not in 29 years.

Look Xi, I can see you're really upset about this. I honestly think you ought to sit down calmly, take a stress pill, and think things over

“Bu Yao.”

make all the jokes you want, the last laugh is on you

Incompetence means incarceration when you fail Xi the Supreme Leader.

Look the reality what is happening to China and to America,make your clear assessment,feeling white supremacy doesn't and won't work.

@Alexander Excellent point. But self proclaimed patriotic Americans are too busy demonizing China to appreciate the need for constant effort to maintain supremacy. These Gordon chang idiots don't even realize their hypocrisy, i.e., if China is so autocratic and bad and to collapse soon, why worry?

Youtuve is the best one

very well said

The ussr at one point was way ahead in the space race but the US caught up and overtook them . So don’t count the US out yet . When the US has competition they come together . Just look at how the China bill passed congress with wide bipartisan support . When push comes to shove I have no doubt the US will pull out all the stops .

@@olnbgy4444 that's why US need to create "imaginary enemy" for political gain ... But anyway China never really interfere or care about US development. China only focus to improve themselves and become better.

@@olnbgy4444 but the diference is USSR was a totally comunist country while China is a capitalist country in economy China is already ahead and are expanding the gap

@@user-zf2se1he5h No China is at least 10 years behind!

China cannot be winning the AI race when the US is becoming more and more technologically ahead of everybody else

Yeah really pathetic there is so much potential and everything is wasted

@@blokin5039 Europe will always have US protection and you have Paris as a tourist destination so your fine.

EU don't have any internet companies like google, Amazon, facebook, nor Alibaba, Tencent, of course it will not catch up in the AI race.

@@blokin5039 Yep, I agree, EU just gave up to be a competitor in the US VS China game, and choose to be a cheer leader. How pathetic. However, I think people can understand EU's tough situation, after all, there are still many US military bases in EU.

and since the most investments come from private investors in the eu, and most of the money is in the us, theres an investment gap in the eu

never gonna happen

'The need for global governance and decentralization' seems to be a contradiction in terms. I believe you mean global cooperation on some truly common fundamentals. Egs. Mutually assured destruction, ocean pollution, etc. Please consider: Global governance involves decision making from a centralized source (then imposed on the globe). Like for eg. relying only on the WHO for medical recommendation, and not having sovereign medical research bodies to test and validate themselves. The product of centralized decisions are damningly double-edged; both greater coordination, but also catastrophic propagation of mistakes/ignorance whenever it comes out of a central decision making body alone, and their consequences on everyone, regardless of whether they have valid disagreements with the decisions. Federated systems on the other hand, referring to many sets of decision making entities at different local levels that then coexist and cooperate with eachother (de-centralized), allow for the evolution of better policies at the 'federal' level out of a diverse pool of decentralized systems... Kinda like 'not putting all the eggs in one basket' rather than governance initiated at a singular bias / more central 'federal' or 'global' source. ;)

Like Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Dubai?

I am sure all the 95% dead Native Americans would love to have your moral support when they diagreed with 'the Government'

Here comes whataboutery brigade

You mean the American government

Who do you think is in first place?