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They will not use the conventional Lithium battery in critical weapons such as Type 041 They will use Lithium-Titanium-oxide (LTO) battery instead (google it up if you haven't heard of it)
a new Chinese submarine where everything is secret, here comes this video telling details of the submarine lol what was the source of this video please
these would be a nasty surprise for the US silent service, because they can go places the larger nuke attack subs can't and remain undetectable. Not to mention China can build these at far greater numbers and quantity.
Even if they have built a submarine capable of matching the current US/British fleet it does not and will not for some time developed thier logistics, strategies, tactical deployments and experience that the NATO units have. I'm not saying the Chinese do not have the potential to improve in these areas, but they take time to develop and no amount of money thrown at the problem will speed that up.
@@CulturedThugPoster FACT: China has mapped all the seafloor, all around the world Therefore, tactical deployment is no longer an issue Strategy wise ---- The Chinese have a lot more strategies inside their treasure trove than you couldn't begin to imagine Experience wise ---- Granted, the Chinese are behind in underwater warfare experiences, but, it won't take them long to learn
If China can make this, an unmanned nuclear attack submarine is also achievable. It could remain submerged forever in theory because the only limit 041 has is its food supply for crews, which does exist for a similar but unmanned design. This is really a genius design. Thanks for making such a great video too
@@RichardsMiscCorner yes, could stay submerged forever around enemy's Navy route or around their ports. 1500ton this type of SSKN submarines could carry many heavy torpedos and start attack when the time comes...
Then, AI would be another issue. Actually, I don't think human being can train this kind of AI to fulfill sophisticated tasks without enough historic data base.
with batteries, the sub should be able to reach very high speed for a short duration. Lithium batteries are game changer for subs (the French have proposed a Li version of the Scorpene)
Now that China is undisputed World Leader in lithium (and other) rechargeable battery technology, I wonder if Russia might be using, or at least seriously considering, such systems to upgrade their sub energy storage systems? A new customer for CATL perhaps? 😀
Nuclear powered too! That will be a very useful weapon system, and demonstrates China's very innovative thinking. It will also be cheaper than a "full-sized" nuclear sub too (so possibly an opportunity for a significant fleet number)? Small also means small outline, and presumably smaller crew, so economical on crews too. Might this also be of benefit in providing a training platform for nuclear sub crews too?
So many uneducated people commenting. Praising 100 year old technology as a ground breaking tech breakthrough. An RTG will always be an RTG. Very inefficient. Oh yes --- very innovative thinking hahahaha
To the Chinese, small is beautiful. They are producing large numbers of 'small' fast, very energy efficient, easy to service & inexpensive to maintain, and versatile to outsmart & destroy enemies' subs or anti-subs warships .
Chinese prefer to operate many smaller subs recently because their scientist has found a new way to detect submarine in any waters just by observing the movement of water at the top. They can even check back for days and map the precise submarine movement using satellites. They have proven and submitted a paper on that. It will be just a matter of time before US is able to do it consistently too. Hence, to counter this possible detection in the future, China invested in smaller submarine technology. They will still want to design big submarines so I suspect they are finding ways to reduce swells gliding under water.
So many uneducated people commenting. Praising 100 year old technology as a ground breaking tech breakthrough. An RTG will always be an RTG. Very inefficient.
Amerikan Submarines are totally useless for Australia, the Sea around Australia is just not deep enought. Now such a small submarines like this one here might be different if Australia really wants to long range of a nuklear powered submarine.
@@tigersilberhannes9153 also Australia literally has no nuclear industry. It would require the creation of an entire supply chain to maintain those subs. Unless the plan was for australian crews to permanently station in the US.
Molten salt nuclear reactor? Det Norske Veritas recently approved the design of a 24k container vessel powered by such a reactor to sail between Atlantic and Pacific through the Arctic Ocean all through the year. These reactors work at much higher temperature, are therefore more efficient and have to get rid of much less waste heat. The reactor for this boat will be much smaller and might be based on a test reactor from the development of the reactor for the merchant ship.
@@RectalRooter us naval command stated it in 2021. Telling the transportation group not to expect 100 percent protection from the combat group. That was why trump planned to add extra 500 platforms to the navy buy Biden administration failed to accomplish it
It makes sense for torpedo subs to be as quiet and small as possible to hide and maneuver in tighter spaces. The bigger subs can be VLS missile batteries.
The Type 041 could still have some limited standoff strike capability if it was armed with torpedo tube launched anti-ship missiles, but w/o VLS, it certainly wouldn't be able to provide the volume of fire that a full SSN with VLS would. I wonder whether an unmanned version of this sub is possible. If so, it could eliminate the endurance bottleneck of food/water supplies, enabling it to stay out at sea practically indefinitely. The space that's freed up from the manned crew could be used for additional sensors, weapons, &/or batteries.
I have similar thoughts. It's difficult to imagine how a small vehicle with battery-driven propulsion could discreetly dissipate power in order to stop, if the energy source was continuous and frequent power cycling was impossible. It led me to the hypothesis that such a submersible will not make frequent port calls for resupply and servicing, and may be out at sea for several years at a time. Obstacles to this include geographic navigation, intelligent management of onboard systems, frequency and timing of communications, and predictive maintenance.
So many uneducated people commenting. Praising 100 year old technology as a ground breaking tech breakthrough. An RTG will always be an RTG. Very inefficient.
They will be fantastic little boats for coastal defense, much more useful than a standard diesel electric. They will also be much cheaper than a full size nuclear boat and will be better in shallow water.
With current advances in AI technologies, it's no longer essential to produce large manned nuclear subs. I'd suggested 10+ years ago that it would be far more effective & economical to use small unmanned nuclear attack submarines each carrying just a few specialized torpedoes, accompanied by dedicated command-control-computing-surveillance boats (also nuclear powered) working in small tactical groups in conjunction with larger manned attack subs & carrier battle groups. It's far easier, cheaper & faster to design, produce, repair, & replace small, quiet unmanned nuclear attack subs. With its current ship building capabilities, China can easily produce 20-30 such unmanned mini nuclear attack subs & auxiliary boats every year.
Something im interested to see is how/what the Chinese plan to use for conventional attack on the US mainland. The US's primary goal in a conflict with China is the damage and destroy its industry (civilian), Taiwan is completely irrelevant. US believes it can do this with no threat to its own industry. China is in need of conventional attack capabilities on the US mainland.
i do not think US can do it anymore , because china has far more gears withine zone of 5000 km around china, both air and sea , also china will go to Alaska first ,via flying over russia and transport from russia, then enter alska, while US has no base to send large land force to china, through japan is a sea route, not possible , because china has more air force and navy ship, and more of everything,
@@xinyiquan666 How is China gonna land on Alaska if the US has squadrons of f-35s? Do you think they will just do nothing? And how will China also cross the sea? Did you for get that Canada is also and ally of the US? This isn't fallout.
So many uneducated people commenting. Praising 100 year old technology as a ground breaking tech breakthrough. An RTG will always be an RTG. Very inefficient.
interesting. I wonder if they could also include a Thermoelectric generation device to more fully utilize the heat from the reactor, and also for the situations where even running the stirling engine could be too noisy.
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I think the best property of this sub is that it is small and slow and powerless. This is more for minding there business around China and let alone the world. It seems like a slow, cheap but effective patrol sub. And I would call it defense/patrol instead of attack submarine. This does not cause any trouble for the world for sure. I would rather see 10 Type 041's then one Type 095.
Bro please don't use these AI generated photos. This is what those low quality AI voiceover spam channels use and it kills the credibility of this channel. I hope you will seriously take my comment into consideration.
I don't think anyone used the Stirling Engine for any large application like this. China is producing a unique type of submarine which is quieter than a conventional nuclear submarine.
So many uneducated people commenting. Praising 100 year old technology as a ground breaking tech breakthrough. An RTG will always be an RTG. Very inefficient.
Very Brief And Summarize Ideas: I think they could fire the YJ18 anti ship cruise missiles, maybe developing a smaller size version for this class of submarines, frigates and missiles boats and even air and ground launched versions... on the other hand I think one of the the main threats for PLA naval forces operating between the Chinese mainland (with the exception of the shallow waters of taiwan straight) and the first chain of islands is the attack submarines either nuclear powered attacks submarines of what is temporarily called the united states of america or the conventionally powered submarines of its allies in the Indo-Pacific region all have very robust and advanced submarines industry which will be played as force multipliers assets for navy of what is temporarily called the united states, forcing the our Chinese friends naval forces to direct a considerable resources (combat assets and combat support assets) to chasing and containing those mostly electro- AIP submarines, which those types of submarines powered by new type of hybrid propulsion systems could be more useful at strategical and operational and tactical levels, with its small size easy to mass produced, and will not required a large number of crew thus it can be deployed in larger number to execute various types of offensive and defensive missions... I think this submarine can benefit from several factors to operate over long distances outside its expected areas of activity, Some of these factors are: 1- Its small size for reducing the overall footprints and facilities the maneuverability... 2- reducing the acoustic signature as a result of adopting a very quiet propulsion system... 3- the independent propulsion system that gives it the ability to remain underwater continuously... regarding the two expected theaters of operations, the Atlantic Ocean, which is the largest ocean in the world, and the Indian Ocean, these submarines can employ elements of their operational advantages in terms of its small size and quieter propulsion system to work thousands of km away from their bases ( not only limiting or restricting their operational utilization by the coastal zone and green waters although securing those are the priority at least in the early stages of any expected war with what is temporarily called the united states of america and it's allies, considering the ww2 submarines with similar or even much less displacements operated few thousand kms from its bases), infiltrating the hydrophone systems networks installed across all oceans beds and seabeds, those submarines can employ the complex topography of the seabed to carry out a sets of different operations within the strategy of hybrid & asymmetrical warfare which includes but not limited to setting up ambushes for enemy naval assets either submarines, surface combat and logistics vessels, planting mines and underwater explosive devices, launching naval drones, and infiltrating opponents seaports, launching cruise missiles (especially YJ18) against enemy ground target's for example assets deployed across the shores seaports and naval shipyards, naval bases, oil terminals, and oil storage sites....etc, theoretically a swarms from those submarines could sneak to 500 km from its intended target's and launch a salvos of those hypersonic missiles, although its slower process compared with cruise missiles fired from vertical launched systems, but worth noting here two things: 1- each submarine is equipped with four or six launching tubes and it could launch torpedoes from both sides... 2- I think those tube launched cruise missiles could enhance the stealthiness of the launching submarine because the missile should be fired horizontally allowing the missile to travel vertically underwater for distance before reaching the surface and flying in the sky, I think those distance could help concealing the launching submarine, compared with vertically launched cruise missiles...
AIP boats are also very slow in AIP mode because of the battery / Stirling engine output. 041 with a combined battery + high output Stirling engines will be faster than an AIP sub in stealth mode
Well, steam power is a mature technology, giant Stirling engines are something we don't see every day, have never seen. Are they turbines? This would make sense. You can easily say what that might be like, (pressurized, using turbines. continuous flow, so heat-exchangers instead of regenerators... filled with Helium maybe) but I don't know of any examples, and nothing on the scale of megawatts. In CHINA there might be a College or a design bureau or both devoted entirely to this, they have a lot of Engineers!
Sterling engines are much less efficient than steam engines, i.e. less power from nuclear fission is converted to mechanical power to drive the propeller. I suspect this is the main reason sterling engines are not widely used in SSNs. In the case of 041, since it is driven by the battery and the sterling engines are only used for charging, the lack of efficiency doesn't impact speed. A very smart design.
SSK(N)s were first proposed during the Cold War as ~3000t, primarily diesel-electric boats with small 1.3MW nuclear powerplant recharging the batteries, allowing the option of avoiding surfacing at the cost of limiting themselves to crawling speed. However, immature technology and high regulatory/compliance costs meant they were still very expensive; and totally unsuitable for the USN's objective of long range expeditionary warfare. A more appropriate moniker for Type 041 style submarines would be SSE(n), where E is for electric, or SSN(b), for battery. The prime mover on these boatsis battery-electric, and it's peak battery performance exceeds the nuclear output to offer a sprint option. As an incidental bonus, your chinese-speaking audience can exclaim NB for these submarines. I wouldn't straight up give the sensor edge to the conventional SSN; the nuclear-electric boat may have less hull for it's sonar suite, but the lower self-noise also offers advantages for passive detection, unless the SSN is spooling out it's towed array, at which point their speed advantage disappears. Similarly, the food-endurance really depends on the crew size. If the PLAN has taken full advantage of low-maintenance SMR (small modular reactor) technology, it's conceivable the crew to hull ratio could approach or even exceed the Soryu class, at which point you could conceivably out-endurance conventional SSNs.
this is technology breakthrough like nuclear weapon miniaturization. Traditional nuclear technology have to take huge capacity for its reactors/turbine engines, thus many constraints applied like space, can't got shallow water etc. but this approach could make it much smaller while keep all the advantages from SSN
So many uneducated people commenting. Praising 100 year old technology as a ground breaking tech breakthrough. An RTG will always be an RTG. Very inefficient.
Hello everyone, I have question, for the submarine to be ultra quiet it has to run on electric power, and to recharge the batteries you have to turn on the nuclear reactor, but what do you do when your batteries are full and you have to run on electric power again, since it is not easy to turn off the nuclear reactor when it is on. Something is off here.
21:45 I wonder, does the small size make it easier to give a sub a greater depth capability? I.e. can the 045 type sub work at a greater depth than larger subs? As a non-expert in this field it seems to me that it should.
So many uneducated people commenting. Praising 100 year old technology as a ground breaking tech breakthrough. An RTG will always be an RTG. Very inefficient.
Those AI generated photos of the 041 dont make sense. Even though they're fictional images the fact they show tons of grooves, dips, and other non-smooth surfaces makes no sense as all of that will create drag underwater, especially on the bow, and drag means sound which makes no sense for a sub design.
Russians - once - considered and I think even tried similar setup for Kilo class (proj. 877 ) submarine. Also: still this could power water desalination using waste heat and maybe oxygen generation, yielding greater endurance (at expense of mobility). Even argumenting tanks is huge thing. And if reactor is cooled by natural circulation.... remember SNAP-10 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SNAP-10A - look at size, offering 30 kW of thermal power ( so 10 kWe is comfortably reached ) and in submarine and in that power level, whole hull can act as radiator without dedicated cooling assembly (of course, heat exchnager to keep radioactive coolant contained is needed ). And if China would use more exotic cooling (bismut? lead?), they probably could go into 100kWt in similarily sized package.
I just recently discovered the channel. I find the content great. But because it focuses on China, it seems to attract a lot of dictatorship loving people, based on the comment section. Makes me wonder if ENI is ok with that or perceives it as such.
Eh.. The nuclear power plant does not shutdown. So it will continue to generate electricity needed for propulsion. As such, for normal cruising the sterling engine will power the engines directly and at the same time charge the batteries. The only time the quiet sterling engines are turned off should be during total silence period. There is no reason to turn off the nuclear power plant and run solely on battery at all time.
Like other commenters I kept wondering why it would have a crew. Humans need lots of space, lots of food and water and waste disposal and oxygen. Of course we're wonderful creatures but do we really add enough to be worth carrying around?
In a certain moment during the video is said that this kind of SSKN can't be used primaryly against an US navy's task force. How many time will be necessary to PLAN develop a hypersonic cruise missile with a range of, for example, 200km, that can be launched from a torpedo tube of 533mm? If these new subs will be as stealth as said, they could approximate to the task force, launch a salvo of four missiles and run away. A wolf pack of them will be a tremendous peril...
Well there is research about a sub-launched YJ-21, but it seems to be limited to VLS and we don't know how far has it advanced beyond a conceptual stage.
Can you use real pictures of whatever you talk about? For me these AI generated pictures feel very low quality but it is nice that you clarify it ate the start
So many uneducated people commenting. Praising 100 year old technology as a ground breaking tech breakthrough. An RTG will always be an RTG. Very inefficient.
@@RectalRooter RTGs are inefficient because they run in a vacuum and have to rely on boltzmann radiators to provide a thermal gradiant. In an ocean you'd have a much easier time radiating heat out so you could have a much bigger reactor with no moving parts
@@hughmungus2760 Kinda sorta a 1/4 of truth in that comment. RTG's do run on temperature differences. What mechanism is used to generate the heat in RTG's ?
@@hughmungus2760 Yeap. You are correct. Remember that all the math and design work has been studied and completed for many years. Look up how much heat is produced from decay by itself. You will find it stated in Watts.
I am curious as to its top sustainable speed. I suspect it is limited by the Stirling engine, which is not know to be very powerful. Extremely efficient and quiet, but bulky and not powerful. Also, what is the weapons loadout. If it has limited food stores and weapons loads, I am not sure it can patrol the Malacca Straits or the 2nd Island Chain. I can raid out that far, but I am not sure it can patrol that far out. Performance-wise, it is definitely a step above a diesel-electric submarine. Whether it is cost effective is another matter. I wonder if this is just a technical test bed and the actual design will be larger.
The tactical speed should be limited more by the electric motor, as the Stirling is intended to recharge batteries (unlike in a typical AIP setup). Transit speed should be faster than diesel-electric boats though, given the ability to keep recharging submerged. Weapons loadout, as I said, is probably limited to torpedo tubes and associated cruise missiles (but we don't know). Given a relatively small weapons loadout, presumably it can carry enough food to patrol up to 2IC, if not as long as SSNs.
@@EurasiaNaval Yes, sprint speed can be high. I was thinking of sustained speed underwater. At that point, it is dependent on how fast the stirling engine and convert the heat generated by the nuclear plant to electricity. That would be proportional to the size of teh stirling engine, which has a low energy conversion density. And yes, I am confident this system is better than diesel-electric in pretty much all areas of performance. Performance-wise, it is somewhere between a diesel-electric and a traditional nuclear sub. I think this system would work better for a ballistic missile sub.
But too slow to be a hunter-killer? A hunter of CIVILIAN ships? Nuclear weapons?? (stealth is important with these). Also: future bases in the INDIAN & Pacific oceans in the PLA plans...
1000 submarine.... amazing actually, from my view, sskn will replace the most of conventional submarine actually, but will not be something like wolf pack of WWII, i will estimate the number will be at most 80 the concept of sskn is a development of conventional submarine, not a replacement of nuclear submarine. nuclear submarine can run at top speed for days, and play a key role in attack mission, but sskn mostly will not reach 15 knots with out diesel engine, and mostly stay in key area and play role of defense the reason why American Navy do not develop any kind of ssk is that American navy do not expect meeting a long march fleet for attacking over ocean, there is no actually defense mission of American navy so they don't need it, but Soviet Navy is actually facing nato navy at coastline, defensive mission make Soviet Navy always owes a large ssk fleet since 1930s for defense mission in eastern asia, and within second Island chains, Chinese will actually need to deploy ssk in several well known area, the guam, japan Philippines coastal area, Indonesia coastal area, and at most Australia coastal area, there is actually no more room for sskn, and you will not expect sskn cross the ocean, that thing is too slow which means lower chance to escape from one to friendly area, only ssn can do these task however, mostly the submarines are playing the role of defensive mission, many nations in the world actually have ssk, but hardly do nations need ssn, as they are not going to start a nuclear war and try to destroy enermy fleet at enermy port, the concept of sskn is a big leap forward of the idea of ssk, sskn can stay as long as possible undercover, which means sskn can do much more than ever and the limitations on ssn will also on sskn, so you will not expect German or Japanese navy or even southern nations actually got their sskn, so the only will get the profit of sskn will be China, Russia, and probably northern Korea, and these are only country in the world actually say no to America and have their ability to say no to America, this is the bad news for western Navy
No information has been released, but I will tell you what my crystal ball says everything aboot this submarine. You can totally trust my crystal ball because my brothers cousins city mayor's leprechaun friend made a youtube video aboot the 13 crystal skulls power
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@@rifgodinho You don't need 10 subs, case in point …the Malvinas war...one Super Étendard, one Exocet and the Argentinians weren't even properly trained on how to use the missile. So do the math ...2 subs, opposite directions, 2 supersonic P 800 each...one USS NIMITZ to the bottom of the ocean…after that US will cry mama and runway!
a new Chinese submarine where everything is secret, here comes this video telling details of the submarine lol what was the source of this video please
There must be something wrong with the Chinese nuclear reactor that they use a diesel propulsion added to their submarine. I like it the endurance of the sub until food runs out the Chinese will feast on their sailors to get extra miles this whole explaination is half baked sweet and sour dish ha ha .
