bad idea. and a lead up to war bcz of isolation of ideas. it makes it easier to nationalize and radicalize. but i have a plan... we will get world peace.. unless war wins the time race
I mean, I suppose having "internet laws" per country isn't necessarily as bad as any global laws, just like laws are different across borders concretely, but it still definitely challenges individualism and freedom of expression, which I suppose China and other corrupt communist states are against, anyways. I'm not surprised that southeast Asian states are following the Chinese model, because these states are economically and politically orbiting the Chinese sun, as it were. However, as long as this system doesn't infect the West in Europe, the Americas and the southern Anglosphere (Australia, NZ, S. Africa), I feel like they're gonna stay in their own bubble. I believe that China is so stubborn to hold their fascist ideals that that system won't change at all unless the people themselves make an effort. With the rise of censored media and face tracking, that's starting to look like a million-to-one chance, but I mean hey, China has one of the two largest populations of any country currently, so I'm optimistic.
Mario it’s how all the Chinese access sites such as RU-vid. So they can defend their government’s actions all while posting on a site that is technically banned by their government....
@Mario Yes but it's a bit of a cat and mouse game. Local servers get blocked, close down and get reopened under a different IP address and port. It's not uncommon for people to carry two mobile devices: one for local traffic and one for unfiltered traffic. IMO with Starlink coming on line in a few years blocking access will get almost impossible.
That type of attitude isn’t helping. Start learning more about net neutrality and proceed to teach more people about it. Otherwise the powers that be are going to get away with this shit.
Actually, China principally wants to maintain it's authoritarian grasp on its own country, and to do that, it must control/censor information within it's borders, and as much as possible within Chinese language media in other countries.
ppl knowing knowledge without biasness is wat they demand so they can hv a view of the world not that the govt will turn the ppl literally thier puppets fktard and in the name of nationalism will use u to disrupt world peace and not only that dont forget ur in a democracy where knowledge without hindrance is important for judgement in electing ur govt
As a Chinese, i can told you that “social credit score” is totally fabricated, Its prototype is China's new Credit Score System which almost only work for banks(things like credit card evaluation stuff). In a such a large and complex country, people will know what they want to know, from ways no matter legal or "illegal".
@@daviddai4991 can i ask you what your opinions on Donald trump are? Do you think he is bad? How do you get information in your country on serious deep state matters? Can you find the Tiananmen Square on regular chinese internet? Im so curious! My country is starting to become like yours and i want to know what i need to expect...
There is NO great firewall in US. There is freedom of speech and expression in US. In China they DENY history and make you disappear if you even question CCP; let alone the concentration camps for millions!!! In US, you CAN question US surveillance. In China, using a VPN is a crime punishable by the law!!!!!! *How is that even a remotely fair comparison* ?!!!
@@MK-fk4kpThe internet is beginning to spread truth very very quickly. It has been accelerating for the last 3 years, they want to put a stop to this. The West owes it to Asia to bring forward Truth because they sure cant for themselves. Blocking the internet is just China's way of stopping a flow of truth, to stop its source they murder whoever is speaking out against them. We used to start wars to prevent the poor and helpless from being exploited ... It seems now the world doesn't care. Keep ignoring that made in china sticker ... forget about the poor man working in a plant for slave labor that made it.
@@MK-fk4kp don't worry democracy is too intoxicating, so much so that when you're used to it, you wouldn't wanna change anything even though however slow the growth maybe.
Too much information also is annoying. Because we filter what we want to see, we create a further divide between right and left. For example, we been arguing about global warming for 20 + years and we still can't reach a consensus. Mean while China is planting fking trees, expanded their rails, built fking artifical cities. Their censorship keeps their people focused on the path ahead, and as long as more and more people are benefiting from the growth, they could fking care less about their life being controlled. We're still arguing about fucking gun safety when we have been over thousands of mass shootings. fucking comeon, Meanwhile, China uses AI to make sure every dark alley way is safe. It's depressing. And before we get in to an arguement over what you and I think about global warming, and gun control, etc. I just wanted to make a point on the fact that we send years/decades over things like these. Our politicians fight over it becuase we vote them in to do so. It's like playing tugg of war. While china, at a snap of a finger, boom "we're goign to plan fking millions of trees"
You either give your slimey Government that power, or you give it to the it-giants.... In the case of social media I picture it like our collective mom is taking away our candy "because the sugar destroys our teeth". But actually the main reason is that sugar causes hyperactivity and addiction, which in turn is stressing her out.
At least Chinese don't have climate change deniers, gun violence or measles outbreak, only in democracies where you can lie without consequences on TV.
@@doujinflip The difference is, there are systems in place to stop corporations without violence-there only needs to be enough will. You cannot stop the Chinese government without violence.
@@vaneokmi The mirroring routers were first designed and supplied to the Chinese authorities by Cisco and they only started using Huawei once Huawei was capable of making similar routers. Cisco claims they didn't specifically tailor them for the regime, but at the very least internal documents from Cisco showed that they knew exactly what they were going to be used for when they sold the routers to the regime.
There is NO great firewall in US. There is freedom of speech and expression in US. In China they DENY history and make you disappear if you even question CCP; let alone the concentration camps for millions!!! In US, you CAN question US surveillance. In China, using a VPN is a crime punishable by the law!!!!!! *How is that even a remotely fair comparison* ?!!!
@@MK-fk4kp Yet 150,000,000 Chinese left China every year to tour the world and all return to China. Why are they not throw away their passport and seek asylum like many other Asian democracy country citizen do when they go to the west.
@@MK-fk4kp who told you it's a crime to use VPN? What do you think I'm using now to visit RU-vid and leave a comment for you? There are tons of vloggers from all over the world like US, Australia, they live in China, do you think they upload their videos while they are behind the bars? Try to search for "where is Poppy" "Blondie in China", "travelight" they are famous, and you can see real China
@@MK-fk4kp How are you supposed to question it when you don't know about it? (for National security reasons ofcourse). How are you supposed to question it when those who expose it are hunted down mercilessly eg Snowden & Assange. It's a legit fair comparison. US ain't as repressive as China but they aren't what they would have us believe they are.
The United States is already controlling the internet content.. For example, here in our country we have access to all movies, music, etc.. even as soon as it's released..
"Those changes only really really have economic consequences, not freedom consequences." You have to be joking, sure ISPs mostly care about getting the most money possible while being a jerk to their customers. But ISPs can manage and block websites from running through it's services. And when money is involved in cutting websites from service, other companies and foreign governments can change what we can see just by paying off the ISP.
@@zUJ7EjVD ppl knowing knowledge without biasness is wat they demand so they can hv a view of the world not that the govt will turn the ppl literally thier puppets fktard and in the name of nationalism will use u to disrupt world peace and not only that dont forget ur in a democracy where knowledge without hindrance is important for judgement in electing ur govt
@drive 95 Article 13 was never meant to destroy meme-making or the production and posting of legal content. It was meant to improve copyright protections and promote better payments to rightsholders for their works that often end up on the internet for everyone to see. Unfortunately though, the thought of content ID technologies being built and deployed does have its unintended side-effects such as mistakenly blocking or erasing content, so that is an issue that will be addressed during the development of each member state's own version of the law that support the directive. However, that doesn't mean the end of fair use, for the EU has clarified that fair use will still be allowed, even with these meaningful changes.
@@zUJ7EjVD I'm not as strong a believer in freedom of the individual and freedom of information as most other people. The same person: these changes only really have economic consequences. I Believe you
Think about if China does not have this cyber wall, millions of Chinese will be affected if US baned google to provide its service to Chinese tech company. However, they have their own cyber system. The US ban hardly have any impact on the ordinary daily life in China.
1 million of Hong Kong people demonstrated on Sunday to against the extradition bill to China and all of a sudden the word “Hong Kong” became censored on search engine and social media like baidu and weibo.
YOU ARE A LIAR!, i am a hong konger here in hong kong, and i use baidu.
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No " firewall", China would be like other countries in the world, all personal data in the hand of google, apple , amazon and facebook. Europe, Japan, Australia, Korea etc have no Cybersovereignty. Data = new strategic resources for a country's future.
LoL. well now their personal data is in the hand of Baidu, similar to Google, and they are required to give all personal data to government and help government censored thing. The bad side is they can arrest you if u flaming china government.
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@@allentey6870 All US companies must collaborate with the US Administration and US intelligence agencies too. You think the US government doesn't have access to your personal information ? Do something crazy, see what will happen on you. The US and Chinese government are both "evils".
Totally partial video, what about the benefits in terms of social stability? SEA has a very complex background in terms of culture and economics where the western concepts of freedom, democracy and etc can't be applied. Different societies find different ways
RU-vid/google has already adapted to the censorship model. Many of my favourite RU-vidrs who make murder case documentaries are being censored, which make them super difficult to operate.
Remember , countries , epecially big countries like India , Brazil can never be able to reach their maximum potential as long as US hegemony is here. They will do anything to cause instability in those ctries when they have reached 60 or 70% of US economic growth. Like the Japanese in the 1970's and 1980's . The pathetic things is Japan was held hostage by America as they needed her in their national defence , thus didn't even put up a fight against the hegmon. To deal with US hegemony, countries had to beef up their industrialization and economy and always have a backup plan against other ctries retaliation. Look at Mexico. Can it say no to US when US decided to punish her by raising tariff on them as and when US like?
Naufal Hilmy that depends.... apple iCloud data for Chinese users are now stored in a company that is founded by the Chinese government specifically for this... instead of being afraid of the US government spying on, you simply start to doubt what will the Chinese government do for the data... Non-Chinese cloud services are usually blocked, partially blocked, semi-functional or regulated in China.
That's right. What's wrong with autocracies wanting to store their citizens' data locally and have full control over it? Everything is half as bad when the GESTAPO arrests opposition citizens at night.
sure, we get in those top universities under common prejudice against Asia but still take up most places. So ur point is totally valid, not fake even with ur superficial garbage community college knowledge at all.
@@王珂-k7d what does garbage community College has to do with the fact that China did not invent anything significant since the invention of the gunpowder? P. S. Come on you can do better than that in your attempt to offend me 😊
Huckleberry Finn certainly Chinese users’ data should be stored in China but not in United States so that it would be much harder for us government to spy on these data like data stored in apple icloud.
@@QiuWong YES! The less data the local authorities have on me, the better! The US authorities don't care if I criticize Putin or participate in demos. The Russian services, on the other hand, like to use this data to distribute money or even prison sentences!
Internet control is just as important as traditional media control. If you don’t control the content. It becomes a hotpot of mess. But China’s control is a bit too much in my opinion. I think it needs to lose up a little bit and trust in the judgement of the people a little more. I am Chinese btw.
Watching this from in China. There's very little that can be done to stop people bypassing blocks. And a lot of those laws about keeping data within a country is the due to American extraterritorial laws that extend American jurisdiction to people in other countries if they're doing anything that involves American servers. Truly ridiculous laws that allow America to play World Police.
So a few people sitting in an office can decide what you can and can't see, that is utterly ridiculous. Most of these countries have democracies, so those who you voted for will impede your rights? South East asia really is a strange place.
Lol... ask any developer in China, they will admit they need VPN to access "blocked" foreign websites in order to do day-to-day coding and developing. "Blocking internet does not lead to any impediment of technological invention" is bollocks.
@Mario Apparently about half of American cares about Trump's tweets. And US government is run by these tweets right now. Remember the time when the Secretary of State was fired with tweet when the USSoS himself had no clue he was fired?
What nonsense. In contrast to China, opinion pluralism prevails in the Net. Every idiot can express his opinion to the outside world and other idiots can follow this. The best example is RU-vid. It's not optimal, but it's better than the CP monopoly of opinion. It is also not television where only the mainstream prevails.
@@huckleberryfinn6578 Thats why you are nothing but a keyboard warrior...you don,t even realize how the internet has enslaved you to a point of being a troll
if that model gets implemented, one could argue that nations that don't censor or manipulate online data but would do the opposite would gain a significant amount of pulling force from those who work to innovate the way we live now or things work. So as much as this is a bad development, it at least might be one way for other countries to close the growing power gap when compared to China.
There's a reason behind censored internet that might work for some countries and not others. China has a huge population of close to 1.5 billion. If the United States decides to use big data in Google and propaganda to promote a revolution like they have done in about a dozen countries in the middle east, all they need is 1% of the people to be convinced and that's 1.5 Million people. 3% of the people convinced to radical ideas and thinking is 4.5 Million people.There are hundreds of million Chinese who are uneducated with no critical thinking skills.
The Chinese government just don't like to admit their fault in the past and came up with a beautiful name to control what they want you to know. History can't be deleted. Admit your wrongdoings, it's no big deal. It's all in the past by the way. History needs truth, not packaged deception. 我是馬來西亞的華人，我覺得每個國家的政府應該勇於承認自己的過失並加以改正而不是掩蓋事實。
On one hand the intentional spreading of false information to further an agenda is very damaging to a country and can have serious long lasting effects. But on the other hand people should have the right to lie and purport falsehoods under freedom of speech. The effectiveness or lack of effectiveness of information whether true or false is dependent on the critical thinking skills of the person consuming it. Have a consumer base with poor critical thinking skills and you end up with Trump as president, anti-vaxxers, people believing there are more than 2 genders, and people wanting open borders.
@@allentey6870 Ya, they replace health bar with something else, and when it reach zero, your character won't die, just wave and say goodbye to the one !killed u, lol. That is fucking hilarious.
Thats why we want India to stand strong as protector of democracy and human rights as long as India stands strong china can't expand its evil plan in asia
@@MrWiddy-my8ix yes if you compare it with per capita then it is poor then china is also poor but if compare overall purchasing power than its ranked no 2
Most of these countries have already banned 1000s of websites. This isn't anything new. But the laws to arrest people have. So your article should have focused on internet based crime, or repression
If I ever get to some "world leader" position, I would use this position to ban RU-vid videos featuring "Chocolate Surprise Eggs" and "Elsa Toys Frozen" this sort of videos.
