I have driven the NIO ET7 in Shanghai. It is formidable. I have three cars on my list Porsche Taycan (great handling but poor tech) , BMW Xi 60 great car and best German tech (pity about the buck teeth and side view) and the NIO ET7 probably the best. NIO ET7 is fast, comfortable, has long-range, handles and its appearance is up there with the Taycan (arguably the best-looking EV). The ET7 will probably win, best tech, infrastructure (super charger network) and battery swapping plus fantastic everything.
@@cleey Crazy, though we are lucky. We live in a house with a garden but we cannot leave our area. We have been locked down for 14 days on Friday, but it feels like a lifetime. It is the first time my movement has been this curtailed since I have lived here. I wonder when it will end?
I just took delivery of a Chinese car today. Chery is the brand. Tiggo 4 pro is the model. Amazing features and build quality. We looked at a vw T-cross as the alternative and with the features of the chery in the vw, it literally costs double the price of the chery. Chinese cars are no longer a laughing matter!
@@amochswohntet99 Yeah their market share is like 0.01% in Europe and maybe 5% in China, but 5% share of the car market in China means about 1 million cars, keep laughing mate.
I was abroad in Vancouver studying for a few years. And after my journey I went back to China, I was surprised how much the vehicles on the road has changed. A lot of them are EV‘s and most of them are car brands I don’t know. Even my uncle has got a new BYD. The one thing surprised me the most is the traditional delivery truck are all changed to EV’s while remaining their traditional shape.
I also studied in Vancouver. I'm originally from India but i do have some relatives in Hongkong. I was really shocked to see my uncle's MG zs ev. It's cheaper than hyundai kona and has an amazing range too of 420 km. That car is half the price of my c class in India and equally fast. I'm very happy with China's progress. Jaguar is also owned 50 percent by a chinese company.
@@youngdrug5927 Jaguar is owned by India company (Tata Motors) --- but they have Chinese market - factory for cars too-- maybe this is owned 50% by Chinese company, not everything
I've invested in BYD because other car companies will be using the BYD Blade Batteries. They already contracts with Tesla, Toyota and Subaru. The Blade Battery (which is LFP) is less expensive than most current batteries and will keep getting better energy density. We will probably see it in many other auto brands.
Living here in China, I’ve bought an EV car last month. I bought the VW ID.4, not because it is the best one, but because it’s least wanted EV car in Chinese market, I don’t have to wait for half a year like other Chinese domestic brands. Other EV cars are soooo popular that buyers have to wait for probably half a year to get the ordered car.
@@fukuoka33 no，ID4 price range from ¥187300-¥287300, and the ¥287300 one is a 4 wheel drive, which is not popular. Most people by ¥245800 one and ¥248300 one. On the other hand, Chinese domestic brands like NIO, zeeker, Xpeng or Li, is much more expensive than VW, but sold better than VW. So it’s not only about price.
I’m glad more car journalists are talking about Chinese car manufacturers because a lot of people still think everything made in China are either cheap knock offs or things that’ll break after a few uses. The irony is most of the things you wear or have in your house is made in China. Even brands that are traditionally from other countries source parts or are made in China.
I don't understand this myth because China manufactures almost all standards like European American Asian. They got everything from cheap to filthy expensive. Apple phones made in China. Samsung has factories in China. Xiaomi readme Huawei are all leading tech companies giving competition to all leading western brands. China is not behind in anything
Nice Video Matt, you forgot to mention that the red London bus is also made by BYD. And Ford, GM etc buy their batteries from China. Like everyone else, I am looking forward to the cost of new EV's dropping in price. Probably will not happen until at least 2023 as everyone selling EV's currently has a massive waiting list.
If everyone drove EV vehicles tomorrow the electrical grid would melt. If you really are for electric vehicles then you should be lobbying your government and writing your MP's to invest the trillions of dollars required to upgrade the infrastructure necessary to support a society of electric vehicles.
@M F so many really don't research nor try to understand the behind the scenes of what it would really take to have everyone driving EVs. Heck a couple of 100 EVs in a normal neighborhood could cripple that grid lol.
I don't know GM, but Ford doesn't buy it's batteries from China. They buy from a South Korean company. They are also investing in a plant with the same company.
@@aminfozdar well i work in the automotive industry, so i am aware of that. But in 2019 i saw the first e-Golf priced at 41000€ at the motorshow in Brussels. One year later in 2021 i saw the same model priced at 28000€. That is a large difference just to be one year later even when the model might have been end of series. I just feel that the prices are not what they should be atm and that government grants keep prices higher.
In the chilean market, chinese brands like Haval/Great Wall, MG, Chery and JAC are gaining big positions in terms of market share and sold units (in 2021 some models of MG and Chery was in the Top 10). In my opinion (excluding EV cars), i think that Haval, MG and Chery will have the huge advance on this decade.
Just to add some more info, they reached a market share of 38% of the Chilean market and are widely expected to surpass the 40% milestone for this year. I daily a GWM car, have had it for almost 5 years and I haven't had any issue. Nothing has failed or broken and maintenance has been cheap, easy and uneventful.
Thanks for your info. Can I ask what are the Chinese cars' main edge in your market? Quality or price? Is the reliabilty comparable to Japanese and Korean cars? What about fuel efficiency? thanks!
@@ProCelestialEmpire initial edge absolutely was price and offering more for your buck but that has evolved into being more about bringing exactly what the market wants (mainly SUVs and Pickups), opening and exploiting new niches (relatively affordable 7-seaters), offering a considerable variety always well-kitted out and with plenty of tech as standard. Nowadays they cost almost the same as most competitors but come with more equipment that people value, like disc brakes on all fours, alloys as standard and have not fallen yet to the godawful practice of offering entry level models with uglier bumpers and simpler halogen headlamps that scream "poverty spec" and look nothing like the promotional shoots. They generally come in very competitive and carefully crafted trim levels that outdo the rivals. Other factors include the usual word of mouth spreading that they're pretty mechanically solid and cheap to run, aggressive marketing campaigns with improved warranties, attractive financing and having had more availability during the last two years of worldwide disruption. Also, a lot of consumers have a sense that the competition has been "leveling-down" as they are no longer manufacturing their entry level models and even some more expensive ones in Japan or Korea but have moved to India, Thailand and Brazil. They're still not the best on fuel consumption, as many of the most desirable and demanded products drive on turbo fours which, when pushed, can be quite thirsty but they have polished those considerably as well. They have been here for about 15 years and this is a furiously competitive market, with no import tariffs and 80+ brands representing just about every manufacturing country so it's clear they have been doing some things extremely well.
Chinese cars have come a long way. They are becoming popular in South Africa. One of the manufacturers called Chery offer a car with a 10 year, 1000000km warranty.
This is a really good, interesting, informative article. One thing that hasn't been mentioned in respect to BYD is the rest of its business. Cars now account for about half of the company's revenue, but it built itself up into a huge company doing two things. First, acting as an OEM for phone and computer makers. But secondly, and more importantly for this article, BYD has always been a battery manufacturer. At one point, about 70% of the world's mobile phones and about 70% of the world's laptops used BYD batteries. I'm not sure what the figure is now, but it's still quite a lot. So, for years and years, BYD has been building up enormous expertise on rechargeable batteries. And those are the difficult bits of an EV. Going from being a legacy carmaker to an EV maker requires either that you spend huge amounts of time and money on battery R&D, or that you outsource your batteries - usually to a Chinese or Korean company. BYD, on the other hand, just had to stick some wheels and seats on its batteries. BYD first ventured into ICE cars in, I think, the mid-2000s, and they were awful. Now their focus is on EVs, and they really are at the forefront of the industry. And they're not even the biggest Chinese battery company. That's CATL, who make the batteries for the BMW iX3 among other things. If the world had stuck to ICE cars, I'm not sure China would ever really have caught up with Japan and Germany and Korea in terms of technology and quality. But the switch to EVs was a real opportunity for Chinese carmakers.
Nice breakdown. But I do believe that the chip shortage is not affecting BYD because they own a chip manufacturer that is a significant part of their business.
Great sum up, thanks😊I own Xpeng P7 Performance (Norway) and its a wonder of a car. Extremely comfortable driving, very quick, silent and awesome looking. Love it😊
Any concerns about spare parts, maintenance, and repairs? Even Tesla is notorious for having long lead times and high prices for even simple fixes. How do you think your car would fare in terms of support after 5-10 years?
@@xiuxiu1108 No more concerns than the BMW I4 M50 I also own. I cannot predict the future, but any Company that wanna make it, would have to fare well in such matters
The "biohazard air filter" is just an active carbon filter for the cabin. You can get those for most cars and they cost a little more than the original ones. They can be good if you live in a large city.
That should be standard in China , they have the worst Air quality created by Man, ( fumes and gases from volcano's and geyzers are worse , but rarely anyone sniffs them )
the architecture of a HEPA (or "bio hazard air filter") is different, plus they do cost more money, and are 10 times larger at most (sourced from electrek). here is a good video about them ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Dx9wrIfqhjM.html
Geely actually has another EV brand called 'ZEEKER' and the first production car it made was ZEEKER 001. Guess it's only available in China for now but it's definitely a pretty good car.
It's a Lynk and Co. car. Lynk and Co. is part of CEVT and there's a European (Swedish) element to it. There are two Geelys. Geely Auto is the company that makes a line of cars. ZGH, Geely Holding, is the company that owns brands of vehicles. Zeeker is kind of the sporty electric brand to Lynk and Co. which is part of the Geely Holding group of brands.
In the next past, I used to associate Chinese cars with something cheap and unreliable in every aspects of a car. Eventually, a couple of month ago, I got to see and test BYD HAN and was completely blown by it’s high-level quality, tech and reliability (according to one’s who owned such cars for a whale of time). Then I checked several other vehicles too (Zeekr 01, BYD Song, NIO ET7 etc). After these times, I started to appreciate Chinese ELECTRIC (still not sure about Chinese cars with ICE) cars for real. In fact, I’m considering of buying one of them as a daily driver.
@@sinosaffer8015 I don't get why you have to come on to the politics. Have you ever been to China? I bet not, or you'll find out China really is not going in that way
@@jiangluotian9576 I lived in Yunnan for 14 years so i have direct experience of government collusion with the automotive industry to replicate "western tech". It never lasts long because they are still far behind in R&D and creativity is stifled in a communist society in order to encourage conformity.
Oil-rich Norway is happy to extract and refine oil, but through tax and registration incentives has the world's largest per capita take up of electric vehicles. It also has some of the world's most expensive petrol at $2.771 per litre.29 Aug 2021...kind of makes sense right there. Their not taking up EV's cos someone thought it was a cute idea ...it's the friggin cost of petrol driving it.
Electricity costs are also skyrocketing in Norway, and combined with inflation it’s not gonna be cheap to run electric cars either. Still more economical, but it’s not gonna last. I live there and I have an EV.
Hypocrits at their best. Sell oil but YOU cannot use it in your OWN country ? Why don't people realise they'll increase electricity prices to whatever the fuck when you all buy EVs ? Freedom amirite. Fuck EVs and I'll never buy that fake eco shit
@@Luke-PlanesTrainsDogsnCars No, the oil in Norway does not screw the population. Norway has diffrent tax system, when a Norwegian pay tax (about 25%) they also pay for school, hospitality and other community services. Norway is also one of the happiest countrys in the world.
Toyota and Geely design cars for different purposes. Toyota is more inclined towards utility (they have a huge history of making utilitarian, reliable vehicles). Not the best interior, not the best exterior, couple of outdated features, but the best in reliability.
@@amaguri8446 By next year, NIO will introduce itslef to 25 other countries and many more the following year. Currently has job vacanices for UK/US roles, they will conquere. BUY shares now, or DCA.
@@W204_Muj Actually it is 25 countries and regions by 2025.. By years end add Sweden, Denmark, Netherlands, & Germany to the list.. Also ET5, ES7, 150kwh battery pack, & phase 1 of 16950 acre Neo Park to the list.. Next Year 1800 acre plant in NEO Park will start construction of their Sub brand, & those models are in the late stages of development!!!! NIO is literally just starting their product super cycle & IMHO has the potential to become a juggernaut. ✅✅
GWM has been selling cars in South Africa for 10-years. Their Haval brand are awesome SUV that does not have to stand back to anything Toyota, Ford or the other car manufacturers offer.
i've always had that idea of replacing the battery, here in iraq i've always seen byd & geely, maybe haven't noticed other chinese brands, i think i also saw somewhere that there's a manufacturing plant here for a particular brand of chinese cars
In SA the Haval Jolion is selling like hot cakes. From a distance looks like a great offering. All these were started by the H9, H6 and H2 back in 2017. And by the looks of things they not slowing down. That Jolion and H6, I want one of them.
Respect for being not political and talk cars. China produced top EV cars competition for Tesla etc, raising the bars, benefiting everyone The momentum China is making EV cars and other tech stuff you see why everyone is scared, a threat but a good one for consumers. The number of superchargers in big cities in China is impressive. The infrastructure support behind EV sales is also important to successful car sales.
"Benefiting everyone"... nope! Chinese minoritys and democratic movement does not profit at all. After years of stealing Knowhow from westerners, of course they get better and now when they got everything they need to crush western Markets, it will go back to culture revolution, blaming western democracy and ultra nationalist war mongering... what about Moral and Ethic stand against fascist dictatorship?
As a geely owner I can proudly say that most Chinese brands can easily compete with the current market. The stigma about Chinese brands isn’t all true.
A recent Australian Strategic Policy Institute report indicates that the Chinese government “has facilitated the mass transfer of Uyghur and other ethnic minority citizens from the far west of Xinjiang,” to work in factories across the country. '“Under conditions that strongly suggest forced labor, Uyghurs are working in factories that are in the supply chains of at least 82 well-known global brands in the technology, clothing and automotive sectors."
@@godzuks "A recent Australian Strategic Policy Institute [a notorious Fake News Producer] report indicates that the Chinese government" . . . Fixed it forya. You are very welcome/
battery swapping is soooo much better then charging stations. plus it also makes the lifespan of an electric car much longer and therefore greener. tesla makes it so its more expensive to change your battery then actually buying a new car....
Little correction. XPeng P7 driving range depends on which model you get starts from 349 miles to 439 miles per charge. The car’s heart n soul is the amazing build quality and AI technology. Comes fully loaded even if you get the base model.
Just Love Nio!!! I leave in an urban area. Will have battery anxietry without battery swapping. The best part I dont own the battery, making the car cheaper to purchase and no worries of faulty battery.
The Volkswagen ID.R holds the lap record (for an electric car) for the Nürburgring at 6:05.336 beating the Nio by 40.564 seconds which was the previous holder and the fastest thing round the Nurburgring was set by the Porsche 919 Hybrid Evo at 5:19:545.
@@ericcoskun1 The record is for the fastest electric car round the Nurburgring, not the fastest electric production car! The Nio EP9 is not a production car either as its only built for the track and is not road legal and was never exported outside of China. The fastest electric production car round the Nurburgring belongs to the Tesla Model S Plaid that did the lap in 7 minutes 30 seconds in 2021.
@@antonthompson7838 10 EP9 was sold at the price of 2500000 euro. So, yes. It was a production car, you can't buy an ID.R on the other hand. not even you have trillion(maybe you could just buy vw at that point).
Here in Chile, Chinese cars have been present since more than 15 years. In the beginning, the cars weren’t very reliable, metal and plastics sounded a lot, in therms of materials, they looked cheap when you entered to one of those cars. Now, the construction and quality have improved to reach Japanese, North American or European quality, or at least, very close to the quality of the most traditional manufacturers
After watching coverage on the Chinese EV market via channels like Fully Charged I've been hoping many of these manufacturers bring their offerings to the North American/Canadian market.
I am afraid that Canada government will follow the USA to block China cars to Canada like what they do with Huawei. Actually USA and Canada are not the real free markets .
@@bryandeng570 that’s fine, the rest of the world will love owning reliable high quality affordable EVs while Canada and the US eat shit and go bankrupt. The US is a “has been” country and Canada is a “never was” country. By the end of this decade the US, Canada, EU, UK, Australia will be economically left behind. I think Japan and South Korea will wise up and realize the 21st century is the “EAST century”. The “white-anglo” west will wallow in their own shitholes to try and control their dysfunctional, fractured, bankrupt, angry, violent and crime infested societies together
Better not sell in the US. Afterwards the authorities will find some fault and fine you....like they did Mitsubishi and Volkswagen. They will be selective when the need calls for.
I've always been an admirer of Chinese cars simply because they're so cheap yet somehow efficient and though it's the same for Japanese I always looked at Chinese as unique
PLEASE ...make one more video about more Chinese brands like HiPhi, Li Auto, Zeekr, GAC, Wuling ,Aito/Huawei, Enovate... Living in Shenzhen in last 4 years I must say that Chinese are making new car brand every month or two....faster than top countries are making models of their brands.
i have actually seen the "red flag" in Dubai like 4 days ago and immediately i had to google the hell out of it i seriously thought ive seen it all by now.. this SUV looks ARTISTIC !!
The reason why it has the best sales is probably its low price (£4k - 6k). But tbh, this car has really small power, and it will do only 120 KM on a single charge. I've seen a crash test for this car, and it has an awful performance so the safety of it is really concerned.
@@leonardchen817 u are right about the safety...but it's still the champion best seller. Making a good car with big budget is hard but never as hard as makes a really cheap car and can still manage to profit. That's why all European/US EV companies focus in expensive EV for the rich. There are more poor people in this world. Making a cheap EV will have a much greater impact in co2 emmision reduction.
Great video Matt. We live in Qatar and we have a Geely Azkarra. It’s a great cheap SUV it’s full of tech and only cost us just over £17k. Would be good if Geely came to the UK
Advantages of swapping batteries: You can rent larger batteries for a long journey. You dont pay upfront for the battery. You dont experience battery degradation. Battery charging can be done with slower charging, protecting battery life and making the energy usage more efficient (better for environment and wallet). Easier and cheaper to change battery in your local workshop. Possibly of standardization of batteries among manufacturers, easier and cheaper access to them (for consumers and manufacturers). Disadvantages: Not easily scalable, more costly expansion, you need more batteries than cars in circulation. Standardization could help, but not easy to convince manufacturers to do so, and it reduces competitiveness and slow down improvements.
This can very well be true in 5 years time. The west was owning car production because of the complicated ICE engines where it had a clear advantage of decades of RnD and experience. Now with EVs the need for ICE tech goes out the window. Future cars are essentially just a computer on wheels, and guess who's be leading in tech production for the past 20 years, China. Hire some world class designers, from RR, bmw, audi, ferrari, with the low cost manufacturing, I bet my bottom dollar China will lead the automobile industry in 10 years time easy.
Tech isnt lead by china we had to junk all our chinese automation after a few years cause of reliability issues we are now using german stuff but alot of it is poorly translated in the menus. Or not at all lol.
Had no idea they had batteryswapping stations, I've ben going on about this for years that this must be a far better sollution than only recharging them! So happy to se that theyre doing it. And as allways, great video Matt (and the team)!
Even China spent years to build 1000+ battery swapping stations to form up the swapping network. Imagine how many years would UK take to build same scale of stations. Gosh it took them 3 years to resurface M4
@@amaguri8446 bro here in America 🇺🇸 most of the construction takes forever. China builds skyscrapers in less then a year but in US it takes several years idk why. Here in my state that I live in which is Michigan we have roads that are shitty. They barely invest on fixing roads with potholes. Some of the roads are fixed but most of the roads are still terrible to drive. China can do that in less then a week at this point
It's not just the rise in the Chinese brands, it's also dominance in EV components by Chinese companies. CATL and BYD are already the leading battery suppliers. and they supply batteries many top automakers in Europe, America and Japan as well. Huawei is also doing very well in autonomous driving and Smart EV operating system. So it's the rise of the entire automobile industrial supply chain from China. Many if not most Western and Japanese automakers are not prepared.
In Thailand Chinese EV car aleady dominate the market. SAIC and GWM. But GWM got many random issue. SAIC (MG) is the EV best selling car in Thailand. I am using BYD M3/T3 is totally fine. Less maintenance and reliable. This year BYD will invest in Thailand. EV Market will be boom.
The ORA Cat looks like the perfect electric car, full of character and the reviews I've seen (including by you, Matt, as I recall) suggest it's well made and well designed.
Xpeng is only listed in new york, cant buy those shares. Got me some NIO, performance is bad right now, but im holding and buying the dip :) Lets see what this brings in 5 years.
The American-Chinese Joint Venture, Wuling, is also getting popular in Indonesia. The cars have good feature for affordable price. More expensive Japanese cars don't even have their feature like voice command. I'm glad the Chinese force those old giants to wake up.
Honestly, as long as they can produce safe reliable vehicles, I welcome them. Sadly it's reaching a crazy point in pricing and I'm not sure how long America can push the $60,000+ SUVs and trucks. Competition is good, driving innovation and hopefully offering people with moderate incomes chance to get into a vehicle that is safe and in warranty.
Born in China, study in Germany, Still can't understand why the manufacturers from western could push the price of an EV up to $60,000, just a madness. If you live in China you could buy a solid good looking ev under $35,000.
@@brantleyfoster021 I always remind myself that when Datsun, Honda and Toyota showed up on US shores, they were kind of miserable little guys, with rust issues etc. The Japanese and now Korea learned as they went, always improving. I think we'll see the same from China. I've already seem them shift away from the copy cat to some quite attractive vehicles with drastically improved fit and finish. But, if the structures are lacking the R&D to be safe for the occupants, then it's all for nothing. We live in a world of choice, and the consumers are the winner for sure. You are correct, Japan does build reliable vehicles. Just wish the dealer network was more plentiful. Living in rural communities equates to a two hour round trip for me had I chosen a Mazda CX5 Signature that I wanted. I guess every one has different situations and priorities when it comes to considering their vehicle. 😁
@@stacyholt6529 The original Honda NSX is still the most reliable supercar ever made. Japan was the one that broke the trend where supercars needed to be unreliable & unpredictable to be viewed as character. The Datsun was reliable mechanically, but the ones who bought them didn't always look after them since they were so cheap to buy. So they were often left out in the element's all the time instead of garaged.
The idea with the swapping car batteries in 5 minutes is the best idea for the EV , I thought of that the first day the electric cars came into production. Should be a default thing.
@Planes Trains & Dogs n Cars 100% in less then 5 min and you get a new battery every time. Or upgrade for longer range if you plan a longer trip. Also if your battery goes bad you don't need to pay 20k for a replacement like tesla.
You are so right, sir. And guess what, this is an EV that people can really get, not those sci-fi imagination or something only has a prototype, this thing, is the reality in China , now and today .
@@TV-us1ue how cool is that. And in the city where the car should drive 100% autonomous , like a personal tram , it could have like a wire underneath that powers the car , ...the infarstructure is important too.
@@ekxxx123 he just said EV, and are you sure the Nio is a production car, cause its not on the official list of the nürburgring, they say the fastest production EV is the Plaid.
@@ekxxx123 Check the NIO EP9 if it's road regal as well and afaik all the units sold i.e only 16 isn't registered for road use. Also 16 units doesn't make a production car.
2012 - "I will never buy a Chinese car"; 2022 - "I did not say that!" BYD is actually the one to be most afraid of - it has one of the most complete chain of technologies. They started really early in hybrid and electric powertrain technologies and their products built in the past 5 years showed excellent reliability. Many of the EVs used in China as taxis, rental cars, and ubers has done over 350,000km now and according to the operators they showed almost zero issues with a completely acceptable ~10% - 15% battery capacity degradation. Many of those cars are still on original brake pads thanks to the KERS. Lynk&Co. is another one to watch out for. They are essentially Volvos ranging from XC40 to XC90 at half the price. And it is like those Xiaomi phones - same hardware and operating system, but cheaper and, to certain groups of people, better UI and features.
Interesting headline teaser. I went to a car show in Brussels many years ago and was amazed at all the great cars not sold in the US. Chinese cars may expand their ‘market’, but IMHO will never ‘rule’ the US. They’ll never be allowed to reach the US market in those kind of numbers, ie govt import restrictions…
If the US ever tries to ban China car imports, then China will just ban US automakers from doing business in China. Instant collapse of US car industry since 80% of their revenues from China these days.
The Hongqi E-HS9 is also sold in Norway. I've sat in one in a dealer and I was offered a test drive. I didn't have the time then, but I might go test one in the future. The same dealer also sell BYD, in addition to Volvo, Ford, Mitsubishi and Renault.
I suggest when price is good sell... Not because NIO will go bust no It's because war is coming for China ~2024 Obviously China will prevail and her motor industry will go from strength to strength but the dip and dive For decades (world wide war by end of this decade 2030) Also who knows what happens It will have been good to get in low & hold especially Huawei (HarmonyOS will rule the world) but it will take few decades for relationships to fully normalize
Just don't have them if you live near the sea. More than a few in Australia have exhibited premature rusting. in one recent court case here, the Judge was absolutely scathing about the poor quality.
Own a Dongfeng Sokon Glory 580 Pro in Pakistan. Personally, one of the most value to money cars. A 7 seater with features and amenities rivalling its competitors yet almost PKR. 1 Million or £. 4500 cheaper.
I realised when he said nurberring (sorry idk the spelling😜) but I thought he was not gonna get kicked , but I bursted out laughing so hard when he kicked him 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
Battery swapping seems like a dead-end technology. Charging is simply better. Imagine trying to scale up a battery swapping station. You would require on average 5 battery packs per customer on hand at the swap station, because it would take a long time to recharge each one. Not to mention the logistics and complexity involved with ensuring that the used battery pack is in good enough condition. Add to that the fact that most every single EV model has different battery packs and nothing is standard. With new EV's coming out with structural battery packs, this will be impossible, and eventually charge times will be on par with gas filling, so it will be a non issue anyways and the whole effort would go to waste. There's a reason tesla abandoned it after trying back in 2013.
It's super popular in China right now, there are 1200 battery swapping stations in China already. A station holds about 20 battery packs too, you should step out of your room and see where the world is progressing towards. Tesla abandoned doesn't mean it's a no-go.
@MariQ s I'm not talking about NIO alone, there are many battery swapping companies in China. In Beijing, many BAIC taxis can swap batteries so taxi drivers won't need to waste their time to charge up their cars. 24,000 cars is a small number, Tesla sells over 35,000 Model 3s in China each month, and owners get about $10,000 discount on cars without batteries. Win-win situation, also you need to know people mostly live in apartments where they can't charge from home unlike the individual houses in the west, or they have to install charging boxes themselves, so battery swapping makes sense there.
We have a Haval H6 from GWM here in Australia and for the money, it spearheads the RAV4 and Hyundai Tucson. Top of the range for those 2: $55,000. The H6 Ultra? $41,000. It's unbelievable value for money without compromise
@@shawndonadieu4084 I know plenty actually. The reason American cars cost so much is the labor. The unions have the companies by the you know what. I’m not saying that the car company itself necessarily is running a sweat shop but I would bet the supplier’s are. It’s same with things like electronics too. Apple products are built in sweat shops.
@@shawndonadieu4084 Plus Chinese branded cars won’t pass our stringent safety tests so they can’t be sold to the public. An issue you don’t have with your death traps 🪤
Chinese cars are getting better and better, hopefully they’ll be popular in the future like other countries’ cars, that’s all we want, I am a Chinese person who wants the best for China and for China to be strong and prosperous. We don’t need prejudiced, ignorant jokes about China or Chinese products, some Chinese products are good quality when the effort is put in (you might eat your words and humble pie if Chinese products are good in the future, China is like any other country like western countries and Japan when they want to innovate.), and we don’t need ignorant, prejudiced comments about the CPC (it’s not CCP) China’s government and ruling party, China can produce some nice and amazing cars, focus on the products and rising living standards of Chinese people who are happy in China. China doesn’t want to take over the world, China just wants to be a prosperous equal member of the world, it’s the US empire that wants to take over the world.
