I fitted one to the outside of my house in an enclosure last winter. Insulated the hot air pipe into the house with layers of cooking foil and wire straps, many layers. Took a double glazed window out and replaced it with marine ply then drilled holes through for the heater pipe to the house and cold air intake from the inside of the house to the heater unit. All runs from a. Ecoflow delta max via a 12 volt transformer. Kept the upstair of the house around 14C in the evening, rather that the 7 or 8 C it was at before switching on the heater. Sad times we have to resort to this considering the staggering ptofit the producers, government and suppliers are making. Just to force us not to use our gas boilers, absolutely disgusting. Time for a REVOLUTION people. YOU WILL OWN NOTHING AND YOU WILL BE HAPPY.
@@elloko8303 Exactly! Otherwise you are pressing out the warm air from inside trough all the leaks available. This suggested way you are providing a much more energy-saving criculation!
Get a carbon monoxide monitor - if you pull the heat from the outside where the exhaust is you pull the exhaust gas too - you need a way longer exhaust tube well away from your air intake !
I've installed a diesel engine with all the coolant systems connected to the nearby radiators. I've used an oil cooler to further heat another nearby radiator. I've even connected the air-conditioning system that can cool an average room within an hour from 30c to 19c. The exhaust heat is used to heat water in a storage tank. This is further heated by three solar panels offering me 300 watts of output plus another 100 watts from a wind turbine connected to the generator/alternator. I've boxed the engine into a fully insulated enclosure. I was spending around £25 a day before, and now it's around £5. I use other automated features of start stop when I'm generating power for free. The total setup cost was around £500. I used VW parts and Toyota parts. I'm looking into how I can make a bigger version of a lambda sensor to generate electricity like the Egyptians did thousands of years ago.
Not sure if it’s been mentioned already in the comments but your exhaust routing should always be installed with a downwards gradient/angle throughout its length to prevent moisture retention.
Keep the unit in the house, run the exhaust into a oil cooler rad and use the 12v power supply to run fans to blow the warm air , obviously reroute the bad exhaust fumes back out the property as initially intended. This method will encrease efficiency greatly. You could locate the heater close too a adjoining room and therefore route the oil rad to the adjoining room
Keep the unit in a fire rated insulated box outside the house. If it was a webasto or equivalent that might be different. He’s thinking about his family’s safety here.
However careful you are, there's always drips going somewhere, so in the house is a non starter. If it fails spectacularly as a lot are expecting these Chinese heaters to, outside the house is also safer place. The only disadvantage is it will have to work harder because it will be drawing in cold Air all the time. Apologies for any typos, I'm in the pub. I have an '8kw' (doubtful it's that much, but it does get hot!) The garage is warm all day, and once paired to remote, & turned down to minimum, it uses about 1 - 1.5 litres a day. Far cheaper than conventional heating under current rip off charges. I run mine on Kerosene (paraffin) It draws only 10w on minimum and only about 30-40w on full chat (I can't remember which) up to about 150w starting up, heating the glow plug. Only for a couple of minutes.
@@Erasmuspipebagger1 I’ve had a little black one in my double garage for 2 years now and the glow plug had just broken down. Took it out and it’s cracked new one ordered from eBay for £10. Brillliant little heaters
@Gary Barnard before this, I had a 5kw Webasto Thermotop heating a large radiator in the garage. This is way better. I've also had an eberspacher air & Webasto air. Both way noisier than this. Eberspacher was unreliable.
It would be a lot more efficient if you wasn't constantly heating cold air from outside. You really only need the exhaust to be pumped outside but circulate the air being heated. Either way I would recommend having a good co2 detector.
Get some old oil from local chip shop add a lil white spirit cheaper again , I been running one these in my camper van for years great bits kit , don't run it on lowest setting knocks fuel pump out quicker on diesel or oil run one up from lowest setting
I got an LPG heater in my campervan. Could you share what's an advantage to use this set up in the house pls? Is it much cheaper over other ways ?? Cheers 👍
Please people don't think these will replace your existing heating system, they won't... They will heat one room No more. These are best used for heating sheds n garages... they are designed for small enclosed spaces, motor homes,truck cabs etc...
Attention!!! These exhausts will burn a hole through wood or anything not fire proof below it! Be careful and add some fireproofing beneath it. Don’t ask me why I know this! 🤦🏼♂️
I am using one to heat under the 5th rv trailer i reside in...and it's doing an excellent job of keeping the pipes and floor rated during our Canadian winter.....been as low as -25 c so far
With the air intake grill cut off & another 3" pipe going through the wall will give you recuculation & hotter heat,which will work properly with the thermostat temperature controller, indoors.& a fall on the exorst , otherwise it will chock with water buildup or cokes up, putting an overload of carbon inside the burn chainber.better still an silencer with the condensation hole pointing down ,you will loose that rar sound of the exorst.
You are loosing quite a bit of heat by having it on the outside mate . A better setup is with the unit inside and a much longer exhaust . The reason being that the unit itself will radiate heat (which you are now losing) and the same goes for the exhaust . A much longer exhaust means that you will have a very hot pipe in your house ,basically a radiator and you will need to shield that somehow so that no one gets burned by it .
Yes indeed.. a very lot cleaner than the dirty green energy.. green energy is only a good investment for the stake holders who sell these dirty green energy to the customers
2 tips! Keep the heater inside, it will last longer, the humidity and elements destroys it fast. Also keep inside or at least pipe the intake air from inside to increase heating power, recirculateing air insted of heating cold air from outside.
Could you do a more in depth video about this? Like discussing what time it took any problem you had getting it working and how much consumption vs temp output and also your climate? Thanks for sharing this
@@enderwiggin9303 thank you for trying to answer my questions, but ironically I actually watched that video yesterday....just looking for as many perspectives as possible. I see this gentleman made it work for his needs but I don't quite understand how his situation compares to my own. Can I heat a whole shop or just a shed.....it's below freezing in the morning where I live and it's only beginning to chill. If it's affordable to keep my shop at 50F all winter I might spend the money and time to do it but if it's more to just warm up for a time then I'll just keep using propane when i get really cold
@@michaelosmon I see! I saw the short after watching the one I linked.. I'd say if you're real cold put it inside.. watch for co emissions and put a smallish fan to blow across the stupid hot exhaust.. Ive only seen the two videos but I get -20 most of the winter and I think with decent insulation and proper placement this might out preform my propane 'rocket-jet' style heaters.. What are you using and how cold?
@@enderwiggin9303 currently I use just a Mr buddy heater to warm up my hands and behind...I usually leave it burning most of the day if its below freezing out. I have a large cylinder propane heater for painting or something like that when I need it warm in there. It uses a 20lb tank every 90 minutes but I only run it for about 5 minutes every 20 or 30 minutes. I spent about $100 last winter on propane but I was cold all season. I'd gladly spend $300 a season on fuel to not see my breath when I walk in the door...not having to deal with creating warmth before I get to work. I'd probably pay more, I think I'd work more too. I'm watching more videos since making this comment and it seems like it would handle a decent square footage. Maybe 2 is the way to go. Idk yet.... I live about 10 minutes from Chicago, our weather is always changing. Today the high is 43F I think but in the morning all winter it's usually between 5F-25F. I try to be working by 7am most days
@@michaelosmon feel ya there brother, I have a side by side garage that is detached and it's either blistering hot or nearly as cold as outside.. I don't use it as a studio but working on frozen rust or carpentry is ruff, the little heater I stand over, the big one takes out the chill but I have to point it away so if doesn't start a fire... I'm tempted to just start a wood fire in the coal forge or find a wood stove, but this lil thing IS interesting
Hi Excellent short! I also tried this on my workshop and pretty much mimicked what you did in your post. All the comments are solid, but if I could add abit more? I think my unit is the same manufacturer wise but a different name, so the combustion air goes in through the small tube and exits as exhaust through the steel pipe, the hot air going to the house, through the outlet, should be returned to the inlet of the heater. That’ll make a massive difference to the fuel usage because the room stat will come up to temp quicker The combustion and heating air can’t mix due to the internal heat exchanger. The sparks that wired it up went spare when he saw it was outside because (my one at least) wasn’t IP rated - so maybe a waterproof box outside to protect? My only strong feelings are towards the fuel comments pure paraffin (lamp oil) and 28sec Kero work really well, as in never fails to light, gets really hot. 35sec and any recovered oil made it run like a bag of spanners after 3 to 4 weeks without fail. The other thing i found is that the outlet pipe if split, each feed must be the same length resistance wise - loads out of the short run nothing out of the longer one, also because the outlet pipe is a small diameter I can get air flow to about 3 meters but anything longer made it over heat after about and hours running - maybe too much resistance on the fan so not getting the heat away quick enough? Persevere though, nothings perfect but it’s better (cheaper) than any of the alternatives and the tinkering is best part I reckon. The dogs a fan of it for sure, drags it’s bed in the workshop and lays right in front of the outlet.
I ordered one of these and will be putting it inside the house. I plan to buy a much longer exhaust hose because it get extremely hot. I will be cooking it up and attaching it so that the heat can radiate into the room.
make sure that exhaust is air tight and doesn't leak into your airspace, don't want to be gassing yourself. Get yourself a carbon monoxide alarm if its going to be inside the house, 20 quid might just save your life if anything went wrong :)
@@eoghanhennessy443 burning system and heating system are separate, so no odor inside house or car. Car, truck, rv have same product only diesel pumped out of main tank.
i have one i have a old drafty house and with the warm air being blown into the house all the drafts have gone too .... i only use the gas central heating for the water and showers n baths
Is your heater connected to a leisure battery with solar panels Or have you plugged it in to electric sockets with a 12v DC plug ?? I assume you cover it with something to protect it from the rain 😊... I have a diesel heater and solar panels in my van, have lived in it since the corona lockdown.. I would have it running for 10-12 hours during the winter and it stopped working after a year.. My dad bought me a new one, but i think the old one just needs a new glow plug so i held on to it.. I will buy glow plug off ebay one day and see if it works 😊
I have one in my garage and there cracking piece of kit . I reckon we all should plum one into the house incase of bad power cuts as atleast these run of 12volt car battery
@spartacus spartacus There is a glow plug to ignite the diesel and a diesel pump to draw the diesel from the tank into the boiler in measured amounts. The 12v battery is needed to power these. Some people use a transformer of some kind to convert their mains electric to a 12v supply. Many people use a battery and then trickle charge the battery, so if there is a power cut you can at least stay warm. Some also use a solar charger to charge the battery in the day and keep the battery charged.
Thats a vervor deisel parking heater.. they work great with waste oil too..only $118.00 And they run on 12volts. @40watts after initial 130watts start up cycle if my memory serves me right..
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-l06ICG0uqkU.html Here you go. Watch this. Itll explain easier than me typing a long drawn out explanation. Good luck..
I've got 3 of them but the smaller units at 8kw , how did you hook it up to a normal plug socket as its on 12v so surely the house electrics would be too much for it 🤔
Watched a video on these lastnight where a dude says with red diesel it's about 13p per HR to run on low or around 40p per hour on the highest, now I want one for the house and the workshop 🤣
Nice review 👍🏼 I've build one of those heaters in my house to keep us warm. It's a 5kW version but it seems to have power enough to keep our living room at a very comfortable temperature. At this moment it's running on setting 2 out of 6 (max) with an outside temperature of 3 degrees Celsius. Inside temperature is 20 degrees now. I believe setting 2 is about 2 kW power output. Fuel efficiency is great. On the current setting it's using 190 ml/hr. So, we use 1 litre of diesel in about 5 hours. Currently one liter of diesel costs €1,75. Heating my house with LNG costs €3 for a m3. Five hours of heating would cost me 5 m3 of LNG. So, make our calculations about this 😉
We do have kerosine (petroleum) but it's more expensive than diesel. Petroleum costs about €2,09 a liter. I've seen reviews that did mention that petroleum or kerosine gives less lubrication to the oilpump. Therefore it's wearing faster since the pumpvalve consists out of a metal on metal surface, whitout any lubrification other than the fuel that is pumped through the valve.
@@ronaldpoldervaart8711 yeah I’ve heard that too but apparently it’s just a myth, I know people that have ran 3500 hours+ on pure kero with no problems 👍🏼
@@ronaldpoldervaart8711 petroleum is not kerosene, diesel is kerosene. Home heating oil is kerosene, so if you can find an oil depot for that you can usually buy it from them in 20L drums, and it's currently less than £1 a litre where I am. It will also run on waste aviation fuel if you have an airport near y, we dump tons of the stuff for various reasons and it works fine in your home heating system. If you get heating oil from somewhere you can also buy additives for it to help with lubricity, for example a product called Exocet.
Unlikely, diesel has a flashpoint of like 60 degrees. Its outside because who wants a diesel heater sat in the living room and you have to make another hole in wall for exhaust.
There's the noise to think of that pump gets bloody annoying . Although I just purchased a silent one that has cut it down considerably. Not silent as was advertised. 😂
This can heat your house only on maximum output settings, but then costs too much. To make it reasonable to heat your house, you need additional devices to spread the heat through the house. In near future I'll show my configuration to heat up my house and make about £30-60 savings on my gas bill.
@@96tcoleman Stop bullshiting, I can hear that pump, that's on about 3.5hz You'd need it on full blast for hours to heat a standard size living room up, even then I doubt it could raise the temperature by much, you'd be better off with a log burner
I did thanks but I don’t fancy drilling any holes in my brickwork, for how little these heaters cost to run it’s not worth it and it heats my downstairs just fine as it is 👍🏼
How far could you send the pipe before it would affect the heat that comes out? To do this I need a pipe around 10 metres to send the heat to the desired room
mine burns about 1.5 ltrs a day, when im in my shed. great heater, piss poor lcd controller, blanks out if around freezing having to wrap controller in a towel to keep out the cold.
Just curious how well it works and why specifically you installed it outside? Do you have a moderate climate? How hot does it get for the size of room your heating? Been liking at those for a bit thinking I may get one. I've been wanting an eiberspacker for a long time just could never afford one. Nice!
They advertise it can heat 15 square meters, and he mentioned in another comment he installed it outdoors in case of potential exhaust fumes leaking into the house.
How did wire this buddy ? Being 12v I’m wanting one to warm the conservatory Same what you done keep the heater outside Im just trying to understand how to wire it I have one in my motorhome but it’s wired to my 12v battery
I ended up ordering a 12v adapter that was 10a couldn't find any plug in adapter over 10a so took the chance. Ended up getting an error code E-2. Got a transformer instead and it fired up with no problems.
I don't think Gretta wants us using these machines, when all we have to do is wear extra clothes, to keep warm and have 2 showers a day to wash off the sweat
great idea been talking to the mate about installing one in the house,how much do you reckon it's costing to run all day? Is that on highest setting aswell in the video,thanks in advance
@@96tcoleman sounds like you have just made up my mind then,cost of gas at the minute here in northern Ireland is shocking literally costing around £10 and we aren't even into the cold weather yet,people are gonna get it really tight this year,again thanks for the reply an have a great Xmas
@@ColossulTitan wow that’s a no brainier then ! Don’t know how much kerosene is over there, it’s around £1 a litre here so makes it even cheaper for them to run 👍🏼
hehe need big tank of fuel... very exspensive.. 10 dollars a day ... plus house system when gets 20 degree F ... little small .... good like play around , i bought a 12k btu for the basement operating when gets cold ...lots of fun
how about running exhaust in the house, thru some kind of heat exchanger and back again when it's cold.. and taking intake air from inside of the house.. i guess you can improve efficiency massively if you run 250°C hot exhaust through some old cast iron radiator in the house..
I've built a box. But left the bottom open, But got a shelf. Now I'm concerned the diesel will freeze from beneath. Close but i need more thought into it.
I do like your install very nice. But your efficiency will be very limited as the outside temperature drops. As you have to heat al the cold air to blow into your house. If you install the device indoors. You recirculate the heated air thus increasing the efficiency. In any case its absolutely needed to install a carbon monoxide alarm. Inside your house in case some gases leak out of the system during use. Thank you for sharing your installation.
The only time they produce tons of CO is when they're starting up, once they're up and running they produce barely any noxious gas, if they do they're not running right and the exhaust would stink
@@96tcoleman got mine up and running . Nice room temperature. O ly downside is the slight smell of the new unit. Hopefully that will get better. Running mine on red diesel.
@@maxv77 nice one, yeah the smells pretty normal just run it on the highest setting for a bit, it’ll soon burn off. Yeah red is a lot cheaper but I’ve switched to kerosone now, it’s only 98p a litre and burns a lot cleaner
I’ve got one on in order, The power lead from your inverter to a 240v plug, what amp fuse is in the plug? Are you going to box it off to keep the rain/ice off? Can you you move the control panel off the front and move it inside? Cheers mate.
13amp fuse in the plug buddy, I’ve got in housed in an outdoor storage box now but the inverter is inside. Yes you can easily move the control panel it just unclips off the front, hope this helps 👍🏼
