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Chinese & Korean Clans of Japan (And the latest DNA analysis of Kofun Period Japan) 

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According to ancient Japanese records, there were Chinese and Korean nobles who came to Japan to form their own clans. But did they really exist? In this video, I'll re-examine this claim with the latest DNA analysis result.
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0:29 Foreign Clans of Japan
3:42 Are the Records Reliable?
6:00 Latest DNA Analysis
7:43 Horse Rider Conquest Theory
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@businessandwarfare
@businessandwarfare 2 года назад
''This time I'm gonna talk about something really interesting'' I mean, you usually talk about really interesting things lol.
@cosmoray9750
@cosmoray9750 2 года назад
Mountains everywhere. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-LeqATONm-L8.html
@originalxbox9924
@originalxbox9924 2 года назад
I've seen many of your videos, your pronunciation of Mandarin Chinese, Korean, and Japanese is spot on. It's like you're fluent in all 3 languages, that's highly impressive. I am half Chinese, half Korean myself, and I enjoy all of your content and videos, it's highly fun and educational. Chinese, Korean, and Japanese should be all brothers and sisters with love & respect. As a matter of fact I consider all Asians to be my brothers & sisters including Vietnamese, Cambodian, Thai, Hmong, Laos, Filipino, etc. All Asians, east Asians and southeast Asians come together with love & unity (that's the goal, that's the endgame)
@flyingzone356
@flyingzone356 2 года назад
Me too, I find the accent of the narrator extremely intriguing, especially because his pronunciation of Mandarin Chinese, Korean, and Japanese is so accurate. Interestingly, he "mispronounces" English words occasionally.
@steventan385
@steventan385 2 года назад
Where do u live?
@toomyng9015
@toomyng9015 2 года назад
I am like you of mixed east Asian parents Years ago I had dated Chinese, Korean, and Japanese women and I enjoy and had fun with all of them. They all treated me as one of their own family members. I hate to see on youtube or other sociall media why japanese hate Chinese, or Koreans videos or Asian women dont date Asian men,Etc. What a smear champaign against us east asians and its mostly a myth majority of the time.
@johnfeng4374
@johnfeng4374 2 года назад
I am Chinese. Mostly agree. Chinese, Korean and Japanese all look like the same from appearance (Westerners usually can't tell those 3 kinds of people)! Our DNAs may be very close.
@peace5655
@peace5655 2 года назад
Peace to the world among all continents all people. Joy to the world !
@mikemooney9124
@mikemooney9124 2 года назад
Really interesting and from the comments section there’s big interest in this topic. Many thanks 🙏
@Spartan265
@Spartan265 2 года назад
So glad I came across your channel a few months ago. I love all history but it's harder to find stuff about the eastern world since the west focuses more on Rome etc. I love the Three Kingdoms era the most. It's just so fascinating.
@fannyalbi9040
@fannyalbi9040 2 года назад
spring autumn period then warring period are much interesting to know and read. Well, thinkers (hundreds schools of thought) were born during that time, then strategies / ideologies were applied for the wars!
@CyclesandThings
@CyclesandThings 2 года назад
Thank you for covering these awesome little things that many people do not know about. I love this channel.
@robertcurrie1160
@robertcurrie1160 2 года назад
I always appreciate the Subtitles & Time stamps.... 👍 ✌️ 💯
@oneviwatara9384
@oneviwatara9384 2 года назад
Hahaha
@sinoroman
@sinoroman 2 года назад
excellent video as always
@jack-dn2uk
@jack-dn2uk 2 года назад
Thanks you and continue the good work
@Z020852
@Z020852 2 года назад
One bit about the Horse Rider Theory is that if the sudden appearance of horse artifacts indicates an invader, we actually have an example for that: the Philippines.
@kuyaroyroy3635
@kuyaroyroy3635 2 года назад
True..
@Z020852
@Z020852 2 года назад
​@Kalobeast 55 No academic theories I'm aware of because this isn' exactly a novel theory, ie, that there were very, very, very few horses or even horse-related artifacts from before Spanish colonization, ie horses and horse toys bought from Chinese merchants are even rarer then than people buying cars with a prancing horse on the hood from Italians today. Not that the Spanish rode around the country conquering it, they went around in boats and their authority crept inland (unlike how US cavalry made it to the mountains in Central Luzon island, which is how a suburban vacation town was developed there for the US and Philippine governments), but King Philip lived up to his name* as he maintained a stable of fine horses (contrary to what one may think if thinking of 14th C Frenchmen, no, these are not warhorses; they're trotting, pretty-maned show horses, which in dog terms is like comparing a USMC bomb dog to a poodle). *Philos (love) + hippos (horses) >> Philippos (ie Philip; Macedon or Spain, up to you) >> Philippines
@kaptenlemper
@kaptenlemper 7 месяцев назад
@j2ll1 the spaniards, probably
@WildBillCox13
@WildBillCox13 2 года назад
Good content. Liked.
@ekmalsukarno2302
@ekmalsukarno2302 2 года назад
Cool History Bros, are you gonna make a video on Baiyue and Nanyue anytime in the future? Thank you very much.
@Gabriel-l
@Gabriel-l 2 года назад
Yes this
@CoolHistoryBros
@CoolHistoryBros 2 года назад
What do you want to know about? I can put it in my pipeline.
@ekmalsukarno2302
@ekmalsukarno2302 2 года назад
@@CoolHistoryBros Basically the entire history of these aforementioned civilisations.
@CoolHistoryBros
@CoolHistoryBros 2 года назад
Well, there isn't much info about the "Baiyue" (Hundred Yues). The definition also shifts through time too. So I guess I can talk about what little is known and how perception change over time.
@ekmalsukarno2302
@ekmalsukarno2302 2 года назад
@@CoolHistoryBros Sure, you can mention that, as well as the Nanyue. If possible, you can also mention the Nanman (southern barbarians) who lived in what is now southern China until they became Sinicised.
@GKS225
@GKS225 2 года назад
Thanks for covering this topic! I was doing my own research and found out this too. Apparently it wasn't a well know topic, at least in the English speaking realm.
@stephanieyee9784
@stephanieyee9784 2 года назад
I'm an Australian of mixed Chinese and European ancestry. I've known that ancient Chinese migrated to Japan for at least 40 years. I'd heard somewhere that a large % of Japanese people are descended from Chinese. Of course it makes sense that Korean people would also have migrated to and traded with Japanese and Chinese people. That area is in many ways similar in geopolitical and trading histories as Britain with Denmark, the Netherlands etc. A constant flow back and forth of political, religious, cultural, technological ideas, goods, DNA, etc.
@lerneanlion
@lerneanlion 2 года назад
I cannot believe that Cool History Bros did not participate in the Project: Imperial China! Also, will you do a video about those cultivation novels/manhua eventually?
@CoolHistoryBros
@CoolHistoryBros 2 года назад
I'm a lot more familiar with the classic wuxias, but I can sort of look into the new ones.
@lerneanlion
@lerneanlion 2 года назад
@@CoolHistoryBros Well, I merely wanted to know your thought about why the protagonists in these stories have to be a bunch of arrogant punks with no manners. That's all. Heck, some of them even... well... did things to the women in their harems without their consents. If you've read Against The Gods and have read the part when Yun Che was alone with Chu Yuanchan, who was dying because of poison in her system at the time, you will know what I mean.
@CoolHistoryBros
@CoolHistoryBros 2 года назад
I think this is one of those things classified as "self-pleasure" web-novels. To be honest, a lot of those new cultivation novels are part of the Japanese Isekai Web novel culture. It became popular in Taiwan after Japan and the Mainland followed suit. I will talk about this in my history of wuxia fiction video.
@lerneanlion
@lerneanlion 2 года назад
@@CoolHistoryBros Thank you for your time! And when that video appeared, I will be there to watch it as soon as possible!
@user-jj6mx3tc1g
@user-jj6mx3tc1g 2 года назад
@@CoolHistoryBros Chinese cultivation novels began in the Han Dynasty, and after Taoism became religious, they merged with local myths to form the cultivation culture.
@RomelJonesromesgtx
@RomelJonesromesgtx 2 года назад
I've learned so much thanks
@oneviwatara9384
@oneviwatara9384 2 года назад
Not really.
@TSE-One
@TSE-One 2 года назад
Wow excellent video bro
@OrbitalAstronaut
@OrbitalAstronaut 2 года назад
I never knew these clans existed. I’ve learned so much.
@ismailahmed8435
@ismailahmed8435 2 года назад
I'm always looking forward to your videos man. Thanks✌✌
@InfamousAustinT0
@InfamousAustinT0 2 года назад
Thank you for all the content you provide us
@Jake-dh9qk
@Jake-dh9qk 2 года назад
Can you do a video comparing Tang dynasty Armor/military with Japanese military/armor of the same period? I always find them to share alot of similarities.
@Wvk5zc
@Wvk5zc 2 года назад
I second this!
@jonaspete
@jonaspete Год назад
Japan at that time imported alot of weapons from Tang .
@sanneoi6323
@sanneoi6323 Год назад
Yes, that would be interesting.
@JIRO-FX3150
@JIRO-FX3150 5 месяцев назад
@@jonaspete We do not import weapons. Iron was mined in the southern part of the Korean Peninsula and processed in Japan to make weapons. The culture of tea and cooking was introduced from the Tang Dynasty. Kanji and Buddhism are not cultures that were introduced from China, but were brought with them when the Japanese came to Japan, so they are not part of Chinese culture.
@CARL_093
@CARL_093 2 года назад
good timing bro as one of the clans like sa teak or sa clan as i recall bec of the annexation of silla on baekje
@ferrarim5p75
@ferrarim5p75 2 года назад
Cool History Bros, can you cover the major battles in ancient China, those not covered by the other RU-vid Channels? Those usually covered are those during the Three Kingdoms period.
@andreascovano7742
@andreascovano7742 2 года назад
Cool History Bros, whats next on your awesome roadmap? Also this video is gonna provoke an interesting comment section to say the least
@CoolHistoryBros
@CoolHistoryBros 2 года назад
Well, the next. video will be about the predynastic. mythical rulers of China. Then I will do a few videos explaining Confucianism and end the year with lighter topics like Avatar, and the history of Wuxia and Ninja fiction.
@andreascovano7742
@andreascovano7742 2 года назад
@@CoolHistoryBros NICE
@dirtiestharry6551
@dirtiestharry6551 2 года назад
@@CoolHistoryBros >few videos explaining Confucianism Thanks god you are doing this. Recently Confucianism has been getting a lot of misinformed shit just because it's from China. Those people emphasize stuff like 夫爲婦綱, 父爲子綱, 夫婦有別 and distort alot of their meaning to fit it into western perception of "savage" culture mold.
@victorsanchez5336
@victorsanchez5336 2 года назад
@@CoolHistoryBros Question. How related is the Japanese Imperial Clan to the Royal House of the Baekje Kingdom of Korea.
@auburntiger6829
@auburntiger6829 2 года назад
@@CoolHistoryBros Another great topic following your explanation of Confucianism would be on *whether Confucianism is a religion,* but I guess "what is a religion?" is also another big topic in itself because there are different definitions and ways of classification.
@truthbtold2910
@truthbtold2910 2 года назад
This IS very cool history Bros. I'm currently working on a book, regarding the Korean War. However, currently I'm researching the prehistory of the 3 kingdoms. Them moving to the 1800s, and 'gunboat' politics. Thanks soooooo much.
@barbiebarbie1813
@barbiebarbie1813 2 года назад
Goguryeo is a local regime established by the northern Chinese. And Baiji, Silla, Goryeo (It is ancient Chinese territory and jurisdiction). The founder and the royal noble members of the royal family are Chinese. They are wearing Han officials' clothing and using Chinese characters. Civilians and slaves are indigenous Koreans at the southern end of the peninsula. In ancient , Koreans were called "white clothes nation". Their traditional clothes were pure white and no patterns (because no dyes and dyeing technology), and adult women's clothing exposed nipples (the Korean think of being glorious and beautiful). Korean women have always used their heads to move anything (like African indigenous people). The ancient Koreans have always insisted on wearing white clothes (Even the Chinese ruler on the peninsula prohibits them from wearing white clothes. Provide them with dyeing technology). But Koreans think that they insist on wearing white clothes and adult women to show their nipples. It is the most obvious traditional Korean culture in their national costumes. This can clearly determine the identity of the Chinese and Koreans. Contrary to the traditional culture of Korean people. When the traditional Chinese culture represents the funeral ceremony of the family, it will only wear pure white clothes without patterns. Pure white clothes without patterns in ancient China were taboos. Representing family members of the family died.
@barbiebarbie1813
@barbiebarbie1813 2 года назад
1910. Japan has swallowed South Korea. The Japanese believe that some of the low -level Korean traditional culture and primitive (women expose their nipples and transport things on their heads) are very primitive and backward. The Japanese banned Korean women from exposing the nipples (the traditional Korean costume). The Korean people strongly resisted. South Koreans believe that this is a traditional culture of South Korea. They insist on retention. In the Korean capital city. As long as the Japanese see those Korean women who show their nipples, they will give them penalties and slaps. After that, the Korean capital city gradually reduces Korean women's nipples. They cover the nipples with a piece of cloth. (But in the place where there are fewer Japanese soldiers. Korean women still maintain the traditional culture that exposes nipples). Until 1950, Westerners were still taking photos in South Korea. A photo of Korean women showing nipples on the street (traditional Korean clothing). In 1970, this kind of Korean traditional culture disappeared completely.
@carolmoss8632
@carolmoss8632 2 года назад
This helps me understand my DNA taken a few months ago. Couldn't understand how I had Han DNA both Morth and South. Thanks for posting.
@missplainjane3905
@missplainjane3905 Год назад
Differs too
@alouie008
@alouie008 2 года назад
I like to know about the different dialects spoken for each dynasty / period
@jvlog5349
@jvlog5349 2 года назад
What a cool video. Your video make me feel better. I’m making videos about shrine and temple with Japanese and English subtitles. Thank your uploading your videos
@sampuatisamuel9785
@sampuatisamuel9785 2 года назад
Very interesting
@fennec812
@fennec812 2 года назад
MA in this period finally paying off.. Really nothing to add except that the Hata are probably from Silla (Korea) or one of the bordering nations. We know this mostly from where they began to settle and a few of the traditions they brought with them. They ended up being big movers and shakers in the religious sphere so a lot of “traditional” Japanese deities are probably from mainland shamanism… which is ironic considering how these same deities were painted as so authentically Japanese during the WWII era. I don’t have the exact dates on me, but there was also a period in early Heian where about a third of the court itself was made up of foreign clans which is sort of mind-boggling. Of course, lines eventually blurred and cultures mixed. Even so, it is a testament to just how much immigration was happening and really never completely stopped until much later in Japanese history.
@tsukuyomi2522
@tsukuyomi2522 2 года назад
there are also several clans of craftsmen from korea and china e.g. pottery , even buddhist monks and or scholars who have settled in Japan and set up families of their own.
@user-cr3pn7rk2v
@user-cr3pn7rk2v 2 года назад
Yeah but those were a small ruling class. Kind of like the Normans in England
@alvinleong269
@alvinleong269 2 года назад
Are there Chinese ancestry among the ninja clans?
@Hansi_Hinterseer
@Hansi_Hinterseer 2 года назад
@@alvinleong269 Yes they are called Kung Fu ninja clan..
@user-rp4qc7yh9g
@user-rp4qc7yh9g Год назад
Chinese blood is more complex. Search for vengo Gao. Chinese people in Shandong are more beautiful and tall than Japanese and Korean people
@Gabriel-l
@Gabriel-l 2 года назад
Thats pretty cool. I wonder how these groups of people looked like before the genetic merger. Would be pretty cool to see the evolutionary change across the ages.
@daithiocinnsealach1982
@daithiocinnsealach1982 2 года назад
Probably more African and as we moved further north our skin lightened in reaction to the colder climate. Those with lighter skin absorbed more sunlight perhaps.
@Mariuslorca
@Mariuslorca 2 года назад
@@daithiocinnsealach1982 african? Nah, facial structure arent african at all, could facial structure change as they go north? Skin color ,sure
@lyhthegreat
@lyhthegreat 2 года назад
@@Mariuslorca it could if given enough time maybe, afterall all humans were descendants of apes...do we look like apes now? nope..
@Mariuslorca
@Mariuslorca 2 года назад
@@lyhthegreat if thats the case, you think africans today looks the same as 6 millions ago?
@MrAapasuo
@MrAapasuo 2 года назад
@jin gu I mean it would be odd if we didnt come from africa as from what I at least was lead to believe is that modern humans developed in Africa, like other human ancestors so technically any group of humans originates from there far enough back
@sanneoi6323
@sanneoi6323 10 месяцев назад
We gonna talk about the Emishi? You should totally do a video on that.
@yoma2k279
@yoma2k279 5 месяцев назад
帰化人, The definition that you present in your might had been accurate in the past but in current Japanese means: 自分から願い出て、自国の国籍を捨て、他国の国籍を得て、他国民となること。  「―人」 2. 渡来した動植物が、その土地になじんで、自生・繁殖するようになること。 Which that's why when this term is translated into English is the term naturalization is the most accepted term. To be annoyingly accurate when got my Japanese citizenship I do not remember any document with the term 「願い書」 but the terminology used is 申請する which means: (国や公共団体の機関に)許可・認可等を求めること。 And is usually translated as submitting an application. Really interesting video by the way.
@nakjiducbabmasiser7170
@nakjiducbabmasiser7170 2 года назад
Finally I can see interesting comments
@catherinebutler4819
@catherinebutler4819 2 года назад
I’m reading Eili Oguma on the genealogy of Japan’s self-images, so this video came at a perfect time!
@earlysda
@earlysda 2 года назад
What is "Japan’s self-images"?
@catherinebutler4819
@catherinebutler4819 2 года назад
@@earlysda That's a big question, but the focus is on whether, when and why Japanese people have conceived of themselves as a homogeneous, ethnically and culturally 'separate' race (an idea the book claims to be of surprisingly late origin) versus the idea of Japan as ethnically and culturally diverse, including various immigrant groups from Korea and China, as well as (during the time of the empire) Korea and parts of China itself. Of course, it's difficult to maintain the image of yourself as a sequestered island people and as a sprawling multi-ethnic empire at the same time - although the British gave it a good go - and it's interesting to me (especially as a Brit) to see some familiar arguments and contradictions played out in the very different context of east Asia.
@menespferaani3301
@menespferaani3301 2 года назад
Maybe one of your next videos could talk about ancient trade between East Africa (Axum Empire) and Asia.
@CoolHistoryBros
@CoolHistoryBros 2 года назад
Interesting. I will look into it.
@Werner4voss
@Werner4voss 2 года назад
To my knowledge, the horserider theory is largely abandoned in mainstream studies
@INFP-T50
@INFP-T50 2 года назад
There was neither China nor South Korea in ancient times. Mainland China, which lived in ancient times, is a different ethnic group.
@hungchoonghow5857
@hungchoonghow5857 2 года назад
When Netflix was casting extras for their TV show "Marco Polo" in Malaysia and it had Kublai Khan in it, i was casted as a Tang Dynasty person even though I was a rather dark skinned Chinese person. Got me thinking about genetic admixture.. About Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, Mongolians, South East Asians, its all over the place...
@SeanHiruki
@SeanHiruki 2 года назад
I still miss that show
@mfcmotivasyon450
@mfcmotivasyon450 2 года назад
Hello dear siri, is it possible for you to make a video about supernatural practices and beliefs shaped the general characteristic features of east aisan people such as role of divination in today's society? I will appreciate for your diligent effort to illuminate this vague subject, thank you.
@theautumnmoon
@theautumnmoon 10 месяцев назад
Does this include the Ryukyu people? I always thought the history and overall genetic makeup in this region was somewhat different from greater Japan.
@bostonking7221
@bostonking7221 2 года назад
Your English Translation is wrong. Hata Clan section: Prince from the Baekje Kingdom. Not Beijing. I asked Kyoto Buddhist monk Hata Tribe origin. The Buddhist monk said it is well documented that Hata and Aya clan origin are Korean Kingdom Baekje aka the Kudara Kingdom. The clan origin has nothing to do with China.
@maximusd26
@maximusd26 2 года назад
hello there, love your content ! had a question, is the mandate of Heaven lost or does the CCP claim it ? or maybe Taiwan ?
@CoolHistoryBros
@CoolHistoryBros 2 года назад
It's become irrelevant since the fall of the Qing dynasty and neither side claim it. But it is fun to speculate about it in videos and pop culture.
@maximusd26
@maximusd26 2 года назад
@@CoolHistoryBros maybe it's my time to claim it then XD, thanks for the answer and keep up the good work ! 👍
@haruzanfuucha
@haruzanfuucha 2 года назад
Only non-Chinese people care or think about the Mandate of Heaven.
@maximusd26
@maximusd26 2 года назад
@@haruzanfuucha because that's long gone like chivalry is for us in Europe, but we can't know without asking
@audiofreq
@audiofreq 4 месяца назад
Interesting!
@KhoirulAnam-md5fs
@KhoirulAnam-md5fs 16 дней назад
It is true that during the Kofun period Chinese and Korean culture spread to Japan through the arrival of immigrants. There is a Korean company from Baekje founded by Kim Myeong Lee named Go Tzun who collaborated with the famous architect from Shicuan, namely Wang Jingzhong, to build a temple and Buddha statue in Nara. Wang Jinzhong was a famous architect from China during the Tang Dynasty with his expertise in bringing Tang characteristics to the design. and the building style in Nara. In the 8th century AD, the famous Tang Dynasty monk named Jianzhen went to Japan from Beijing via Liaoning and the Korean Peninsula. Jianzhen also introduced the chinesse character and traditions and procedures for drinking tea in Japan
@seanpoore2428
@seanpoore2428 2 года назад
You're a good sport for even entertaining the "lost tribe of Israel" theory, but you gave it about as much attention as it deserved I think 🤣 quick mention 'probably not true,' moving on! Edit: somehow I didn't expect this to turn into the history channel forum but Silly Me I guess! 🤣
@order_truth_involvement6135
@order_truth_involvement6135 2 года назад
Not just that, but the hexagram was not a symbol of judaism at the time of this migration. And by goodness sake the lost tribes of israel were lost a looooong time ago before these migrations, furthermore we can't conspire anything because the tribes were not literally lost, they ceased to exist and the members integrated into other local cultures within Mesopotamia.
@jonathanwilliams1065
@jonathanwilliams1065 2 года назад
@@order_truth_involvement6135 Israel is rather far away so maybe the migration just took that long Though yeah it’s probably just a coincidence
@order_truth_involvement6135
@order_truth_involvement6135 2 года назад
@@jonathanwilliams1065 There's absolutely no evidence to even assume this was a migration from Palestine, the name of the territory as the actual ancient Israelites called it.
@plutone220696
@plutone220696 2 года назад
@@order_truth_involvement6135 Yea it's like saying Buddhists are Nazi related for the swastika
@jonathanwilliams1065
@jonathanwilliams1065 2 года назад
@@order_truth_involvement6135 first off the ancient Israelites called the land Israel or Canaan, with the southern part being known as Judah, and in later years most of it became known as Judea The Name “Palestine” didnt exist until AD 135, when the Romans renamed Judea after the Jews ancient enemies, the philistines
@Mandragara
@Mandragara 2 года назад
I find it really interesting how we don't really know our origins if you go back far enough. It means we don't know how we got here as a society, our origins fade into the mist in the same was as an individuals history fades when they consider their childhood.
@dearcoolz
@dearcoolz 2 года назад
To the creator did you copy all these contents from Quora? Because I was the one who posted this research even the images were from my post
@CoolHistoryBros
@CoolHistoryBros 2 года назад
Interesting. I don't think I have ever seen your quora post. I saw the news article on the research on twitter a while ago and just went down the rabbit hole.
@dearcoolz
@dearcoolz 2 года назад
@@CoolHistoryBros gotcha
@haruzanfuucha
@haruzanfuucha 2 года назад
You say all this as if you don’t copy other people’s content.
@kitschyoyo78
@kitschyoyo78 29 дней назад
Korea, China and Japan collaborative history is very complicated and interesting.
@user-uk8nf8jv6u
@user-uk8nf8jv6u 2 года назад
Thank you for a interesting video! Personally, I think that rather than a direct mixture of the stable zone- Chinese, Japanese, Korean - the archaeological evidence suggests a buffer zone in the middle, with genetic influences from each side. im studying ancient east asian history from language, and archaeological things. an interesting fact is that the southern part of the Korean peninsula was partly a Jomon cultural area, so the "Yayoi" type people probably progress there already mixed, and expand from the Kitakyushu - southern Korean cultural area over a period of several thousand years. in addition, some basic vocabulary such as place names are common to ancient Japanese, and in later era the Japanese style of Kofun also exists in the Korean peninsula, so maybe theres still no strict border of activity between korean race and japanese race in kofun era. i think thats why "new" kofun people in the video is more connected to the chinese. Research into the language of the Kofun period suggests that the Okinawan language differentiated itself from the Japanese language during the Kofun period. It would be interesting to see more research from different perspectives, as in the past it has been common to force the relationship between conqueror and conquered, or to seek the origins of the native peoples through political ideology.
@ytn00b3
@ytn00b3 2 года назад
Actually there were no Chinese, the latest study revealed this.
@FF-ky3mp
@FF-ky3mp 2 года назад
@@ytn00b3 Actually, Chinese are your father, the latest and forever yDNA O-M122 revealed this.
@oneviwatara9384
@oneviwatara9384 2 года назад
@@FF-ky3mp O-M122 belong to ethnic Di-Qiang people they're the ancestors of the northern Han Chinese from the central plains region they speak Sinto-Tibetan language admixed with Tibeto-Burman, Mongolian, northern related people, Tai-Kadai people. O1a and O2a belong to Tai-Kadai peoples ethnic Lao peoples the largest ethnic groups of peoples in the world originated from Altai mountain, Mongolia over thousands of years ago they were the original founders of the ancient China formerly known as Qin, Qin is a Lao name surname given for China and Chinese people pronounced Gin or Jin to these days Lao people they still called China and Chinese people Jin and modern China, China is a Lao name surname pronounced Chee-Na not Child-Na they also founded Hainan island, Taiwan, Thailand, Korea, Japan, Northeast India, Burma, Vietnam, Cambodia, Malaysia, Indonesia, Singapore, Philippines, and Hawaii there are also millions of ethnic Lao people living in Eastern part of central Asia countries particularly in Uzbekistan they came from Southern China during a Tang dynasty their main Y-chromosome belong to O1b. The video are very misleading he should have said the Chinese samples that they compared to the Japanese samples were from Beijing Han, Beijing Han are ethnic Lao people their main Y-chromosome belong O1a not O3 they do mixed with northern Han from central plains region though but they're not ethnic Di-Qiang people they also speak different language from the yellow River basin people people (Sino-Tibetan speaking people). Yayoi main Y-chromosome belong to O1a and O2b not O3 they're the majority of the Japanese population not minority. Yayoi people and Kofun people are ethnic Lao people not ethnic Di-Qiang people. Japanese populations are mostly ethnic Lao people the rest are Yellow River basin people (ethnic Di-Qiang people), Jomon, Ainu, northern related people... Lao Sichuan/Sichuanese, NanPing Lao, Lao Yunnan/Yunnan Han, Lao Shanghai/Shanghainese, Lao Beijing/Beijing Han, Jining Han, Mulao, Gelao, Rau, Zhuang, Yue/Baiyue, Daic, Dai, Tai, Thai, Kradai, Tai-Kadai peoples are ethnic Lao peoples. Laos are the ancestral homeland of East Asian, MSEA, and ISEA peoples according to 23 and Me, and many Universities around the world.
@jackjackyphantom8854
@jackjackyphantom8854 2 года назад
@@FF-ky3mp The video didn't mention about haplogroup, it's not detailed enough. Chinese and Japanese are vastly different in term of Y-haplogroup distribution. Yayoi were O-M176 + O-M122, and modern Japanese are mostly D1b + O-M176 + O-M122 -- but Han people are mostly O-M122, and O-M176 is almost absent from them. On a note, O-M122 is pretty prevalent across Asia, it's not unique to Han people. Although Japanese and Northern Chinese have similar mtDNA, and I think that's where the similarities mostly came from.
@user-rp4qc7yh9g
@user-rp4qc7yh9g Год назад
The Chinese in the north are diverse. Shandong is not rich, but it is the highest in the whole East Asia. If you exclude some mixed blood, the average height can be compared with northern Europe!
@navigator5426
@navigator5426 2 года назад
It's always interesting how Genetic Studies and Archaeology always create more questions about our past. I also find it interesting and a bit disturbing that the records from the 800's and 700 's Bce does not mention The Ainu at all. This could indicate that the part of Japan in question was occupied by migrants from the Continent and other Islands nearby and the Ainu were either displaced or absorbed into the ' Official ' Japanese Culture and people before 850 bce. Considering the region of Japan that the Ainu inhabit today and the fact that fishing in a part of Ainu Culture even today, I find it unlikely that the Ainu were not present in the parts of Japan mentioned in this video. If Ainu artifacts have been discovered in the parts of Japan featured in the video. Could they have listed under the catergory of ' Those who submitted '. and not called Ainu at the time ?. That does lend some credence to the theory of invaders riding horses especialy if there are no remains of horses found prior to that period in Japan. Could the Ainu be a victim of colonization that occured in in Japan as early as 900 bce ?. I think it would be ' Cool ' if someone discovered a diffinitive answer to that question. It might even get them the admiration of the Ainu people and that wouldn't be a bad thing to have.
@user-uk8nf8jv6u
@user-uk8nf8jv6u 2 года назад
nowday "Ainu" are a group of people who have retained their Jomon culture (with some effect of Yayoi and Kofun culture and language), but who were inspired by the Okhotsk culture. Thinking the "Ainu" before the Kofun period same as modern Ainu is itself a little outdated. It is also a decades-old hypothesis that the Yayoi occupied Japan, displacing the Jomon, and that the Jomon who were driven to Okinawa and Hokkaido became the Ainu/Okinawans.
@robertskrzynski2768
@robertskrzynski2768 2 года назад
@@user-uk8nf8jv6u The first European to study the Ainu was Josef Piłsudski's brother Bronisław Piłsudski who married an Ainu and according to the great font of knowledge Wikipedia Piłsudski's descendants currently live in Japan.
@SomasAcademy
@SomasAcademy 2 года назад
I took a History of Asian Civ course in college a few years ago, and the professor taught us the Horse Rider Thesis without ever mentioning that it was controversial. I was so mad when I googled it for more information and found out how far from settled it was. Not nearly as mad as I was when that same professor taught us that the Altaic Language Family was real, though...
@anasevi9456
@anasevi9456 2 года назад
welcome to the world of post-uni. Honestly even if they were migrants from the yellow river region, or southern korea; if they could afford the journey chances are they brought horses. There is this black and white attitude towards horses in east asian history, not everyone south of mongolia with a horse was some cashed up noble on a chariot.
@joernihlenburg2484
@joernihlenburg2484 2 года назад
@@anasevi9456 One interesting aspect (which is rarely mentioned) is the lack of composite bows in ancient Japan whereas your typical horse rider is almost unthinkable without it... instead Japanese archers were using those clumsy longbows...
@SomasAcademy
@SomasAcademy 2 года назад
@@anasevi9456 The issue with the Horse Rider Thesis isn't really whether or not there were people bringing horses to Japan, it's more an issue of whether they came gradually or in one big migration - the Horse Rider Thesis proposes the latter, while the former is more firmly supported by most evidence.
@Innomenatus
@Innomenatus 2 года назад
@@SomasAcademy However, it is interesting to note that the Horserider theory can attest to the large migration of "Northern Han" peoples in this time period, as it corresponds to the conquest of the Chinese Commanderies of Xuantu, Daifang, and Lelang by Goguryeo, Formation of the "Three Kingdoms of Korea", reigns of Ojin and Jingu, and the start of Baekje's ties with Japan. It also occurs during the Sixteen Kingdoms period as well. Interestingly, Geunchogo of Baekje was called General Stabilizing the East and the Administrator-General of Lelang, possibly indicating some kind of continuity or relationship with Lelang.
@corner16
@corner16 2 года назад
As a Finn studyin philology I feel deeply offended by the Altaic language family theory lol
@Trubripes
@Trubripes 2 года назад
The error bars are half the size of some segment on the Admixture chart. This isn't good. More data is required.
@mykitwigger
@mykitwigger 2 года назад
Where do the Ainu of Hokkaido fit in? It is interesting to see where their DNA originated.
@nikkosr888
@nikkosr888 2 года назад
In my opinion, Ainu are more a Russian than a Chinese or Korean decent.
@jackjackyphantom8854
@jackjackyphantom8854 2 года назад
@@nikkosr888 Ainu have haplogroup D which is prevalent in Yamato, Ryukyuan, Tibeto-burman speaking populations and Andaman. Russian have haplogroup R which is closer to Europeans. Ainu and Russian are not genetically related.
@williamg102
@williamg102 2 года назад
He mentioned Jomon. Ainu and Ryukyuan are Jomon people.
@matthewct8167
@matthewct8167 2 года назад
It would be interesting to get your take on the emishi
@dimitriradoux
@dimitriradoux 7 месяцев назад
It is very clear that since the Kofun period the entire societal template in Japan until the restoration period is the steppe culture template. From the class system, honour, clan/khan structure, war style, horse culture, martial arts, religion … 🤷‍♂️
@sardunai952
@sardunai952 2 года назад
What makes me skeptical is the fact that the dual-origin model was maintained for decades, yet this study wants us to believe that a whopping 60-70% of Japanese genome is closer to Yellow River DNA than to Yayoi DNA, and that the Japanese still somehow kept their distinct language.
@haruzanfuucha
@haruzanfuucha 2 года назад
We've actually known for ages that there was a third migration to Japan based on archaeological evidence but there were no viable Kofun samples to perform a genetic analysis on until recently. The modern Japanese actually do show a strong affinity to ancient Amur River AND Yellow River samples. If the Yayoi are an Amur River people then it is logical to conclude that the Kofun are a Yellow River people. I do think 71% is too high of an estimate, but one of the researchers who worked on the study did mention that a lower estimate is 40%. It is possible that the Japonic languages were of Jomon period origin rather than Yayoi since the Jomon people were actually a lot more genetically heterogenous than previously assumed but genetics and linguistics don't always go hand-in-hand. A large introgression of Han-related ancestry into a population but not changing the language wouldn't be new because the same thing happened in Vietnam. Heck, the Vietnamese were genetically overwhelmed by Taic speakers to the point where they are now closer related Dai people than the Khmer or Mlabri yet they continue to speak an Austroasiatic language today.
@missplainjane3905
@missplainjane3905 Год назад
@@haruzanfuucha Differs too
@oneviwatara9384
@oneviwatara9384 Год назад
@@haruzanfuucha There's no such thing as ethnic Vietnamese though hence Vietnamese are ethnic Lao people admixed with mostly ethnic Di-Qiang people (O3 origin). O1 and O2 belong to ethnic Lao peoples the largest ethnic groups of peoples in the world whereas the Di-Qiang people are actually ethnic minority of China. The Liangzhu culture was extremely influential and its sphere of influence reached as far north as Shanxi and as far south as Guangdong. The primary Liangzhu site was perhaps among the oldest Neolithic sites in East Asia that would be considered a state society. The type site at Liangzhu was discovered in Yuhang County, Zhejiang and initially excavated by Shi Xingeng in 1936. A 2007 analysis of the DNA recovered from human remains shows high frequencies of Haplogroup O1 in Liangzhu culture linking this culture to modern Austronesian and Tai-Kadai populations. We identified Mogou to be the earliest ~4000 yr. BP Di-Qiang population, and genetically related to Taojiazhai in sharing up to 100% paternal (O3a) and ~60% maternal (D4, M10, F, Z) haplogroups. Among the alternative models considered, simulations demonstrated that Mogou and Hengbei once contributed genes into the early Northern Han. Thus, Mogou is also similar with the Northern Han in sharing up to ~33% paternal (O3a) and ~70% maternal (D, A, F, M10) haplogroups. laos are the ancestral homeland of east asia, mainland southeast asia and island southeast asia according to multiple sources around the world. Lao Sichuan or Lao Sze Sichuan, Sichuanese, Nanping Lao people, Lao Yunnan, Lao Shanghai/Shanghainese, Lao Beijing/Beijingese, Mulao, Gelao, Gelong, Bouyei, Li, Hlai, Zhuang, Rau, Daic, Dai, Tai, Thai, Kradai, Tai-Kadai, Yue, Baiyue, Yayoi people, are ethnic Lao peoples formerly Ai Lao peoples also spelled Liao peoples the largest ethnic groups of peoples in the world originated from Altai mountain, Mongolia over thousands of years ago. China, Hainan Island, Taiwan, Thailand, Korea, Japan, Northeastern India, Burma, Vietnam, Cambodia, Malaysia, Indonesia, Singapore, Philippines and Hawaii, are actually founded by ethnic Lao peoples. DNA research has shown that Sichuanese people are closely genetically related to the Daic (Dai Chinese). Most of central Sichuan was inhabited by the Dai people who formed the serfs class, accounting for the vast majority of the population. Han Chinese in Zhejiang and Shanghai have the highest concentration of Kra-Dai types of Y haplotypes among all the Han populations in China, suggesting a possible expansion of Kra-Dai peoples from southern China to Zhejiang via Jiangxi. Hubei Han show significant evidence of genetic admixture deriving about 63% of ancestry from Tai-Kadai or Austronesian-speaking southern indigenous groups and 37% from Tungusic or Mongolic related northern populations. Conclusions: The formation of Han Chinese has involved extensive admixture with Tai-Kadai or Austronesian-speaking populations in the south and Tungusic or Mongolic speaking populations in the north. Taiwanese people are 80% southern Han Chinese (sharing ancestors with persons in Guangdong, Guangxi, Fujian, Hong Kong, Macau, and Hainan). The genetic distinction between northern and southern Han Chinese has been recognized. again, the populations from east asia were derived from the same lineage. in both phylogenies with different loci and populations, populations from east asia always derived from a single lineage, indicating the single origin of those populations.
@user-hn4qr8ty6f
@user-hn4qr8ty6f Год назад
@@haruzanfuucha There is a record that Goguryeo, Silla, Baekje, and Balhae paid tribute to Japan (the Yamato court). The power relations at that time were also Sui-Tang Dynasty (Mongolia) >>> Yamato > Goguryeo >>> Silla > Baekje It is possible that the northern Han people came to Japan via the Korean peninsula, perhaps due to the Mongol invasion.
@DccAnh
@DccAnh 7 месяцев назад
@@user-hn4qr8ty6f Sui and Tang weren't Mongol, the steppe nomad have only really won against China 2 times in history, the Mongol during Genghis Khan and the Manchu in late Ming dynasty, every other time it is the Chinese that kick the nomad @ss.
@brianlewis5692
@brianlewis5692 Год назад
Kofun people are probably just Korean Baekche people. I once read that Baekche invaded or settled in the Shandong peninsula, and the people there have a lot of Korean ancestry as a result. How true this is, I do not know.
@yubemful
@yubemful 2 года назад
The new study regarding to Kofun population is very misleading as the researchers only had a very few samples. It was only 3 individuals from the Kofun period and it was all from the same burial site. It stated: There are caveats to this analysis. First, we are limited to only two Late Yayoi individuals from a region where skeletal remains associated with Yayoi culture are morphologically similar to Jomon (16). Yayoi individuals from other regions or other time points may have different ancestral profiles, e.g., continental-like or Kofun-like ancestry. Second, our sampling is nonrandom, as is the case of our three Kofun individuals coming from the same burial site (table S1). Additional ancient genomic data will be necessary to trace temporal and regional variation in the genetic ancestry of Yayoi and Kofun populations and provide a comprehensive view of the tripartite structure of Japanese populations proposed here.
@missplainjane3905
@missplainjane3905 Год назад
Differs as well
@elkingoh4543
@elkingoh4543 Год назад
As a Malaysian, I can confirm that main 3 East Asian countries just like Maphilindo
@bakunin2208
@bakunin2208 2 года назад
I think it will be nice if this channel covers some recent archeological discoveries about ancient tombs found in south western tip of korean peninsula. These new findings tell a completely new and shocking possibilites of those protojaponic people lived in the Mahan statelets in the present day Kwangju Naju area. Their style of tombs predates that appeared later in the archipelago and the people lived threre seemed to be highly maritime. Evidence shows that they maintained their identity and remained autonomous even until the fall of Backje.
@mikeyseo
@mikeyseo 2 года назад
신기한거 알려드리겠습니다. 축복된 하루 되세요. The Qin dynasty or Ch'in dynasty[1] ([tɕʰǐn], Chinese: 秦朝; pinyin: Qíncháo) was the first dynasty of Imperial China lasting from 221 to 206 BC. Named for its heartland in Qin state (modern Gansu and Shaanxi), the dynasty was founded by Qin Shi Huang, the First Emperor of Qin. The word Qin,pronounced “Chin” in modern tongue, gives us China’s contemporary name. In korean Kim, or Jin. The Emperor 's SURName was not "MIDDLE" or Chin. so MIDDLE COUNTRY... makes NO SENSE. It was GOLD. or KIM. KIM SHI HWANG. 3 syllables. Just like a korean. We are not simply using "Chinese names." We ARE the real China. We bow to no Emperor. Korea has lasted for thousands of years in this way. And we still do today. Goshen is a portion of land located in North Egypt along the Nile delta described as the best land in Egypt, suitable for both crops and livestock. This is where Joseph the patriarch of the Tribe of Joseph and the Tribe Menasseh and Ephraim, married an "ASIATIC" woman in egypt (Nevermind the fact of wondering "WHERE DID THESE ASIANS COME FROM WHAT ARE THEY DOIN IN AFRICA???) If the Septuagint reading "Gesem" is correct, the word, which in its modern Hebrew form has no known meaning, it may mean "cultivated"-comparing the Arabic root j-š-m, "to labor". Egyptologists have suggested a connection with the Egyptian word qas, meaning "inundated land." (source) The word Joseon (조선) comes from the Joseon dynasty (also transcribed as Chosŏn or Chosun, Korean: 대조선국; 大朝鮮國, lit. 'Great Chosun Country') was a Korean dynastic kingdom that lasted for approximately five centuries. Already we can see some curious similarities between the two words Joseon and Goshen. Could these two words be somehow related? Indeed, The letter “J” does not exist in the Hebrew alphabet. The ‘yod’ is the closest Hebrew letter and is pronounced as a “Y,” so a name like Johnathan would be pronounced Yo-nat-tan. “Jonathan” is a transliteration of the Hebrew name into English. The phonetic sound of the letter “G” is then pronounced as a “J” sound in the Hebrew language, reading Gideon as Jideon , or Gehanna (hell) is pronounced as “Jehanna.” From this phonetics we can assume a morphology of letters to represent the same sound over time, as new languages and phonetics are introduced to the culture and population by neighboring, visiting or sojourning groups of different ethnicities. We can also infer that Goshen was probably pronounced “Joshen” or “Joseon.” Even today, in Japan a derogatory term for a Korean is “Josen-jing” meaning “man from Joshen” or a “Goshenite” - depending on the regional pronunciation used they can all sound the same. What is more, we find that the word Joseon is found as early as 700BC even in many pre-Qin dynasty (3rd century B.C.E.) texts. The meaning of this term is uncertain, but a common and using interpretation of its “borrowed” Chinese characters the name can be translated as potential meaning “morning (朝) calm (鮮)” and thus, Korea is also known as the “Land of the Morning Calm”. Though the etymological roots are contested, it is argued and often assumed that these particular characters and words were chosen to represent an “inundated or plentiful land.” - which is curiously similar to the septuagint understanding of the Hebrew word “Goshen or gesem.” ill be writing a book or making some youtube videos to explain it all one day
@FF-ky3mp
@FF-ky3mp 2 года назад
@@mikeyseo Classic fantasy novel of facist korea history revisionism. You bow to cocaine, kid.
@nakjiducbabmasiser7170
@nakjiducbabmasiser7170 2 года назад
@@FF-ky3mp this dude troll pretending to be Korean I think
@mikeyseo
@mikeyseo 2 года назад
@@FF-ky3mp you sound like you are racist. are you racist? Anu = 하늘 = heaven Nak = 낙 = Fallen Ki= 지 = Earth anunakki . Look it up.
@mikeyseo
@mikeyseo 2 года назад
@@FF-ky3mp "you bow to cocaine. kid" lol what is that supposed to mean? lol
@runningbastards6715
@runningbastards6715 2 года назад
The horse invader theory is interesting in that with a few centuries, they forgot how to fight on horses. Then had to relearn it again fighting/learning from the Imishis.
@mikiohirata9627
@mikiohirata9627 2 года назад
Animal husbandry wasn't very common among old western and central Japanese but more of northern Japanese practice where Emishi (not Imeishi) used to live. They definitely have more Jomon connections than the rest and perhaps even part Ainu. Anyway, horses came to Japan along with riders and pastoralism from north east Asia and spread from there. Northern Japan (Tohoku region) was known for horse raising and export to other areas of Japan for a long time.
@CodytheHun123
@CodytheHun123 2 года назад
Is it possible the Japanese Ashina Clan is related to the Turkic Ashina? Or is just a matter of the English word being the same?
@theoneandonlydetraebean8286
@theoneandonlydetraebean8286 2 года назад
It's mostly linguistic coincidence. Like how the Hindi word for Lion is the same as the Swahili word for Lion (Simba)
@hwasiaqhan8923
@hwasiaqhan8923 2 года назад
The word Ashina for that Turkic clan you mentioned is a Chinese phonetical translation so the original Turkic name could be a little different.
@willrock8194
@willrock8194 2 года назад
Very cool study!
@ChrisJClark-ih2oo
@ChrisJClark-ih2oo 2 года назад
Can you do a video on history of china and central asia?
@jonaspete
@jonaspete Год назад
Starting from days back with Yamatai-koku, until Japan closed (Sakoku) the country AC.1639 or 1641, Japan had serious interracial relationships with China and Korea who becomes their ancestors. The collapse of Korea and China dynasty also created several migrations into Japan as well.
@victorsanchez5336
@victorsanchez5336 2 года назад
Question. How related is the Japanese Imperial Clan to the Royal House of the Baekje Kingdom of Korea.
@user-uk8nf8jv6u
@user-uk8nf8jv6u 2 года назад
the modern clan is not so much(because its more related to fujiwara/heike clan), but in heian era, the influence on the X chromosome seems to have been greater because of the mother of Emperor Kammu. nevertheless, this is not directly related to the Baekje Royal House because arrival in Japan 200 years ago. Other tribes before kanmu have been related to the Emperors after several generations of mixing with the Japanese, so it depends on how far you define "related".
@hwasiaqhan8923
@hwasiaqhan8923 2 года назад
Due to studies of Ydna of male members of the Japanese imperial family, they were not from Korea but most likely a paternal lineage of the native Jomon people.
@triangle2367
@triangle2367 2 года назад
@@capmidnite : He has been going through history channels and making ridiculous claims, most of his sources are from Chinese websites or western sources that has a fetish for their woman.
@hwasiaqhan8923
@hwasiaqhan8923 2 года назад
@@capmidnite It’s not wild assertion, it’s quite the common knowledge amongst the genetics community for a long time now, you just never heard about it because you don’t look for it, haplogroup D is the ydna of the Japanese imperial family, the same ydna of the native Jomon people and many Japanese clans that are branches from the imperial family.
@user-uk8nf8jv6u
@user-uk8nf8jv6u 2 года назад
@@hwasiaqhan8923 i respect to your research, but the uniform DNA-level categorisation of "Jomon" is highly arbitrary and hardly objective. It is more limited in scope than categorisations such as "Yayoi" or "Ancient Korean", but that is all. Even the Yayoi are descendants of the Jomon, given their nearly 20,000 years of history, advanced navigational skills and wide distribution, and the Kofun are "descendants of the Jomon with Chinese genes". It is true that the Y chromosome goes back to the Jomon, but the X chromosome and mitochondrial chromosomes must also be considered together to determine our "genetic heritage".
@aurilcia
@aurilcia 8 месяцев назад
Interesting fact: the Star of David has nothing to do with King David. There is no evidence he used any sort of star for his emblem. It’s a more esoteric symbol that got adopted and named after him.
@maxbgi70
@maxbgi70 2 года назад
Where is your source bro?
@CoolHistoryBros
@CoolHistoryBros 2 года назад
Description section.
@williamgoo7621
@williamgoo7621 2 года назад
And the Chosokabe Clan that claim descent from Qin Shi Huang.
@peterchua.ch2106
@peterchua.ch2106 2 года назад
Interesting observation about horse figurines in the kofuns. Western Han Chinese were able to fight the nomad Huns who lived in what is modern day Mongolia and Xinjiang because they imported better quality horses from Central Asia during (Han) Wu Emperor's reign. Giant imperial tombs have been a tradition in China since Qin Dynasty. You probably have heard of or seen the terracotta (clay) warriors and horses excavated from (Qin) Shihuangdi's tomb in northwestern China. Just my personal opinion, the "Horse Riders from North China" theory seems quite plausible.
@missplainjane3905
@missplainjane3905 Год назад
Also different
@TDK2K
@TDK2K Год назад
Tumuli culture was brought over from the Korean peninsula.
@madcorean
@madcorean 10 месяцев назад
I've read there is a connection with Jeon and Tanaka. I would like to get more information on this if anyone knows.
@PPandaPete
@PPandaPete 2 года назад
I don't understand these graphs 7:29. The left one says Koreans are closer to Japanese, the right, Chinese (east asia) are. Usually former is believed, you make it sound like the latter is the case.
@ultramagnus4105
@ultramagnus4105 2 года назад
Would you ever make a video about the historical relationship between Vietnam and Korea? Like about the royal Lý clan?
@alessandrodelogu7931
@alessandrodelogu7931 2 года назад
That would be very interesting.
@earlysda
@earlysda 2 года назад
5:59 "帰化人" actually, literally means "return change people". Pretty good analysis in this video, but the Hata Clan's 秦氏 relation to Israel could be explored much further, because there is a lot of evidence in favor of that position.
@k.umquat8604
@k.umquat8604 2 года назад
I doubt it, especially since there were no "lost tribes of Israel"
@thestealth2448
@thestealth2448 2 года назад
Literally no evidence. Genetics disproves it
@earlysda
@earlysda 2 года назад
@@thestealth2448 Study harder, Stealth.
@werren894
@werren894 2 года назад
symbol of star is older than the israel version tho mesoamerica has it too, nobody can claim it.
@weipodavid170
@weipodavid170 2 года назад
@@earlysda Hata clan’s ydna are O3a, related to 70% of Han Chinese, O3a is a typical East Asian haplogroup too, nothing Jew about them
@jashardwallington
@jashardwallington 2 года назад
Interesting
@sonofamortician
@sonofamortician 2 года назад
so is Jomon the same as Ainu?
@user-uk8nf8jv6u
@user-uk8nf8jv6u 2 года назад
Jomon is a common ancestor of japanese and ainu. On the mainland, first the Jomon with strong links to the Korean peninsula, then the Jomon with strong links to China, became the mainstream in terms of population and area of residence (the border between such buffer-Jomon(Virtual first generation of the gene group) and 'Toraijin(pure origin from china/korean peninsula)' is blurred and often treated as the same as same becaue the to care about all genetics/culture/language make very complexed ). The Ainu, who had a different history to those group, became the mainstream populationin hokkaido with strong links to the indigenous peoples of Okhotsk, the Kuril Islands and Sakhalin . I've simplified it and some of the details may be wrong (because I'm not very good at explaining things).also there was a Ainu in mainland but they became the part of an ancestor of modern eastern japanese.
@IRIS-uq8vd
@IRIS-uq8vd 2 года назад
You forget the Austronesian-Taiwan part of Japan. Not related to any clan but should be mention if you talk about genetic here. Maybe it's worth to check out Masaman's video.
@CoolHistoryBros
@CoolHistoryBros 2 года назад
They're the Jomon people.
@Haijwsyz51846
@Haijwsyz51846 2 года назад
I find masaman's not accurate.
@my_other_side473
@my_other_side473 2 года назад
@@CoolHistoryBros I don't think they are the Jomon people. Nowadays if they are talking about Jomon people. They say that Ainus are descendants of the Jomon people. But they are different from Austronesian speaking Tribe. Ainus probably came from Siberia since most of them are concentrated in Northern Japan. And Austronesian are situated in Okinawa and Southern Japanese Mainland. Or Maybe Jomon is just an umbrella term for a group of Unrelated Tribes who live in Japan before the Yayoi people.
@jackjackyphantom8854
@jackjackyphantom8854 2 года назад
@@my_other_side473 Jomon were actually heterogeneous and some of the tribes were actually related to the Austronesian. And I think Yayoi and Austroasiatic might shares some connection. Haplogroup O-M176 and wet paddy rice agriculture were constitutionally important features of Yayoi; haplogroup O-M176 (Yayoi marker) and O-K18 (Austroasiatic marker) are both descended from O-M268, and not to mention that wet paddy rice farming is commonly practiced in Southeast Asia and Southern China (particularly among ethnic minorities).
@williamg102
@williamg102 2 года назад
Jomon people Ainu and Ryukyu. South Chinese have some of these blood as well.
@AnimeArchaeologist
@AnimeArchaeologist 2 года назад
The Imperial House of Japan has ancestors from the royal family of Baekje and the royal family of Goguryeo has living descendants in Japan.
@yo2trader539
@yo2trader539 Год назад
No it doesn't.
@user-hn4qr8ty6f
@user-hn4qr8ty6f Год назад
Baekje people and modern Koreans are not the same ancestor.” Cognitive bias People can't remember things that are inconvenient lol The genealogy of a woman named Takano Niigasa (formally Takano Ason Niigasa) who is said to be the mother of Emperor Kanmu is... ・25th Baekje King, King Muryeong 461 ・Born in Japan (Nihon Shoki) (Reign 501-523) ・Prince Junda 1st generation resident in Japan (lives in Japan as a hostage) ・Suga-kun 2nd generation resident in Japan ・Hoshi-kun 3rd generation resident in Japan ・Riki Osori 4th generation resident in Japan ・Washi Unara 5th generation resident in Japan Naturalized 1st generation (changed his name to Kazushi and naturalized in Japan) ・Washi Awakatsu 6th generation resident in Japan, 2nd generation naturalized ・Washi Jotoku 7th-generation Japanese resident, 3rd-generation naturalized · Takesuke Kazufumi 8th generation resident in Japan 4th generation naturalized ・Kazushi Otsu, the 9th resident in Japan and the 5th naturalized (he married his daughter into the Imperial family and was given the family name of Takano) * The child born by Takano Shinkasa (the 10th resident of Japan, the 6th naturalized) is Emperor Kanmu (the 50th emperor: reigned 781-806) Ten generations of Baekje immigrated to Japan ten generations ago and naturalized in Japan six generations ago. In the first place, the southern part of the Korean Peninsula was ruled by the Japanese, and the ancestors of the Chinese and Koreans were those who ruled the Yellow Sea coastal area in the north. The Chinese and Koreans have mostly common Northern Han ancestry and fought against the Northern Equestrians with the support of Japan. As proof, the Tang emperor called Baekje and Silla 'king', but Japan was called 'emperor' (天皇).
@kweassa6204
@kweassa6204 2 года назад
Nah, I don't think there's any need to fear the comment section, since these days the nationalism has largely died down in both Korea and Japan, so at least, talking about the possible links between the two in ancient times need not be volatile. Personally, I think it's undeniable there were certain waves of migration, but at the same time I don't think the self-proclaimed lineages are actually based on any real historical event. I think it's a product of just a common trend in antiquity of all cultures to claim their ancestry as that of exotic and prestigious outsiders. Like how the Romans claimed they came from Aeneas of Troy, the Kingdom of Goryeo claimed their ancestry traces back to the Tang imperial family, and the Merovingians claimed they were of Jesus's bloodline.
@alessandrodelogu7931
@alessandrodelogu7931 2 года назад
You're right, but the latter is a modern idea. The Merovingians descended from Clovis, the first Frankish king who converted to Christianity.
@daithiocinnsealach1982
@daithiocinnsealach1982 2 года назад
And of course each Church claiming to come from a specific Apostle thus legitimizing in their own minds their claim to existence
@FOLIPE
@FOLIPE 2 года назад
@@daithiocinnsealach1982 The church has documents, however.
@nakjiducbabmasiser7170
@nakjiducbabmasiser7170 2 года назад
I want to hear more about Goryeo claiming Tang imperial family I thought they claimed Goguryeo instead?
@cgt3704
@cgt3704 2 года назад
@@alessandrodelogu7931 yeah. Blame Dan Brown
@Innomenatus
@Innomenatus 2 года назад
Wouldn't be more plausible that the Horserider conquest theory is compatible with the influx of "Han" DNA? The fourth century marks Goguryeo's dominance and conquest of the Xuantu and Lelang commanderies, (thus marking the rise of the Three Kingdoms of Korea) and the settlers may have spread southwards to Silla and Baekje and merged with them, as indicated from the closeness the Koreans also have with the Northern Chinese in that graph previously used. Also note that this period also interestingly coincides with the Sixteen Kingdoms period.
@rizzierodipaolo1859
@rizzierodipaolo1859 2 года назад
From what I've read on MyHeritage, is that Koreans and Japanese along with northern Chinese are the most genetically homogeneous group on earth.
@missplainjane3905
@missplainjane3905 Год назад
Differs too
@dearcoolz
@dearcoolz 2 года назад
The Vietnamese received so much genetic impact from the Han Chinese over the course of 2000 years (with half of that being spent as a literal part of China), the Vietnamese hardly phenotypically or culturally resemble their Hoabinhian ancestors at all. They are the Southeast Asian ethnic group with by far the most Northeast Asian ancestry, but the Vietnamese continue to speak an Austroasiatic language which is very Southeast Asian. Out of all the extant language families in Southeast Asia, Austroasiatic has had a presence in the SEA region for the longest.
@td7074
@td7074 2 года назад
The vietnamese language prior to western invasion, the kings read and write in chinese. This can be verified in the vietnamese museum of history hochi minh city and many other vietnamese cities. When the french invaded vietnam, they change their language because they didnt like the native language and that they couldnt read it. The vietnamese language today is based on the french language.
@dearcoolz
@dearcoolz 2 года назад
@@td7074 language has nothing to do with ethnicity
@Anonymous------
@Anonymous------ 2 года назад
There are two types of Vietnamese, one is native and the other is from China. Vietnamese originally are from China, they migrated from China at least 5,000 years ago. The native type consists of aboriginal tribes. The Latin name Vietnam is derived from Yue Nam, an English transliteration from a Chinese name. Originally Yue Nam was Nam Yue, it was started by the Chinese Yue about 2,000 years ago. The Chinese Yue mixed with the aboriginal natives and they became Bai Yue, meaning hundred Yue tribes.
@Anonymous------
@Anonymous------ 2 года назад
@@dearcoolz ethnicity [ eth-nis-i-tee ] noun, plural eth·nic·i·ties. An ethnic group or ethnicity is a grouping of people who identify with each other on the basis of shared attributes that distinguish them from other groups such as a common set of traditions, ancestry, language, history, society, culture, nation, religion, or social treatment within their residing area.
@Anonymous------
@Anonymous------ 2 года назад
@@td7074 Those kings were all Chinese originally from China. Y-DNA analysis proofs they were Chinese not native aborigines.
@dearcoolz
@dearcoolz 2 года назад
Interestinly the kofun period corresponds to a period of chaos and barbarian invasion of china Kawagoe wrote: The Han empire collapsed in AD 220. China became politically divided, with many short-lived kingdoms arising in different regions of the continent. And upon the fall of the Chin dynasty, the invasions of nomadic tribes from the north resulted in political dislocation of many clans and ethnic groups. This triggered the outflow of displaced migrants into Korea and very likely at some point, Japan, bringing with them Chinese techniques and knowledge. [Source: Aileen Kawagoe, Heritage of Japan]
@dubuyajay9964
@dubuyajay9964 8 месяцев назад
Do the Chosokabe still exist?
@kuroazrem5376
@kuroazrem5376 2 года назад
I do think that, maybe, horesmen did invade Japan, or at least migrated there. It would be strange if they didn't. Also, their admixture with Chinese and Korean would explain why these very different linguistic groups share a lot of genetic similarities.
@shion_bluerider
@shion_bluerider 2 года назад
The horsemen conquest dynasty theory is now complete fiction. The key-shaped burial mound of the emperor, which is characteristic of Japan, continues from the 3rd century AD to the 7th century AD. This would not be possible if the horsemen were conquering. Also, it is impossible to ship a large number of horses to conquer Japan at that time.
@kuroazrem5376
@kuroazrem5376 2 года назад
@@shion_bluerider not really if they crossed in Hokkaido from the north when the passages are frozen. However, this might not be the case since the Ainu don't seem to incorporate horseriding as part of their culture.
@Werner4voss
@Werner4voss 2 года назад
@@kuroazrem5376 you clearly have no knowledge of ancient NE Asia....
@Innomenatus
@Innomenatus 2 года назад
@@shion_bluerider Is it? The massive influx of genetic material indicates displacement above anything else. The Japonic languages also have seemed to diverged around 1450-1700 years ago, also indicating that the Horserider theory has some merit. The Horseriders would've likely been those of Sinitic and Buyeo descent, unlike modern Koreans who are Samhan in linguistic origin.
@weipodavid170
@weipodavid170 2 года назад
@@Innomenatus The Chinese migration in to N.Korea displaced the original Koreans from N.Korea to migrate to S.Korea, and the japonic people(Yayoi) who were natives of S.Korea were forced to migrate to Japan and displaced the Jomon.
@sardunai952
@sardunai952 2 года назад
Comments by [insert Asian nationalist group] who ignore everything past 7:00 be like: "Japanese are Korean, Koreans are Chinese, and Chinese are Mongolians!"
@michaelrenper796
@michaelrenper796 2 года назад
Lets troll the Han Nationalists. Northern Chinese are Mongolians, Southern Chinese are Vietnamese and the only true descendants "Han" are the Hakka.
@12vtbfx37
@12vtbfx37 2 года назад
@@michaelrenper796 The Mongols and the Han are different peoples who have been fighting each other for 2,000 years
@CoolHistoryBros
@CoolHistoryBros 2 года назад
12v tbfx. You're wrong. The Mongols did not exist 2000 years ago, there are different steppe people that had inhabited that area over time. The Song dynasty was actually an ally of the Mongol against the Jurchen Jin dynasty. You can actually partially credit/blame Song for the rise of the Mongols.
@yingqin7256
@yingqin7256 2 года назад
Chinese are mongolians?are you kidding me???
@yingqin7256
@yingqin7256 2 года назад
Do you read some studies about DNA of Han Chinese or mongolians?
@16252
@16252 4 месяца назад
thanks
@inipassword8517
@inipassword8517 2 года назад
Fascinante.
@slaine3166
@slaine3166 2 года назад
I think you are missing some of the important parts of the history. It is understandable that this is a video format therefore you wouldn't be able to cover too much details. Even in Asuka region where it is considered Japanese people's place of heart, Han(Kara) people (from three to four Korean kingdoms you mentioned) were influencing their power significantly without a doubt. "Soga" Clan is the great example that although Soga came out of nowhere in Japan, they started to take over Japanese emperor's authority in flawless progression. There are tons of leftover artifacts that almost exactly matches three Korean Kingdom's artifact such as roof tile or riding horse statue etc. Soga Clan knew how to politically manifest their power of people and manipulate Emperor's people however they wanted. Although there's no direct proof, it is highly believed to be Soga most likely originated from Han people, the ones who crossed over as the name says "Toraijin." It is easily thinkable that Japan at old times wanted Chinese goods so badly therefore they have directed traded each other. Although there are good amount of cases like that but at that time crossing the ocean all the way to China was considered quite dangerous. Therefore Japan traded Chinese goods through Korea most of the time, while Korea was hectic with establishing kingdoms etc. Because 1. it was much closer to Japan and Japan was establishing good relationship with them. 2. There were some of Chinese Clans settled in Korea called "Four Han(Chinese) Conglomerate." And Japan didn't have to go all the way to China to get Chinese goods and instead get it from them in Korea. 3. Various Toraijin Korean people were already settling in Japan, politically interconnected to the people of emperor. Japanese authoritative figures became familiar with connection to Korea by that time.
@imfromearth4222
@imfromearth4222 2 года назад
For both of them, too, each other would have been an important partner when it came to relations with China and the northern powers. Unfortunately, Japan was not able to protect Baekje... lol The soga clan is probably not well translated, but mainstream research suggests that it was not a clan that suddenly appeared, but rather one of the clans that had previously been responsible for the management of the migratory people. It has been nearly 300 years since the arrival of the clan. I think that the fact that they had been in charge of the people for a long time in japan is the reason why they emerged at the stage of development of Japan. At the time, the real 'Toraijin' who had the skills were employed by the old 'Toraijin' who had been in Japan for hundreds of years to undertake their occupations, so they would not have had the opportunity to influence politics.
@slaine3166
@slaine3166 2 года назад
@@imfromearth4222 That is a quite interesting story. The fact that those original Toraijins continued to take immigration from Korea like that is definitely possible story since the connection between Korea and Japan under the mainstream sceneries has been well-known case in their historical relationship. I'm not sure about Soga clan has been there nearly 300 years except knowing they have been there for a long time and have wielded their sociopolitical power greatly, they suddenly have appeared in Japanese court at around 5th century out of nowhere.
@jun8569
@jun8569 2 года назад
You are correct. It was difficult for Japanese to directly interact with Chinese back in those days. They mainly imported things via Korean kingdoms.
@davidjacobs8558
@davidjacobs8558 2 года назад
problem with "Kara" (Gaya / Gara / Garak in Korean, all 3 names are used interchangeably) is that they did not leave any written records. So it is very difficult to figure out what their story is. Garak (Kimhae) Kim Clan (which there are many members) claims they descended from Royal family of Gara. There is possibility that they are descendants of Xiongnu Prince "Jin Midi" who served in Han Dynasty Court. Wang Mang's Xin Dynasty and it's subsequent collapse may have sent Kim clan and Heo clan to escape to Korean peninsula.
@slaine3166
@slaine3166 2 года назад
@@davidjacobs8558 There is a possibility that the name Kara derived from Kaya, most likely derived from frequent contact with Fukuoka region. But from what we can find out so far, is the name Kara from reading Han 韓 character from official Japanese historical records such as Nihonshoki, as Japanese called Korea "Karakuni" in old times. As you said it is true that there aren't many directly written records left, but for now Academia is finding out their record by searching artifacts and records of Shrine diaries etc, by matching other historical records with it. Academia has officially denied the Xiongnu Prince Jin Midi theory because 1. he was already famous figure in both China and Korea. And worshipping well-known figures was prevalent practice in both countries, such as Guanyu from Three kingdoms Romance. 2. Korea had been having intimate contact with northern arrivals for a long time. Numerous artifacts prove the majority of Korean ancestors came from north throughout various Korean kingdoms such as Buyeo. Therefore Xiongnu isn't the only one that may have indirectly influenced Korea in early Korean development. Jurchen and Xianbei for example. 3. Goryeo, Backje, Shilla all claimed certain historical figure as their ancestor. So it is not only limited to a certain country. All of the races other than Chinese wanted to be called Chinese in order to heighten their race for civilizational reason. Therefore it is taken as most likely created story that is applied to the record. 4. There has been zero symbolically Xiongnu derived artifacts or rituals found in Korea. 5. And Lastly, by the time of Jin Midi, his family has been naturalized in Han dynasty for over seven generations. And he has kept his Xiongnu tradition over 7 generations? If that is true, there should be at least single one that resembles Shilla style tomb in Han dynasty capital Xian(Changan at that time), and there hasn't been a single one found. So all we can prove so far is that various northern tribes have influenced Korea but Xiongnu isn't the only one and majority of the time it was lead by ancestral Koreans such as Buyeo and Goryeo.
@greendro6410
@greendro6410 2 года назад
Well it's not really surprising that there would be some intermixing between some of the Chinese, Koreans and Japanese throughout history in East Asia.
@missplainjane3905
@missplainjane3905 Год назад
Also different
@nyuntnyunttin8583
@nyuntnyunttin8583 2 года назад
It is hard to differentiate the boundry of a race to another.
@vinsontan25
@vinsontan25 2 года назад
I really got stumped trying to guess your nationality through your pronounciations of english and mandarin lol
@TheWorld4all
@TheWorld4all Год назад
It's no mystery.... all the island people had to come from a mainland and the closest mainland is korea. So, Japanese are nothing but Korean. Even their emperor had admitted that his lineage is Korea.
@djhaka7380
@djhaka7380 2 года назад
This is some of my favorite topic to study about since there are so many theories that are intriguing both linguistically and anthropologically. Like Mimana-nihon-fu [任那日本府] in Southern Korea which was like a trade federation between ancient Korea and Japan. Ame-no-hiboko [天之日矛] the Prince of Silla and other deities from Silla coming to inhabit various places in West Japan. These are probably the result of Peninsular Japonic becoming a lingua franca between Yamato and Central/Southern Korea. And my favorite fringe theory of Tungusic peoples in Japan hence, the etymological origin of the word Ukara-yakara [ウカラヤカラ] meaning "blood relatives" coming from the word Xala/Kala in Tungusic language referring to patrilineal family.
@michaelleluther6568
@michaelleluther6568 Год назад
Just thinking,maybe that the secret of the five kings inside the keyhole in Osaka
@MrZgui415
@MrZgui415 2 года назад
much history cuz all I know of my family history is that we ( Cai ) fled / spread due to the wei empire and became " Chai " " Chae " " Sai " " choi " and etc
@sanneoi6323
@sanneoi6323 Год назад
In Korea there is a legendary horse called the Chollima, said to be able to travel 400km in one day. It is a symbol of Korea. Given that Yamato people originally came to Japan from the southern tip of the Korean peninsula, I can see where the horse motif comes from.
@thegreatbufan6158
@thegreatbufan6158 Год назад
I suppose you're saying 千里马 qianlima (also chollima, cheollima, and senrima; lit. 'thousand-li horse'), which is a mythical horse that originates from the Chinese classics and is commonly portrayed in East Asian mythology. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qianlima
@user-ot3xf5hq8f
@user-ot3xf5hq8f Год назад
@@thegreatbufan6158 That's right. It probably originated in China, and it's a word shared by East Asia.
@ReviveHF
@ReviveHF 2 года назад
The comment section will be amazing to look at.
@tinateh
@tinateh 4 месяца назад
Trying to understand how I have Japanese/Korean DNA from 7 generations ago when I know I have Chinese and proto-Malay lineage. Still clueless.
@yulusleonard985
@yulusleonard985 2 года назад
Horse rider probably nomads who was invited by Jin but then that thing called 16 kingdoms happen and they just want to quit and resettle elsewhere.
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