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Japanese Culture is absolutely amazing! I was born in Misawa. The people are always extremely polite and courteous. Enjoyed the video. Thank you for all your great content!
And if one member of the family breaks law severely, the whole household was exterminated. You had to respect your clan leader, but watch him carefully he didn't fornicate, murder or steal - or you'd have been excuted with him.
"We, the kingdom on the eastern isles, therefore establish diplomatic relations with you by sending 4 male and 6 female slaves and a couple of towels." Man, I love the ancient politics.
@@elazar79 We, Wei, will warn Wa when warm winds wash wanton women westerly. Whilst watching warily, wise words work wonderous wiles. Who wants war with Wu? This isn't intended to hold any particular meaning. Your comment about We and Wa just struck me with a whimsical mood. 😉
Takezo Kimura Both Chinese and Japanese names are written in same Chinese letters but different grammar structures, Chinese: 1 or 2 letters for family name and 1 or 2 letters as given name (A+B, A+BC, AB+C, AB+CD), for Japanese, they don't have those short names, they only have : A+BC, AB+C, AB+CD, AB+CDEF and as many as you want as given name.
In-fact, they were such good friends that Japan tried to break up the nasty Chinese civil war by murdering hundreds of thousands of Chinese civilians. YAY! FRIENDSHIP!
It's funny because from living in Japan for 7 years I know that Japanese cannot typically process alcohol correctly. They get drunk off of such a small amount of liquor and get the typical "Asian flush" where their face goes red and they hiccup. If they drink as much as it takes the average man to get drunk they get deathly sick with a face as red as a tomato and they can die from alcohol poisoning doing as such.
@@saddgod That's so nuts to me. I'm trying to cut way back on alcohol and still actually feel it even. As a man with German and Cherokee descent directly it feels like I can pound half a bottle of whiskey and multiple beers and still feel unsatisfied and needing more. A bottle of sake is no problem, may as well be Kombucha
@dollan song to be or not to be that nerd but chances are in this time in history Japanese probably didn't sound the same or was even remotely similar to at the Japanese we have now
I wondered how they measured their age if that was true. Middle easterners claim people can live past the 100s to the 120s and such. Dod the early japanese measure it based on seasons? I want to know since that's one reason we have ages like 120 something in history.
7:50 The name of Wei's capital still survives in one of the Japanese words that means "going to Kyoto", _jōraku_ (上洛, literally "going to Luoyang"), where the _raku_ is the Japanese pronunciation of "luo" in "Luoyang" (洛陽, _Rakuyō_ in Japanese)
Luoyang(洛阳/洛陽) still exists as a city in China. It has about 2 million residents in the city proper. But more importantly, a question. The more interesting part of the phrase for me is 上, i.e. going up to Kyoto. Is this because in Japan, more civilised/urban places are metaphorically considered to be above, like how trains are said to "climb/go up" when going in the direction of the city center and "decend/go down" when they go in the direction of suburbs and smaller towns?
@@2712animefreak In the case of trains, up/down is probably not unique to Japan; I live in Australia, and trains to the city centre are called up, and those away from the city centre called down technically (but it is not commonly used by the public like in Japan). The 上 thing is probably just directly borrowed from Chinese itself, since the older way of saying going to the capital in China is 上京 (also used in Japanese)
@@koalitaDormilona Thanks for the explanation, but still, why is going to the capital considered to be equivalent to climbing? Maybe the whole concept is borrowed from China.
@@2712animefreak It's not about climbing. It has parallels with 下乡 (going back to one's hometown/going to the countryside). Don't comparison English prepositions to Chinese particles. They don't work the same.
Actually the Wei kingdom capital was 開封, or KaFeng, but 洛陽 was the capital of the eastern Hang dynasty 東漢. Wei was officially still part of the Han dynasty, as all 3 kingdoms were officially still part of Han dynasty until the Emperor was forced to abdicate. So technically 洛陽 was still the capital of the whole China.
Yep ... brilliant concept ... watched more than a few of these over last few months ... inherently fascinating ... and also, crucially, David Kelly's voice (precision / intonation / inflection) is a real pleasure to listen to.
Note that clapping is still a feature of Shinto worship. (3:00) One of the greatest controversies in ancient Japanese historiography is exactly where the state of Yamatai lay in the Japanese archipelago. According to Chinese records, this was the name of the state ruled by the shamaness Pimiko. The historian who wrote the "Account of Wa", Chen Shou, described the route to get there from Daifang near Seoul, but if you follow his directions exactly you end up deep underwater. This leads to two alternatives: Assuming he got the distances right but the compass directions wrong, you end up in the Kinai near Kyoto and Osaka, in the historic kingdom of Yamato that eventually gave rise to the modern Japanese state. Assuming he got the compass directions right but the distances wrong, and you're in northern Kyushu. This is still an unsettled question because archaeology supplies arguments in support of both possibilities.
The key tombs of Pimiko are South Osaka, in a modern city called Sakai. I know because they are a 1 hour train ride from my home. Safe to say the Ancient city was this region.
@@Shitbird3249 I'm sorry, you seem to have misunderstood my comment. I didn't say it was surprising. I said it was interesting. It is interesting to see which aspects of Japanese culture are affected by their neighbours and which aren't. Much in the same way it is interesting to see which aspects of the west have influenced and changed Japan since it opened up in the 1800's. Again, not surprising, but interesting. Hope that helps.
But here's the real question. Who is the elite of the Asian continent man? China Japan or korea? Or can we also add turkey? China gave Japan some culture but yet Japan annexed them and the other Asian countries. Who's the top dog?
ooh! I was the one requesting this video ! And it didn't disappoint! It's so well done! The video is nice too, but.. actually; you can just close your eyes and find yourself in a different time ^__^. Sure, there are documentaries.. and you can find these texts.. but having them read to you in this style, it's such a fantastic idea! Keep up the good work!
The first mention of the Japanese archipelago was in the Chinese historic text Book of Later Han, in the year 57, in which it was noted that the Emperor of the Han dynasty gave a golden seal to Wa (Japan). The King of Na gold seal was discovered in northern Kyūshū in the eighteenth century. From then on Japan was repeatedly recorded in Chinese historical texts, at first sporadically, but eventually continuously as Japan matured into a notable power in the region.
@@jackjackyphantom8854 That is a question that is extremely difficult to begin to answer. But there are some historical records of Japan with none or minimal Chinese influence, such as Yamatai-koku during the Yayoi period (~1st - 3rd CE). Yamatai was shamanistic, expansionistic, and agrarian. Without the introduction of Tang Chinese cultures and government structures, it is interesting to imagine how Japan would find a way to eventually centralize into a single ethnic nation or not.
@@seer3336 I heard that Yamatai had the practices of face and body tattooing, eating raw fish and wet paddy rice farming, and their houses were wooden on stilts.
I always hear how ancient historical documents are exaggerated or having a motive to degrade the subject of the piece. But this just seems like a objective account of what ancient japan society was like
From what I know, ancient Chinese historians tended to be way more objective than historians in other ancient nations. In fact, I would say that this tradition of keeping meticulous, objective records is part of the reason why China is the nation with the clearest cultural continuity today, besides perhaps Greece. Other nations with long history of civilisation have had to rely on archaeology to really understand what their ancestors did.
@@StarSpawn06 the chinese texts could be very biased like any other piece of ancient text. I feel more like it's because there wasn't a cultural or political reason to be biased in the assessment of Kofun Japan. They weren't at war with them, they didn't have bad relations with them, and there wasn't any desire to annex them since it'll just be a pain in the ass with very little gain from a resource-poor island.
Wasn't there this ancient Chinese historian (Xi Maqian) who was framed and sentenced to death? He pledged replacing death sentence with extreme humiliating torture (he would be neutered in the process) because he was working on a huge history record. I would say a person who live on under humiliation for the sake of preserving history on record would try his best to be as objective as possible. I would also guess that many later Chinese historians thought of him as a hero and lived for history instead of the king.
@@maxpark1339 Even for China itself. The tradition was to organize historical records for previous one dynasty, instead of the current one, to avoid historians being persecuted for what they write.
Sheetzn Gigglez I like Japan's history I'm Greek and we have the oldest biggest civilisation in Europe and one of the oldest on earth and we have so much history and I love learning about other culture civilisations history with respect
There are many paragraphs skipped, including: - A guide to reach Himiko's capital, as well as settlements (implied to be self-ruling, by the use of the term 国 guó/kuni for each settlement, variously rendered as "settlements" and "provinces" in the translation in the video) along the way. Unfortunately, it quickly becomes unclear after reaching Fukuoka and thus there is still a debate where exactly the sphere of influence of Himiko's state end. My personal theory is roughly two-thirds of Kyushu. - The assignment of an intendant of Himiko in the settlement of Ito (either Itoshima or far west of Fukuoka) - A list of minerals, plants and animals produced by or present in Japan (pearls and jade top the list) - Further interactions between Japan and Wei in the period 240-248 (Jingchu 2 corresponds to 238 in Gregorian/Julian calendar)
I don't think many in the West really appreciate just how advanced ancient Chinese culture was in its Zenith. It was comparable in ways to Greece and Rome at their heights.
@@sdssdds8415 - LOL, the largest Palace in recorded history is (Weiyang Palace) which literally translates to (Never Ending Palace ) constructed during the Han Dynasty, 3rd Century AD... and now the largest palace on the planet is still in China, which is the (Forbidden City), but it is 6.7 times smaller than Weiyang.
@@dayangmarikit6860 we're talking about cultures. China was divided multiple times also. Seeing that Weiyang burned down it must have been made of wood. The forbidden city came a 1000 years after the roman empire. Europeans were constructing cathedrals higher than the piramids by then.
sds sdds you seem like a western supremacist. I dont get you people who puts their ego on the same pedastrial as ancient civilisations, who doesnt have anything in common with their modern believe. For the record what do you make of Ankor Wat or Potala palast which still stands to this day?
This is a record from the Three Kingdoms period, but as mentioned in the account, envoys from Japan had frequented China since at least the preceding Han Dynasty
@@SeanHiruki the qin was definitely important both its contribution(standardising writing, legalism) and symbolically(unifying the whole middle Kingdom) despite its short existence
It is so interesting that he emphasized they placed their dead in mounds. In modern Japanese historiography, this timeframe (300 - 538 AD) is called the "burial mound period", due to the Japanese landscape still being scattered with these mounds. It certainly adds veracity to the account.
This was so early in Japanese history. When they were talking about the burial mounds, I was like "this was the Kofun period!". It's pretty amazing to me. When I visited Japan, most if the history was focused on the Edo-period, the early Shogunate and the Kamakura eta.
@@snow2076 To answer your question, probably not. The Kofun period marks the second era of the Yayoi (Yamato) culture. The decline of the Emishi marks the start of the Kamakura period after the Kofun period. As a side note, the Emishi were probably not related to the Ainu.
@@cudanmang_theog that means Japanese probably have same ancestor as most of the Austronesian speaker (the Southeast Asia people)? It has been said that there are traces of austronesian speaker tribe in Japan. But Japanese language itself is an Isolated language, so it wasn't been brought there by the immigrants right?
@@soro31337 Some traditions are extremely old it goes to show, although some of it could be coincidental. I missed the clapping hands part, that's fascinating too. I wonder if the ancient Romans did the same gestures with their hands while talking as the Italians do now.
Human evolution is an extremely slow process without intermixing. They've been saying "change gon come" & "there's a revolution y'all" for generations now. Nothing's changed.
@@cliz305 I think by late Zhou (Warring States Era) they stopped due to it being a shell state by that time. However I know sorcerers and astrologers still used it sparingly throughout the other dynasties. Xu Fu was a Qin-era sorcerer/alchemist who would have known, if not practiced that style of divination.
Note: This is with regards to Yamatai country (邪馬台国) that Himiko ruled at that time, one country out of the many that are though to have existed at that time in one of the islands that we would later call Japan (the actual location of the Yamatai country is still under debate since following the routes the Chinese historian left would lead you to the middle of nowhere... but that's another can of worms). So in context, this passage is more similar to an early Roman talking about one of the Celtic tribes on one of the major islands of the UK and the video being called "Ancient Roman historian describes Britain" -Which I am not faulting VoP or anything since no better title makes sense from a modern perspective.
and the title is not actually wrong because the country yamato was possibly settled on one of the main islands of Japan, and they're ancestors of modern Japanese yamato people (excluding other existing ethnicities that were blended into yamato as one nationality
@@VoicesofthePast I've always been a fan of history, was one of my best subjects in school. I found myself wondering what life would have been like in such a society back then. It seems to different than anything we're used to.
When the narrator spoke of Rome/Byzantine, his voice was pitched higher, indicating more curiosity/respect. Here when talking of Wa/Japan, VOTP speaks lower, a thin undercurrent of contempt, which is appropriate to the attitude of the Chinese towards the Japanese at that time. (not saying that VOTP feels that way, only that the character he's speaking for does)
I do not notice any contempt in his voice and these all generally have a similar inflection, as far as I can determine. I used to think that the speaker was actually an artificial voice.
Chinese empires did not hold contempt for their neighbors since they thought no one were their equal. Maybe condescending would be more correct term. Even now, they are noted for their condescending attitude.
These videos are amazing. I loved the one on the birth of Rome. It's great to bring a voice to history's (and mythology's) written word. Does the channel extend beyond RU-vid to other platforms?
The history can be highly confusing and sometimes inaccurate. For example, there's no Himiko in the recording of Japanese side. She did not exist. This is why ancient history is fascinating, everything was recorded from someone s own words, we do not know whether it's true, what was the context? Or it was simply misunderstood due to loss in translation.
Kojiki, Japan's oldest surviving historical record, was completed 430 years after the Records of the Three Kingdoms. It was written for justifying the rule of imperial Yamato polity. We know little about Japan's history before the 4th century, maybe Himiko and her Yamatai-koku was not related to the people who later formed the Yamato polity. And maybe, those stories about Shinto gods are actually stories about ancient Japanese clans, as many Japanese historians have pointed out. Maybe Amaterasu was actually Himiko, Susano'o was an elder of Izumo clan who first learned to use iron.
There is no Vercingetorix in the recording of Gaul/Frank. That doesn't mean Vercingetorix did not exist. They just hadn't known how to record their history.
Because in the Edo period and later, the warlords and shogun practiced history revisionism to give themselves more power and influence. The early Japanese history is lost to time, and its only from these rare diplomatic sources that we can understand some of it.
Yak it's entirely intentional for the latter male rulers to erase the legacy of the benevolent and loved queens of older times. Even in this passage they mentioned how male rulers bring forth violence and everyone preferred a queen.
This was so early in Japanese history, I wonder if the Japanese were more closely related to the Ainu native Japanese tribes at the time? They certainly appear to be more interested in divination and other more pagan-esque rites than they would be during the Tokugawa era, although the cultural and behavioral similarities are obvious.
Anti-Defecation League No genetically they are know since 2000BC to have replaced plains and mountain tribes immigrating both from Korea and also Hong Kong region and Taiwan. The Ainu are FASCINATING they appear almost Caucasian like Aryan race of India, even green and blue eyes in history, yet share similar language and traditions with the Inu, both words meaning they people’ in Coastal West and arctic Canada and Alaska. Excellent question dear.
There are detailed records about how Japanese, namely Matsumae clans colonized Ainu just like Westerners did to Native Americans during Tokugawa-era. Japanese literally enslaved them, and ethnic cleansing took place in such a manner like sending men and husbands away to labor camps far away from home while slavers and merchants took women and wives of them. So yes, Tokugawa-era was pretty much the last nail to the coffins of Ainu ethnicity. Only good deeds done at the time was that a conscience intellectual Matsuura Takeshiro traveled to Hokkaido and recorded all the inhumanity going on as he witnessed. Had it not been that, the historical narratives about Ainu people and their disappearance would have been more covered up with sugar coat in favor of Japanese expansionism. BTW, as you point out, those people must have been Jomon / Yamato people, who were coexisting or closely related with indigenous Ainu people. It’s sad really, their histories are forbidden by Japanese themselves to maintain Shinto Emperor cult in which the one blood ruled all time history of Japan. Every time they find potential ancient archeological sites, the Royal house institution makes up whatever stories to claim their properties like “Oh that’s our ancestors’ tomb. Please don’t come in” They bar the place, put up some shrines and pretend to mourn whoever they imagine to be buried there. Really creepy isn’t it?
From the pre -Qin dynasty, there have been 4 times large -scale immigrants from Chinese Han people to enter the Japanese islands and Korean Peninsula, which have a profound impact on the historical trends of China and Japan and ( Korean Peninsula ). Focus on reference materials : Asuka Period in Japanese history (538-710 AD) , Nara period (710-794) in Japanese history ) The Chinese carefully taught the primitives of Japan (and korea) at the time to teach the knowledge of rice, cutting wells, manufacturing agricultural tools, spreading medicine, textiles and other knowledge. They pushed Japan from the brutal primitive society to a slave society. Chinese Han people's four large -scale immigrants enter the Japanese islands record : 1. Qin and Han Dynasty Qin Shihuang (秦始皇 259-210 BC) swept the six regions. In order to escape the war, the Chinese people fled to Japan in two ways: Some Chinese people crossed the sea from the Northeast to the Korean Peninsula to Japan. Japan. 2. During the Wei, Jin, Northern and Southern Dynasties (420 -589 BC) During the period of "Upheaval of the Five Barbarians 五胡亂華", in order to avoid the war, the Chinese people began a wave of migration to a large -scale migration around. Most of the fleeing Chinese finally went to Japan, forming the climax of immigration to Japan. The representative is Liu Azhi (劉阿知), the descendant of Emperor Han Xian(漢獻帝). 3. The Sui and Tang Dynasties (581-907 BC) Japan sent a large -scale Tang ambassador to China to visit China, while China sent a large number of people to spread advanced technology and culture to Japan. Most of these people are monks or cultural scholars. They are left as required by the Japanese because of the difficult sailing and welcomed by Japan. They often stay and "domestication" into the Japanese. The representative is the monk Jianzhen(監真). 4. The Song (960-1279)and Ming dynasties(1368-1644) In the Yuan Dynasty, the Han people in the southern Song Dynasty broke their families. In order to avoid the war and kill, they moved to Japan one after another. The representative of this period was scholar of the Southern Song Dynasty - Lanxi Daolong(蘭溪道隆). ***************************** During the Qin Dynasty (秦朝), when the Chinese people arrived in Japan by ship (Fleeing and expanding the territory due to the Chinese war). The local indigenous people regarded the Chinese as God. The image of the Japanese gods looked like ancient Chinese and Chinese clothes.You can see that Japanese myths are adapted from Chinese mythology. (The Japanese were still indigenous during this period. And there was no characters.) These Chinese in ancient Japan later returned to China (the Tang Dynasty). They asked the Chinese Emperor of the Tang Dynasty to send a large number of Chinese scholars and Chinese technicians (including architects, doctors, monks, artist ,Chinese martial arts Master ...). Let them take a big ship to Japan together. Establish a Chinese local regime in Japan. It becomes a part of a Chinese territory. Like other Chinese cities. In ancient Japan, it was fixed to the Chinese emperor to send goods to the Chinese emperor each year (it did not stop until the Qing Dynasty清朝 in China). These tong Chinese have been wearing Chinese clothing in Japan (But Japan lacks resources. The cloth material is rough). They build a Chinese Tang -style building in Japan. Chinese coins appear in Japan. Chinese etiquette (including kneeling and chopsticks, etc.). Use China's governance system and religious culture (Confucianism, Taoism and Buddhism to Japan). Since the beginning, the official language of Japan is Chinese language and Chinese characters (only the Chinese royal family and nobles use and learn). Japanese history uses Chinese characters to record (classical Chinese). It mainly records the life of Chinese officials and nobles in Japan. And civilians are local indigenous Japanese. They speak Japanese language. There is no characters. Ancient Korean Peninsula and northern Vietnam. It is closer to China. China is more direct about its governance. The situation is similar to Japan. In Japan, there are many large tombs (and unearthed cultural relics) of ancient Chinese. These tombs are also built by traditional Chinese methods. But the Japanese have denied the fact that ancient Chinese originally established in Japan. This is because Japan has become an independent country in modern times. The history of more great Japanese nations needs to be built. This is the same as South Korea and Vietnam. ***************************** In ancient China. Due to the escape or expansion of territorial reasons. There were many records of the Han people moved to the Korean Peninsula and the Japanese islands (including Okinawa). Establishing small countries and regimes on these islands (representing Chinese senior officials rather than emperor). In addition to the later period of Japan (because of the ocean). The Han regime on the Korean Peninsula has always been the ancient Chinese territory and the scope of direct jurisdiction (but sometimes it is similar to the different phenomenon of political opinions from the central government. It is similar to the situation in Taiwan and Hong Kong today. When the relationship between Taiwan and Hong Kong and the central government is bad. Sometimes they think they are independent countries or claim to be non -Chinese). The history of the establishment of a regime on the Korean Peninsula (Goguryeo, Baiji, Silla, Goryeo , Joseon). It is not the history of the Korean people. Instead, it is the history of the local regime of the Han people in northern China.These royal family and nobles are Chinese and descendants who move to the peninsula. They are wearing Han nationality clothing and using Chinese characters. They also claim to be the Han family. They are like Hong Kong and Macau and Taiwan. The Han people basically speak two Chinese languages (Chinese dialects+Chinese official language), one of the Han dialects that are lost. Only some civilians and slaves are indigenous people from the south of the peninsula (Koreans). This is very certain. (A large number of ancient Chinese tombs were unearthed on the 4/5 Korean Peninsula today. Han murals (depicting the lives of the Han people in the north), the fairy and god beast of the Han nationality.Han religion. Chinese character stone monument. Han Dynasty coins. ........... The southernmost part of the peninsula is unearthed in the original and backward Korean national life tools. It can be seen that the extremes of two different ethnic groups( Chinese VS Korean ) and different civilizations exist at the same time in the same period of the peninsula history. ***************************** Before 1966, the Japanese royal family and nobles (mainly descendants of Chinese and Chinese scholars). The official language and text have always been Chinese language and Chinese characters (classical Chinese). Only civilians use Japanese language and no characters . 1866. Japanese abolition of Chinese characters. The official words were changed to Japanese language and Japanese characters (keep about 1,000 Chinese characters). Before 1910, the Korean royal family and nobles (descendants of Chinese and Chinese scholars). Official languages and words have always been Chinese language and Chinese characters (classical Chinese). Only civilians use Korean language and no characters . In 1910, Korea was invaded. Korea abolished Chinese characters. The official words were changed to Korean language and Korean characters (appeared in the 15th century). ***************************** The Koreans claim that they are the ancestors of the Japanese. They believe that the ancient Koreans provided technical and culture to the Japanese. That was because today's Korean people will establish a political history established by the Chinese Han nationality on the peninsula (Goguryeo, Baiji, Silla, Goryeo , Joseon) .After the revision, it will become the history of the Korean people. The Chinese technology and culture on the peninsula will be said to be Korean culture. This is completely fake. It is ancient Chinese that provides technology and culture to Japan. Due to the escape or expansion of territorial reasons. There are many Chinese people (= Han) moved to the Korean Peninsula and the Japanese islands (including Okinawa) historical records. Some of the Chinese who escape because of the war, and passed through the Korean Peninsula to Japan. Some of the Chinese have established the Chinese Han regime on the peninsula (Goguryeo, Baiji, Silla, Goryeo , Joseon). They settled on the peninsula for a while. Finally, they moved to the Japanese island via the Korean Peninsula. Provide Japanese technology and culture to the Japanese. (* Do not rule out a small amount of Korean slaves. Following Chinese nobles and scholars to move to Japan)
in clavell's shogun there is a passage, where Toranaga speaks to Ishido: remember the time china sent an embassy, we all expected them to negotiate the truce between japan and corea; but the chinese embassy adressed the Taiko and offered to "confirm him as king of wa" on behalf of their emperor, upon which the taiko graciously decided not to send the embassy back to china in small boxes, specially prepared hor the corpses, but let them go home, so he could declare war on china as well as continue the war on cporea ;) it's just a passage I read ysterday
Having watched various videos about Japan from this channel, I notice that Japan's customs have changes drastically throughout the millennia. Some things stay the same (ppl live long and no theft), but much other than that has been different in each era.
Most interesting about this is, this part of history was lost in Japan, and was only record in Chinese history book. We don't really know if Pimiko really existed.
2:47 Chinese practice of the turtle shell oracles during Shang and Zhou Dynasty. Unsure if the historian was merely projecting his ideals or if it was still practiced in Japan.
I live in Japan. Gosh Japan really did get influenced alot by China. It was no more than agricultural towns and fishing villages 2,000 years ago. Since the middle ages, it flourished into a vibrant and unique Asian cultural sphere
Scientifically impossible. There is also a record in Chinese records that the Chinese longevity has lived over 200 years old. It doesn't mean Japan today. and It has several meanings. It can be classified as a pirate, and is said to mean many things, such as an Asian country people or a poor man.
Long lived but very short, average 120 to 140cm, based on their clothes and houses in ancient Japan. While in ancient China, people are quite normal, Confucius was 196cm based on unearthed local ancient ruler, Yanzi, the shortest ancient Chinese minister, was 158cm.
It might be possible. The Emishi were apparently described as being hairy, meaning the men could’ve had beards. In modern Japan there’s a bias against facial hair, although in the Sengoku period it was common for men to have beards and mustaches, or hige as they’re known in Japanese. In fact for samurai it was necessary for them to have one. Men who couldn’t, like Toyotomi Hideyoshi, had fake beards to wear.
Actually, it's pretty much as the text described. They would pick a man from the untouchables class and he would be the one to inherit all the bad luck during a ship's travels. The reason he couldn't bathe, would be because he'd be washing away all the impurities and bad luck he was accumulating of behalf of the voyage.
@tsunderella I mean she wasn't a sorceress sure, but it's quite possible some Shinto or whatever proto shinto priest "empress" named himiko or the like existed. These are the Chinese writings, the Japanese wouldn't write their first history for another 400 years
yeah but who do you believe more, a "somewhat" contemporary source or something written 400 years after for the sole purpose of showing that Japan and the Japanese emperor were legit?
@B. Parts in the Kojiki and Nihongi reference the History of Wei so she was a conscious omission. Likely either because she belonged to a clan other than the Yamato clan, or because the story of a female ruler didn't fit with the narrative the Imperial court wanted to create. The Kojiki and Nihongi are absolutely Yamato propaganda though, no doubt about that, they're political tools for creating a single official history of Japan that suits the Imperial court.
The people today called the japanese had just arrived on the archipelago a few hundred years before this was written from china. So "for tens of thousands of years" no.
@@andrewlove3686 Something like that wouldn't just evolve over a few generations. Most likely that adaptation was already possessed by the Yamato before they crossed over from Korea or it was possessed by the Joumon and carried over due to ad-mixture.So yes. Tens of Thousands of Years
@@ofthecaribbean no and yes. No as in nothing to do with jomon admixtures because they have very little a lot have zero. life expectancy, iq, neotony, hormone levels, rate of physical maturation, average behaviors etc. come from being apart of the larger east Asian(mongoloid) genetic population. Which Yes did develop over tens of thousands of years just not in japan and completely unrelated to jomon.
Himeko basically means "Sun Woman Child" (the imperial lineage of Japan claimed that they were descendants of Amaterasu, the goddess of the Sun, so the Hi part of Himeko is a family name/title referring to this lineage). There is actually a lot of debate regarding the name. It was likely a title, and that referring to her family name was considered taboo - the Japanese sources on this time period specifically avoided naming rulers, and it is also likely that succeeding dynasties destroyed or altered the history of this time period as a form of propoganda. Another theory is that the "miko" portion of "Pimiko" refers to Miko, or female shamans in Shinto, and that Pimiko's name can be translated to "Sun Shaman". Because we aren't entirely certain how the Chinese characters at the time were actually pronounced, a lot of this is conjecture and guesswork. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Himiko#Interpretations
The reason official crime is low is because your family would be punished if you did something wrong. Therefore families kept members inline. Families probably worked out justice with officials to punish their members so no criminal reports were needed.
1.The location of Yamatai-koku is unknown. If you travel along the route described, you will arrive at the sea in southern Kyushu. For this reason, there has been a 300-year debate since the Edo period(17th to 19th century) as to where Yamatai-koku was located. The specific candidates are Kyushu and Nara, with Nara being the most likely archaeological candidate. 2.About the country name Yamatai The reading of the name has not been determined. Before the Edo period, it was read as Yamato, but since then it has been read as Yamatai-koku (koku means country), after it was argued by scholars of the Edo period that it might be Yamatai. Some scholars argue that it is Yamai or Yamaichi. However, I believe that Yamato is the correct name. Yamato is another name for Japan that has existed since ancient times, and is also used as a name for places and people. It still exists today in the names of places and people. 3.Who is Himiko? The person Himiko is not mentioned in the oldest existing history books in Japan. (The oldest extant history book in Japan is from the 8th century AD). The compiler of the history book refers to the Chinese side of the history book and states in the annotations that "the queen of Japan sent a messenger," but the content of the messenger is that of the empress of the 14th emperor, and it is unclear if the empress is also a real person. There is another theory that Yamato-totohimomosohime may have actually been Himiko, but this is also unknown. She is said to have been a relative of the 10th emperor and a shaman-like figure, and it is mentioned that a huge tomb was built after her death. Radiometric dating suggests that the tomb was built close to the time of Himiko (mid-3rd century AD). 4.The relationship with Yamato-Dynasty Is it related to the dynasties of later times? No? If there is a relationship, what kind of relationship is it? The reason is that writing was not widespread in Japan at the time, and records from Chinese history books have been lost. China was in the era of the Sixteen Kingdoms and did not have time to worry about foreign affairs. It wasn't until the 5th century A.D. that any mention of Japan appeared again, and the Japanese envoy never mentioned the queen or Yamatai-koku. It is a mystery what happened in the 150 years since the messengers stopped coming. For this reason, it is called "the blank fourth century" or "the mysterious fourth century" in Japanese history. Historical books from the 8th century contain the dynasty's traditions, but there are no written materials from the 4th century, making academic verification difficult. Translated by deepl
Ainus were not part of the Kingdom of Wa. The Ainu didn't have any relationship with China. Supposedly China knew of Emishi and Ainu from descriptions given to them by the Yamato Japanese, but I don't know if those accounts came from a bit later. This was written during Japan's Kofun period.
Europeans didn't meet the Japanese until much later, at the end of the 15th century, so the only account from Europeans before that would be Marco Polo talking about how the Chinese told him a country further to the east called Jipangu exists.
Konichiwa! I'm taking a class on Japanese archaeology. There's one thing I'm a bit confused about. So there is this Japanese records that traces the Japanese imperial line to very ancient time. Do you know which one of them are fictional and who was the first, historically accurate emperor of Japan? Thanks for taking your time to do this :)
unrealsimon93 Fistly I explain when empire emarge in Japan and how the fact is ambiguous! Ancient Japan lack their own historical records,therefore We has to see chinese recode of that time because Japan had been under tributary system of China! According to chinese's records empire didn't exist in 1th,2th,3th century.the most important thing is that 4th century's recode don't exist.that mean we can't understand Japan of 4th century!but We can see chinese records about 5th century in「宋書」倭国伝.There was strong political system in Japan of 5th century:Yamato administration(大和政権),so we can't know the process of Yamato administration!The central character of the administration is empire.so We don't know when,where,and why he emarged accurately because we lack 4th century! so the宋書倭国伝 first show empire of Japan. given the fact I can say historically accurate empire began from "Ingyo"(允恭)who exist in chinese records and exist in japanese records in accordance with each other. and 4th century of Japan are lauk. I can't tell whether empire before "Ingyo" are fictional or not accurately!
@@user-go5td2zp4g thanks a lot! Since you mentioned China, I'm also very curious about the relationship between those two countries. From what I learned, Japan learned a lot of things from China and likes to emulate it historically. But if so why are they not friends/allies? Japan seems to want to conquer China all the time and attacking Korea too, which I think was under China's protection? Why was this the case? Did the Japanese people have a particular reason to want to conquer China when China looks much bigger on the map.
@@unrealsimon93 Don't worry. Japanese are more confused than you are. LOL There is a variety of theories about 'from who it became real'. According to the most prevailing theory nowadays the 10th Su-jin and after are real. 2nd to 9th are called like 'missing 8 emperors era'. In this theory, 1st Jin-mu and 10th are the same person as they share common records. This reading is based on historian's study on Kojiki, Nihonshoki, etc. Then , question is what position the archaeology is taking? 21st Yu-ryaku (in 5th century) is allegedly the first emperor whom they can prove the existence of. One thing making it confusing is that in the ancient days they did not use the western calendar, of course. They would use the imperial eras, just like, so do we - current Japanese... It's now Reiwa year 2 on 128th as you may know. neねるさん、差し出がましいコメント、失礼しました。
I’ve been looking around for what the Polish thought about the Mongols. Or when the Christens and Muslim momentarily joined to fight the invasion. And of course when the crusader states and the Mongols joined to attack the Muslims. I can’t seem to find anything on these events.
I'd never heard that detail about the 'mourning keeper' envoy that is either ritualistically rewarded or killed depending on the fortunes of the party. Fascinating (if grisly) stuff.
nope, The records at that time do not mean Japan today. In East Asia, wa is a form of multiple ethnic groups. and It has several meanings. It can be classified as a pirate, and is said to mean many things, such as an Asian country people or a poor man.
Half of the video : "A chinese historian who doesn't have fixation on gems and shiny stones from another country ?!" Reach the end of the video : "Ah ! There it goes !"
