Chisel Plowing | Added Suitcase Weights. Do front weights on a tractor help you plow better? How much front weight does a tractor need to chisel plow effectively? #farmallfanatic #farmall #farming
I got quite a controversial statement that most arnt going to like. No antique tractors or trucks are “better” than the others. It really depends on who you are and what you need. You can prefer an ih, I’m a Deere guy because that is what I prefer, but ain’t nothin wrong with Oliver allis or ih. For someone to just go out and say “oh Deere is better than ih” they’ve probably never owned an ih in their life or operated one. Now some do have their perks, like ih torque amplifiers or fords without live hydrolics or an overrun pto. I like deeres because they are very simple with the two cylinder and they are easy to get attatchments for considering they never had specialty ones like farmall or allis. Not that I wouldn’t love a nice farmall M but I would prefer a Deere A more just because that’s what I think is cool. Just because I like one brand doesn’t mean I don’t like the others. Same goes for trucks. If you are looking for a cheap durable work truck dodge is what you need. If you need something to pull a trailer with that is good on fuel, go get yourself a ford. Now with modern tractors that’s a whole nother story because some are better than others. Tell ya right now kinze makes a better planter than Deere. I love the channel. I hope you never stop making videos. Have a good day. 💥
Kind of reminds me of my dad. For years he farmed with F-20 and B Farmall. Out of nowhere a M Farmall showed up. Giant leap forward. A few years go by and F-20 was gone. Replaced by C Farmall. Giant leap forward again. Super M showed up. Wow, 3 tractors. 450 showed up. First M was gone. Able to do field work in hours instead of days. Mostly what I see in your recent purchases is just how amazed you see what more power can do for you. Just like my dad. Getting advice from so many people can be good or bad. Depends all on what works and what works for you. I enjoy your videos. Most of all I enjoy how you set up your equipment for your use. Thanks
I'm a Deere guy,grew up with them,owned them and love them,but I'm not going to bash anybody because of the color of the paint.I just like to watch and hear tractors at work.Keep up the good work.
We always chisel plowed at a angle and then deep disked at a slightly different angle. That's what breaks up the big clodes and then likely disk the direction of planting for a great seadbed.
If you really want to turn some dirt with the chisel, put some 3” twisted shovels on. But it will pull harder. A mounted spike tooth harrow would really smooth it out.
We used a similar chisel plow. Works great when you get it deep in the ground. Loosens up all the compacted ground and loosens it up for the disc. You're gonna like the results better than a plow probably. Helps with those wet spots in the fields of PA.
826 sounding good ,nice chisel plow ,mine is 3 point it works great ,draft control work really well on my set-up for depth control ,you got yours set-up well ,forsure disking after first ripping will take out the bounce on the plow ,great video and the front weights and hubs look good bud .
When we chisel plowed at the dairy farm we went on a slight angle compared to how it would be planted then disked the opposite angle. But sod would either get chiseled twice or disked twice.
I really enjoyed watching the video! I'm sure by this season you will know what method works best and have a plan next year using the chisel plow. I would think plowed in the Fall then chiseled in the Spring would be the most ideal situation. Thanks for sharing and have a great day!
I really enjoy your videos, Im originally from Mercer county,PA and grew up on a small dairy farm. Hearing those Farmall tractors take me back in time, First tractor I drove was a 606 , We had a H but didn't use it for much, running the blower filling silo or cultivator duty and had a blade for snow on the front. Last tractor I was operating was a Hydro 70 that was a great tractor in my opinion. Take care and thank you for letting me hear those Farmall tractors
I sure do love hearing that diesel! Always happy when you upload videos :) I’ve got a 4020 diesel (John Deere) and I love the sound of it. I’ve got a couple of cubs, and boy are they useful. Hope the best for your garden this year!
I don't know about you, but my old hip bones just still hurt after a full days plowing until they finally get Field Tough every year. That ground should dress out great after disking. Great progress on the tractor update. Bill
Excellent video Geno :) also may sounds weird but I remember some years chisel then disk to plow and other years sometime plow then disk no chisel needed when farm with my dad also uncle too with them! Think depending on type ground dirt type farm have and moisture water had with it from Winter and Spring Season started up !
I didn’t get to watch the first video but we would pull a wooden drag behind a disk to help level and break up clumps behind the disk it helped tremendously all without an extra trip thru the field
We used the chisel to stir the top 5 or 6 inches. This would mix the grain stubble in so we could plow down a blended soil profile instead of plowing down a mat layer of organic matter. A 3pt 55 chisel plow 11 shanks, 966 in what we called 5th gear, hi range 1st TA forward. No suitcase weights 18.4-R38 duals, no rear weights. Pulled great for years.
The biggest IH tractor we had was an early 706 diesel with the lesser diesel engine and clamshell fenders, narrow front and quick hitch. We did have the 3pt conversion parts. It was a good tractor for us in Sandy central Wisconsin. Pulled 4-16 semi mounted plow easily. We baked hay a lot with it as well. Never had any problems with the engine. The parking brake pawl gave way while the tractor was moving and took out a bunch of gears. To me, that’s just a stupid parking brake design . Let’s set the parking brake by jambing some iron in the transmission gears. Overall it though it was a good tractor for us
Excellent video 👍 just purely an observation based on your comments re discing before ripping watching the ripper from the good ground level camera the ripper is bouncing in and out of the ground as it hits the clumps from previous pass 🤔 looking forward to more experiments, 826 surely runs so sweet 👍 possibly if that tractor was only used for hay work the engine will surely benefit from some good old cultivation work 💪💪💪Red Power 💥
I watched this video 1 more time and noticed that the chisel plow is not really that deep as the tires are caring it all the time. The wheels should only be used so it can not go to deep but not to carry it through the fields.
We use a disk chisel. It saves you from having to disk before chiseling, and it saves you from plugging up, and you only need to chisel once. Tailor way made a nice heavy seven shank disk chisel . We now have a John Deere nine shank disk chisel.
Here we call them deep tillage cultivators. We always pull harrows behind them and it helps a lot with smooth. We don't dare disc in our clay ground that much otherwise it's too fine and becomes concrete. Now your Farmall M (Not Super MTA) will not only pull 7 shanks but will pull them deeper than you think it will. The Super MTA will of course handle it better, but the M will do it. We don't use the suitcase weights at all here. The primary purpose of suitcase weights is to counterbalance mounted implements. For drawbar work, they're seldom necessary.
Hey FF,,,we pulled the same thing with a SMTAD in Iowa black dirt. No problem,,just don't go crazy deep. That said,few things prettier than disced,then hit it with the 3 bottom little genius.
The object is to work the ground as little as possible. Less expense per acre the more profit from the crop. Also the more you drive over the ground the more compaction you have. Duels will let you work ground a bit more wet but it does spread out the compaction. It's just me but I would have brought out the disc after the chisel. The more you chisel the lumpy it becomes. Still I believe your going down a foot where you used to plow 6 to 8 inches so you are breaking up dirt so the rain can drain the the roots can go down in the ground. From the video I didn't notice any wheel slippage. You need a bigger plow or you need to put something else behind the plow.
It seems like all the IH diesels drink a little oil even if they dont leak it. Spring and fall when the 856 racks up 15-20 hours a week I usually have to add a couple quarts a week. 560 is the same way in the summer with hay.
With all the green growing on that land, you might have saved yourself some time hitting it with the moldboard plow first. Then just a single trip with the disk would likely be all you would have needed before pulling in with the planter.
Well that's what's normally done here but i'm trying something different. I just bought this 826 and chisel plow.. so i'm definitely going to play with it
You should be pulling some harrows be hide it or tine mount harrows on the cultivator after if you cultivate go to wide sweep shovels .When we go over fields spike it deep with wide spikesthen disc it then after or all summer wide shoels on cult with tine harros mounted on cult all summer we all ways have harrows on cult even spiking does a nice job saves the kiddneys on the second trip but if you spike first then dic its smooth after that on our disc we pull it deepas we can we have tine harrow s on the disc as well and pull a set of coil type packers behinde the disc does a wouderfull job
I like all your videos and watch alot of them but am sure I missed some. I always wonder why you seem to use the 756 very seldom. Is it a gas hog or just not a tractor you care for much? I had a 656 diesel years ago and loved it but traded it for a new tractor and have always wished I had kept it. It was comfortable, easy to operate, super easy on fuel, and a real powerhouse. So am just curious why you don't use your 756 much?
Yeah dude. You'll be alright if you've got power steering. I always get reminded of that Massy Harris 33 without power steering and trying to disc after the clay ground was plowed. It would spin that steering wheel right out of your hands. It was an arm breaker. The ones complaining about the too much talk have a bit of a problem with critical thinking. Patience grass hopper.
My neighbor (sprays) first, kills all the grass??? No clumps. Do you think this is better way instead ?? Do you think it’s better than just plowing. Seems like you have a mess with all of this grass???
@@FarmallFanatic on my 55 7 shank I have the 3 inch twist points does a great job behind my 450 gas , the first row of shanks I have the twist so both are throwing the dirt out then the middle row of two throwing the dirt in the back row the outside shanks throwing dirt out the middle shank on back row I left just the straight point like you have on it now does a nice even job and covers nice
That would make sense to me just by looking at the two different machines, the discs would be more like a finer finish and I don't know about this type of work.
Should custom a turbo... you might make 110pto hp. You should be able to pull a 10 shank chisel plow. For now you should be able to pull 9 shank fine. Got to add the duals. My 74 case 1270 hub duals 135pto hp I'm able to pull 11 shank krause chisel plow 8 inches in the ground at 2100rpm pto rated..
@@FarmallFanatic that's ur call... me personally if I want to pull a 20ft disc, 24ft field cultivator and a 10 shank chisel. I'd look for a 1086 with duals.. 130pto hp you can pull as much implements as what a 150 and 180 pto hp tractor can pull... dad had a 1066 it was a nice tractor pulling a 15ft jd disc.. I brought my 1270 for a good price. But I had to rebuilt the powershift along with new starter, hydraulic couplers.. I'd get ih. But there just too expensive to buy...
Someone really said you talk too much in YOUR videos? On YOUR channel? Wow. What are you supposed to do? Maybe he needs to leverage the closed caption feature. 😂😂😂 BTW. Did you find plowing in other direction necessary? I think it will disc up fine, but you are definitely in for a rough ride. 😂😂😂