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Choosing the RIGHT grafting technique | FRUIT TREE SPRING GRAFTING 

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How do I choose the BEST GRAFTING TECHNIQUE for each fruit tree grafting situation? A dozen of grafting examples will show you how I decide which is the best spring grafting technique to use for each grafting job, when grafting fruit trees.
Table of contents:
0:00 - Intro
1. Grafting in the Spring - 0:07
2. The 3 most used Spring Grafting Techniques - 1:20
3. Grafting situations - Choosing the right grafting technique - 2:21
3b. Grafting Older Rootstocks - 4:30
3c. Grafting Established Rootstocks - 6:12
4. Grafting Results and Follow-Up - 7:24
5. More information on each grafting technique - 8:00
Links for videos covering other grafting techniques in the channel:
Wedge Grafting - • WHEN to use WEDGE GRAF...
Whip and Tongue Grafting - • The BEST GRAFTING tech...
Chip-Budding - • CHIP-BUD EASY GRAFTING...
Bark Grafting - • GRAFTING 8 FRUIT TREES...
Patch Grafting - • Grafting Fruit Trees |...
Inverted T-Budding - • GRAFTING PEACH, PLUM, ...
Lateral Bark Grafting - • LATERAL BARK Grafting ...
7 Main Reasons why grafts Fail - • 7 COMMON GRAFTING MIST...
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@JSacadura
@JSacadura 2 месяца назад
How to I choose the right grafting technique when grafting in the spring? Improve your graft success by selecting the right technique for the job in each grafting situation. These videos require lots of time and effort to make. Show me your appreciation by Liking the video and Leaving a Comment. Share the video and, if you haven’t already, consider subscribing the channel to help me make more videos. Thanks for watching.
@nihatsavmaz6677
@nihatsavmaz6677 2 месяца назад
I love your work. It is basicaly free Education on a high Level. Thank you.God bless you.
@JeffMulongo
@JeffMulongo 23 дня назад
Hi. Thanks for all you are doing with the videos. How can i contact you further through email for business concerns. I have looked around for your contact but failed in vain . Thanks. Hope to hear from you soon
@GrowsGoneWild
@GrowsGoneWild 2 месяца назад
It wouldn’t be spring without a JSacadura grafting video!
@JSacadura
@JSacadura 2 месяца назад
I'm glad you like my videos. Thanks for the comment.
@robertmcbride6931
@robertmcbride6931 2 месяца назад
The last two years I have been successfully grafting using the techniques I learned from your videos. Thanks for posting them.
@JSacadura
@JSacadura 2 месяца назад
Great to hear! Thanks for the comment.
@greendruid33
@greendruid33 2 месяца назад
Still one of the best channels for grafting and general fruit production. Thank you for continuing to do these videos!
@JSacadura
@JSacadura 2 месяца назад
My pleasure! Thanks for the nice comment.
@nelsonsilva7280
@nelsonsilva7280 2 месяца назад
@@JSacadura Hello J. Sacadura. I live in the suburbs of Aveiro. Your vídeos on Grafting have been very helpful to me! Here in Beira Litoral, I am able to produce fruit on exotic trees from the Américas, like Annonas, Surinam cherry, Avocados, Guavas, and others that are able to tolerate LIGHT frosts (Just down to 1, 0° Celsius),
@nelsonsilva7280
@nelsonsilva7280 2 месяца назад
@@JSacadura ..But I also have traditional Portuguese fruit trees, like plums, peaches, apples, oranges, loquats, etc.,
@nelsonsilva7280
@nelsonsilva7280 2 месяца назад
@@JSacadura would you please be so kind as to tell me the name of your yellow kiwi varieties, Female varieties and the adequate Male varieties to polinize them. Obrigado pela sua atenção.
@thegoat9672
@thegoat9672 2 месяца назад
I am glad to see you in good health, thank you for the new video) thanks to your advice, this spring I have already grafted more than 50 trees, most of which have taken root and are developing well! And last year's vaccinations already have ovaries of apples, apricots, peaches and plums, cherries and pears also bloomed. Please shoot a video about how you root cuttings of apple trees and other trees.🙏🏻Thank you!
@JSacadura
@JSacadura 2 месяца назад
Doing better, thanks. I'm currently filming a "how to root cuttings" video that applies to several different fruit types. It should be available in a couple of months.
@thegoat9672
@thegoat9672 2 месяца назад
@@JSacadura Oh, great, I'm looking forward to it!
@jeronimochavezmaya3730
@jeronimochavezmaya3730 2 месяца назад
​@@JSacadurame gustaría saber si los kaqui están en ése proyecto. Gracias
@paul.1337
@paul.1337 2 месяца назад
I did my first grafts this year and had great success with the whip and tongue and cleft grafts. My bud grafts still need some practice.
@JSacadura
@JSacadura 2 месяца назад
You'll get there. Practice makes perfect. Thanks for the comment.
@MichelNehme
@MichelNehme 2 месяца назад
I'm so happy to see you again and in good health 🙏, and again thank you for sharing new videos with us. Valuable informations
@JSacadura
@JSacadura 2 месяца назад
I'm doing better, thanks for the concern and the comment.
@Detour4it
@Detour4it 2 месяца назад
Thanks for the great video, your time, effort, and education 👍
@JSacadura
@JSacadura 2 месяца назад
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for the comment.
@PeterEntwistle
@PeterEntwistle 2 месяца назад
Great video! The whip and tongue graft is one I’ve yet to try, but definitely looks worth looking into. I’ve had great success with just the regular cleft graft on a lot of trees.
@JSacadura
@JSacadura 2 месяца назад
Cleft works fine as long as you make sure the cambium lines of scion and rootstock cross at some point. Whip and tongue is more difficult to execute but it's almost impossible to fail cambium cross at some point.
@swingswang9214
@swingswang9214 2 месяца назад
I just love your videos, they give me the confidence to experiment with different techniques. This year I used a modified whip & tongue technique on 50 apple rootstocks that I never got round to grafting last year with 100% success.
@serraaurelien4999
@serraaurelien4999 2 месяца назад
The best grafting channel, no question ! Thank you
@JSacadura
@JSacadura 2 месяца назад
You're welcome! Thanks for the nice comment.
@innerjon
@innerjon 2 месяца назад
Love watching your videos!!! You have the best videos on RU-vid for grafting. Please keep the videos coming.
@dieWeg
@dieWeg Месяц назад
Thank you for great content.
@katu6886
@katu6886 2 месяца назад
Thank you for all videos what you have made and upload to your channel. Those encourage me to try apple grafting with good success. Now I have made 100+ grafting to my future apple orchard here in Finland. All the best to you.
@cervasaman1
@cervasaman1 2 месяца назад
Awesome as always!
@JSacadura
@JSacadura 2 месяца назад
Glad you liked it! Thanks for the comment.
@nallelymendoza8571
@nallelymendoza8571 2 месяца назад
Thank you for all the great content you produce. I have learned a lot from watching your videos.
@sludgegulper
@sludgegulper 2 месяца назад
Thank you so much for taking the time to make these videos, they're so helpful and highly recommended..
@JSacadura
@JSacadura 2 месяца назад
I'm glad you enjoy them. Thanks for the comment.
@ihadtochangename2658
@ihadtochangename2658 2 месяца назад
Truly informative.
@I.L.-cx4fy
@I.L.-cx4fy Месяц назад
Hello! I've learned grafting mostly from your videos, thanks! Overall, I have more successful grafts than failed.
@elenaantunes1263
@elenaantunes1263 2 месяца назад
Thanks to you I suceesfully grafted a necterine branch on to a peach tree here in central Portugal!! Thanks so much for your excellent videos!! Muito obrigado pelos videos excelentes!!
@seowriter
@seowriter 2 месяца назад
Thank you again for sharing your expert skills in grafting. Your videos are always very informative and helpful!
@JSacadura
@JSacadura 2 месяца назад
You're welcome. Thanks for the comment.
@jerryorange4498
@jerryorange4498 2 месяца назад
I always long for your next video. Thank you for sharing your valuable knowledge 🤗
@JSacadura
@JSacadura 2 месяца назад
I'm glad you like my videos. Thanks for the comment.
@DanielCallahan-qu4pj
@DanielCallahan-qu4pj 2 месяца назад
Thank you for sharing all your knowledge
@JSacadura
@JSacadura 2 месяца назад
My pleasure! Thanks for the comment.
@strlen6441
@strlen6441 2 месяца назад
This is so good, thank you.🥰
@JSacadura
@JSacadura 2 месяца назад
You’re welcome 😊
@mustafakarakurt1466
@mustafakarakurt1466 2 месяца назад
super teknik cok guzel merci
@TheMws1
@TheMws1 2 месяца назад
Thank you for teaching me several grafting techniques .My success rate is about 75 % on rootstocks as I have a problem with Fire Blight .
@didierdurieux6327
@didierdurieux6327 2 месяца назад
J’apprécie beaucoup vos vidéos. Elles sont parfaitement expliquées et très claires. De surcroît, vous montrez de nombreuses techniques avec des exemples et leurs résultats. Merci 🙏
@JSacadura
@JSacadura 2 месяца назад
Je suis contente que mes vidéos vous plaisent. Merci pour le gentil commentaire.
@bob_frazier
@bob_frazier 2 месяца назад
Beautiful viseo!
@JSacadura
@JSacadura 2 месяца назад
Thank you! Cheers!
@Watan_ki_mitti
@Watan_ki_mitti 2 месяца назад
Good work
@miguelangelalonsomartin2411
@miguelangelalonsomartin2411 2 месяца назад
Siempre contenido de calidad
@paulsonkk7376
@paulsonkk7376 Месяц назад
Very nice 👌excellent work ❤❤❤
@roshnimoses5055
@roshnimoses5055 2 месяца назад
Thanks sir.
@damiang6342
@damiang6342 2 месяца назад
Son los mejores videos y técnicas de injertado que he podido encontrar en años de busqueda. Mis agradecimientos y felicitaciones!
@JSacadura
@JSacadura 2 месяца назад
Me alegra que le gusten. Gracias por el comentario.
@jorgeduquetube
@jorgeduquetube 2 месяца назад
Excelente. Grande abraço Jaime
@JSacadura
@JSacadura 2 месяца назад
Obrigado, Jorge. Abraço.
@tarfap.kpamber9732
@tarfap.kpamber9732 2 месяца назад
Your work is simply adorable.
@JSacadura
@JSacadura 2 месяца назад
Glad you like it! Thanks for the comment.
@monptjardin320
@monptjardin320 2 месяца назад
nice job
@ylmazaydn
@ylmazaydn 2 месяца назад
Çok teşekkür ederim.
@roshnimoses5055
@roshnimoses5055 2 месяца назад
Thank you sir for the descriptive illustration and explanation.I am new to your video and enjoying your presentation and wish I had encountered your video long back to avoid so many spurious presentations in grafting wasting my time and effort.Closing in gratitude - Rajesh S Moses. India.
@MasiMoreno
@MasiMoreno 2 месяца назад
Thank you
@JSacadura
@JSacadura 2 месяца назад
You're welcome!
@PainNoire
@PainNoire 2 месяца назад
Merci.
@matthewking2209
@matthewking2209 2 месяца назад
Thanks for sharing, I have not seen you on ourfigs in a long time.
@JSacadura
@JSacadura 2 месяца назад
Not enough time to do it all. Something's got to give. I hope to have more time in the near future and I will probably return to some of the fruit tree forums. Thanks for the comment.
@bertbert2725
@bertbert2725 2 месяца назад
good information about grafting evergreens like loquat and olives are hard to find. maybe not the grafting technique itself but when to get scionwood, when to graft, how to keep the scionwood...
@hypexzombie7908
@hypexzombie7908 Месяц назад
If I have a sour orange tree could I cut the stump and bark graft multiple different citrus scions straight onto that stump using the bark graft?
@muhammadjaved8137
@muhammadjaved8137 2 месяца назад
Nice
@JSacadura
@JSacadura 2 месяца назад
Thanks!
@raisedindade1
@raisedindade1 2 месяца назад
You deserve a comment.
@kylediffusion9879
@kylediffusion9879 2 месяца назад
Great video! What kind of grafting tape is that? The black one you use
@nommindymple6241
@nommindymple6241 2 месяца назад
Could you make another video on shaping/pruning young fig trees? I'm not sure how to shape them.
@JSacadura
@JSacadura 2 месяца назад
It's better to prune them while they are dormant, so I can only do it at the end of the year. In most cases just keep the center of the tree open and prune any branch that grow excessively high to keep the tree under control. Most of the techniques I use in this video regarding Open Center Pruning can be used in fig trees - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Y8Qg1Z-c_U4.html
@jackancenys574
@jackancenys574 2 месяца назад
Pratiquez vous la greffe en sifflet ? Quelle est la meilleure technique pour le noter ? Bravo pour vos vidéos
@farhadalavimehr
@farhadalavimehr 2 месяца назад
❤❤❤
@charliedanielson4970
@charliedanielson4970 Месяц назад
I need your advice. I’m good at grafting apples but have poor results with pears. Are there special techniques for grafting pears?
@yochanontheseeker1942
@yochanontheseeker1942 Месяц назад
Do you have a video on grafting persimmons?
@cosminbrad4966
@cosminbrad4966 2 месяца назад
🇷🇴🙋👏👌👍 - from Romania
@TaVolga
@TaVolga 2 месяца назад
🌿🌿🔥🔥👍👍
@StuffandThings_
@StuffandThings_ 2 месяца назад
What are your thoughts on chip budding in spring? I know its more of a late season technique but it can be useful for wonky scionwood or just stretching out your supplies. I have plans to graft a Che onto a small potted Osage orange rootstock this way soon.
@JSacadura
@JSacadura 2 месяца назад
I use chip budding a lot in the spring. It works quite well. I even use the chip bud from the lower part of the scion (that would be discarded when making the cut for other types of graft).
@miguelguerreiro5280
@miguelguerreiro5280 2 месяца назад
Sacadura, a nomenclatura portuguesa é de "cavalo" e "cavaleiro" para as duas partes do enxerto? Ou há outros nomes?
@gw8331
@gw8331 2 месяца назад
I have a question that i hope you dont mind me asking. I was wondering what type of tape is the black tape you use. It doesnt appear to be electric tape. Also... is that regular parafilm you are using? I watch your videos many times over and over again. Thank you for teaching us. Thank you for helping those that would otherwise not know where to start. Your videos give me confidence!
@mirtilourbano
@mirtilourbano 2 месяца назад
Absolutely top quality grafting videos - thank you for sharing your immense knowledge Mr. Sacadura! Do you know of any forum/ group for us Portuguese wannabe grafters to exchange fruit tree grafts? I am in the Minho region and, apart from having a huge desire to start playing with my father in law's poorly managed orchard, I am also trying to get my mother a "cu de burro" apple variety to help her reconnect to her infancy. Any tips on where to find good Portuguese traditional fruit scions? Obrigado, Miguel.
@JSacadura
@JSacadura 2 месяца назад
Unfortunately, I am removed from the exchange forums nowadays (lack of time) and don't know any in Portugal. Although I believe there are some portuguese facebook communities that might help, like this one - facebook.com/groups/Enxertias.podas.estacaria/?locale=pt_BR
@hbtraveller4709
@hbtraveller4709 2 месяца назад
Perfect 👌🏻
@JSacadura
@JSacadura 2 месяца назад
Glad you liked it! Thanks for the comment.
@I.L.-cx4fy
@I.L.-cx4fy Месяц назад
You mostly talk about changing varieties, when you cut off all of the rootstock after the graft takes. Could you make a video on framework grafting (when you are happy with what you have, just want to add more)? For example, threre is a young but estsblished pluot tree with 4 varieties, and you would like to add a 5th pluot or a plum variety to this tree, without removing any of the existing ones. How to make this addition grow well? A lot of people have smaller yards, not farms :), and would like to add, not replace! Thanks!
@rsnikwad
@rsnikwad 2 месяца назад
Thank you as always for your great demonstration and tips on grafting. What is the black stretchy tape you use?
@sonicsurfer4994
@sonicsurfer4994 2 месяца назад
That's what I also would like to know.
@JSacadura
@JSacadura 2 месяца назад
It's a self-vulcanizing rubber tape of a generic brand. You can find it at Amazon.
@rsnikwad
@rsnikwad 2 месяца назад
@@JSacadura many thanks.
@alfredopampanga9356
@alfredopampanga9356 2 месяца назад
Excellent video. Quick question….on one of the bark grafts it appears as if the long , sloping cut faces outwards not facing the rootstock. Is this a mistake? btw how sharp are your knives. ? Shaving sharp? Do you use sharpening stones? What’s your final grit size? Stopping as well?
@JSacadura
@JSacadura 2 месяца назад
No, it's not a mistake. That outward cut won't do nothing regarding the graft union. It's just to slim down the scion to produce a better fit under the bark. Check my videos on grafting knife use, selection and sharpening, like these two (ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--AsaxoqzU88.html and ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5cdNElL5YHI.html). They will probably answer all your questions.
@alfredopampanga9356
@alfredopampanga9356 2 месяца назад
@@JSacadura Many thanks Great videos
@roshnimoses5055
@roshnimoses5055 2 месяца назад
Sir can you teach us rose bud grafting and other grafting technique of grafting for rose propogation.Thank you.Rajesh Moses.
@gregwmanning
@gregwmanning 2 месяца назад
You make it look so easy What are the two types of tape used?
@someoneinthecrowd4313
@someoneinthecrowd4313 2 месяца назад
The black tape is self vulcanizing rubber tape. The translucent tape is parafilm. The first one you will find in hardware stores in the plumbing department, the second one I've only had luck finding online on hobby sites.
@alfredopampanga9356
@alfredopampanga9356 2 месяца назад
@@someoneinthecrowd4313Anol inner tube cut in trips works well
@alfredopampanga9356
@alfredopampanga9356 2 месяца назад
An old *
@rv2480
@rv2480 2 месяца назад
Thank you for all your time and effort in making these videos! They have helped me immensely! I was wondering, how long can you keep dormant scions in the fridge before they aren't viable?
@JSacadura
@JSacadura 2 месяца назад
You can get away with 2 months, in most cases. After that, it depends on fruit type, but most will not be in a condition that will allow graft success. I have grafted scions successfully after 4 months in the fridge, but they are the exception.
@rv2480
@rv2480 2 месяца назад
@@JSacadura Wow much longer than I expected, that's great to know! Thank you!
@patrickmerlo4450
@patrickmerlo4450 2 месяца назад
👍👍👋
@isabellekeyzer
@isabellekeyzer 2 месяца назад
how do you know that the branches are still dormant?
@nikomangelmann6054
@nikomangelmann6054 2 месяца назад
i wonder if someone tried the saddle graft (turned around cleft graft)? i got some succsess with same diameter rootstock/scion on different fruit trees. i learned it by experimenting, but there is not much information about it.
@JSacadura
@JSacadura 2 месяца назад
It's quite effective and still used in some traditional nurseries.
@mjollnyr77
@mjollnyr77 2 месяца назад
Boa noite. Eu enxertei nespereira o ano passado na primavera com whip and tongue com algum sucesso. No entanto notei que mal se corta o porta enxerto ou o garfo ele oxida muito rápido. Isto é normal nas nespereiras? Também fiquei com a ideia que o whip and tongue não resulta bem em garfos mais grossos com cerca de 1cm. Fiz uns quantos em macieira e os que pegaram foram os mais finos com 6 ou 7mm de espessura.É necessário fazer alguma compensação para diâmetros maiores?
@JSacadura
@JSacadura 2 месяца назад
A nespereira oxida muito rapidamente. Isso é normal. Os cortes devem ser executados o mais rápido possível, devido a isso. Em macieira, para diâmetros maiores, a fenda modificada e o enxerto de coroa tendem a funcionar melhor. O whip and tongue é mais complicado de executar com diâmetros maiores e é necessário fazer cortes mais curtos para encaixarem bem.
@mjollnyr77
@mjollnyr77 2 месяца назад
@@JSacadura Há alguma coisa que se possa fazer para mitigar o oxidar rápido dos biseis na nespereira? Borrifar com água é boa ideia ou vai dificultar o pegar do enxerto? Entao o truque para diametros maiores é fazer uma lingueta mais curta? Acho que faz sentido...
@luigigiunta2400
@luigigiunta2400 2 месяца назад
What kind of graft is possible when the scion is much larger than the root stock?
@JSacadura
@JSacadura 2 месяца назад
The Z-Graft. I really have to make a video on this one, as people ask me that question a lot.
@banglagarden7521
@banglagarden7521 2 месяца назад
Nec your grafting❤❤ I'm Bangali
@JSacadura
@JSacadura 2 месяца назад
Thanks!
@banglagarden7521
@banglagarden7521 2 месяца назад
@@JSacadura welcome ❤️❤️❤️
@user-jl1sc9xm7n
@user-jl1sc9xm7n 2 месяца назад
Здравствуйте❤ спасибо за видео,очень красиво и интересно рассказываете .Благодарю😂👍🤝
@JSacadura
@JSacadura 2 месяца назад
You're welcome. Thanks for the comment.
@abidmajeed8651
@abidmajeed8651 2 месяца назад
Hi want to know what black tape u r using?
@JSacadura
@JSacadura 2 месяца назад
A self-vulcanizing rubber tape. You can find it in Amazon.
@krishnaveni7658
@krishnaveni7658 2 месяца назад
Graft idea on tomato plants on tree
@Bird-xl8bt
@Bird-xl8bt 2 месяца назад
Sir i did grafting and they were successful new leaves were grown but when i open the cover from the scion the grown leaves Died why is so
@JSacadura
@JSacadura 2 месяца назад
Probably the vascular tissues of the graft could not provide nutrition to the scion. I tend to leave the cover a bit more (slightly open) to protect it from direct sun in the first week. Better luck next time.
@raisedindade1
@raisedindade1 2 месяца назад
Bro, how do to make those cuts like that? My knife must suck.
@JSacadura
@JSacadura 2 месяца назад
The knife has to be very sharp. Otherwise the grafts tend to fail and you increase the chances of cutting yourself. Check my videos on the use and sharpening of grafting knives, like these two (ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--AsaxoqzU88.html and ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5cdNElL5YHI.html)
@basharatmaqboolthoker5848
@basharatmaqboolthoker5848 2 месяца назад
Name of your fig scion species
@raisedindade1
@raisedindade1 2 месяца назад
Another comment: beat grafting videos on yt
@LEGOLAS-xi2ew
@LEGOLAS-xi2ew 2 месяца назад
strap grafting is better than bark grafting
@JSacadura
@JSacadura 2 месяца назад
The bark graft works just fine without that extra strap. Doesn't seem necessary, in most cases.
@user-mk5lw5rf5w
@user-mk5lw5rf5w 2 месяца назад
Дякую за відео, більше цікавить виноград. Вітання з України!
@JSacadura
@JSacadura 2 месяца назад
You have several videos on grafting grapes in the channel. Check these 2 videos - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-XHvcreBnQYI.html and ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3aW9QwGVcac.html ___________________________________________________________________ У вас на каналі є кілька відео про щеплення винограду. Перегляньте ці 2 відео - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-XHvcreBnQYI.html and ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3aW9QwGVcac.html
@mOE--pe3iz
@mOE--pe3iz 2 месяца назад
Hope you and your family are well @JSacadura
@JSacadura
@JSacadura 2 месяца назад
I'm doing better! Thanks for the comment and the concern.
@JeffMulongo
@JeffMulongo 23 дня назад
Hi. Thanks for all you are doing with the videos. How can i contact you further through email for business concerns. I have looked around for your contact but failed in vain . Thanks. Hope to hear from you soon Greetings from Uganda , East Africa
@hakankocyigit7832
@hakankocyigit7832 2 месяца назад
Hile yapıyorsun, Ağaçları kandırıyorsun
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