it totally annoys me when I hear wannabe snobs say bad things about the band like it's dumbed down cock rock. The joke is on them because they never bothered to listen before they judged. Just look at their influences (Howe, Lifeson, DiMeola, Page, Gilmour, Holdsworth, and on and on). Great players. And Robert is a top notch bass player and writer.
GmanMusic Part of his genius is his creativity in the studio at playing rhythm in both channels and not just doubling his parts. He’s typically doing something different in each speaker. Not to mention he made a conscious effort to add something distinctive in one channel over the other in the second verse whenever possible.
My thoughts exactly! Very zeppelinesq type riffs & chords at times.. That's why I've always loved that band and especially the DeLeo brothers playing. Good stuff! 😎
Was gonna say the exact same thing. Really nothing to add except I respect both their playing. They each have a unique style and musicians can learn a lot from studying their songs.
Robert writes a lot of stps songs but I'm more than positive he doesn't come up with the specific chord voicings that deleo uses. songs like "Ride the Cliche" and "7 caged tigers" feature crazy ass chords and progressions and they were written by dean. They both can play guitar but I would wager that when Robert comes up with riffs Dean is still using his own chord voicings on the tunes
@@chriskrueger1865 progressions aren't the same as chord voicings. you can have a complex progression played with simple chords. I 100 percent know that dean has is own vocabulary of complex chords because there's a ton of songs written by just him with crazy chords in them. not to mention hes talked in many interviews about where his chord voicings come from and his influences. Robert is a great songwriter, but you're out of your mind if you think he's teaching dean how to play chords 😂
M T The Talk Show record would be a great album for this kind of analysis. Really advanced chordal vocab on that one. I want to see him try to explain the 2nd chord in the verses of Ring Twice. F#7(b9, 11)/C#? I don’t think that’s even a thing.
People that consider them a power chord type band haven t heard Adhesive or those kind of song, or just their ear isn’t trained enough. On their third album they played very sophisticated progression.
The F# chord (aka F# Lydian chord) is my favorite 90's chord. Here are a few examples: 1) Stone Temple Pilots- Dead & Bloated, 2) Alice & Chains - Roster, 3) Porno for Pyros - Pets, 4) Rollins Band - Low Self Opinion, 5) Shift - So Avail
The power of true stp was mixing led zeppelin dancing days and revolution by the beatles. In fact they touched those covers. The third album is pure lennon easter eggs. I'm lovin 'it!
Robert DeLeo does not get the credit he deserves for his part in writing some of their biggest hits: Plush, Interstate Love Song, etc. That dude is a genius, and such a cool-looking bass player.
Dean was so incredibly lucky to have a collaborator such as ROBERT DELEO♪♫ such a great Guitarist songwriter, and awesome bass player! They both worked so well together, plus all in STP
Great lesson! I don't know if you've heard of Trip the Witch, but it's a project between Dean DeLeo and session guitarist Tom Bukovac and is full of great chords, melodies, and interwoven guitar parts. A Chordplay lesson on that project would be badass!
My favorite song this band ever wrote is Big Empty. The jazzy bossa nova chords with the blues slide guitar has a super interesting flavor and the chords that are used after the chorus when he sings “conversations kill” are absolutely genius.
Finally someone focuses on how much deeper STP's music is than they're given credit for. Robert is an awesome bass player. He plays so melodically yet heavy. Trippin On A hole In A Paper Heart has really creative bass lines snaking through it. Dean's big chords helped them fill the air musically with a huge sound. The drumming of Dean Krets, I know his last name uses a different letter but my keyboard doesn't work. I met Robert a handful of times and he was totally cool. Just a regular guy as he called himself. They are way more than the morons that claimed they were a grunge imitator of Pearl Jam, great in their own right but different.
@18:27 Actually Dean plays that first D chord with the A on the 5th fret of the 6th string as the root while muting the A string, then he shifts to the B flat maj9 as you play it, but the crazy part is how he frets those cords, he frets both chords with his ring finger on the 6th string while shifting the other 3 fingers between chords. Thanks for giving STP and the deleo bros the recognition they deserve, I'm just discovering your channel and I can't stop watching your videos, you are great!
Dean really taught me to not be afraid to grab an expensive chord here and there. He's definitely underrated and every guitarist should learn and study the songs he crafted with his brother and STP
Dean is one of the true great guitar geniuses of the 90s. What stood out about him was that he was so different than everyone else in the 90s. Their music stands the test of time. Great video.
I remember watching them live on MTV in 94 doing Pretty Penny when the stage was set up with a couch and chair. I was 15 years old. I knew then that they were different than the other bands around that time. I listened to them before that, but I fell in love with them on that night. Dean and Robert are amazing together.
The F#11 chord is unofficially officially known in guitar circles as the Hemispheres chord. This chord opens Rush's 1978 album Hemispheres and is featured predominately throughout the song. I'm a huge Rush nerd and I definitely hear a Rush influence in the music off STP. Alex Lifeson probably got this chord from somewhere but he was the first person I ever heard play it.
Love this. Maybe a sequel (there's so many interesting chord patterns in their songs!)? Big Empty, Pretty Penny, Lady Picture Show, Days of the Week, Big Bang Baby, etc. Cheers!
Deleo is a wizard and a true musician. I remember seeing them are the time they were writing for the 2nd album and it started raining and the other guys wanted to split but his enthusiasm was off the hook! That's when I became interest in him. Chordmeister.
Another cool example of interesting STP chords is from their song "Daisy" (I believe that the song is really all Robert's). I made a home recording of it some time back and really worked to get the correct voicings.
I saw him when he was with Talk Show (STP without Weiland more or less) in Albuquerque in 1998. He was amazing, band was great, but his playing that night has stuck in my mind for 20 years. Great show.
Dean and Robert are high caliber rock n roll genius'. Dean is in my top ten favorite guitar players. So creative and non-typical. Thanks for making these videos. Much appreciated!
Thank you sir! Dean and Robert are monster players and STP's catalog is spans across many styles (rock, jazz, blues, alt-rock), reminiscent of Zeppelin/Stones and the like, more so than most 90's bands. Dean's playing is no joke and these songs are anything but basic power chords as you've shown. His live tone is huge as well. It's really too bad a lot of folks, especially musicians couldn't get their heads out of the 80's. It became such a ridiculous mockery of itself with non-stop senseless shredding, the clothes, cheezy-ass lyrics etc. I grew up on that stuff too, but when these guys, Alice, Soundgarden etc came along, I welcomed it with huge open arms. People don't realize a lot of these 90's guys have deep roots in Zeppelin, Hendrix, Stones, Sabbath etc etc, and they put a different spin on it, instead of singing about chicks at the beach, cars and demons/fire ..ha! Keep it coming.
Rob showed the origin of Interstate Love Song in his Beato interview, and it apparently started out as a sort of Bosa Nova vibe on a cat gut, soooo, those chords make a lot more sense when you look at it with those particular eyes. I totally agree with the assessment of Rob being a bit of a secret weapon in the band. Those guys were next level closet jazzers who deserved more respect than they probably got relative to their Grunge contemporaries. It does strike me interesting though, how all those acts from that point in time around 92 and on were somehow recognizable as "grunge" but they were all unique artistic statements, and worthy of their places in history.
STP had fantastic harmonic sense in their songs, it was one of the great aspects of their music. It all dawned on me when I wanted to learn Plush and I was blown away by how complex the chords were.
"Dont cut out my paper heart, i aint dying anyway..." HELL YEA!!!...sour girl is a good one..and their little jazzy instrumentals.....GREAT stuff dave!!!
Took me a while but finally watched this one and loved every bit of it. Your take on Sour Girl was great, especially the D11/A shape. I had watched a video of Tom from Trip the Witch where Dean explains how he plays this song. He takes a little different approach to the fingering using his ring finger to add the A on the low E string. He then slides the shape up to the Bbmaj9 using his ring finger to fret the F on the E string. Really cool stuff, you did a killer job on this one.
Another great one Robert. Really explain it where even I can understand. Would really love you're ideas on "Live, Go for what you know" era Pat Travers/Pat Thrall. Wore that album out. P.S. I think you're the only one who sends thank you emails for comments. That's really cool. Keep it up.
No doubt that Dean is a great player, but there's a recent interview of Robert on an episode of Rick Beato's channel that makes you realize that Robert was the main songwriter for not only the bass parts, but also the guitar parts! Plus, Robert looked cool as hell the way he would bring the headstock of his bass up close to his head, almost parallel to his body.
Another one I somehow missed 😂. Couple things: that G in the chorus of the Trippin’... example. It always sounded like it was now wired from Dancin’ Days. The other thing: with STP and EVH Chordplays- like the F# bass notes but open strings top and the A5 then move it up 2 frets- type chords... Thais kind of chords have been faves from a almost couldn’t remember when. Then I realized... when I started playing my dad got me a classical. Neck wide, my hands too small to fret everything so I “cheated” until my hands were big enough. Those cheats were all I could manage. I wonder if thats maybe the root for some of the players who regularly use those sus 2, sus 4, 2-note chords stylings, etc.(?!). As usual, thanks for another awesome video David.
I freaking love your channel!!! I thought all types of guitarist channels had been done by now. That was until I stumbled up on yours. I’ve been watching for a couple hours straight through a bunch of your videos. Side note, I’m almost equally as stoked about this STP video. I’m only a couple years younger than you and I feel like STP has been super underrated, particularly in guitar player world. Sure they didn’t play groundbreaking solos but they did in fact play much more interesting chords than 99% of 90’s grunge (which is still love). Funnily enough I remember getting the tab book for the albums Purple and Core. I didn’t understand why the tabs were so bad back then (which is true) but it was actually the complexity of the chords STP used. I could play any Metallica riff (essentially) after looking at the tab but STP was challenging in itself just because of the chords I’d never seen previously. Thanks for your channel
Wonderful lesson! Thank you. One of my all-time favorite bands. The DeLeo brothers are fantastic song songwriters with a great sense of Melody. Dean has a great chord vocabulary as you point out and I love those complex sounding chords that bloom with harmonic richness. His body mechanics and posture on stage remind me of Joe Perry who he has indicated was a big influence. Great lesson emigrate band you chose some of my favorite riffs too. much-appreciated.
Dang that was cool-you really opened my eyes. I think I often dismissed stp as power chord stuff. Those chords were so much more and then makes me think Dean Deleo was so over looked. It’s no wonder with music like that and then Scott Weiland singing on that...it was pretty magical. Thanks for an awesome lesson!!!!
What a killer breakdown. The crazy intersection of grunge, jazz and the inherently sweet sounds of finger contortionism. 🔥 Late Night Lessons just too good!💥
Stp riffs are fascinating once you kinda realize how much stuff have a good simmetric shape across the fretboard... also a lot of reverse noteplaying its insane
No wayyy dude, stp rocks! I was born in 96 and I started listening to 90s music before 80s and 70s stuff. For a long time, I was obsessed with with stp and alice in chains and I didn't even know what the 80s were all about. Dean DeLeo is the reason I picked up the guitar in the first place. Of course, when I first heard George Lynch playing Paris is Burning I was like "hmm... Jerry, dean, you guys are great and all but..." And now I want to listen to core and purple again.
STP were always underrated in my opinion I saw them play in the SFX Hall in Dublin in 1993(I think)which is long since closed down and they blew everyone away They were brilliant and Scotty was a fantastic frontman RIP The minute I heard Plush on the radio I was sold I could never understand why they were always compared to Pearl Jam because to my ears they were never in the same genre They were the Led Zep of the 1990s Great video by the way👍
Being a young kid, and not having or knowing about such things as having my guitar properly intonated and playing with a garbage distortion pedal instead of a decent tube amp, really made some of these cool chords sound terrible and put a damper on me learning a lot of this kind of stuff, looking back i wish i had been more informed about such stuff, lol
