GREAT TECHNIQUE SIFU!!! Top 3 Choy Li Fut demonstrations of applications that i have ever witnessed.. bless you for studying thoroughly, respecting the culture and perpetuating the art, spreading the knoelwdge and preserving the ancient traditions and culture, most importantly proving the combat effectiveness of the traditional martial arts.
@@JulyFourth1776 it relies on wide movements to generate power strikes with both arms open like wings, the this is vulnerable position if the set up attacks dont work,or if opponent retaliates with shorter counter attacks
dayan arias the one who is faster and more powerful will win. This is always the case. Whenever you launch an attack, you have openings yourself for your opponent to counter attack you but only if he is better than you.
@Jez abell "people generally dont counter after a charp to the throat though" That's assuming you even land the charp. Everything is assumptions, no one is doing sparring, or competing to see if their training methods or curriculum stands up to reality.
@@kingschultz8299 There are sparring and competitions in Kung Fu, just look at something like Lei Tai. I don't know if this person's school does it or not, but it does exist. I do agree that the arcs on a lot of those strikes are too wide, if you parry or dodge that first strike it's very easy either to block it or interrupt with something faster. Good lateral movement would also make a lot of this harder to apply. The techniques can work, but it would definitely be a good idea to shorten a lot of the motion on those techniques in order to make it tighter and more difficult to interrupt. My main issue is that the techniques in the video don't really take the concept of tempo into account, the guy throws 5-6 committed strikes in a row without accounting for anything his opponent might be doing, at that point, it's just too long for a good combination, because you can only do so much before your opponent comes up with a response.
Choy Lay Fut KungFu is what I study it’s Deff an effective style no question only thing poss different about the school I go to learn Choy. Lay Fut is we mix Kickboxing with it idk if any other Choy Lay Fut school mixes Kickboxing with it but never the less a good style to learn where a block and be a strike and a strike can be used as a block
I have just been watching all your fighting technique videos and really enjoy them. Do you have examples of sparring in class or tournaments with people who are evenly matched? It is hard to find examples of people using traditional kung fu movements in sparring.
often sparring cant be used to test kung fu, because the techniques often involve stuff like gouging, twisting, strikesto soft spots on the body such as temple with a certain kind of fist, so you would be limiting it extremely in a sparring match which doesnt always mimic a street fight and many of the choy lee fut moves are illegal in sparring. I go to a choy lee fut school, in a real fight in the street the techniques that work best were unexpected ones, but also, my sifu himself says to shorten up the length of the hits when you are in a real fight, the longer arm is used more for forms, or for finishing blows. We still learn and focus on all the basics that you learn in boxing, as choy lee fut has those techniques too, straight punch, jab, uppercut etc. just have different names, in the beginning we will spend a lot of time on stances, specifically horse stance, we hit bags and also practice doing applications on eachother, like stuff where were twisting eachothers arms or whatever or twisting a finger to break, but obviously not going to the point of hurting eachother. I havent sparred much, and 2 years in Ive gone from not knowing how to throw a single punch to being able to defend myself on the street dependng on the skill level of who attacks of course, i still have a lot to learn, but I heard so much about its not practical. but another thing to realize is within choy lee fut forms, what one thinks of as a strike may have a very different application such as a throw or a grapple but the forms are designed to look pretty and also contain the techniques without fully giving away , so the students can know the true application, but an onlooker might not guess it so easily. I think it really depends on your teacher. In the old days my club the people would fight eachother and give people herniated disks and all that, but nowadays they arent as focused on that mentality, while still maintaining practicality, we are not trying to hurt eachother as we also are focused on longevity, but we do everythnig, strengthening, conditioning, stances, forms , applications, punches, kicks, throws, xi gong and energy work, stretches, lion dance, staff and weapons training, fire spinning. Its a full martial art and i would say its definitely taught me how to fight while also teaching me stability and discipline in my life, while also gaining other skills that can be used for performance and exercise. I think my main issue with mma is it often leaves the parts of the martial arts out that are seen as "soft" when in reality you need yin and yang, you need to learn to heal your body and build energy as much as you need to exert energy. Kung fu is a lifestyle , and choy lee fut may have thousands of moves, some that you need to be very advanced to apply, but it is also an art that is meant to take a lifetime to learn, and a good teacher will have you focus on all the basics before you even move on to all the fancy stuff, which you may get an intro to in the forms, then sometimes you do an applications and youre like, oh thats from the form and you understand more how it is used. Anyways thats just my take as a kung fu student of 2 years
Very interesting. Love this martial art but I can find some impractical parts. I understanding having versatility in ones arsenal but the basics are what really need to be trained. It’s not often you’re going to find your self in a situation where the opponents arm is in the air long enough to hit it twice. Anyone with decent boxing skills will make one defensive strike hard enough.
i learn choy lee fut and my sifu always says to shorten up the techniques in a real fight, and the basics are what i spent all the time training mostly, we do all the same stuff from boxing, straight punch, jab, cross, uppercut, hook, it just has different names, so something like a sow choy is really just a hook or can be applied as one if you shorten it up, we also learn basic kicks, ive spent the past two years basically practicing two kicks. I feel this might help explain, i wrote a comment to someone else who said about choy lee fut not sparring, but yeah My sifu says to shorten up the techniques, but also we train all the basics of boxing. sparring is not the best determinor of how good choy lee fut is as the techniques often involve stuff like gouging, twisting, strikesto soft spots on the body such as temple with a certain kind of fist, so you would be limiting it extremely in a sparring match which doesnt always mimic a street fight and many of the choy lee fut moves are illegal in sparring. I go to a choy lee fut school, in a real fight in the street the techniques that work best were unexpected ones, but also, my sifu himself says to shorten up the length of the hits when you are in a real fight, the longer arm is used more for forms, or for finishing blows. We still learn and focus on all the basics that you learn in boxing, as choy lee fut has those techniques too, straight punch, jab, uppercut etc. just have different names, in the beginning we will spend a lot of time on stances, specifically horse stance, we hit bags and also practice doing applications on eachother, like stuff where were twisting eachothers arms or whatever or twisting a finger to break, but obviously not going to the point of hurting eachother. I havent sparred much, and 2 years in Ive gone from not knowing how to throw a single punch to being able to defend myself on the street dependng on the skill level of who attacks of course, i still have a lot to learn, but I heard so much about its not practical. but another thing to realize is within choy lee fut forms, what one thinks of as a strike may have a very different application such as a throw or a grapple but the forms are designed to look pretty and also contain the techniques without fully giving away , so the students can know the true application, but an onlooker might not guess it so easily. I think it really depends on your teacher. In the old days my club the people would fight eachother and give people herniated disks and all that, but nowadays they arent as focused on that mentality, while still maintaining practicality, we are not trying to hurt eachother as we also are focused on longevity, but we do everythnig, strengthening, conditioning, stances, forms , applications, punches, kicks, throws, xi gong and energy work, stretches, lion dance, staff and weapons training, fire spinning. Its a full martial art and i would say its definitely taught me how to fight while also teaching me stability and discipline in my life, while also gaining other skills that can be used for performance and exercise. I think my main issue with mma is it often leaves the parts of the martial arts out that are seen as "soft" when in reality you need yin and yang, you need to learn to heal your body and build energy as much as you need to exert energy. Kung fu is a lifestyle , and choy lee fut may have thousands of moves, some that you need to be very advanced to apply, but it is also an art that is meant to take a lifetime to learn, and a good teacher will have you focus on all the basics before you even move on to all the fancy stuff, which you may get an intro to in the forms, then sometimes you do an applications and youre like, oh thats from the form and you understand more how it is used. Anyways thats just my take as a kung fu student of 2 years
Notice at 1:41 when he lands the rear hand strike, his front foot steps to the left and touches the ground, and his rear leg straightens at the same that the strike lands. Most of his body weight drops into that strike.
I did choy lay fut just one month, and watched for one year 16:00 to 22:00 so I know at least a little bit how they movie, than I treined wing chun segund level, boxe, capoeira, jiu-jitsu, Greek Fight, muai thay.
Choy Lay Fut is famous for kicking Wing Chuns ass in old days hong kong street brawl. If a wing chun guy somehow won it would be very proud moment for him.
@@Supermomo2007 Hung Gar is a good system. But it was the Choy Lay Fut Boxers that beat the Thais first. Also a lot of the Hung Ga guys transition into the Choy Lay Fut system.
Doesn't mean shit....in MMA you can't use a lot of these moves, and you have to wear gloves...MMA is not the true test of these skills and it imposes all sorts of rules (no throat/groin strikes)...
@@TheStrataminor gloves don't prevent injury the way you think they do, they prevent cuts and that's about it. In reality they actually allow you to throw a lot harder with a lot less caution. My philosophy on the kind of strikes you mentioned is this, if you can't consistently land a good solid kick on an MMA guy, you're not landing one to the groin, if you can't consistently land punches where you want to on an MMA fighter's head, you're not going to be landing eye gouges or throat strikes. Beyond that, while those moves are effective, they're not usually fight enders, you'll likely create a really solid opening for something else, interrupt his breathing, screw up his vision, or slow him down for a bit, perhaps even drop him to the ground, but the fight's not over at that point, and the person is often fully capable of recovering enough to fight you within a few seconds. It gives you a temporary advantage in the fight that you can exploit to do something that will finish the fight. Besides that, we're martial artists, we should be improving our skills to be as good as we possibly can be, not banking on a single technique to win the fight for us. We put in the work to win a fight, not the techniques we learn.
