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Chris Harris vs Honda Civic Type R | Top Gear Series 33

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Honda has been building Civic Type Rs for 25 years, but what’s most remarkable is that its mechanical template has remained unchanged across that whole period. When many have switched to 4WD and twin clutch gearboxes, here’s a car that uses the original hot hatch template and has lost none of its appeal or ability to entertain. Chris Harris heads to the Top Gear test track to try out the latest Civic Type R…
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@dfend451 Год назад

I salute the Honda engineers and designers. They are why we have these types of cars. RESPECT!!!!!

@franko8572 Год назад

Kinda, but the suits had to approve it and commission the build, and investors had to fund the company, and buyers had to prove it was worth making the product etc.

@jeffmelara4165 Год назад

I was fortunate to get one in the first wave as my daily car. It's an absolute pleasure .

@ZainJafar Год назад

Is the suspension overly stiff as the majority of reviews mention?

@rjhick1 Год назад

@@ZainJafar I have one. Its only stiff in +R mode. The comfort setting is the Sport setting in the FK8. It doesn't feel that bad except for +R mode for me

@tanthaman Год назад

Did we ask?

@bcraftin7846 Год назад

Chris drifting a front wheel drive car like it’s a rear wheel drive car is a masterclass. 🙌🏽🙌🏽

@bruisersdilemma354 Год назад

This is a rear wheel drive car.

@DGT73 Год назад

@@bruisersdilemma354no it’s not it’s front, and that’s lift-off oversteer

@van_der_lindeDA 11 месяцев назад

@@bruisersdilemma354awkward

@Makrel94 Год назад

A hot hatch that does 170 mph 🤯 Wild times !

@swansmeister 2 месяца назад

Mine goes 312km/h, you do the math

@patrikpolivka5285 2 месяца назад

How hatch bigger than WRX STI

@Mmm66689 Год назад

I knew it is not a cheap car and I have got mine for 3 days and I have to say, its absolutely worth it. It is a 911 GT3 in the world of daily cars, best FF ever. In that way, it is a great value.

@antiflg530 3 месяца назад

I’ve had my brand new 2024 sonic grey pearl for 3 days myself, and I agree! it’s absolutely worth it.

@DavidusMaximus Год назад

Wrong thumbnail ?

@TheCaffeinatedDrive Год назад

I mean its the same thing

@g0d182 Год назад

they probably knew 10th gen civic thumbnail would grab more views

@alanredacted Год назад

Which looks better...

@pedrorodrigueztube Год назад

Type R gone woke

@James-May Год назад

Dey arr rook arike

@HexaSquirrel Год назад

Probably the best ‘regular’ car in the past 5 years

@ep3 Год назад

Seems like the fl5 is very well setup! The best way to make an FF car fast is by setting it so that the rear slides with the corners. Then its a matter of adjusting the throttle for the best corner exit. Very well done Honda! 👏

@shahulhusman Год назад

Haha "get in me and thrash me" I feel like that was on purpose Chris.. Lol

@wings9925 Год назад

Saw a regular new-shape Civic on the road yesterday. Looked really good! This new Type-R will pull-in buyers who previously couldn't stomach the contrived styling. Me included

@user-fr9tk4sw41 6 месяцев назад

私も買いました

@turbo_tin Год назад

An absolute riot to drive!

@mondo_stunts27 Год назад

Cris thanks for taking the torch with top gear, you’re probably the only one I still appreciate from what seems like older times.

@FezzaYT Год назад

Mine arrives next month! So excited 😊

@madmugen888 Год назад

🎉congratulations How is it?

@vicoboi Год назад

Honda will be proud of you for driving it that way!

@b20vteg Год назад

still the best seats in the business!

@jonesy3002 Год назад

I have never seen anyone drive the new type R in this manner ….. holy beeeeeeeppppppp now I want one !!!! Have to wait for dealers to stop these absurd mark ups

@A4ANT Год назад

Me neither, must have watched that turn / skid 30 times

@YouTuber-jz5nd Год назад

This is the one car I wish to hell was rear wheel drive... It would be EPIC!

@keith6360 Год назад

The 4 wheel drive equivalent is the GR corolla which only a fraction heavier than the CTR. I’d still take the CTR though for the looks and cabin space.

@afrikengunner Год назад

Buy way smaller practically

@gtiz5 Год назад

Superb review: Chris manages to extract the Civic Type R FL5 essence in just over 5 minutes: If you had to watch just one review of the FL5, this is THE ONE. Respect🙌

@stain628 Год назад

Why do I feel the need to buy one after watching this 😊😊

@TrackSol Год назад

I know it is technically a "hatchback", but it just doesn't feel right hearing it called that. Hatchbacks tend to have a rear end that is at least 45 degrees. The VW Rabbit and Golf, Honda EG/EK/EP3 Civic 3-doors, Peugeot 206 3 and 5 door, and current Toyota Yaris and GR Corolla come to mind. The DC2 and DC5 Integras/RSX weren't referred to as hatchbacks, but rather sport coupes. The Nissan S13 and S14 were usually called liftbacks. And that is what I think this FL5 Civic Type R (and it's Integra cousin) should be called: a Liftback.

@feelthatfeelthat Год назад

I agree, bothers me when they call this a hot hatch. Regardless it's the perfect daily driver or one car kind of vehicle.

@JamesSarino Год назад

Same, I think of the Civic Type R (and Integra Type S) as fastbacks/liftbacks, not hatchbacks. But I guess tomato - tohmato. 😁

@isurumw6119 Год назад

One day I will buy that car.

@romeundernero Год назад

That editing at 2:22 is satisfying

@MrGreatnessisme Год назад

I had the FK8 and flipped it when used car prices were really high. I do miss it. It was the most fun car I've ever driven. Just take one out on the track with just sticky tires and you will have a blast!

@LFC1533 Год назад

As a previous owner of an original 2000 phoenix yellow dc2 type r in Canada, i absolutely love this honda. This is a proper honda just like the type r was. Id have to see it and feel it to believe this civic is a better fwd car then the R was though cuz even my buddies who owned e36’s and such were mesmerized by the R’s handing. Props to honda for realizing the mistake of the alien spaceship from a few years ago and releasing this 💎 this is a true Type R

@papapetad Год назад

I absolutely cannot look at this car and think "hot hatch". Developped my affinity for cool machines in the mid to late 90's in a country full of jdm cars. None of the icons of the segment had anywhere near this kind of bulk nor shape. I see this more as a refined late 90's/early 00's accord type r. I do like it though. They've finally put someone with functional eyeballs back on the design team to compliment the solid mechanical foundation. It's the first Honda that's tickled my fancy since the CL7. Back in the "cool car" column :)

@thestig4408 Год назад

Pity it's slower than the previous two models lol

@williamsilvajr7009 Год назад

Cuz of taller final drive. When modded for more power the taller gears will work in your favor. Right Chris?

@iantownsend500 Год назад

Those seats look amazing

@turbo_tin Год назад

They're super comfortable!

@ragweedmakesmesneeze Год назад

FWIW, some reviewers have noted that for longer trips, lack of lumber support has become a problem.

@NCLme Год назад

😂😂 wow Chris jus took the TypeR and went DK on that makeShift B road of an air strip 😅😅😅🙌🏿

@michaelmassart2349 Год назад

And not even one word about the mental price tag, well done Mr Harris

@raajkumaar16 Год назад

He did in the full episode.

@jameswillard1 Год назад

Well in fairness to it’s exceptionally high price it basically doesn’t depreciate at all. In the US 2017 models (first year on sale) MSRP was just under $34k……fast forward 6 years later and you won’t find one with 50k miles for much less (if any) than that. Same goes for every other model year

@RICARD01 Год назад

The price tag is not mental....the MARKUPS are.

@richsan4923 Год назад

Price IS MENTAL. I've got two cars that do 0-60 only 1 and half seconds slower and they cost me less than 3K each. OK they are obviously not brand new.

@RICARD01 Год назад

@@richsan4923 $45k msrp for this car is NOT mental

@dmytryblyzniuk8211 Год назад

Best hot hatch in its class and most popular family sedan in Britain 🇬🇧, gourgeous car

@richsan4923 Год назад

Most popular saloon in the UK? I'd check your facts on that one. Honda sell less and less cars in the UK every year. They have a very small market share.

@ThePiquet888 Год назад

Chris Harris tombstone 'What a THING!!'

@alsayedfakhri4597 Год назад

Mine's coming soon - cant wait!

@turbo_tin Год назад

Woohoo! You're gonna love it!

@krishnaasaurab Год назад

BBC doesn't even know which one is the new one? They have put the old one on the thumbnail. 😮

@skylined5534 Год назад

I have little interest in the type R (asides this being far better looking than the outgoing model) but as soon as I see Chris Harris doing a review I'm on it!

@paulstack2431 Год назад

But you have enough interest to comment on your lack of interest 😂. Now why would anyone bother doing that 🤔

@skylined5534 Год назад

@@paulstack2431 Smooth brain Paul.

@nazz0007 Год назад

Ha ha

@SpaceHCowboy Год назад

@@skylined5534comment and retort of the day of the day 😂 "But iTs V-tEcH BRuH" Bwaaaaaaah.....

@kchen101 Год назад

I have the outgoing model and it's amazing - this one has the whole package... a better look and even better performance

@SON-ci9mv Год назад

Im subscribing to bbc because Mr Harris. Way to go sir.

@paulabhilash5852 Год назад

Awesome car ❤ Respect to honda engineerzz

@psewgobind Год назад

Sucks that the Si version doesn't have that K20 engine. It leave the door open for the Elantra N, which will take the crown once its long term reliability is proven. Relevant, since us Canadians are not getting the Type-R.

@LFC1533 Год назад

Are you sure we arent? That would be an absolute disaster

@psewgobind Год назад

@@LFC1533 Site now has it for $52k and the usual no inventory notice.

@Bmontepeque11 Год назад

I know this is overly expenive, but you want the "Working, Middle-class man 911 GT3"? THIS is that Middle-class GT3 ❤️😩 And when you add the usability and space this offers? This might just be the closest thing we have to a perfect car 🧐

@constillustrus Год назад

I like the looks of the older one better!

@asianskywalker Год назад

This is the kinda buzz i get when driving my s2000

@CerberusTenshi Год назад

Dear BBC, please correct the thumbnail. You're showing the FK8 Civic Type R Sport Line, not the FL5 Civic Type R as in the video. Please and thank you.

@poopsie117 Год назад

Did not know that the European and Japanese versions of these cars get more power ... interesting.

@SuperBotfly Год назад

Because of feul quality

@maximumattackrallying Год назад

Just a shame it's so expensive and that the numbers are so limited.

@jamestubman2016 8 месяцев назад

Great owning this type r. Good job Chris. 🥳😎

@maplefreak64 Год назад

3:50 If I were a car collector, I would collect a Honda tractor and a Lamborghini tractor.

@piee93able Год назад

330hp as for round-up figure 🔥🔥

@davidsong286 Год назад

"Get in me and thrash me." - Civic Type R, via Chris Harris.

@jameswillard1 Год назад

Why is there an FK8 on the thumbnail for an FL5 road test?

@williambellisIII Год назад

Yeah. And that’s not even an FK8 Type R.

@CerberusTenshi Год назад

@@williambellisIIIIt is the Type R, but the Sports Line, with the spoiler instead of the wing.

@williambellisIII Год назад

@@CerberusTenshi I don’t think it’s the Sportline. The one pictured doesn’t have a red badge, the front lip/diffuser, the rear arches, etc.

@JamesSmith-sw3nk Год назад

I never got the Civic sport models/Type R. They are the same price as a V8 Mustang that will eat a Civic for lunch on the track.

@Tiger-pu4oz Год назад

Last gen V8 5.0 Mustang sounds great. It’s a proper RWD. Has better acceleration. Looks good as a coupe. However, it is not blessed with lightweight agility, nor it’s 6-spd manual is as satisfying to shift. The type R has better steering response/feel. And Mustang can’t seat 4-5 people decently. Much tighter backseats. Less practicality. Both cars have their advantages and disadvantages. And let’s be honest they are not direct competitors. One is a light weight fun 4 door hot hatch. One is a 2 door sporty coupe/muscle car. Now the new gen Ford Mustang V8. I am looking forward to it. Let’s see how driver focused they make it. Will it have a great steering feel/feedback, great 6-spd manuals, more agility, better rear seat room. I guess we all will have to wait.

@LFC1533 Год назад

You never got it and no problem, hope you never do lol your clueless and delluded comparing mustang vs type r’s of past. Why dont we compare celicas and golfs with challengers and camaros while were at it🤦🏻‍♂️

@fluffymuffinsyummy Год назад

mr. @BBCStudios your thumbnail's wrong! that's not the new honda!

@hagestad Год назад

4:57 yep it was styled by 10 year old

@MsFishfish1 Год назад

Top review of a top car 💪

@jamessheehy4895 Год назад

The m135i is the problem with all new hot hatches

@philcliffe6909 8 месяцев назад

Eluded to the price I notice.

@MrYabber Год назад

I love Honda’s. Toyota’s, too. I JUST LOVE JAPANESE CARS 😅

@romerosneck Год назад

'get in me, and thrash me', sounds like my ex

@user-pu4gs9rz2g Год назад

I think he likes it.

@testdriveph Год назад

Ok so, ummm wrong thumbnail? 😅

@kingandrey1688 Год назад

Have you seen other drivers drove ctr like chris harris did?

@aaronwalker1549 Год назад

2:16 My girlfriend coming home drunk at 2am

@ryanyeethegifted Год назад

Did he just drift this front wheel car😂

@madmugen888 Год назад

Multiple times it would seem! Harris is the only one who drives like you’re supposed to!

@ryanyeethegifted Год назад

@@madmugen888 is not about the drivers, is abt the cars. The cars can do nomatter who drive.

@madmugen888 Год назад

@@ryanyeethegifted the car is definitely capable, there’s plenty of reviewers talking about the amount lift of over steer you can get and how much the car can rotates, however Chris’s driving and the way BBC captured it is soo much more satisfying to watch than any other channel I’ve seen. While it still technically not a drift, I’ll take it and it looks like a lot of fun.

@pjayx7320 Год назад

You wanna know what is amusing though? The dealership price of these things.

@LessTalkMoreDelicious Год назад

Too bad it’s +$40k… before the $10-20k markup. Lol

@hasantuter3398 6 месяцев назад

Chris Harris looks like he broke out of jail

@hassyg4083 11 месяцев назад

the things slower than a 1.6 gr corollla/yaris lol

@DavidJohnson-zz2yn 8 месяцев назад

FWD VS AWD. but still, honda beats them in a roll race😂

@hassyg4083 8 месяцев назад

@@DavidJohnson-zz2yn erm not really Golf R faster lol

@shadquirk607 Год назад

That is 100% a saloon car, NOT a hatch of any kind.

@ryb2189 Год назад

This car is awesome until the elements take over.

@area50view Год назад

Work on the Thumbnail.

@hoomee7605 Год назад

And hot hatches shud also be 2 door. They forget this. FWD and 2 door hatch. !! Anything else doesn't cut it for me as "hot-hatch".

@zpe1200 Год назад

only 5 minutes?

@philochristos Год назад

It looks to me like you CAN buy happiness.

@davevernon4993 Год назад

Love it, even if it does look like a Bull Terrier suffering with anaphylactic shock. ( P.S, I love Bull Terriers)

@ronaldwarren1267 Год назад

3 cylinder turbo awd yaris now thats a car only one problem cant get them in the states gazo

@Vermonstered Год назад

psst... The GR Corolla does basically everything the GR Yaris does and better. Both are still significantly slower than the CTR on a track. Only when you start adding in varied grip or wet conditions is the GR 'rally' cars going to keep up. But both interiors are out of the absolute base model car if you don't mind absolute cheapness and neither GR have a great driving position.

@mishimposble Год назад

CTR is junk

@bmx687 Год назад

@@mishimposble it doesn't blow up like carolla/yaris

@Pirustae 5 месяцев назад

170 in a civic type R? 😂 wow, never expected that. Compare it to a non-type R. The piss poor 2.0l engine making only 158hp in the Sport trim. Sport my ass.

@albertogonzalez1746 Год назад

324hp?

@nadeemaziz7471 Год назад

Honda👌

@Stark1ller Год назад

4.59 m is too big for a "hot hatch".

@pinut187 Год назад

Honda is the only brand nowadays to bring us a car in this segment. So yeah winner again as always.

@aerialbugsmasher Год назад

Laughs in Golf R, Corolla GR, MB A45 AMG, Hyundai 120N, Audi RS3 etc etc

@pinut187 Год назад

@@aerialbugsmasher well ok the Hyundai is correct, the R is not being sold anymore and the other are in another price range/class.

@cmarz6564 Год назад

its a Saab

@robertoehni7272 Год назад

Chris Type R or Yaris GR ???

@christianglyde2696 Год назад

Yeah Chris which one?

@swansmeister 2 месяца назад

It runs hot on the ring is all you need to know.

@pinut187 Год назад

Chris didnt skip a meal for a while✅

@konholio2 Год назад

Honda needs to shave off 200kg of this car, to make it special.

@madmugen888 Год назад

Hopefully an LE version will pull that off, time will tell.

@TheFK8Life Год назад

Wish he could drive my 640bhp FK8 😂 absolute riot - the people who complain about these cars have no idea of their potential and it shows. Just laugh at their ignorance. 😂

@SpaceHCowboy Год назад

We'll laugh at the understeer.

@g0d182 Год назад

~~~~ doesn't look as special as 10th gen, but still looks fun

@patrickbateman7122 Год назад

Here we go the CH OTT top gear acting is back 😒

@stuffs76 Год назад

🔥🔥🔥🔥❤️

@controlfreak1963 Год назад

I've got the same engine in my Acura RDX and it is very impressive for a 4 cylinder. The RDX has Super Handling All Wheel Driver (SHAWD) so it handles turns a bit better than the Type R's front wheel drive.

@jordyariaszapata6124 Год назад

Lmfao yea nope. I have an rdx aspec and a type r and the rdx is nowhere near close to the handling of a type r, not even remotely close and engines are bit different aswell same block different pistons and the head different aswell.

@controlfreak1963 Год назад

@@jordyariaszapata6124 Try it in snow.

@madmugen888 Год назад

Turn in and handling has more to do with vehicle setup and geometry over if a car is driven by the front wheels or all 4 wheels. Eg. The CTR will still out handle a 4 wheel drive (stock) STI on back roads and on tracks (in the dry) which has similar power and weight.

@dTheHammerb Год назад

Such an ugly car, cant get over it. The FK8 is way better by the stretch of anyones imagination.

@93Tillinfini Год назад

If you like cars that look like boy racer cars. Last Gen was way to fake. Fake vents, fake carbon fibre, fake hood scoop, shitty steering wheel, shitty looking seats. As said in this video it looked like a 7 year old designed it. It was rice. This is actually aerodynamically styled, better cooling, functional hood vent, no fake vents and over the top styling. I cringe when I see an FK8. It didn’t even look aggressive, it looked like they said “style this, style that, style this, put more fake vents here”

@CerberusTenshi Год назад

@@93TillinfiniYou're talking out of your ass and it shows. You have no idea what you're talking about. Fake vents? Only a few. They are called style elements, to brake up boring design and endlessly round surfaces Fake hood scoop? Nope. Functional hood scoop. It just works in a way you don't understand. Fake carbon fibre? No. Honda never claimed it's carbon fibre. You can get a carbon fibre package, interior and exterior to replace the textured plastic. Shitty stearing wheel? It's the same stearing wheel in the FK8 as in the FL5. Shitty looking seats? They are the same seats, except for colouring. FK8 is red and black, FL5 is only red.

@tonyboswell5414 10 месяцев назад

I agree, the FK8 looks like what it is a hot hatch, the FL5 would impress your 👵 grandma, toned down WAY too much and made to look very generic

@mishimposble Год назад

Overpriced and front wheel drive. Blah

@TheCaffeinatedDrive Год назад

Ditto, really don’t get the appeal of this car.

@paulstack2431 Год назад

I always find it hilarious when people comment on something they have no interest in ' I also find it's usually from a point of not being able to afford the item or liking /owning something else that this car will drive rings around 😂

@da-yh3uy Год назад

@@paulstack2431 probably a mustang owner

@isurumw6119 Год назад

Stop it. Get some help😂

@williambellisIII Год назад

And how many times have you driven one?

@lotfims969 Год назад

Dissapoiting

@farishanafiah8461 Год назад

Much better looking than FK8. The FK8 is an overdesigned mess.

@smellyfish36 Год назад

I feel like with that size chassis they could've made it RWD, I dont know why were pretending FF is a good layout for a performance car when its the worst one possible