Christian Talks to Two Mormon Elders Part 2 

Praise jesus! Any advice? Lots of patience was involved I'm sure.

That's awesome! To God be the glory!

@@friendlyfire7509 look up Jeff Durbin of Apologia Studios. (Apologia Church) He does alot of preaching outside the temple in Tempe AZ and posts his encounters on youtube. He is a pastor and a really good speaker who knows the word. I've learned alot from him!

God is Amazing!

Praise God🙌

I pray and cover this video in the blood of Jesus that ( there ) lawyers will have no powers against you at all and may it reach so many to help open there eyes in Jesus name amen🙏🏼🙌🏼

Love ❤️

What’s the mind stopping technique ? Never heard of something like that, Is it a tactic Mormons use to evangelize

@@Laurel.m_ak it’s not just with mormons , it can be with anything for anyone, so for example in Mormonism we were trained that if someone starts talking about Joseph smith in a not a good way start sharing your testimony about the Book of Mormon . What this does it shuts down the convo so you don’t hear the convo , it what people do to stay plugged in the matrix as to not think for themselves be challenged in there way of think or deconstruct there faith to see is it on a firm foundation can you challange it with scrutiny and it still stand. It’s like an NPC. Hope that helps

Watching this now... God helped eto be patient with the LDS American heresy peddlers aka Mormon missionaries. I engage daily with the LDS American heresy peddlers daily on.social media.. They're also not the only restoration movement cult religion out there... there's Jehovah's witnesses and seventh day Adventists and Christian science and the Campbellites.. I've had them harass my family members because they hate the fact that I expose them. This is an evil religion..

My exact thoughts

You noticed the same thing.

If the broken one is "the chief corner stone" that building is liable to come down on your head. How much rests on that broken brick?

Was thinking the same thing when he said it. One of my favorite verses!

I have a hoodie that sias Jesus leaving 99 to find one seems crazy until your that one

AMEN!

More likely he's the junior of the two; the one talking is probably a senior comp, and according to RMs the senior one usually takes the lead. Frankly, this senior comp (the one talking) has a better chance of questioning because the way he's talking he's clearly under stress from showing complete obedience and devotion to his mission president and other priesthood leaders in charge of him.

What good would prayer do? Can you demonstrate that prayer has ever helped anyone?

Kurt Sontag Prayer has helped me a lot, and I’ve witnessed others being healed through prayer, so to answer your question yes, I believe it would do some good to pray

@@nvpguitar4591 I asked for a demonstration, not a simple assertion. Personal testimony is useless. People believe in gods that contradict yours, and a lot of them have personal testimonies about experiences they had with their god, are they wrong, or lying? How do you know that you do not fall into either of those categories? How would I know if all you are willing to provide is personal testimony?

death is addressed in the bible many a times my friend. it explains that death is the result of sin because mankind chose to be his own master

I stand in prayer with you that you understand that God loves you and your friend. I pray you know that no matter what jesus loves you.

Just know 2 years later someone seen this and I am now praying for you to receive this also

For me, I know that even if I’d ever lose faith in God, I know that God is always there even if I know it or not.

Man, that's SO hard. My grandmother passed away after YEARS of asking God to let me see her again. He said "ask and you shall receive", but I asked and He ignored me. It can be so hard to understand where God is in that. Just remember Jesus prayed in the face of death.

my buddy Preston next steps stick to 5 essentials questions this was very too much data and be specific foundational faith principle less riddles and more substance overall ok another sequel is needed to clarify your mormon friend was sincere and knowledgeable less rants

Purpose driven Talents I was waiting for him to pull this one out

@@JasmineAlesia he couldn't because the guy keeps interrupt in at every step. Which makes it harder for him to bring valid point at all times

Boom..yesss.. Paul said to test the spirits.. Joseph didn't!!!

Except this is a letter to Paul to the Galatians (not talking about Mormons) and this verse is actually evidence of the beginnings of an apostasy.

@@aaronmatthews1804 anyone who says the scripture is wrong or add too or take away..that is Joseph Smith did..so it does apply to him

I would say the same for the Elders.

@@Ricky_Evans1611 You must have not watched the video and noticed how his aim is to win the hearts of those evangelizes rather than condemn them. You could learn from him.

@@chandlertuckerman5638 but this is the truth ,they are wrong.we must not play games with anyone

@@behradataei6479 I agree, but loving someone and treating them with decency isn't 'playing games'.

@@chandlertuckerman5638 but we must understand this guy trying to avoid the questions and he is not honest .he just want defend his own belief not more .exactly like muslims.they just care about their culture and their false belief not more .this person explained to him but he still want stand on his own false idea

missionary is about helping not just confusing people i have been in China and Jesus work and will makes me believe love is possible away from you own personal setting Go china see your preaching blossom is challenging but rewarded be ready to do so work like planting, gathering water, and other actions It is not normal to toss a lot of topics Mormons was smart and respectable

Unfortunately for you you do not have the fullness of the gospel. Gods word does not just stop at the bible(which has been translated over centuries btw)

@@westhoodqualzini7884i hope you aren’t trying to spread the false gospel that is normalized in the LDS religion 🙏🏽. i pray any of those who believe in that are guided to the true Word

@@misslaurynhill the Christian church has no authority with god. I mean the people are evident. The biggest criminals in history are Christian. Not to mention the unrighteousness you see people with crosses on their necks. I don’t need any lectures from you

I wrote this for Preston: You had a good LDS conversation. You brought up all the essential points: God's nature, salvation, scripture. And he emptied his purse on you: Third heaven, baptism for the dead, James 2. The thing to remember is that a good debate isn't getting the other side to admit defeat but that you professed God's truth.

The elders may not have given their lives to Christ that same day, but Preston has sown a seed in their hearts. His heart could be convicted the next day, year or even a decade later! The main thing is, he shared the truth of the gospel ❤️

wow :(

BARS

That was from the Spirit

Jesus....amen! Preston sowed seeds tho, prayerfully the ground was right for the planting.

Wisest most spiritual comment I’ve ever read.

Curious. How would you have done it better?

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Cheryl Smith I’m not sure what the motives are behind this question. It’s hard to tell via written correspondence. He was kinda apologetic interrupting and various other things. So I was responding to his self critique.

@@cherylsmith233 Check out James White and Durbin on YT.

My main thought too. There were a few things that could be improved but statistically this is the only time these two missionaries will talk to a Christian willing to engage them and share the gospel.

thats the truth - they something but they are not missionaries in any sense

Preston admits logically he can't prove the Book of Mormon isn't true, so what is he relying on?

@@bradleycopeland1423 But Evidence through the living Word of God (Jesus Christ ) proves that the Bible is True . There cant be 2 truths Each person has to come to the real truth through the conviction of the Holy Spirit and by testing to show thyself approved. Feelings are an unreliable stance to determine order and standard of truth. If we all did what we felt then Woe be unto this world :(

If your God is not bigger than the Bible, then the Bible is your God!! This is really a children's debate. It's so obvious that the mormon is weak in his theology. Particularly if his historically based data is weak!

@@willtuft413 where is the only place to learn about Jesus Christ . The bible. Where is the place to learn the order and commands of God . The bible The bible is not worshiped . It is used to point persons to Jesus . We just need to make sure that we are pointing people to the correct Christ based on what he has revealed about himself in his word . We worship God based on the knowledge and information He presented about himself through his word in the bible. We dont worship based on feelings and if you need to add to or take from God's word means you either think God's word is 'outdated' or 'insufficient'. This means WE become gods by adding or taking away from his words. Jesus said on Matthew 4 verse 4: But he answered, “It is written, “ ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that comes from the mouth of God.’ The Bible is the Menu that points to the Food of Jesus Christ . Who he is , want he stands for and what he requires for his kingdom. If you look at the bible as what it is the LIVING words of God been made able through Jesus Christ inspired by the Holy Spirit then that would be enough authority for you to stand on. Rather than discrediting God's FINAL word . Prayer and worship is a means of communicating this word on a personal or corporate level.

@@alishasheppard1368 Good morning, I am a student of religion and attend church weekly and I know, based on prior conversations and even this video, is based on what each individual feels. Christians differ in what salvation means, based on scripture. Some are Unitarians and others are Trinitarian based on scripture. Some have left Baptist to be Methodist..Pentecostal to Jehovah witness...left chritianity totally and went to to islam or Buddhism..based on what they have read in scripture. And everyone who changes or don't agree seem to be labeled as following a false doctrine. There are some pastors who say women shouldn't be heard , can't cut their hair based on scriptures. Is 2 Timothy 2:11-12 outdated? I believe my sister, that God supersede the Bible, also, I may add, as people who have been slaves believe that God only visited Europe and no place else. I find that fascinsting. And the fact that king James and his crew interpreted his version of the Bible from an original manuscript called the textus receptus and he decided to leave out books. So since he rejected those books so do we. All I'm saying my sister is that we cannot, as intelligent people, believe that man gave us a book and didn't apply his emotions and interpretations to it. And as I end, God I bigger than any book anyone's mind or perspective. His word is not stagnant, we can't put in a box and contain it. He is the creator of the universe which we can't even imagine it's depth.

This is good information

wow! thank you for sharing this! ! ! ! And you're right, at the point where he (mormon) flipped to like 3 verses and built a theology from it. . i was pulling my hair out because it was so blatantly eisegetical and sort of proved the point that preston was trying to make. Also he said some things that were factually incorrect EG a lot of what joseph wrote does not align with actual history in regard to america in that era. . anyway .. thank you for sharing and happy that you know the true god! !

very well said brother, you have to read the whole chapter or book to understand it, you should not cherry pick words or just pick some words because it will have different meaning

eyes opened So very true! I live in UT and all of my family members are either Mormon, Agnostic, Atheist or Materialist (which is basically Mormonism without Joseph Smith’s stories) and every time you corner them they always tell you they know it’s true because the spirit told them. To which I say “if someone calls your phone, but you don’t have their number and they say it’s someone you know, how would you know it’s them?” Gods word is His phone number and when He speaks I see it like caller ID cause I’ve read His word and know His character. Feelings are not The Spirit. I really enjoyed what you said. Thank you :)

Eye opened, If this is your testimony, your testimony is sucks!!! Don't pretend that you know the scripture because you don't. επει τι ποιησουσιν οι βαπτιζομενοι υπερ των νεκρων ει ολως νεκροι ουκ εγειρονται τι και βαπτιζονται υπερ των νεκρων Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead? "Baptized for" means baptizing for a person, if that works for a person who is not deceased, why don't you do it since the bible says they are doing it? Come on give us your thoughts and make us happy hahaha

Facts

Very true. A Christian who KNOWS their Bible; will easily recognize false teachers/preachers/prophets/gospels. In this case--the Mormons. And expose them; (Eph. 5:11, 2 Cor. 6:14).

“Repent of all your sins and iniquities and believe in Jesus Christ that he is the Son of God, and that he was slain by the Jews, and by the power of the Father he hath risen again, whereby he hath gained the victory over the grave; and also in him is the sting of death swallowed up. “And he bringeth to pass the resurrection of the dead, whereby man must be raised to stand before his judgment-seat. “And he hath brought to pass the redemption of the world, whereby he that is found guiltless before him at the judgment day hath it given unto him to dwell in the presence of God in his kingdom to sing ceaseless praises with the choirs above unto the Father, and unto the Son, and unto the Holy Ghost, which are one God, in a state of happiness which hath no end. “Therefore repent, and be baptized in the name of Jesus, and lay hold upon the gospel of Christ.” 124 years before the coming of Christ, it was prophesied, “And he shall rise the third day from the dead; and behold, he standeth to judge the world; and behold, all these things are done that a righteous judgment might come upon the children of men.” “Wo, wo unto him who knoweth that he rebelleth against God! For salvation cometh to none such except it be through repentance and faith on the Lord Jesus Christ.” “And now, ought ye not to tremble and repent of your sins, and remember that only in and through Christ ye can be saved?” “And these things doth the Spirit manifest unto me; therefore I write unto you all. And for this cause I write unto you, that ye may know that ye must all stand before the judgment-seat of Christ, yea, every soul who belongs to the whole human family of Adam.” Christ himself said, “And for this cause have I been lifted up; therefore, according to the power of the Father I will draw all men unto me that they may be judged according to their works. “And it shall come to pass that whoso repenteth and is baptized in my name shall be filled; and if he endureth to the end, behold, him will I hold guiltless before my Father at that day when I shall stand to judge the world.” “And whosoever will harden his heart and will do iniquity, behold, I swear in my wrath that he shall not enter into my rest.” Those who love these words may be surprised to learn the name of the book in which they are written.

@@anthonyfrank1072 It's very simple and not surprising, the key words are "and it shall come to pass" it's from your book and can't be found in the bible.

Quarles, How can you know that you are doing what the bible says if you don't pray about it? You will be misguided by the hireling shepherds if you rally on your own wisdom, how unfortunate that you said pray for them as if you believe prayer will help. LOL

Give The Book of Mormon a chance Annette. It will give you a better understanding of God and of yourself..

Martin Andersen I have given it a chance, it’s false. It’s full of contradictions.

@@martinandersen9810 no thanks

One of my family members is a Mormon and I'm a Christian and we get along really well and we have long conversations about God and my cousins could never have any real answers for me but I have answers for him and he always says that my pastor is a good shepherd

Annette Mendoza - It might be helpful to all of us if you would be willing to describe your one family member who has read the Book of Mormon and converted to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter -day Saints. Do they still live a Christian lifestyle? Do they still believe Jesus atoned for their sins? Do they still love the Lord Jesus Christ as their Savior and Redeemer? I think you will find that they are perhaps improved people as a result of this change. If you would find the courage to read the Biok of Mormon yourself with an honest and inquiring heart, you too could be bettered as a person. That is not implying that you are bad in any way, but it is an incredible book that makes the sincere reader want to follow Jesus more exactly. Personally, I love the Bible. It is essential. It actually speaks of the coming forth of the Book of Mormon. These two books are God sent to deliver scattered Israel. And you can be the more blessed by incorporating their teachings in your life. No one here wants you to give up any good you have got. The Book of Mormon is a second witness of Jesus Christ that should be loved by every Christian. It is a true record and it blesses lives. Just check it out. May God bless you to do so in all sincerity of heart. He lives and loves us.

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What? Which Christ? ... Watch out that no one deceives you. For many will come in my name, claiming, `I am the Christ, ' and will deceive many. - Jesus

@@user-xv8wy4nd7u Whoops I see this was quoting the Christian poster. I agree with him. The first issue with Christians and LDS is to overcome the language barrier: the shared words with different meanings, that's why I posted. I see now though. I did quote the Bible and I'll pardon your ad hominem (my imagination) as you pardon my error of overlooking.

Yes! When he said " im going to study this and study hard" i pray he sees hes been feed a "twist" of the Bible and stop with the "academia" and Recieve the True Word of God

David H Amen brother!!!

I agree but maybe it was because the Mormon elder would have gotten even further away from the point Preston was making. Though, I think that the second heaven is not outer space. Although not specifically mentioned in Scripture, I believe the second heaven refers to the invisible plane from which Satan and his demons operate. I would say the atmosphere immediately beside me is the same atmosphere that isn't close to me. It's just an atmosphere. I think all that is natural is part of the same heaven, especially because a distinction between the earth and the sun, moon, and stars, (in the sense of heavens) would be kind of useless. It's all creation so in my opinion, the same heaven. In Ephesians 2: 2-3, Satan is called the Prince and the power of the air. Like all rulers, he needs a place to reside; this is why I think the second heaven is this plane: an invisible space not located on the physical world, in the sense that it doesn't have an address or literal location. But it is the real place where Satan and his demons reside. Using New Age psychic techniques, people have tapped into this heaven where they encounter spiritual beings, not of God, and practice techniques that allow demons to overtake them, etc. The third heaven like you said is the home of God (II Corin 12:2) Just my opinion :)

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Proverbs 16:18. Pride goes before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall. pride was the first sin and in our sinful state we all struggle with this. It is the hardest to shake and the most destructive towards seeing truth. Pray for the lost , misguided and uninformed in this regard

Elijas Dobson Yea that’s true his pride was getting to him

Elijas Dobson Amen 💯

It is not pride alone it is a terror of what Preston is saying possibly being true. These young men will lose everything in their life. Everything! Now that is a sobering reality.how many of you have lost everything to follow the real Gospel of Jesus Christ? Seriously. When I came out of Mormonism It was excruciatingly painful. But it was worth it all because I know Him in whom I believe, and He is worth the cost of true discipleship. Pray for these young men who have only known what they have been indoctrinated in.

@@bluewillow4985 Good for you isn't the Holy Bible the Best

Rashawn Parks I said the same exact thing!! 😂

Because God has never ceased to speak to His people. It's called prayer.

Yea, that one made me do a double take. I had to rewind it.

@@bradleycopeland1423 in my opinion . A person's prayer is a subjective word. Because I can pray something that is not God's desire for me or those around me . Based on my feelings and emotions I pray what seems right to me, but is not God's Will. I can also pray something that goes against his Objective truths that are found in HIS revealed WORD which we can ONLY get from HOLY scriptures. The word of God is the foundation . Nothing can be taken from it or added to it. He is the ancient of days. The first and the Last , the beginning and the end. Prayer is simply aligning your subjective truths with God's revealed objective truth. And as it says our hearts are deceitful and wicked. So I dont use prayers to receive God's ultimate word. I trust HIS revealed word for his ultimate word . I know its hard having to wrestle with the fact that something you have been thought is not True, but God desires that all his children know him in fullness and in Truth. The saying is practice makes perfect , but practicing something incorrectly is deceit . I love you my brother. God Bless 🧡💙💚

Joseph Smith lied, and said the Word of God, the Holy Bible was corrupted and could not be trusted! God's word is tested, tried and true! It will judge them at the Judgment! The Book of Mormon is not scripture!

That’s exactly what he said so see Mormons don’t completely trust God they are of a different spirit and are following a false prophet different gospel and definitely a different gospel keep them in prayer.

Tiffany Barnes Johnson not one word...hmmmm?

He's listening! Perhaps the Holy Spirit is at work.

Exactly

Big facts

Stars are fixed to the firmament- says the bible

Patrick Leyerle exactly correct not the 3 false heavens Mormons say.

@@georgecooper4502 Shalom Aleichem Right, the Hebrew word for heaven is Shamayim (H8064) The word for the expanse (in which the sun, moon and stars were set) is Raqiyah (H7549) The expanse is a solid structure, like molten glass.

😄 you just had to make a joke 😂 good one

@@ginakaytembo9320 I tried to restrain myself lol

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@@Melonsandmide DEBS!!! 😂

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You are correct and spot on. Also, it is strange how a majority of Mormon doctrines, practices, and teachings CANNOT be found in the Book of Mormon. This is very strange considering the claims made by the author, Joseph Smith. In the Introduction to the Book of Mormon, Joseph Smith, founder of Mormonism wrote, “I told the brethren that the Book of Mormon was the most correct of any book on earth, and the keystone of our religion, and a man would get nearer to God by abiding by its precepts, than by any other book.” In the Mormon so-called restored gospel which includes temple rituals, Masonic type handshakes, and underwear with sewn in Masonic symbols are not in the Book of Mormon.

Jesus said, "Follow Me." God bless you.

Yes see this is clearly not Jesus teachings that’s mens laws JESUS fulfilled all of the law so come unto Christ for he saved you not all this men made rules.

thecatman4ever you worship Satan.

Getting ready to leave?

@@ananastea What part of that didn't u understand ?????????

I am grateful to be a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. We are fully Christian, not pseudo-Christian.

I regret to tell you my friend but the LDS believes in a false Christ.

​@@briancarter6284 The LDS believe in the only true and living Christ, the Son of the Living God. He came to earth as the anointed One. He atoned for the sins of mankind. Have you ever considered that you might be the one who has a belief in a false Christ if your Christ was not the Son of God? You should give that some thought and study before just supposing that the LDS are wrong. They have it pretty well together.

Preston is a great example of a Christian he patience he has the fruit of the spirit and his grace is amazing he is spreading the truth to elder Strong.

@@selinaogorman8380 Really? Not what I saw at all. Your man was clearly using the same deceptive tactics and set of loaded questions I've heard a hundred time before.

Facts

Todd Kuhns Don’t bring an unloaded weapon to a gun fight!! 😌🤷🏽‍♂️

Well I'm looking forward to the next video then. Unfortunately if Preston is not willing to learn the basics he will never know.

@@bradleycopeland1423, he knows more than "the basics" and is why he's not fooled by your false doctrine. Ir should I say Cult.

Actually he came to fight but said, "I dont want to fight." It's a cop out to leave an easy out and make the Christian look bad.

Your premise is that one has to be true. Consider that neither could be true?

Exactly right. You can’t have it both ways. If you believe Joseph smith, you believe you will become a god one day. Period. The Bible blatantly contradicts this which ultimately disproves Joseph Smith from the getgo. It’s really that simple.

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