I looked at that video, and it's pretty clear that these fools don't understand social Darwinism: calling power of influence as witchery is depressing comedy. As for this video, this jackass should be physically held down and forced to read Numbers chapter 5. Prolife and the Bible are NOT morally consistent. It is projection to claim Christianity as the source of prolife beliefs. One step further, and many, mostly GOP, bend their religion to fit their politics.
I live in another country, and the sheer idiocy of some Christians in the US is unbelievable. Thankfully I have enough sense to look at my religion clearly. Religion can really fuck people up.
If you're happy and you know it, it's a sin [clap clap]. If you're happy and you know it, it's a sin [clap clap]. Back in Eden, Adam fell, so you're gonna go to hell, If you're happy and you know it, it's a sin [clap clap].
The Christian parents probably don't like her because of the concept of idolatry and worldly recognition and veneration. In actuality she's just a successful person, not a coded conduit for the devil
American Christians idolize all sorts of rich preachers and politicians and firebrand media whores. I'm not giving them the benefit of the doubt. Reactionaries don't have actual ideals as far as I care
I was raised in a very conservative fundamentalist Christian culture, and was constantly told I couldn't be a Christian for feeling the way I did or having strong opinions on certain things. It's a big part of why I walked away from the church and religion.
They get called Nazi and bigots the way Kanye West was. So clearly male celebrities get treated worse for voicing there political beliefs then women are. Its way worse to call someone a bigot then it is to call someone a witch.
As a Christian, I second this comment. Even if someone is doing things that we would believe could lead to demonic oppression, you still shouldn't call it out online. I think most Christians would agree that's inappropriate behavior.
I'm a straight man and an atheist, and I've been a Taylor Swift fan for twenty years. Her talent just keeps on growing, and she is a sweet and caring person. I don't understand why anyone would hate on her.
She’s an example of a talented, happy, and successful woman outside the strict gender norms imposed by fundamentalist evangelical Christianity. She’s also a Christian with a vastly different theological outlook than this demographic. To them, she could have been their “champion” but she chose to live her life differently. That’s why the vitriol against her from that camp is so persistent.
No. She completely conforms to gender norms. Taylor is exploiting this issue for attention and fame and the Christians are also exploiting this issue for attention and fame. They are two sides of the same coin.
Not really because traditionally women are not supposed to be the main providers conforming to it would be following a stereotype that they want her to follow and if she doesn't conform to there cult they see that as woke some people fear what they don't understand so they call anything they don't understand as corrupt or woke if she conformed to it she would have settled down and popped out multiple kids in the country somewhere and stopped making music she never stopped making music and she didn't change her parties she stayed consistent in her beliefs there's different versions of Christianity too and sometimes evangelicals have no respect for religious boundaries it's okay to spread the word of God but pushing it on people is disrespectful that's not what God wanted that's what they wanted when they can't control women they automatically gets demonized as a witch. She talks about this in her reputation album too.
This is a common talking point among Christian fundamentalists. When I came out as gay at 17, many of the adult Christians around me at the time told me that I would never be happy, that’d I’d never get married or have a family, that I would see God’s judgement in my life, and that’d I’d get sick and die of AIDS. It was disgusting behavior from people I looked up to while growing up in the church. It definitely opened my eyes and made me take a long hard look at Christianity. I still considered myself a Christian when I came out, but seeing how Christians around me reacted to my coming out made it very clear to me there was no room for a person like me in the church. I consider myself agnostic atheist now .
@@MrBubba893 Fuck, that so disgusting! 😠It wouldn’t surprise me that they are claiming to be good people, too😅 Shame on them! It’s very understandable that you became an atheist after that. You got to see with your own eyes how manipulative and controlling Christianity can be. I hope you are doing better now and have been able to heal ❤ I can imagine that it was a really tough experience!
I never really felt any way about Taylor Swift. Until almost every conservative I know decided she's the worst thing ever. Her music may not be my genre, but I sure appreciate her now. :)
Why? Because she is exploiting political partasinship to increase her fame? Why would you ever appreciate someone for exploiting issues like this? Its lazy artistically and considering how emotionally invested people are in there political parties it could be argued that she is emotionally manipulating people for money.
One of my biggest beefs with Christianity is their view on mental health. I must not have prayed enough, been faithful enough, something I did/didn't do caused my depression.
Yeah... Christians love to tell other Christians they're not actually Christian. I remember a Christian woman asking me what made me a Christian. I proudly told her because I believed in God and Jesus and I was a kind person. She immediately shook her head no, argued and proceeded to belittle me. That's when I knew I wanted nothing to do with those types of people. I still believe in God and Jesus still inspires me but I consider myself to have my own special religion 💖
UGH!!! I cannot stand the freakin idiotic "you get what you deserve", meaning "Hell". It's such an absurdly EVIL belief system and this girl doesn't even realize how evil it actually is. I'm often amazed at what people believe, and appalled about what they embrace.
@@DRayL_ I agree I’m an atheist too but a central tenant of Jesus’s teaching was Judge Not Lest Ye Be Judged and it’s God’s job to be judgmental not human who should love one another. Just trying to point out to the believers it’s not their place to say others are sinners
lol I’ve seen a vid of people ragging on ice spice calling her demonic for dumb hand symbols but now they defending her after Taylor shook her head when she said “thank god”wtf
Also, I was a chronically ill child and I got this shit when my mom went through some religious phases. I got all sorts of toxic messages about traumatic and painful things that happened because god was punishing me. I am a natural skeptic. I couldn’t get behind Santa as a kid and only believed enough in the surface to participate in the fun. So I didn’t buy into the religion but I still absorbed that shit… that I must be a bad person if I’m going through hardship and pain. It’s bad. I have plenty of actual ‘satanic’ music she can church out. The members probably aren’t satanists, but they like pissing off these people with satanic messages and imagery.
I’m a Christian who’s more agonstic, very much into witchcraft, I’m bisexual and I love science So much so I wanna be a forensic scientist I have witchcraft items and I’m not possessed by a demon
Thank you so much for doing this video! I grew up Evangelical & wasn't until my late 20's that I really began to question my beliefs. I went through a huge phase of reading about other religions. I still consider myself a Christian, but I'm a liberal Democrat. I read the bible, but I do not attend church because I cannot find one liberal enough. I do not preach to people. I instead chose to live as Jesus did. Loving and accepting of all kinds of people. This current world is so full of hate and I'm honestly so sickened of how so called Christians act these days. Jesus would hate Christianity today. So many people use it to be hateful, disgusting, judgmental and xenophobic towards others. Instead of showing love, compassion. Not to mention all the conspiracy theories that further divide humanity. They want to burn the world down and it's disgusting! The USA was built on religious FREEDOM. We all have the right to practice whatever religion we want. We all have the right to choose how we want to live in this world. However, you should NEVER force your beliefs down peoples throats, and religion should NEVER come between the law & basic human rights! I support freedom of religion. I support freedom of gender, I support the LGBTQ community. I support the right to choose abortion and birth control. I support immigration. These are all basic human rights. ❤️
I wouldn't say to look for a "liberal church", look for a God Fearing Church if you're serious. It's also important that we're not creating false Gods that conveniently serve all of our fleshly desires and share all our beliefs. Let's serve The Jesus of The Bible. Jesus accepted all kinds of sinful people willing to Humble themselves and repent. Meaning they completely turned away from Sin. Then he forgave them. Also you mention Christians are "judgmental" I would encourage you to read John 7:24 which tells Christians to judge righteously. So I would ask the question, Are you following a "god" that conveniently lines up with all your beliefs or are you following Jesus? The Bible categorizes judgement into two categories Unrighteous and Righteous judgement (John 7:24, Matthew 7). Revelation 3:15-16: "15 I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were either one or the other! 16 So, because you are lukewarm-neither hot nor cold-I am about to spit you out of my mouth."
Omg I just started the video and I’m already about to throw hands. 🤣 I am a very strong Christian, but also a serial Swiftie. I can love God and Taylor at the same time and it is PERFECTLY FINE I am so tired of all these people saying things like this about her. To all those people who think she’s the devil, I only have one thing to say to you… you need to calm down *edit Ok I’ve watched the whole video and these are my final thoughts. First off, ummm honey ONLY GOD CAN CAST OUT DEMONS. So that lady just spoke blasphemy by saying she cast out a demon. 🤣 Second: yes, if you don’t act a certain way around certain Christian’s, they will accuse you of not being a true Christian. My own mother told me that I wasn’t a true Christian because I wanted to move out and get my own apartment at 21. I literally had to sign the lease and move my stuff into my apartment behind their backs. They didn’t know about it until they discovered most of my clothes were missing. And I did this behind their backs cause I was terrified of them. My mom also told me that she could feel a demonic presence in the house and that it was my fault cause I allowed satan into my life. It’s wild out there, folks
It's fine so long as you're not worshiping taylor swift as an Idol. Some people are really weird about doing stuff like that. People even tried to worship Moses's bones so God hid them. As far as her content and her character, I don't know enough about it. I do know the Bible tells us we will know them by their Fruit Matt. 7:15-20. There's also some truth in what you're saying about casting out demons. It is also True that God has given authority to His people to cast out Demons in his name Mark.16. We couldn't do this on our own, but because of God.
Not a fan of Taylor Swift music (I like metal and electronic), but you know what? After hearing her speak on whats important to her, I can say I'm a fan of her as a person. Its refreshing to know there are goodhearted Christians still out there (I'm an ex-Christian, atheist and once you're outside of that box you realize how bigoted and evil a lot of people pushing that belief system are). But again... I'm glad there are still some Christians out there pushing for BASIC HUMAN RIGHTS. Its so sad we have to worry about things that seem so basic and simple (like woman's reproductive rights, or trans people existing without being charged with fraud? The f?). Its wild to me.
Thanks for the video! I heard a lot of the talk growing up from people like the "karma is a god" chick. It caused me to think I couldn't get pregnant because I was doing something wrong, I was sinning or sinned. Turns out the women in my family has a history of fibroids they didn't tell me about. So god wasn't punishing me, all I would have had to do it more extensive doctor visits and I'd have kids. I'm 47 and going to have a full hysterectomy in Nov. I literally started growing the fibroid as soon as I hit puberty, I didn't stand a chance. It's sized currently, compared to a 4 1/2 old fetus. SIGH. So to the people struggling, there's NO entity punishing you, take care of yourself, doctors and science are a beautiful thing! You can be WHOLE.
oh good I'm glad my depression issues from my abusive parents are just my sins! It couldn't have possibly been that the abuse I received was wrong! If only I had found her sooner then I wouldn't have spent so much of my adult life unpacking my childhood and growing as a person from it.
Random fact but im autistic and for some reason havent liked a single youtube video ive ever watched, ive been watching your channel for 6 years, first video ive liked (soz lol)
I am a Christian, I am gay and married, my wife is a Christian, I am a Swifty and I HATE the way these ppl use a beautiful religion as a harbinger of hate. True Christianity, the true teachings of Jesus is NOT NOT NOT about hate!!!
as someone who was atheist for a long, long time. Who recently turned to christianity, i couldnt agree more but its NOT just christians. My catholic friend is actually worse then nearly every christian i've spoken to and treats me as if im stupid, small, and can't think because i refuse to follow Catholicism because i don't like how possessive and aggressive they are with what you can and cannot believe. Its just a shame that religion was created to insight division and only a handful of people can see it. I'd never insult someone for their beliefs but its time the world wake up, and realize that this isnt what jesus had in mind. Religion is the true evil because it divides each group. You can love god, and believe in god, without needing a label of a religion.... thats only purpose is division. My catholic friend also told me i cannot be saved even if i turn to god because i havent been baptized. So encouraging right!
Hey, Jaclyn, Bethany’s (from GirlDefined) husband, Dav, has started deconstructing and that might be something that you’re interested in making a video about
I love it when people who have had little life experience tell me (in mid-life) and everyone else what's what. Taylor is great. Does Traci have an opinion on Halloween? I bet she does...
Happy Birthday Jaclyn. I wish everyone a happiest of birthday's and also I believe that no matter what age we turn in 2024 that everyone should celebrate it in any way that they can and do it the best that they want to with friends and family. It should be celebrated in an awesome way.
I have seen this video of Taylor Swift having a heated conversation about her Christian values I am not Christian I am agnostic but this is when I gained so much respect for Taylor Swift
If that woman thinks anything bad happening to you is the result of you being a sinner I demand she explain SIDS. Did the infant sin? Did god punish the parents for sins by killing an innocent baby? I couldn't follow a god like that.
I'm no swifty. But I respect her talent and work ethic and saying what so many of us Christians are thinking. We can be Christian, and because of that feel it's absolutely imperative to stand up for human rights, the lbgtqi+, women's rights, etc. Unlike the fundamentalists that just hate everyone.
Actually romans 1:26 is actually specifically talking about sexual practices and offerings offered up to the gods Liber and Bacchas. Here is an line from a greek/roman mythology book "In addition, during the festival offered to Bacchus, the Bacchanalia, drinking, and sexual rituals were performed to Liber " If you read 1:24‐29 its very clear thats what its talking about Edit: take note that Liber lower half like the god pan was half goat and he had horns and a 3 feet long ding dong. Yeah shoulda gone further to Exodus 21 verse 22 says fetuses are property and if killed or lost you are subject to a fine.
- And this isn't my nose. It's a false one. - Well? - We did do the nose. - The nose? - And the hat. But she is a witch ! - Did you dress her up like this? - No, no! - Yes. A bit. - She has got a wart.
These people would have a heart attack if they ever watched a Poets of the Fall video. And Poets is super tame compared to your average Heavy Metal band.
tbf crystals aren't demonic but are pretty stupid and selfish. it takes advantage of suffering people by selling them a placebo that won't actually help them
Hey Jaclyn!! I just wanted to put my two cents in and say that I am also a devout Christian. I love gay people and I have a variety of different friends. All races, all colors, all backgrounds, all sexual orientations. I do not care how others choose to live their lives as long as they are kind to others. You do you! Those fundamentalist Christians give the us normal Christians a very bad name because people believe we are all like that. No! I cannot stand those "holier than thou" Christians!!
As a Christian myself gotta love how how a vast majority of Christians ironically forget about the don't judge people and more over the whole Hate Gay people thing is just stupid
Seeing the phrase family values so many times, when I was a teenager, definitely was something that I thought made no sense, or just American Values. Especially if it stated thay being LGBT was wrong or that immigrants didn't deserve rights.
I love how most Christians think they’re right but everyone else is wrong, even other Christians bc they don’t “hate” everyone different from them.. it’s actually entertaining lol
Well, yoga _is_ a form of Hindu religious practice originally. If you believe that you shouldn't do any non-Christian religious practice, then yeah, yoga is off-limits.
lol I love when you mock voices because I do that too but really, I have to try to think of it as, “what are they saying?” In order for me to get over mocking a theist’s voice I have to pretend that they’re defending my side and all of a sudden, they sound fine. It’s just so hard not to mock them when they’re saying such insanely stupid things on top of a pseudo-authoritative arrogantly ignorant tone of voice.
Why are these people so triggered? She is not claiming to sing Christian music…. 🤦🏼♀️. People like these people cause more deconstruction than deconstructionists. “The call is coming from within the house”….
A fellow Christian might even say... that the amount of attention and assumptions these people are quite literally preaching about Taylor Swift is idolatry in itself...🤨
As a recently onboard Swiftie, you mentioning that Taylor Swift doesn't have to think like Westboro Baptist Church to be a Christian is a relief. I am now assured that I don't have to go to every single Taylor Swift concert, collect her merch, wear her fashions, follow her on Facebook and Twitter every five minutes, and hand out friendship bracelets to every Swiftie named Tom, Dick, and Harry to be a Swiftie. Thanks Jaclyn.
The thing that's ironic to me is that these people will point fingers at artists like Taylor Swift and call her demonic but then blindly follow people like Joel Osten and Kenneth Copeland. I don't listen to too much of Taylor's music and it's just not really my thing but I can admit her music is catchy and find myself occasionally in the mood to listen to pop but to call her demonic or a witch is laughable. Maybe it's because I am more into stuff like Suicide Silence and Cannibal Corpse so I am always used to people thinking that's demonic but come on.....
The reason for people suffering from depression and all that other stuff that fell out of her face is because of religion. They beat it in your head your whole life how you are nothing but a sinner and unworthy of any good in your life. Quite religion and you will be a kinder happier person. At least it was for me.
So she goes 'I'm not gonna say if Taylor does not know that she sings about demon, maybe she does know, who am I to judge... It's not like I can get into her head and see exactly what she feels and thinks...' and in the same breath she says that Taylor is not a christian and does not love Jesus. Like Ms Girl, how do you know that? HOW DO YOU KNOW? Ridiculous smh