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Christopher Hitchens Gets OWNED after asking William Lane Craig on GOD & Christ| EPIC DEBATE Moment 

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Time Stamp:
0:00-0:22 Intro
0:23-0:44 False Religion and Evil
0:44-1:20 Born an Atheist Baby or Wahabi Muslim
1:20-2:08 False Sect of Christianity
2:08-2:35 comment
2:35-3:14 Saints Rising from DEAD
3:14-3:30 comment
3:30-3:52 Miracle Performer and Objections
3:52-4:14 comment
4:14-5:09 Exorcism doesn't prove Jesus' Divinity
5:09-5:41 Outro
Here’s an EPIC moment of the debate between late Christopher Hitchens and William Lane Craig on God, objections to Christianity and the person of Jesus Christ.
About Christopher Hitchens:
Christopher Eric Hitchens (13 April 1949 - 15 December 2011) was a British author and journalist who is widely regarded as one of the most influential atheists of the 20th and 21st centuries. Author of 18 books on faith, culture, politics, and literature, he was born and educated in Britain, graduating in the 1970s from Oxford. In the early 1980s, he emigrated to the United States and wrote for The Nation and Vanity Fair. Known as one of the four horsemen of New Atheism, he gained prominence as a columnist and speaker. His epistemological razor, which states that "what can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence", is still of mark in philosophy and law. (wiki)
About William Lane Craig
William Lane Craig (born August 23, 1949) is an American analytic philosopher, Christian apologist, author, and Wesleyan theologian. He is currently a Professor of Philosophy at Houston Christian University and a Research Professor of Philosophy at Biola University's Talbot School of Theology. Dr. Craig has updated and defended the Kalam cosmological argument for the existence of God. He has also published work where he argues in favor of the historical plausibility of the resurrection of Jesus (wikipedia)
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@nagaseminarian
@nagaseminarian 9 месяцев назад
Here’s an EPIC moment of the debate between late Christopher Hitchens and William Lane Craig on God, objections to Christianity and the person of Jesus Christ. Check the description for time stamp. Thanks for watching!!
@user-qw3rq6xv3n
@user-qw3rq6xv3n 6 месяцев назад
Nobody "rose from the dead", this is just Christian fundamentalism.
@Harp620
@Harp620 6 месяцев назад
​​@@user-qw3rq6xv3n it is a testimony of eyewitnesses
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 6 месяцев назад
@@Harp620 "it is a testimony of eyewitnesses" What are their names? Can you name one? LMAO Since the 1990s, when DNA testing was first introduced, Innocence Project researchers have reported that 73 percent of the 239 convictions overturned through DNA testing were based on eyewitness testimony. One third of these overturned cases rested on the testimony of two or more mistaken eyewitnesses. How could so many eyewitnesses be wrong? Studies have shown that mistaken eyewitness testimony accounts for about half of all wrongful convictions. Researchers at Ohio State University examined hundreds of wrongful convictions and determined that roughly 52 percent of the errors resulted from eyewitness mistakes.
@sonu8034
@sonu8034 6 месяцев назад
​@@user-qw3rq6xv3nwell the resurrection theory is the only theory taht makes sense of the weird behaviour of the apostles
@user-qw3rq6xv3n
@user-qw3rq6xv3n 6 месяцев назад
@@sonu8034 I have a theory, that they were all high. And lots of people were going around at that time leading cults like Jesus and saying they were sons of God or sun Gods. So nothing weird for 32 AD.
@kingofnothing2260
@kingofnothing2260 7 месяцев назад
I'm a Christian, but don't see how Christopher was owned here.
@sam-zn7re
@sam-zn7re 7 месяцев назад
me too it mostly title and ai voice speaking overall this seems like a friendly debate
@Sammo212
@Sammo212 7 месяцев назад
it is unfortunately the "youtube game" where a sensationalist headline is used to draw in more views.
@kingofnothing2260
@kingofnothing2260 7 месяцев назад
@@joshuaflowers3997 I understand the misfalls. I still don't see it as being OWNED.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 7 месяцев назад
@@joshuaflowers3997 And he is biased as being a Christian. LMAO
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 7 месяцев назад
@@kingofnothing2260 I would say that Hitchens actually wiped the floor with WLC without WLC even noticing. LMAO
@juliaklein9217
@juliaklein9217 7 месяцев назад
This was such a fun debate. Both of these men were very charismatic and didnt take themselves too seriously. But they didn't hold back either.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 7 месяцев назад
It is not Hitchens's fault that theists can't comprehend things.
@juliaklein9217
@juliaklein9217 7 месяцев назад
@@LGpi314 huh?
@Epicurus48
@Epicurus48 7 месяцев назад
@@juliaklein9217 nah you just can't comprehend LGpi314's comment
@juliaklein9217
@juliaklein9217 7 месяцев назад
@@Epicurus48 apparently.
@mollkatless
@mollkatless 7 месяцев назад
@@Epicurus48 Well, the comment is not a very smart comment, so yeah, hard to know what the writer intends to say...
@ftg3183
@ftg3183 9 месяцев назад
So where did he get owned he's just asking questions and getting Answers.... Craig has my respect for Answering directly..👍
@Food.97359
@Food.97359 9 месяцев назад
Part of RU-vid lingo*
@tgpeeler
@tgpeeler 8 месяцев назад
Yeah. Owned. Destroyed. All bullshit.
@gknight4719
@gknight4719 8 месяцев назад
@@tgpeeler like the god hypothesis!
@tgpeeler
@tgpeeler 8 месяцев назад
@@gknight4719 um, afraid not. I meant the lingo. Best arguments win. That’s all. And it’s not a God “hypothesis.” 😎
@gknight4719
@gknight4719 8 месяцев назад
@@tgpeeler Hi if it's not a hypothesis, then, you know there is a god or just believe there is one? what is your testable repeatable evidence of such a god? I have searched for over 40 years with no luck, or do you just have faith?
@ithinkiknowme6450
@ithinkiknowme6450 3 месяца назад
This is the most honest use of click baits ever..the problem is people fail to understand how click baits function..
@thuscomeguerriero
@thuscomeguerriero 7 месяцев назад
I must've missed the getting owned part..where was that again?
@adriandelacruz-lz7vk
@adriandelacruz-lz7vk 6 месяцев назад
He admitted being clumsy. For me, right there he was owned. He threw a question he knew would support his argument but Craig noticed it. Craig owns him by being more conscious and aware of every little point. It is subtle but definitely owned for me.
@zkring
@zkring 6 месяцев назад
@@adriandelacruz-lz7vk If you consider that to be owned you should look up Hitchens owning people. You are in for a treat
@joelfigueroa1309
@joelfigueroa1309 6 месяцев назад
i agree that the "getting owned" claim is a bit of click bait. I'm a Christian and I'm not a fan of that. I also miss Hitchens. I obviously don't agree with his world view but enjoyed his wit and humor. Peter is fun to watch too.
@bibleburner8426
@bibleburner8426 5 месяцев назад
Admitting that a clumsy question was posed is getting owned? I'd say it's being honest, and it's more honest than I've ever seen a Christian be.
@joelfigueroa1309
@joelfigueroa1309 5 месяцев назад
I love when someone groups a whole population of people together based off the behavior of certain individuals. I find it super useful when done by race. @@bibleburner8426
@DGaia007
@DGaia007 8 месяцев назад
I loved to watch these debates as an atheist. WLC was always a huge problem, today I recognize his knowledge even more. Praise the Lord.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 8 месяцев назад
"WLC was always a huge problem" Are we talking about the same low-bar Bill? "Praise the Lord." WLC could not provide any evidence. Can you?
@jjevans1693
@jjevans1693 7 месяцев назад
Without lies religion dies
@_sol.invictus__
@_sol.invictus__ 7 месяцев назад
TLDR: You met a nice christian lady and decided to throw away your critical thinking in exchange for a future with her. I dont blame you. She's hot!
@vmptrinity4474
@vmptrinity4474 9 месяцев назад
Craig should have chosen Atheist, because if Hitchens was a Muslim, the only thing we will hear in the interview is "Allahu Akbar.... Booooom!". 😅
@Food.97359
@Food.97359 9 месяцев назад
I have no preference for both worldviews either
@wisdomarchives12
@wisdomarchives12 9 месяцев назад
An agnostic would be a better option.
@bryancsimmons
@bryancsimmons 9 месяцев назад
I wouldn't say either person got "owned". You really should post the link to the debate. It was really great for both sides.
@shortyshorts3471
@shortyshorts3471 9 месяцев назад
respectful Hitchens
@popland1977
@popland1977 8 месяцев назад
Hitch was pretty poor on most
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 8 месяцев назад
@@popland1977 It is not Hitchens's fault that you can't comprehend things.
@googlrc
@googlrc 7 месяцев назад
Hitchens’ arguments often were just linguistic traps… when he said “that was a clumsily asked question” he was lying. He was setting a trap and Lane Craig didn’t fall into it.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 7 месяцев назад
@@googlrc See my post above yours to answer your post.
@thisdays1823
@thisdays1823 9 месяцев назад
Really a crucial and difficult question from both sides.
@nagaseminarian
@nagaseminarian 9 месяцев назад
indeed!
@Zelielz1
@Zelielz1 5 месяцев назад
What? Christopher wasn't owned at all in this video WTF.
@2l84me8
@2l84me8 3 месяца назад
Clickbait as usual. You wish you could “own” Hitchens.
@chrisctlr
@chrisctlr 7 месяцев назад
You (and WLC) need to reread the account in Matthew. The saints coming out of the tombs is mentioned while speaking of the crucifixion, but the verse explicitly says, "The tombs also were opened. And many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep were raised, and coming out of the tombs **after his resurrection** they went into the holy city and appeared to many."
@raphaelfeneje486
@raphaelfeneje486 9 месяцев назад
Beautiful video!! Really enjoyed the full debate!
@nagaseminarian
@nagaseminarian 9 месяцев назад
thank you. God bless!
@irishnz_9558
@irishnz_9558 7 месяцев назад
​@nagaseminarian which God? There are loads apparently!
@raphaelfeneje486
@raphaelfeneje486 7 месяцев назад
@@irishnz_9558 Present a logical evidence for the other gods and I'll take your Seriously 🥱
@serpentsepia6638
@serpentsepia6638 6 месяцев назад
​@@irishnz_9558There's only one God. The rest are demons posing as gods.
@TheGlobuleReturns
@TheGlobuleReturns 3 месяца назад
@@nagaseminarian I thought lying was sinful? There’s no way even your brain rot confirmation bias chasing ass think this is an example of someone being ‘owned’.
@HansZarkovPhD
@HansZarkovPhD 5 месяцев назад
Hitch didnt get owned.
@ThinkAboutIt-xr1le
@ThinkAboutIt-xr1le 6 месяцев назад
I must have missed the owning. The only rebuttals in the clip seem to come from AI lady voice not Craig. And Craig, Hitch and the AI lady voice all seemed to be an aware that Jesus wasn’t accused of blasphemy for claiming to be God- the accusation stemmed from the claim Jesus was sanctioned to invoke the name of Yahweh.
@tedgrant2
@tedgrant2 8 месяцев назад
The Church in my village has been abandoned. The roof is leaking and the windows have been broken. I think the Devil is winning !
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 8 месяцев назад
Or people don't believe in this nonsense anymore.
@tedgrant2
@tedgrant2 8 месяцев назад
@@LGpi314 I was using the word "Devil" in a metaphorical sense. It's a bit like when Jesus said we should hate our families. Context ! Interpretation !
@kapitan19969838
@kapitan19969838 3 месяца назад
The Devil already lost
@tedgrant2
@tedgrant2 3 месяца назад
@@kapitan19969838 There is plenty of evidence that he is still alive and kicking. You might have noticed that all good things come to an end. That's him !
@scottythetrex5197
@scottythetrex5197 7 месяцев назад
Not seeing how Hitchens "got owned" here.
@unknowninfinium4353
@unknowninfinium4353 6 месяцев назад
Start with the first question then slowly keep progressing. It's just like realising how in the deep you are, and waiting to realise the Hitchslaps you would be getting. Or better yet - B**tchslaps.
@adriandelacruz-lz7vk
@adriandelacruz-lz7vk 6 месяцев назад
He admitted being clumsy. For me, right there he was owned. He threw a question he knew would support his argument but Craig noticed it. Craig owns him by being more conscious and aware of every little point. It is subtle but definitely owned for me.
@scottythetrex5197
@scottythetrex5197 6 месяцев назад
@@adriandelacruz-lz7vk No, you're just a Jesus fanboy.
@srrlIdl
@srrlIdl 6 месяцев назад
@@adriandelacruz-lz7vk Asking a clumsy question and admitting it, isn't being 'owned'.
@TheSpacePlaceYT
@TheSpacePlaceYT 5 месяцев назад
@@scottythetrex5197 What is bro on about?
@geolitz2665
@geolitz2665 5 месяцев назад
Where is the owning of Hitchens?
@doublethebenjamin8185
@doublethebenjamin8185 7 месяцев назад
Does anybody have a link to the original video?
@nagaseminarian
@nagaseminarian 7 месяцев назад
please check "Does God Exist? Debate between WLC and Hitchens.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 5 месяцев назад
And you will see that this channel is a bait-and-click dishonest.
@AldoRKO100
@AldoRKO100 6 месяцев назад
Can anyone tell me where Hitchens gets owned?
@kapitan19969838
@kapitan19969838 3 месяца назад
It starts at 0:00
@Jeff.Paborada
@Jeff.Paborada 6 месяцев назад
Where is the owning part?
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 6 месяцев назад
I was wondering the same. I also thought that lying is a sin but apparently, it is not for this religious channel.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 6 месяцев назад
@mountcalvaryway :"In Lane Craig’s humility and graciousness. " Wy do theists lie so much? Low-bar Bill is full of bullcrap and fallacies.
@Jeff.Paborada
@Jeff.Paborada 5 месяцев назад
@mountcalvaryway just be honest.
@TheSpacePlaceYT
@TheSpacePlaceYT 5 месяцев назад
@@LGpi314 Lying is still a sin lol Just cuz a religious person did one sin does not indicate all religion is bad and all religious people are hypocritical. Isn't the entire message of the Bible indicating that humans aren't perfect? Did you miss the point when you investigated biblical scriptures? Or wait you didn't investigate biblical scriptures because you care less whether or not it is true.
@MHBCtube
@MHBCtube Месяц назад
In the whole debate, this was the only part where I found WLC argument to be ridiculous and in a sense proofing Hitchens point. You can see the smile and joy on Hitchens face as he listens to WLC answer. For the poster to think that out of the whole debate, this is the part that Hitchens was “owned” is like a child throwing tantrum at something s/he doesn’t like
@opindras.bangerh129
@opindras.bangerh129 7 месяцев назад
The answer to Hitchens question: Luke 13:2-5 KJV - And Jesus answering said unto them, Suppose ye that these Galilaeans were SINNERS above all the Galilaeans, because they suffered such things? I tell you, Nay: but, EXCEPT YE REPENT, YE SHALL ALL LIKEWISE PERISH. Or those eighteen, upon whom the tower in Siloam fell, and slew them, think ye that they were sinners above all men that dwelt in Jerusalem? I tell you, Nay: but, EXCEPT YE REPENT, YE SHALL ALL LIKEWISE PERISH.
@nagaseminarian
@nagaseminarian 7 месяцев назад
amen.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 7 месяцев назад
@@nagaseminarian Why did you lying about WLC owning Hitchens? What magic did WLC show for evidence?
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 7 месяцев назад
Show me the historical documents where jesus was called by name outside of the bible.
@Food.97359
@Food.97359 9 месяцев назад
According to google there are at least 10000 recognised distinct religions. It was a cordial interaction. More of this please
@nagaseminarian
@nagaseminarian 9 месяцев назад
sure!
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 8 месяцев назад
@@nagaseminarian There have been so many of them and none of them can show any evidence for any of gods existence. ZERO, NADA, ZILCH. You are full of it.
@lionbolt2136
@lionbolt2136 8 месяцев назад
​​@@LGpi314and you have nothing good to bring to the table as an Atheist, as I recollect Atheism believes that nothing exploded, you don't know what came before the big bang, you only surmize what "could" have been. The fact that you have to ask for people to prove something to you when you could go and look for yourself already shows that you've made up your mind on this issue. It isn't a matter of evidence but rather you being your own God. You determine your subjective morality, you decide what's right and what's wrong, not some God that is foreign to you. It's sad, because alot of you atheists are very intelligent, it's just pride and ego got in the way of you actually finding true meaning and purpose in this life which is something that Atheism can't provide an explanation for or doesn't believe in. I'll be praying for you though, that your heart of stone becomes a heart of flesh.
@luboshcamber1992
@luboshcamber1992 7 месяцев назад
@LGpi314 Ok. You just made a claim. Now prove it. Prove us there is no God.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 7 месяцев назад
@@luboshcamber1992 Do you have comprehension issues? Where is the evidence? Teapot, black, kettle. LMAO
@Krishna-iy5wy
@Krishna-iy5wy 7 месяцев назад
Still waiting for that part...
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 7 месяцев назад
If you are waiting for "OWNED" part then you will have to wait forever. LMAO
@jerichosecretarial9937
@jerichosecretarial9937 5 месяцев назад
For all his supposed knowledge, Hitchens now finally knows in eternity
@Louis13XIII
@Louis13XIII 11 дней назад
Where did he got owned? Not that religious people making up scenarios in their head and believing in them surprises me
@AtamMardes
@AtamMardes 7 месяцев назад
"Religion began when the first scoundrel met the first fool." Voltaire
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 7 месяцев назад
That is so true. Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful.
@TexasHoosier3118
@TexasHoosier3118 5 месяцев назад
Who was this forst scoundrel? Who was this first fool? Where did this happen? When did this happen? So it goes with atheist arguments. No evidence, just baseless suppositions.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 5 месяцев назад
@@TexasHoosier3118 Ask god? LMAO "So it goes with atheist arguments" Maybe you should learn what atheist is. "No evidence, just baseless suppositions." What evidence do you need for atheism? LMAO. Maybe you need education to comprehend things.
@alainstasse4602
@alainstasse4602 5 месяцев назад
What if Voltaire was the scoundrel.........
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 5 месяцев назад
@@alainstasse4602 I highly doubt that. Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful.
@amac9044
@amac9044 8 месяцев назад
Still waiting for the part where Hitchens "got owned".... To make it worse, you strawmanned him at the end of your video... He never once asserted that's Jesus was "merely an exorcist"... He's simply questioning if we have sufficient reason to believe he was DIVINE...
@heythere6983
@heythere6983 8 месяцев назад
It’s easy to be overly skeptical . I could argue I have no way of knowing if a bird that’s on a tree in front of me is real , it flies away and I spend spend the rest of my life being skeptical . Was it a hologram? Delusion? Etc. So you can question anything until you’re blue in the face, that doesn’t make you smart , at a certain point being smart is knowing you have enough pointing to the truth .
@annep.1905
@annep.1905 7 месяцев назад
No he's not! It's a debate, not an inquest. That's supposed to be a "gotcha" question.
@serpentsepia6638
@serpentsepia6638 6 месяцев назад
Hitchins was owned at the very beginning of the video. The problem is, the video was edited incorrectly and only showed a clip of a short friendly debate on one point.
@amac9044
@amac9044 6 месяцев назад
@@serpentsepia6638 Coming from someone who watched the debate IN ITS ENTIRETY, at no point did Hitchens get "owned"...Craig committed logical fallacy after logical fallacy and Hitchens knocked them down one by one...
@amac9044
@amac9044 6 месяцев назад
@@annep.1905 There's nothing wrong with a "gotcha question" if it's reasonable and relevant to the debate...The whole point of the discussion is whether or not there's truth to Christianity. And determining whether or not we have evidence to suggest Jesus actually WAS divine is very important to that point...
@Greg-go8ep
@Greg-go8ep 7 месяцев назад
a collegial, intellectual, well articulated discussion where two individuals completely disagree....Imagine that in 2023!
@Brakathor
@Brakathor Месяц назад
It's actually super embarrassing how the commenter doesn't understand that the question of whether or not Jesus was a common exorcist was a BASIC burden of proof question. He's not claiming Jesus was a common exorcist. He's asking "How do you know he wasn't?" It goes back to burden of proof. The commenter owned herself.
@MrBeen992
@MrBeen992 6 месяцев назад
Can somebody point me to the part where Hitchens was owned ?
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 6 месяцев назад
There is none. This is typical theistic bait.
@kapitan19969838
@kapitan19969838 3 месяца назад
It starts at 0:00
@MrBeen992
@MrBeen992 3 месяца назад
​@@kapitan19969838Thanks, fundamentalist American Evangelical !
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 2 месяца назад
@@kapitan19969838 LMAO. Your low-bar Bill is full of bullcrap and fallacies. Hitchens wiped the floor with Bill.
@Demonizer5134
@Demonizer5134 7 месяцев назад
I saw a great conversation between 2 intellectuals. I saw no one get "owned". What's the deal with the dishonest clickbait title?
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 7 месяцев назад
Typical thiest's thing on YT.
@user-wu9mq7fh2s
@user-wu9mq7fh2s 5 месяцев назад
I am not a Christian but do agree with @kingofnothing2260. Just adding a comment to a debate neither proves nor supports as it just removes any right of reply. Just show the debate and save the manipulation and an attempted propaganda. Hitchens is hard to argue against unless you have faith, which you cannot argue with as it is irrational!
@christianblack9426
@christianblack9426 6 месяцев назад
Christian here, but definitely not subscribing to this channel, as it uses false sensationalist headlines to get more views, and the robot voice too is annoying.
@BrianFedirko
@BrianFedirko 9 месяцев назад
Saying sombody doesn't possess the ability to cast out unicorns is bogus at best, which is exactly what Hitchins is saying. Belief in demons is a very negative break with claims of having a positive god, especially if you make the claim that the god created all and knows all... Otherwise this god knows and acts very stupid, which you shouldn't take as a good sign of words to be adhered to. ☮
@DankillerGTAhero4
@DankillerGTAhero4 8 месяцев назад
The origin of demons or evil spirits are not a direct creations of God, but rather a perversion brought upon by the sins of mankind. I suggest you check out this topic by researching and reading the book of Enoch and the book of Jasher. Im not trying to change your mind but its a very interesting topic even if you dont believe.
@jorgevalenzuela2496
@jorgevalenzuela2496 8 месяцев назад
If you can’t be civil with someone’s beliefs then don’t be surprised when they don’t listen to you. Part of intelligence is using tact. Also the Bible narrative is very clear on “why” these things occur. To keep asking the same questions over and over. I don’t particularly understand it.
@feonor26
@feonor26 7 месяцев назад
​@@DankillerGTAhero4According to your own Bible you are wrong there. God created everything in the Bible and the demons are angels that revolted together with Lucifer and were cast out from Heaven. Makes you wonder if Heaven is so perfect if a revolt amongs the angels can start? So yes, God does not get a free pass here.
@DankillerGTAhero4
@DankillerGTAhero4 7 месяцев назад
@@feonor26that is incorrect, brother. None of the canonized books in the bible attributes the origin of demons. The idea of demons being fallen angels is a very common misconception born from pop culture. Its the same as how people (who dont read the bible) believe that hell is the kingdom of Satan who somehow has the authority to punish sinners for God despite him being a rebel against God when the reality is that Satan has never set foot in hell ever( not yet) and is instead actively roaming the world. And as of the revolt in heaven, Lucifer rebelled against God out of sheer pride, vanity and envy. God made Lucifer as one the brightest most beautiful angels in Heaven, given authority over music and precious gems. Yet, not only did Lucifer disobeyed God by not kneeling and showing reverence to God's image and likeness(mankind) but also wanted to become God himself. This is hardly a good cause to rebelled against the Almighty.
@Papa-dopoulos
@Papa-dopoulos 7 месяцев назад
@@feonor26The simple truth is that smaller bad can be instrumental to the greater good (WITHIN REASON LOL). For example. I knew before having kids that they would rebel against me on a daily basis, and presto! Wouldn’t you know that my little prophecy came true. I try my very hardest to be a highly engaged, patient, and loving parent who really listens to them, and they’re great kids, but they of course occasionally steal things from each other, hit each other, lie, yell, and more. So, am I a bad father for doing this? Should I just not have had kids in the first place? Or is it that these negatives are part of a learning and growing process; a key building block of strong character. God is responsible in a limited sense for the bad that happens, yes. But finite bad and *ultimate* bad are two very different things. Even if the former is very very severe, there’s always the promise of an even more powerful good. And yes, I know you can go on referencing child s*x slavery and gratuitous genocide and all of these terrible atrocities, and by no means do I make light of them. But the Bible describes this life as a singular breath of air compared to the reality of our eternal state; a single second in an eternity. We don’t have the proper capacity in our minds to grasp the insignificance of even the most extreme suffering.
@aren8798
@aren8798 6 месяцев назад
Out of context… Just watch the whole debate
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 6 месяцев назад
That is just a bait, typical theists way to lie.
@seraphmcgregor927
@seraphmcgregor927 5 месяцев назад
I remember in one debate Craig said that he was not sure if God really exists. And is this the "aplogist" we're following?
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 5 месяцев назад
There is a reason we call him a low-bar Bill.
@jmac8561
@jmac8561 5 месяцев назад
I'm trying to find the part where Hitchens gets OWNED
@LesNessman2001
@LesNessman2001 9 месяцев назад
If William, in his “search”, realizes Islam is true, would he convert? Or be an atheist?
@joeturner9219
@joeturner9219 8 месяцев назад
Islam isn't true though so that is pointless to ask
@LesNessman2001
@LesNessman2001 8 месяцев назад
@@joeturner9219 if he finds it to be “true”? Would he convert?
@lucio989
@lucio989 8 месяцев назад
That’s a bad example. Islam teaches that the Bible is true. Islam is exactly what Jesus was warning against. Beware of false prophets. Islam is just a fulfilled prophecy of Jesus.
@jorgevalenzuela2496
@jorgevalenzuela2496 8 месяцев назад
@@LesNessman2001 yes if it were the truth. If being the operative word
@user-ni7qk9gc9c
@user-ni7qk9gc9c 7 месяцев назад
​@@joeturner9219it is lol
@Tsuma_Vento
@Tsuma_Vento 9 месяцев назад
Waiting for an atheist to come in and say Hitch didn't get owned...it's their nature to hopelessly resist.
@Food.97359
@Food.97359 9 месяцев назад
😂😂😂
@paulbeardsley4095
@paulbeardsley4095 8 месяцев назад
You honestly think he DID get owned?
@Tsuma_Vento
@Tsuma_Vento 8 месяцев назад
@@paulbeardsley4095 Thanks!
@paulbeardsley4095
@paulbeardsley4095 8 месяцев назад
@@Tsuma_Vento I guessed, rightly, that you are one of those people who interpret ANY response as proving your point. I suppose it's easier than answering the question.
@keenanmiller6231
@keenanmiller6231 8 месяцев назад
So you know the title was a deception and delight in the offense that people take expecting good faith and honesty ? What spirit is in you?
@leebennett1821
@leebennett1821 19 дней назад
We are all born with a lack of Belief in the Christian God the idea of Christian God has to be put there by others
@hurrikanehavok7313
@hurrikanehavok7313 5 дней назад
lol the part when he asked if banishing a demon meant he was correct. Yeah if I see someone banish a demon then I’m gonna listen to what they have to say. If you disagree why not just believe you re living in the matrix
@SirtubalotTX
@SirtubalotTX 7 месяцев назад
Much respect for Hitchens but Craig is a giant amongst men, and it was very interesting to watch Christopher try and lead William into a trap, to no avail. One of the best debates of our lifetime.
@joerobinson3545
@joerobinson3545 7 месяцев назад
Two brilliant men holding different positions, one posing a healthy scepticism, the other answering with scholarly interpretation…no bogusness or owning…just a wonderful conversation
@daddylee4216
@daddylee4216 7 месяцев назад
Rumor has it Hitchens now vehemently believes God exists, as well as hell....
@joerobinson3545
@joerobinson3545 7 месяцев назад
@@daddylee4216 I’m sure this is an ironic retort though I’m not quite sure of it’s landing
@daddylee4216
@daddylee4216 7 месяцев назад
@@joerobinson3545 k
@sie85
@sie85 6 месяцев назад
@@daddylee4216 yes, Hitchens is no longer an atheist.
@davidcardano963
@davidcardano963 5 месяцев назад
The last point was interesting in that the he couldn't convince the eyewitnesses present..
@cadmusravenstag4403
@cadmusravenstag4403 7 месяцев назад
"Owned" AKA your cheap clickbate for a debate that is 10 years old and has been watched thousands of times online. Stop trying to mislead people for views.
@luispalacio2080
@luispalacio2080 6 месяцев назад
gets owned? where? how?
@ScottKuruFreedom
@ScottKuruFreedom 4 месяца назад
You must have dementia
@luispalacio2080
@luispalacio2080 4 месяца назад
@@ScottKuruFreedom you must be 2 years old
@Zibit21
@Zibit21 7 месяцев назад
It's nice to see a video from a debate in which Hitchens doesn't dodge the topic... but then again it was him asking the questions...
@jeffersonneto1378
@jeffersonneto1378 5 месяцев назад
The problem with me as a Christian is that there are a lot of differences, how would we consider other views as heretics
@epicofatrahasis3775
@epicofatrahasis3775 8 месяцев назад
*The Enuma Elish would later be the inspiration for the Hebrew scribes who created the text now known as the biblical Book of Genesis.* Prior to the 19th century CE, the Bible was considered the oldest book in the world and its narratives were thought to be completely original. In the mid-19th century CE, however, European museums, as well as academic and religious institutions, sponsored excavations in Mesopotamia to find physical evidence for historical corroboration of the stories in the Bible. ***These excavations found quite the opposite, however, in that, once cuneiform was translated, it was understood that a number of biblical narratives were Mesopotamian in origin.*** *Famous stories such as the Fall of Man and the Great Flood were originally conceived and written down in Sumer,* translated and modified later in Babylon, and reworked by the Assyrians ***before they were used by the Hebrew scribes for the versions which appear in the Bible.*** ***In revising the Mesopotamian creation story for their own ends, the Hebrew scribes tightened the narrative and the focus but retained the concept of the all-powerful deity who brings order from chaos.*** Marduk, in the Enuma Elish, establishes the recognizable order of the world - *just as God does in the Genesis tale* - and human beings are expected to recognize this great gift and honor the deity through service. *"Enuma Elish - The Babylonian Epic of Creation - Full Text - World History Encyclopedia"* *"Sumerian Is the World's Oldest Written Language | ProLingo"* *"Sumerian Civilization: Inventing the Future - World History Encyclopedia"* *"The Myth of Adapa - World History Encyclopedia"* Also discussed by Professor Christine Hayes at Yale University in her 1st lecture of the series on the Hebrew Bible from 8:50 to 14:30 minutes, lecture 3 from 28:30 to 41:35 minutes, lecture 4 from 0:00 up to 21:30 minutes and 24:00 up to 35:30 minutes and lecture 7 from 24:20 to 25:10 minutes. From a Biblical scholar: "Many stories in the ancient world have their origins in other stories and were borrowed and modified from other or earlier peoples. *For instance, many of the stories now preserved in the Bible are* ***modified*** *versions of stories that existed in the cultures and traditions of Israel’s* ***older*** *contemporaries.* Stories about the creation of the universe, a cataclysmic universal flood, digging wells as land markers, the naming of important cultic sites, gods giving laws to their people, and even stories about gods decreeing the possession of land to their people were all part of the cultural and literary matrix of the ancient Near East. *Biblical scribes freely* ***adopted and modified*** *these stories as a means to express their own identity, origins, and customs."* *"Stories from the Bible"* by Dr Steven DiMattei, from his website *"Biblical Contradictions"* ------------------------------------------------------------------ In addition, look up the below articles. *"Yahweh was just an ancient Canaanite god. We have been deceived! - Escaping Christian Fundamentalism"* *"Debunking the Devil - Michael A. Sherlock (Author)"* *"The Greatest Trick Religion Ever Pulled: Convincing Us That Satan Exists | Atheomedy"* *"Zoroastrianism And Persian Mythology: The Foundation Of Belief"* (Scroll to the last section: Zoroastrianism is the Foundation of Western Belief) *"10 Ways The Bible Was Influenced By Other Religions - Listverse"* *"January | 2014 | Atheomedy"* - Where the Hell Did the Idea of Hell Come From? *"Retired bishop explains the reason why the Church invented "Hell" - Ideapod"* Watch *"The Origins of Salvation, Judgement and Hell"* by Derreck Bennett at Atheologica (Sensitive theists should only watch from 7:00 to 17:30 minutes as evangelical Christians are lambasted. He's a former theist and has been studying the scholarship and comparative religions for over 15 years) *"Top Ten Reasons Noah’s Flood is Mythology - The Sensuous Curmudgeon"* *"Forget about Noah's Ark; There Was No Worldwide Flood | Bible Interp"* *"The Search for Noah’s Flood - Biblical Archaeology Society"* *"Eridu Genesis - World History Encyclopedia"* *"The Atrahasis Epic: The Great Flood & the Meaning of Suffering - World History Encyclopedia"* Watch *"How Aron Ra Debunks Noah's Flood"* (8 part series debunking Noah's flood using multiple branches of science) *"The Adam and Eve myth - News24"* *"Before Adam and Eve - Psychology Today"* *"Gilgamesh vs. Noah - Wordpress"* *"Old Testament Tales Were Stolen From Other Cultures - Griffin"* *"Parallelism between “The Hymn to Aten” and Psalm 104 - Project Augustine"* *"Studying the Bible"* - by Dr Steven DiMattei (This particular article from a critical Biblical scholar highlights how the authors of the Hebrew Bible used their *fictional* god as a mouthpiece for their own views and ideologies) *"How do we know that the biblical writers were* ***not*** *writing history?"* -- by Dr Steven DiMattei *"Contradictions in the Bible | Identified verse by verse and explained using the most up-to-date scholarly information about the Bible, its texts, and the men who wrote them"* -- by Dr. Steven DiMattei
@Big_DT
@Big_DT 6 месяцев назад
Yeah, if they just read the much older Epic of Gilgamesh they'll see the same stories.
@Shytot-1
@Shytot-1 8 месяцев назад
I always thought that lying for Jesus was still considered lying. Christopher Hitchens didn't get owned so why does the headline say he did? The guy who wrote that is most definitely not going to spend eternity with his god, unless of course the Christian god wants liars sitting next to him, who knows? perhaps he does.
@annep.1905
@annep.1905 7 месяцев назад
He got owned. His "Gotcha" questions were obliterated!
@Shytot-1
@Shytot-1 7 месяцев назад
@@annep.1905 I will give it to William Lane Craig because it must be hard to talk for so long about something that doesn't exist, how he does it is he talks as if the thing he's talking about really does exist, thinking about it I suppose that's how all believers do it, they convince themselves that the nonexistent, exists, their imaginary friend is actually real and not imaginary at all.
@annep.1905
@annep.1905 7 месяцев назад
@@Shytot-1 Man, not only does God exist, but he has revealed his existence in many ways, and to those of us who follow him, we are sometimes granted a miracle, a modern day proof of his existence. It doesn't happen as often as we would like, but it does happen. If you live long enough, you may see one that even you will not be able to deny. But it may cause you to turn to a false god because you hate the true one.
@Shytot-1
@Shytot-1 7 месяцев назад
@@annep.1905 Please think about this, how damaged must your brain be for you to think that a figment of your imagination is contacting you? BTW, how can I hate something I do not believe exists? please tell me how.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 7 месяцев назад
Irony is churches asking for money to solve their problems but telling you to pray to solve yours
@markfultonorg
@markfultonorg 6 месяцев назад
beautiful comment
@toaster317
@toaster317 2 месяца назад
The Catholic Church is the single largest non-government provider of education and health care in the world, churches help solve plenty of problems by giving their money away.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 2 месяца назад
@toaster317 more like indoctrination. LMAO I would not let them even close to children. Why did catholic priests abuse young boys and church was covering it upm
@vpcproduction7070
@vpcproduction7070 6 месяцев назад
craig says biblical slavery was just paying back a debt . what a load of shit
@blusheep2
@blusheep2 6 месяцев назад
Much of biblical "slavery" was just that. They were called "bondservants." They weren't the only type of slaves but they accounted for a large portion of them.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 6 месяцев назад
@@blusheep2 Would you be my that slave? LMAO
@loganh2k507
@loganh2k507 2 месяца назад
You owe it to yourself to educate yourself. God bless.
@francismcglynn4169
@francismcglynn4169 5 месяцев назад
“But the fruit of the Spirit is Love, Joy, Peace, Patience, Kindness, Goodness, Faithfullness, Gentleness, Self-control; against such things there is no Law.” (Galatians 5:22-23) it is something Christians recognize as a sign of the Holy Spirit being able to inspire Self-control, Gentleness and Faithfullness in us so that we may become images of the Patience, Kindness and Goodness of Jesus Christ and so enter finally into the Love Joy and Peace of God in eternity.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 5 месяцев назад
Dr. Price is correct. The existence of Christ is a myth. You should listen to Bible scholars Dr. Richard C. Miller PhD, Dr. Kipp Davis Ph.D., and Dr. Dennis R. MacDonald. on their discoveries about Christianity while studying other religions. Rabbi Tovia Singer Exposes New Testament Lies about how Christians lie in the New Testament about Christ. It seems more and more that Christianity is fake and Christians are just a bunch of thieves.
@rickwyant
@rickwyant 7 месяцев назад
There is no evidence for a god, especially the god of the Jews or Christians.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 7 месяцев назад
or Muslims.
@onlyme972
@onlyme972 6 месяцев назад
Or of any of the hundreds of gods that never existed.
@riaandoyle8196
@riaandoyle8196 6 месяцев назад
Either you've made up youre mind about or against God , or you're truly seeking for the Truth ..... If it's the latter then be of good cheer , because Jesus wil reveal Himself to you! Knock and it shall be opened, seek and you shall find, ask and it shall be given unto you ! God bless you
@riaandoyle8196
@riaandoyle8196 6 месяцев назад
I pray God open all 3 off you're eyes and ears and prepare you're hearts to receive ! The God of The Bible and His Son,the Lord Jesus Christ,the One who came down to earth and died on the Cross of Calvary, 2000 years ago and took all of all 3 of youres sins on Him and was raised from the dead on the 3rd day, and is alive . He took all you're sins on Him on the Cross because God Loves you and that you may be with Him forever in heaven
@68hellhammer
@68hellhammer 7 месяцев назад
I don’t think either was “owned”. Christian viewers may be inclined to believe that Craig had the better part of the argument, and non-Christians/atheists that it was Hitchens. A lively, informed, and respectful exchange.
@martinwhitney9343
@martinwhitney9343 6 месяцев назад
but hitchens is right. there is no god of any form that can be proven in any way to exsist. The idea that anyone can come back from the dead is ridiculous . let alone all the other dumb suggested miracles, endless genocides, non exsitant exsodus and many other disproved stupidities in the old and new testement.
@calvinismistrue
@calvinismistrue 6 месяцев назад
The resurrection of the saints at the crucifixion was not just a local event. Peruvians, Chinese and European historical records claim darkness, earthquakes and ghosts at the time of Jesus death. The Irish story of Concobar MacNessa is one such story. Craig not being a Calvinist and subscribing to Molenism tends to open him up to wanting to analogize certain portions of scripture.
@msmd3295
@msmd3295 5 месяцев назад
Yeh... Hitchens gets "owned" by Craig. If you believe that I have a used car I'm looking to sell. Hitchens asks poignant questions about religion and what does Craig do? He obfuscates, dodges, pleads ignorance, presents rationales and even worse, he admits there may be things he has conceived "wrong". But, let's forget that and grant that his beliefs are True. IF... Craig really wanted to "do his best" at understanding the universe he's doomed to never know if his supernatural beliefs are true because he has no empirical evidence to present that supports his views. And then Craig, like most theists will speak and act as if such beliefs are true. Craig et. al. defeat themselves by making truth claims for which they have no FACTS. It's analogous to the Little Boy Who [Always] Cried Wolf... when no wolf was anywhere near. People stopped believing and what happened? The boy [god belief] eventually get's eaten by the big bad wolf - Science. 🤣 If homo sapiens expect themselves to survive longer than the Dodo Bird [we're already one of the shortest existing species on the planet], the species must find its "proper" place in the natural universe. And that includes not ruining the planet with our garbage and then expecting some guy named Jesus to come rescue a certain "chosen few". If religion isn't equivalent to tossing die or playing Black Jack, it's difficult to imagine anything else to compare.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 5 месяцев назад
We call him a low-bar Bill for a reason. LMAO.
@Easternromanfan
@Easternromanfan 4 месяца назад
​@@LGpi314Funny considering how your idols respect him
@Easternromanfan
@Easternromanfan 4 месяца назад
You're just yapping here
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 4 месяца назад
@@Easternromanfan what idols? What are you babbling about?
@msmd3295
@msmd3295 4 месяца назад
That’s just your opinion. But your response does demonstrate you have no intelligent response. So I’ll take your comment as containing nothing of real relevance. But thanks for verifying there’s one more empty head I wasn’t previously aware of. 🤣
@mmpod70
@mmpod70 7 месяцев назад
Christofer Hitchens is a light in the darkness, gone too soon RIP.
@Moonstone1262
@Moonstone1262 7 месяцев назад
well he's surely in the darkness now...
@mmpod70
@mmpod70 7 месяцев назад
Yes but he left a light for all intelligent beings to follow@@Moonstone1262
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 7 месяцев назад
@@Moonstone1262 No, He is dead so will you some day. He gave his body to science.
@ramigilneas9274
@ramigilneas9274 7 месяцев назад
@@Moonstone1262 Of course he is… like all dead people.😂
@christophertaylor9100
@christophertaylor9100 7 месяцев назад
Not so much
@torreyintahoe
@torreyintahoe 6 месяцев назад
Hitchens didn't get owned. He just made a bunch of arguments that made your religion look silly and you didn't like it.
@YourStylesGeneric321
@YourStylesGeneric321 6 месяцев назад
You know its really ok to look silly before men, but when you are before God on the day of Judgement it won't be so silly.
@torreyintahoe
@torreyintahoe 6 месяцев назад
@@YourStylesGeneric321 That’s fiction.
@YourStylesGeneric321
@YourStylesGeneric321 6 месяцев назад
@@torreyintahoe Many things are fiction, until one day we discover the truth. Death is coming though you might believe you have tomorrow, to some we may think we have plenty of time, but this is the true fiction. Place your bet, on what you think you know, or the God who can not lie, who died so you may live.
@torreyintahoe
@torreyintahoe 6 месяцев назад
@@YourStylesGeneric321 I'm very acquainted with death. I'm a firefighter/paramedic. I see it every day. Doesn't mean I'm going to subscribe to bullshit story.
@YourStylesGeneric321
@YourStylesGeneric321 6 месяцев назад
@@torreyintahoe That is awesome thanks for your service, but nobody is forcing you to subscribe to anything.
@mick947
@mick947 7 месяцев назад
Why is the title Hitchens gets owned? And why would a Christian site be so kick ass?
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 7 месяцев назад
Typical thiest's thing on YT. Even after Hitchen's death, he is still triggering snowflakes theists. LMAO
@rduse4125
@rduse4125 7 месяцев назад
It wasn’t blasphemous to claim to be the messiah, it was blasphemous to claim to be God.
@tipsy09
@tipsy09 7 месяцев назад
true but it kinda is blasphemy in the sense that only Jesus is the messiah and therefore being the messiah and God is interchangeable so anyone claiming to be the messiah is in effect calling themselves God. is there anyone who will enter the kingdom who once upon a time called themselves the messiah but wasnt?
@rduse4125
@rduse4125 7 месяцев назад
@@tipsy09 - The Jews in Jesus’ day was looking for the messiah…they were not looking for him to be God. So, I’d still say no.
@gummiesrule88
@gummiesrule88 7 месяцев назад
There is no "owning" of Hitchens here, as desperately as some apparently would like to see or hear it...
@Ale90fcb
@Ale90fcb 7 месяцев назад
It seems both were having fun. I'm a Christian and I miss Hitchens.
@randomworkings3600
@randomworkings3600 7 месяцев назад
I understand this. I used to hate Hitchens without reason because I knew he was an atheist. After watching him, however, I’ve come to love his personality at times. I think his arguments are all flawed and have been debunked since the time of the church fathers, but I admire his ability to maintain a sense of humor in all of his interactions.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 7 месяцев назад
@@randomworkings3600 "I think his arguments are all flawed and have been debunked since the time of the church fathers" How is it debunked? Please show the evidence.
@randomworkings3600
@randomworkings3600 7 месяцев назад
@@LGpi314 Particularly in this video, Hitchens saying that Christianity isn’t true because most people in history and today aren’t Christian and religion causes evil is an appeal to popularity and appeal to emotion. Debunked is the wrong word for me to use and I apologize for that. His arguments are very often chock full of logical fallacies that Aristotle could have pointed out. The existence of logical fallacies in an argument doesn’t necessarily make your position untrue, but in Hitchens’ case I will say that he cannot provide justification for his atheist beliefs through any of the routes of argumentation that he takes. William Lane Craig at times presents flawed arguments as well and I would not consider him a great Christian logician (for starters, he is often not arguing explicitly for the Christian God but for any generic God or Deity), but you can see how he is able to very easily point out the flaws in Hitchens’ arguments. Hitchens was a smart man and I enjoy watching him, but it is clear that his highest level of study in philosophy is a bachelor’s.
@atalaya2136
@atalaya2136 5 месяцев назад
The resurrection is based on the gathering of harvest. When Jesus descended and took saints to heaven, he left some to return to earth. Same for the wheat harvest discussed in Leviticus.
@robertblakeman9978
@robertblakeman9978 2 месяца назад
Gets owned my ARSE!!
@zkring
@zkring 6 месяцев назад
Talk about clickbait. There wasn't even any ownage! If anything Hitchen got him with the last point regarding eye witnesses not supporting Jesus' accounts of exorcisms.
@danielcraft1971
@danielcraft1971 8 месяцев назад
Not many people know who William lane Craig is. The reason for this is that he is self-proclaimed and self-promoted. He is a glory hound who uses others to get himself noticed. At the opposite end of the spectrum is Christopher Hitchens, who is widely regarded as one of the most influential atheists of modern times. There is nothing in this video that has Hitchens "destroyed", that is simply the RU-vidr here trying to get views with very little effort (except a bit of editing here and there to misdirect) by using ALL CAPS. If noting else, this has helped me to identify another channel to avoid and set to not recommended. I suggest anyone else who mistakenly clicked on this to do the same.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 8 месяцев назад
Yes, typical theists bull crap with catchy title.
@Philosophyrules77
@Philosophyrules77 3 месяца назад
Ugh... do you know what "owned" means? Because no one got "owned" here.
@jsmall10671
@jsmall10671 5 месяцев назад
Clickbait garbage headline. You're acknowledging that parts of the bible, even in the Gospels can be interpreted metaphorically, like the appearance of dead patriarchs, so you're acknowledging that almost any of it could be metaphor.
@googlrc
@googlrc 7 месяцев назад
When Hitchens said “that was a clumsily asked question” he was lying… he was setting up a trap and Lane Craig didn’t fall for the trap. Hitchens was being a little trickster 🐍
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 7 месяцев назад
"he was setting up a trap and Lane Craig didn’t fall for the trap" What trap? WLC is full of bullcrap and fallacies.
@googlrc
@googlrc 7 месяцев назад
@@LGpi314 response?
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 7 месяцев назад
@@googlrc " What trap?" LMAO
@daveboo7002
@daveboo7002 6 месяцев назад
Hitch's unbeaten streak has no end!
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 6 месяцев назад
Even after his death he is still winning. LMAO
@roflmylmao
@roflmylmao 6 месяцев назад
He was beaten by Frank Turek. He refused to answer most of Frank's questions directly. He would pivot, distract, and avoid answering at all costs.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 6 месяцев назад
@roflmylmao beaten but fake Dr? LMAO. You are hilarious. Turek is full of bullcrap and fallacies. He can't even convince students in colleges. Stop BSing.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 6 месяцев назад
@roflmylmao It is sad that people in 21st century are relying on goat herders' understanding of the world. It is insane.
@hitman5782
@hitman5782 6 месяцев назад
@@roflmylmao Beaten by Turek? LOL! Can you name a single valid point Turek has EVER made?
@rosewhite---
@rosewhite--- 7 месяцев назад
Hitchens agrees there are demons and the magic priests of Egypt coudl replicate the snakes etc of Moses -
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 7 месяцев назад
LMAO Sarcasticaly. LMAO
@bigol9223
@bigol9223 7 месяцев назад
Hitchens says "The people who got the closest look at Him, the Jewish Sanhedrin thought that His claims were not genuine. Remember. if you're resting anything on eyewitnesses, the ones who we DEFINITELY know were there thought He was bogus." This argument seems to lean back on the classic claim that the gospels (since the copies we have are from later dates) are of uncertain authorship, and probably not written by the eyewitness apostles. Yet he is relying on those books' testimony to claim that we "definitely know" the Sanhedrin were there arguing with Jesus.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 7 месяцев назад
Dr. Price is correct. The existence of Christ is a myth. You should listen to Bible scholars Dr. Richard C. Miller PhD, Dr. Kipp Davis Ph.D., and Dr. Dennis R. MacDonald. on their discoveries about Christianity while studying other religions. Rabbi Tovia Singer Exposes New Testament Lies about how Christians lie in the New Testament about Christ. It seems more and more that Christianity is fake and Christians are just a bunch of thieves.
@markfullbrighton5070
@markfullbrighton5070 8 месяцев назад
No disrespect, but this is quite embarrassing on behalf of Craig and Christians. It's funny to me that Craig was so willing to debate people like Hitchens, Harris, and Dawkins considering that none of them are, or were, professional philosophers. Secondly, it's quite embarrassing that Craig was so willing to debate these people and yet he has been ducking a debate with Jeffery Jay Lowder since the late 1990s. Jeffery Jay Lowder already intellectually destroyed Phil Fernandes, Frank Turek, and Kevin Vandergriff in a debate. He is by far the best atheist debater there is. I guess that's why Craig has been ducking a debate with him since the late 1990s.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 8 месяцев назад
"none of them are, or were, professional philosophers. " LMAO. You are too funny. "Sam received a degree in philosophy from Stanford University and a Ph.D. in neuroscience from UCLA" WLC is full of bull crap and fallacies. This is why he refuses to debate anyone and only goes to theists-friendly channels.
@stevendwyer3652
@stevendwyer3652 6 месяцев назад
@markfullbrighton5070 I haven't seen anything of Jeffrey Jay Lowder, I'll go check him out. Thanks 👍🏻
@DaveZee823
@DaveZee823 6 месяцев назад
Hitchens NEVER gets owned.
@DomskiOKKK
@DomskiOKKK 6 месяцев назад
He’s dead he’s definitely believes in God now.
@DaveZee823
@DaveZee823 6 месяцев назад
@@DomskiOKKK How can he believe in god if he's dead? Typical nonsense from a religtard!
@DomskiOKKK
@DomskiOKKK 6 месяцев назад
@@DaveZee823😂read what you wrote again. You’ll be just like Hitchens if you don’t clean up your act.
@DaveZee823
@DaveZee823 6 месяцев назад
@DomskiOKKK You, sir, are a 🤡
@DaveZee823
@DaveZee823 5 месяцев назад
@@DomskiOKKK Is that a threat?
@fabriziocamisani5477
@fabriziocamisani5477 Месяц назад
Where exactly was he owned?
@scottlozon4255
@scottlozon4255 5 месяцев назад
I guess owned has a different meaning to the delusional
@som1980
@som1980 7 месяцев назад
Hitchens made very good and well informed arguments. He didn’t even come close to being “owned” at any point. That was just clickbait and it worked because here I am 😅
@TheMockedy
@TheMockedy 7 месяцев назад
He didn't get owned, I agree. However, he didn't make any good argument. Rather he asked questions to better understand Craig's point of view.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 7 месяцев назад
This channel is a typical theist's lies. I thought lies were sins but I guess it is not. LMAO
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 7 месяцев назад
@@TheMockedy " he didn't make any good argument. " It is not Hitchens's fault that theists can't comprehend things. Low-bar Bill is full of fallacies.
@knightspygaming1287
@knightspygaming1287 7 месяцев назад
You can be funny in a debate doesn't mean he owned him. Typical theists take. 😂
@angusg3605
@angusg3605 7 месяцев назад
Jesus is Lord :)
@knightspygaming1287
@knightspygaming1287 7 месяцев назад
@@angusg3605 spiderman is real as well
@justinwimer707
@justinwimer707 7 месяцев назад
@@angusg3605 and your a sheep
@johnmcleod8961
@johnmcleod8961 7 месяцев назад
owned?...really, owned?...of course, the religious mind has a strong proclivity for exaggeration...all I heard was CH asking questions and WLC answering indecisiveness, but honestly I might add.
@boxingfan8274
@boxingfan8274 5 месяцев назад
Hitchens never liked being asked who is the Master Source? he always changed subject, as he did not have a plausible alternative explanation than God being the Master Source. he liked staying the sub-source territory in debates.
@donthesitatebegin9283
@donthesitatebegin9283 5 месяцев назад
That simply isn't true. Hitchens objection was to the human-centric Supernatural Gods of religion. When asked about the "Master Source" Hitchens said: "There may very well be an Impersonal Deistic Creator, a Designer or a First Cause - who can say it is not so - but you have all your work ahead of you to show it is the God of the Bible".
@strannick2212
@strannick2212 7 месяцев назад
Craig is so polite and deferent. Hitchens is looking for gotcha moments with quips
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 7 месяцев назад
It is not Hitchens's fault that theists can't comprehend things.
@strannick2212
@strannick2212 7 месяцев назад
@@LGpi314 if Craig is anything, it's comprehensive
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 7 месяцев назад
@@strannick2212 "comprehensive" In fallacies. LMAO. Tell me what exactly does WLC prove?
@strannick2212
@strannick2212 7 месяцев назад
@@LGpi314 rewatch if you like
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 7 месяцев назад
@@strannick2212 I have and still WLC is full of bullcrap and fallacies.
@LesNessman2001
@LesNessman2001 9 месяцев назад
Exorcisms was finally removed as a belief in Christianity. Same thing with witches and worloks and pixies and fairies, etc. Jesus didn’t perform exorcisms.
@nagaseminarian
@nagaseminarian 9 месяцев назад
read the Bible!
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 8 месяцев назад
@@nagaseminarian Why do we need to read a poorly written fictional book? I just don't get it. Do you think Adam was created from dirt and Eve from his rib? They then repopulated the earth. Isn't that magic? Did Adam reprocreate with his daughters? Is that what the bible is referencing? Do you believe earth is only 6000 years old? Do you believe it is flat as well? Do snakes talk?
@heythere6983
@heythere6983 8 месяцев назад
What are you talking about? Exorcisms are at their highest demand today than ever
@michaelsiler7732
@michaelsiler7732 6 месяцев назад
During this section of the debate, William Lane Craig committed himself to Jesus performing exorcisms, but wouldn't commit himself to the existence of demons. Hello, McFly! How can Jesus perform exorcisms if demons aren't real.
@davidcardano963
@davidcardano963 5 месяцев назад
Hitchens went to easy especially in the first section where he didn't press on all of the Gods, religions and most of the sects within his own religion that Craig has to deny. Every other sect and religion does the same thing. Hence the culture wars we have always had.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 8 месяцев назад
Why do theists lie so much?
@wisdomarchives12
@wisdomarchives12 8 месяцев назад
In what?
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 8 месяцев назад
@@wisdomarchives12 In the title. If it is too hard to figure out.
@jorgevalenzuela2496
@jorgevalenzuela2496 8 месяцев назад
Might be their opinion. You have Never seen an atheist video saying someone got owned and you felt differently?
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 8 месяцев назад
@@jorgevalenzuela2496 Can you give an example?
@keenanmiller6231
@keenanmiller6231 8 месяцев назад
It’s not theists in general . It’s specific kinds of Christians. The ones that worship the Bible and yet reject righteousness and think salvation comes by intellectual assent to certain propositional sentences They have a religion where they can lie and cheat and it’s okay because “ Jesus paid for it at the cross “ …
@nate78824
@nate78824 7 месяцев назад
Hitchens and Craig: 2 brilliant minds.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 7 месяцев назад
@@beatonm198 That is why we call WLC a low-bar Bill. LMAO
@geolitz2665
@geolitz2665 5 месяцев назад
Why are there so many bugs flying around the commentators?
@Juusokakku
@Juusokakku 6 месяцев назад
5:00 Hitchens is revealing an uncomfortable possibility here: Even if Jesus had power over demons, that itself says nothing of the source. Maybe he was a really really high ranking demon, pretending to be God incarnate?
@donthesitatebegin9283
@donthesitatebegin9283 6 месяцев назад
Magical-thinking sucks! Are you nine!?
@Juusokakku
@Juusokakku 6 месяцев назад
@@donthesitatebegin9283Come on, lighten up a little! What do you think, wouldn't it be ironic if Jesus was actually just a demon in disguise?
@donthesitatebegin9283
@donthesitatebegin9283 6 месяцев назад
@@Juusokakku There are so many highly-disturbed people who want to believe in demons that it's not a fit subject for jokes.
@jackforseti224
@jackforseti224 3 месяца назад
No one owned Christopher hitchens
@newnoggin2
@newnoggin2 6 месяцев назад
Don't watch! This is just an excerpt of a long debate that Hitchens clearly wins
@low-internetgaming
@low-internetgaming 3 месяца назад
Craig is a far superior thinker. Hitchens was a charismatic personality. Whether one thinks Craig or Hitchens “won” the debate will largely be determined by which of those traits one prefers.
@newnoggin2
@newnoggin2 3 месяца назад
@@low-internetgaming Hilarious.
@low-internetgaming
@low-internetgaming 3 месяца назад
@@newnoggin2 perhaps. And yet, also true.
@davebritton7648
@davebritton7648 8 месяцев назад
I saw this years ago. I thought 'Wahabi Baby' would be a good title and subject for a song. No one got owned here, certainly not Hitchens. And I can't take seriously a man who pronounces 'illustrative' like that.
@PInk77W1
@PInk77W1 8 месяцев назад
Your opinion being different from someone else’s doesn’t make them a liar
@paulgemme6056
@paulgemme6056 5 месяцев назад
No born-again believer can ever say I used to be a believer. Once born of the Spirit (Holy Spirit), always born of the Spirit. Just as once born of your parents always a child of your parents.
@jacobsummers9026
@jacobsummers9026 6 месяцев назад
Good commentary but I would prefer Less of it. It seems to go into commentary just when I’m getting into the debate.
@nagaseminarian
@nagaseminarian 6 месяцев назад
appreciate the feedback!
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 5 месяцев назад
Then you should watch the whole debate and see how Hitchens wiped the floor with WLC fallacies. This channel is dishonest.
@leecooper3852
@leecooper3852 7 месяцев назад
The account of Matthew 27 is not referring to the resurrection of people who were dead, the earthquake split the tombs and opened them up, as well as tearing the temple curtain and the storm and the rain washed some of the bodies into the city, There were bones and materials. It's not referring to a resurrection... If it had have been it would have mentioned the word resurrection.
@DanFedMusic
@DanFedMusic 7 месяцев назад
You're right, and most of the time I hear it the wrong way as expressed in this video.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 7 месяцев назад
If jesus was a god then resurrection was a farce and theists still believe in magic.
@aaronfunnell5220
@aaronfunnell5220 6 месяцев назад
It wouldn't of necessary mentioned the word resurrection. The bible is intentionally cryptic and open to interpretation. James Kugel (Jewish scholar) highlights this point well in his book "how to read the bible. Just look at the so called prophesies to see how crypic, vague and open to interpretation they are. Seeing as the virgin prophesy is constantly confused due to the word usage of alma (used in isiah) vs betula (a more appropriate word for virgin) it's clear that clarity isn't the bibles strong point. I could just easily throw your own point at you otherwise and say if a virgin birth was meant, it would have said it. I can guarantee much of your faith is based not on the actual words written but how you've interpreted it.
@leecooper3852
@leecooper3852 6 месяцев назад
​@@aaronfunnell5220 If a resurrection was occurring the people would have been mentioned as to who was resurrected and what they did after it.. The fact that didn't happen because it wasn't a resurrection.. You shouldn't read into something if it doesn't directly say it.
@aaronfunnell5220
@aaronfunnell5220 6 месяцев назад
@@leecooper3852 At least you've changed arguements. All I was trying to do was show you is it wouldn't have necessarily said resurrection for it to be a resurrection. I never once said it was meant as a resurrection or even believed it to mean a resurrection did I? The fact it doesn't explicitly say what you said about bones washing down via a storm and you've have to interpret this only proves my origional point. To use your own words "you shouldn't read into something if it doesn't directly say it". It also doesn't directly say your interpretation either hence the cryptic nature of the bible. Does Matthew even mention a storm or have you needed to interpret his words with other sources? The word storm, rain or some other direct word needs to be used based on your own definition otherwise you are interpreting and we know how you feel about that? How many people rose from the dead in the bible and how many first hand accounts of people talking about these are there? It seems it was so common why would people need to talk about it.
@janjic
@janjic 6 месяцев назад
I'm a Christian, and while I (obviously) prefer WLC, I wouldn't say anybody got "owned" here. Those were both good questions and good answers.
@saintrose3076
@saintrose3076 2 месяца назад
Commentary makes this video unwatchable!
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