This gave me a chuckle. Really though, why is it Google and Microsoft lack basic polish even during the setup procedure where as Apple always seems to get this part right. I doubt Apple devs are any more talented than those at Google or Microsoft, or that they’re financially better off (all three have unlimited cash for such things) so what gives? Does Apple just bake things in the oven for longer, have a procedure for triple micro checking all the details, or what? This has consistently been the case for 25+ years in my experience.
@@BilisNegra no one actually cares about windows 11's requirements. literally only loonux nerds are frothing at the mouth about windows 11's requirements for TPM and newer CPU because they think this time, for real, 100%, that it'll finally be the year of the linux desktop, you know, the same tune they chant every time a new version of windows comes out and yet, guess what, no average computer user switches to loonux because it's garbage and doesn't have the programs people actually want to use (no, no one wants to use GIMP or LibreOffice, stop pretending those embarassingly bad programs are good). the average computer user is just going to ignore windows 11 and keep using windows 10 until 2025 when its support ends, or maybe even beyond, just like all the people out there that are still using even windows 7 to this day.
Permission to brag. I enjoyed the fact that Chromium showed up in the wild on November 19, 2009. I finished my last day of work on Friday November 20, 2009 after 33 years of working in the Plain Old Telephone Service, AKA . . . "POTS." I bought a Dell tower a couple of months later that had 2 gig of ram and an 80 GB HDD loaded with Windows 7 and thought that I had the best computer in the neighborhood. Thanks for the memories. : )
@14:25 "Microsoft Windows wants to update itself. We have to be running a real version of Windows if it wants to update itself." Hahaha Sly dry wit alright.
Wow, that was impressive. That's the very first time I see ChromiumOS/ChromeOS running and I have to say it was not bad at all. The system is responsive and smooth, performance is great and visual appearance is not bad unlike in the most of Linux distributions. And another greatest thing: no messing with console at all.
I so enjoy these demonstrations. I've always wanted to try out these operating systems and fiddle around with the raspberry hardware in my spare time. which I do from time to time but I find I need to focus on other things. that's why I appreciate these videos so much it's the adventure without all the trials and tribulations. thank you for your work!
It seems pretty responsive and I’m always amazed at any type of Windows running on a Pi. This is another OS I am interested in trying on my Raspberries. Looking forward to your next video!
@@ExplainingComputers I find it difficult making 4-6 RU-vid videos a year. Your making a quality video a week has my admiration and respect! If I were limited to following only one channel, it would be yours! Keep up the good work!!! 👍
As much as I dislike Chrome OS and would personally never use it - seeing a variant of Chrome OS (being Chromium OS in this case) being open-source and easy to implement and install is actually really cool. Imagine the things the IT industry could accomplish if more effort was put towards making things free and open-source.
i very much wish google would adopt the pi hardware for official chromeOS images. it would be a huge boon to the raspberry pi foundation as it would enable them to offer a much better desktop experience with full hardware acceleration, android app and linux app support. fyde is a great proof of concept, but it comes with all the limitations of a third party solution.
I beg to differ. Google's privacy behaviour means that if they released a distro for RPI or any other flavour of SBC .. the last line of defence has been crossed in terms of getting their fingers into the data of makers, tinkerers, kids building their first RPI based computer etc.etc.etc..
@@paulluce2557 …are you aware that, with the full blessings of the Raspberry Pi Foundation, Microsoft PPA sources have been inserted into the Official Raspberry Pi OS??? Yes, Windows 10/11 software apps, with all of its “MS Phone Home” capability…. I lost ALL respect for the RPi Foundation…. Sad..
Hey, we DO technically have Windows on Raspberry, free for everyone and supposedly actually runs ok! REALLY weird, complicated setup process (I don't get it yet) but that was their "catch": you build the OS yourself. If we can get Windows to start caving, Google can't be far behind. After those 2, I'd be surprised if Apple doesn't somehow wanna jump into the SBC market.
Having ChromeOS (well, ChromiumOS) available for Pis is fantastic - a lot of people who can't afford a new computer could now very much do so with a Pi and a pre-setup ChromiumOS card without having to learn Linux!
My entire high school education (Swedish version of high school) was done on an Acer Chromebook R11. So I’m quite familiar with the OS. Though the battery wore out quite quickly. Always a fuss in classes with people forgetting their chargers.
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Rpi is running a web browser, that is all that's going on. All "emulations" happen in your mind in regars to words like "os", "pc" and so on, that previously been used by your mind to relate to physically existing objects but now are in the realm of logical units. That is like my elderly mother keep asking "where are the files that are on google drive?" - everywhere and nowhere, eh? ;)
Chris tnx for the video. Please notice that for a possible FydeOS video: the system gained a lot of attention after ETA prime video running android games with great performance (even GTA San Andreas mobile). I'm not sure if it runs linux apps as well, but anyway. The privacy of chromiumOS is interesting as its open source as you mentioned, FydeOS being closed source is suspicious being chinese or not (or "sus" as the 'among us' game popularized the term). Since chrome OS is a little based on gentoo, there is also value looking the unmaintained sasaki image of gentoo for the Rpi4. Hugs from brazil !!
I spent almost a while week or two testing different number of FydeOS versions for the Pi. NONE of them ran Linux apps after installing from the terminal. The GUI simply refuses to start
I sometimes check are there any updates for the same version of chromium os, but unfortunately the latest update is from december 2020, so the project doesn't look alive. They probably have some hardware/driver issues with pi, and that's bad, because it could be a fantastic OS.
G'day Chris, love your videos, mate. I haven't watched all your videos but wondering if you have any about projects using old laptops? If not, it would be good if you could.
I've a retro video on an old laptop coming up fairly soon. Earlier this year I did a video on using Linux to bring new life to an old laptop: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-aJcWcQ8ew6Q.html And I've done various videos in the past upgrading laptops with an SSD and more RAM.
Once you've got Linux installed following Chris' other video, how about installing DOSbox and playing some classic DOS games? Explaining Computers has you covered once again: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-uMe4O5WhtJQ.html
@@ExplainingComputers Thanks Chris. Installing Linux on an old laptop is as far as I've gotten so far. Speaking of which, I tried installing Mint on another laptop but can't seem to get WiFi(or ethernet)working now. Any ideas?
@@craigf9031 I have been lucky, every laptop bar one that I've installed Linux (particularly Linux Mint) on, wifi has 'just worked', and ethernet has never failed. You may be able to install a wifi driver using the install USB flash drive, so first try going into the Driver Manager in the Control Centre. An alternative would be to buy a cheap USB wifi dongle compatible with Linux.
@@craigf9031 My experience is that Mint (typically I use its XFCE version) usually works on old laptops but not always on the newest integrated netbook chipsets. As I also like MX linux, my first resort would be to try MX if Mint did not work. For really old laptops, antiX and Puppy are also linux versions that I would try. All of these can be tried from a bootable USB stick or DVD ROM and then installed permanently once I find one that works the wifi (etc.) nicely. For a while my cheap and nasty Geobook would not run linux at all, but I was recently able to install the latest version of Mint on it.
I'll confess that when you clicked on the Pi then cut to black screen, the electrical guru in me thought you blew a breaker... Neat port! Might have to try it on my Pi once I get one.
The 'boss' doesn't need a full-fledged PC for online shopping, browsing and mail so I got her an Asus Chromebook Flip CM5. It's basically all she needs. There are plenty of PWA's (Progressive Web Apps) you can install, which you didn't have time to mention. :-) I also own a Lenovo Chromebook Duet, which is miles better than any Android tablet, which I throw in my backpack when I go out. I'm more and more tempted to but a Raspberry Pi now!
Well, this is great timing for me Chris, I just got a Pi400 last week, and was wondering what other things I could do with it. I’m off to join the very small font society. 😃
That was exactly the thing that I noticed most in this video! I'm tempted to set up a Pi 4 or 400 for my kids to use as a light desktop PC, but because of the Pi's awful performance in the playing-streaming-video department I'm leaning towards a second hand laptop running Zorin OS or something. However, I'm going to test Chromium OS on my Pi 4 4Gb and see if YT/Netflix is actually usable, and if the other things my kids need can be done under Chromium OS, I may just switch my plans back to a Pi. Thanks for this tip! Having said all that, is it known why streaming video in a browser is such a problem in nearly all (or all?) "normal" Pi OS's? Is it a driver problem, a browser problem, underlying OS simply too heavy, something else? Clearly the problem can't be hardware, as Chromium OS does well, and also playing an HD stream in VLC player in Raspberry Pi OS generally works well.
I believe it's all about the availability of support for the GPU that's included in the Broadcom SoC used in the Pi. For some reason Broadcom keeps much of it a secret, which seems to be a foolish strategy if they really want people to buy their chips. 32-bit Raspberry Pi OS accesses the GPU via a closed source "binary blob" of code supplied by Broadcom. The lack of a similar 64-bit driver is what's holding back 64-bit Raspberry Pi OS.
@@johnm2012 If that's the case, then how could FydeOS implement the playback in such smooth way? They must have access to something Raspberry Pi OSes don't
Linus Torvalds would be quite happy today seeing Mr. Christopher installing and using chromium OS on a Pi. 👍 BTW, small fonts society quip was a nice addition. ;) PS : My phone died yesterday afternoon, hence I was unable to join our favorite channel.
The general performance seemed to be very smooth. Chris, in general web browsing on busier websites, do you think it was better/worse/similar than most Linux based OSs?
Explaining Computers on a Sunday perfect, another interesting & entertaining video. If you logged on as a guest would it be secure enough to use for internet banking & other financial transactions? 'Oh' and there's nothing wrong with being a penguin :)
Not something that would be much use to me, but my dad and several other people I know would certainly find this very useful. Much cheaper than a new PC, so I think when the time comes my old dad needs a new computer, I may make this the recommendation as it will do everything he needs in a way that would be familiar to him and save him in excess of £100. Excellent stuff.
I remember proto-typing (what are now called) desktop widgets & SaS apps when Microsoft introduced Active Desktop (with the introduction of IE4), when I realised that both the Scripting Host (Engine) & VBA (Visual Basic for Applications) were running the same core interpreter. The only problem I had at that time was when showing/demoing to other people, the first thing they would try to do was drag the icons in and out of the browser windows (which wasn't supported until Macromedia defined DHTML about a year later) - nowadays everything is web centric, even when not web rendered - shame that RPiOS never learned the PipaOS 3 second boot technique (although they got it down to 5 seconds, that hasn't been the case for a couple of years now, again ..) ho hum
I'm thinking that this could make quite a nice kiosk computer for our workshop employees. Useful to enable people to check their holidays and help them to process some personal admin if they don't have access to a computer at home.
At 3:32 you turn on the power and it gets dark. Seems a fuse in the house has blown. I got a really suspicious look. :-) Anyway, it's a really informative video as always.
ANOTHER OS REVIEW FOR THE PI???!?!??? PLEASE! Still trying to work out Twister, so much fun to be had. Also trying to figure out that complicated Windows on Raspberry sequence of building the OS.
It’s genuinely impressive how well this performs. Even raspberrypi OS doesn’t play RU-vid videos this well most of the time. We might be one pi generation away from having it be viable desktop replacement for day to day use. I’m guessing it’s not possible to overclock the pi 4 while using chromiumOS?
Very nice OS....!! And very well presented....!! I've seen that "test clip" so many times now, seems to me that it's the first time that it's so efficient with the "stats for nerds".......!!!
Great video. Not for me, but I can see how perhaps seniors can enjoy the use of a low power but high performance computer connected to a big screen and wireless controls.
Great idea and video! I just switched over and it seems to run better than Raspberry OS and my best video is at 720p. I've always intended to use the Pi 4 as a simple browsing and email computer. Now this fits my needs. Thanks again.
Very informative Chris. Thank you for the putting together this demo. The small form factor Raspberry Pi with Chromium OS for my low budget web app use just may be what I need.
Not a fan of Chromium OS, but I'm a fan of you and your channel, so here I am, watching the whole video and leaving a comment for the Al Gore's Rhythm.
Hello Criss! Greetings from Roumania! I hope you are well! My mom use to have Corona, but I hill her myself! Our government lie the people to get vaccinated...But we try to stay strong!
@@ExplainingComputers just checked, yep, my bad. I didn't try fyde yet but can vouch for the work over at brunch, got my thinkpad's secondary drive (16gb m.2 SSD) running the latest chromeOS including some basic android support. it runs really well
Does the Chromium OS also have support for installing Android Apps like ChromeOS? If i'm not mistaken Chromium OS can run Netflix out of the box because of Widevine support unlike other available Raspberry Pi OS.
Another great video, I'll have to try it on my Raspad with the 8 gigabyte 4 model inside,. A proud member of the big font society....😆 Have a great week.
Chris ,have you ever heard of a laptop or pc maker that ,if you ordered on ,they would send you the computer in unasembled form like a Lego kit;You would order the Ram ,HD etc,you would have to assemble the pc or laptop wth clear given assembly instructions .
Very impressive, I wish I had a Pi too, I would be playing with it all day haha. I think I would install an obscure os like NetBSD or something weird. Cool vid as always :3
I used raspberry pi as a daily driver for some months when my main PC stopped working just before lock-down. One main reason why I stopped using raspberry was that chrome could not be installed in it, so I couldn't sync it easily between PCs. Anyway if I can sort that out, I might go back to using raspberry, though not as my main PC.
I have 2 ChromeBook since severals years. One for me and one for my wife. And specifikly for the second, the usage is incredibly easy. The updates are automatic (is it the same on Chromiom OS for PI ?) , the usage very simple, you can record multi accounts for login and, as you notice, a guest account is very safety. And specific tools (VPN for exemple) are avalaible. Chromium on PI could be use on TV and, for example, with a bluetooh keybord and HDMI cable, you can use it on the television at your vacation spot. Thanks for this moment and I notice (6'16) that you have the same favorite website than me !! Good choice !!! Best regards
Good video. Some thoughts on videos down stream. I like your photo videos. as a extension, a series of videos showing how an array of cameras can be used for robotic navigation.
If android apps are useable on this, this will be a game changer for DIY smart projects, having an app based IFTT integration on something like a pi zero opens up all kinds of doors
Thankyou Chris. So is this a browser-dominated OS, or merely one that has that browser-like interface? The fact that you need to have a Google account seems to suggest that it only runs online.
Grateful for the look at ChromiumOS, but I will never use it. I do not feel that cloud computing should ever replace local computing, which is one of the many reasons I will never use a microsoft account. I expect and require that my computing devices will work without the internet and be fully functional.
