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I just picked up the Valeton GP 200 for under $290 (US). For that sort of money, I don't think you can go wrong. In fact, at $350, I still think you can't go wrong... especially if you are on a budget and can't swing the $500 for the POD Go. They both sound great!
Pod go's snapshot feature is really nice but the fact the valeton has dedicated controls for all the amp settings wins it for me, they've both got more features than you'd ever need but I hate going through menus to fine tune the amp plus the price on the valeton is insane for how good it sounds.
Thanks man!!! Im a gp200 user and it is not easy to find quilified review for high gain! This thing is really good one! But doesnt have enough delay rverb thing for ambient style sound. Whatever, pg200 sound is enough for pro-level users!
It's usually hard to find someone who will cover the heavier aspects when it comes to amps, amp sims, even modelers, without having to go to the few channels who do so, but boy did you cover all the bases and showcase exactly what someone who plays heavier music might need, even down to the 5150 Vs VH4 vs Dual Rec. Definitely earned a sub and a like from me \m/
While I mostly agree with your final thoughts I do think the GP200 looks WAY better, though. Has a really solid and sturdy design. The higher foot switches on the upper row are also a nice little touch which helps in live situations. I also think the output features of the GP200 might really be a factor for a lot of players looking for a unit to use in live situations. Balanced outputs are a nice thing after all. :) Great video and amazing playing, as always.
Just got the Valeton. You have to faff about and import your own IR’s ( very easy to do) but once you do, it’s great. Having used these type of things in the past, there’s less option paralysis than in many. The pod go looks like I’d spend a week fiddling, but not actually get much, if any advantage. The dsp running out of legs was a big minus for me. Ymmv
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Thank you for this review, really impressed with the value & build/sound quality of these units. At first I thought only being able to use one of each effects style in the chain would bother me but then I remembered how I used to absolutely drive myself crazy with weird patches of multiple pedals doing stuff in pod farm haha!
Haha love it when you say you prefer more parameters but don't know what they do on the POD. For me less is best otherwise I'd just keep dickin' round instead of creating. I can always eq, add more effects etc. in post recording. That's once I decide what to buy. Thanks, great vid.
Great vid & it kept my attention all the way through (even though I'm a classic rock/blues not metal/chug player). Since this Vid the GP200 has had some upgrades (its now on v1.40) and the Pod Go has had a MAJOR upgrade with v2.0 that incorporates a new cab engine and 33 new IR cabs plus new amp/effect models. I have the Pod Go & I like it for home use or if I have to travel light, but for most gigging I'm still using my 'old tech' Vox Tonelab SE and LE units. Yes there's tons in Pod Go, but on stage I need to keep things simple. The TL's have real knobs, dials and switches, are built like tanks, have a gig worthy heavy duty cabled PSUs with mid cable transformer & on/off switch. And tonally the TL's feel and respond much more like a valve amp due to its clever valve-reactor design that uses a 12AX7 valve as a power valve, even compared to many modern units like Pod Go. The big issue for me is that Pod Go is awkward to use/tweak live because its simply too menu driven and too complicated, and its limitation of up to 4 user blocks is a nuisance. In a typical patch I'd want a reverb, delay, modulation, distortion & compressor. I can do this if I use a modified JSON patch - I have a 5 user block template where I sacrifice the fx loop and a 6 user block template where I also sacrifice the wah. I really don't need two distortions or two reverbs etc, and although snapshots are fine in theory, for gigging I prefer staying in stomp mode and patch changing using an external double momentary footswitch. Now, although the Tonelab options are limited and I can select only one option from the reverb, modulation, delay & pedal sections, I can change the amp or fx model in a second by turning a dial and I have real knobs to tweak the fx or amp if needed. What I like about the Valeton GP200 is that for gigging, it has some really nice features that solve some of the Pod Go's gigging limitation issues for me, including: Built in XLR balanced outs (as well as non-balanced outs) MIDI Groundlift Staggered footswitches - such a simple solution to make switching much easier Dedicated amp controls (this was a feature I really liked in the Zoom G11) but parameter options are more basic than eg Pod Go Dedicated buttons to access each section quickly (modulation, reverb, delay etc) (a feature I really liked in the Mooer GE300) Globally accessible looper Built in drum machine (basic, but still a nice extra to jam to & drums can be looped too) Initial & wait modes for footswitches - brilliant for teeing up something whilst you're playing Cab off setting (global) Patch level meter 180 sec looper Customizable Display Mode (3 modes) Magnify the patch names and numbers (great option for gigging). 1000mA (a sensible power requirement, unlike the Pod Go) All metal construction But for customer support, Line 6 have a really strong set-up & reputation.
I think that they are both good pedals I have the Valeton GP 200 I feel it’s more friendly user compared to the Pod Go but either one you can’t really go wrong! Great video we really enjoyed it and value your honest opinion! Thank you 😎🎸🤘
Both sounded good, I'm more into the sound that they put out. So pricing wise obviously it's the GP200. For 100 more I believe Valeton can do the same job as the Pod Go.
Two years plus since I have gone L6 Helix format with a power amps and cabs. I run a mono wet dry setup for my main set-up. I still love tube amps but this is just so easy and so much to offer in one unit. I have been 100% happy which is crazy.. 😂 Both of these sounds good and might get a 200 for another flavor for home.
Both sound awesome, but Valeton sounded a bit muffled though it has more low end. Dual Rectifier on POD Go sounded too harsh and fizzy, however... I'm a big Mooer fan, I think they're now the "poor's man Helix" (at least here in Brazil where prices are ridiculously high)... It'd be nice a shootout with Mooer and Boss units ! Cheers from Brazil ! 🇧🇷
I guess that memory was a way to explain it, but just being that guy, the DSP usage is more about processing capacity. When your fx take more time to process than the processor is capable of delivering to the D/A buffer in time, you'll have all sorts of clicks and cracking and horrible sounds. So the pedalboard avoids it not allowing you to stack more than it can bite.
TAYLOR - liked and subscribed - Thanks for the time and effort for the comparison ! Both units sound pretty exact - You said the Line 6 can run out of memory - but I probably will never have that problem. I will get the Line 6 Pod Go Wireless - which will help a lot - Thanks !
I might be biased and have had every multifx modelers line 6 has ever made pods/Hx Helix Rack, Pod go wireless, native, but the Pod Go just plain sounds better IMHO 🤔.
To be honest for the price gap i got the valeton. Infact i ordered one 2 days ago. And if you don't look at the video and just listen they sound the same in the shootout. I know someone will say they don't but i call bs. Just kill the monitor and listen and i bet if you did it blind noone would be able to tell you the 2 back and forth.
They both have a dryness that's hard to get past. However, that could be a sound one could go for, especially if that's highly technical. Yes, more chug battles. Request, Headrush vs Line6.
just a tiny IT-guys comment, DSP is the processing power of the CPU, not the available memory, same like your desktop computer, where you would get dropouts if CPU is too high, so they prevent this by preventing you adding FX. Got me myself the Valeton, since I read a lot of time that the Pod Go is quite CPU restricted, AND it was half-price to the Line6
We buy the valonton 200 cos I said it was the best sound U have heard .now U saying the line 6 is better. Which is it. Now I need to sell and buy again get ya shit together bro
Was there any updates for the Pod Go ? I know a lot of people talking about 3 years ago that the cab´s was not the best, people was installing different cab IR´s, to get it sound better, I know Ola Englund had to do it too and it sounded really good.. after all.. I think a good cab IR is 80% of the sound.. Thanks for the video..
Love your videos man. Just found your channel recently but I'm loving all the content. When you're testing out these amp modelers and cab sims are you going straight into an interface?
Depends on the video, but in shootouts like this with modelers, yes… straight into the interface with no post processing so you can hear what’s going on with the modeler.
Thanks for the video. My main question is on assigning. I'd like to be able to set the top or bottom row to select 4 patches within a bank then have the other row to add effects for patch, eg boost or phaser etc. Ideally, each patch would have it's own effects assigned. It looks like you can do that but is that right?
The Line6 sounds good (better harmonic content which is more 'realistic'), but the lack of DSP is a real let down. Even the HX Stomp is starved for DSP next to its similarly priced competition. "Complex signal chains" are the true strength of modelers over traditional gear. You don't see lots of gigging musicians with stereo Marshall/Boogie rigs (for example) because its expensive and impractical, not because it does not sound good.
I agree, but I also think there are a lot of guitar players that look for something like a POD GO and really only want to use a preamp, couple of effects and a wah into a solid state power amp and a cab
As he is only using the Katana and cab for monitoring what we hear is not influensed by that in any way and of course he is not using any cab emulation in the modelers just IR´s in the DAW as he said.
all the Line 6 productas are inclined to Heavy metal music, as an overall i think. i have the same diference in sound in the pod hd 500 gama pedalboards, the pod hd 500 its the best to chug from that price tier
Hey you said the IR was down in the description but I don’t see it?!?! lol… please share your presets and The IR if you would…. They sound pretty dang good!!! I like how you did the song at the end switching the two units I really couldn’t tell much difference at all… I do on a Helix but I picked up the Valeton GP-200 last week for $289 to use at church
Hi Taylor! Did you tried the pitch shiter in the gp200? That is an important feature for me, I have already tried the line 6 shifter in a hx stomp, but not in a valenton device. I only drop 2 o 3 semitones max
All these reviews tell you what the unit can do (with add ons such as the IR he used) but it doesn't show you what they do out of the box which is how a lot of people buying this would be doing in the beginning, (because they don't yet know what an IR even is) so yes it is great for us that know but misleading for those who don't.
I had both units to compare before actually buying one and the impressions from your video do not match with my own. Are you sure that there wasn't some kind of master-EQ activated on the GP-200 that was dampening the high-end? It sounds pretty muffled which I can't say from the GP-200 that I have here (yeah, I bought the GP-200 in the end...). In the video, the POD Go sounds more transparent and has more bite to it, no doubt about that.
Hi and thank you very much for this cool video. can you tell me how this units deal with downtuning? My experiences are the most of this digital units can not handle my 6 steps down drop tuning so well
There are 3 types of youtuber that're doing reviews on the Line 6 Pod Go, Valeton gp 200, Nux Mg 30 and Mooer ge 250:- 1. The types that prefer the Valeton gp 200 2. The types that prefer the Valeton gp 200 3. You. It's so obvious that somebody is being paid here..
Can you do the 4-cable method with the gp200 can you use other pedals with it? I have a looper, od, tc.e sentry gate, distortion and reverb/delay pedal I'd like to have on my board with it. I such at signal chains especially with this in the mix.
I loved the Pod Go until I tried running an analog overdrive pedal in the fx loop. Tried everything i could think of and nothing but hiss. The noise gate had no affect on an external pedal in the loop. Tried a few pedals too. So I have the GP200 coming soon. If that does the same thing I guess it's back to the dang drawing board :(
Nope. The GP-200 does the same thing without the flexibility of moving the FX Loop around like in the Pod Go. Sending it back. Great little unit and worth the price but didn't do what I had hoped. Looks like I'm just going to have to run my pedal in front of the Pod Go. Not going to keep buying more multi X units and send them back :(
@@daidiary4748 Actually I discovered something after being put in this dilemma. I found that the Pod Go takes high gain pedals great as long as you go directly into the "guitar input". It doesn't make sense how the noise gate works having the high gain pedal "before" the noise gate as the Pod Go is designed with the noise gate "before" all of the high gain blocks within the Pod Go. But as long as I don't have it in the fx loop, I get no hiss or noise. weird. I wanted the analog overdrive pedal to be after the digital distortion in the pod so it would cut through more with the band but having the digital distortion in the Pod Go after the analog distortion pedal still sounded fantastic so I'm all set now :)
Taylor can you help me out? I bought the Pod Go and the ML Impulse response and using your settings there's a huge discrepancy between the tone I'm getting vs. the tone in the shootout examples. Were you using a custom IR of your cab or perhaps mic'd your actual Oversized Mesa cab?
Good question, long time since I've made this video, but I used to change up impulse responses from ML quite a bit. The main ones I used were from the Mega Oversize, Mega traditional, and Mega Djent packs. I very rarely used the actual IR's, just the premixed ones (the ones that have names like ominous and notorious). Very unlikely I was using something other than one of those here. Hope that helps.
Great video! Thanks for going into detaill. So, is it possible to use the Valeton thru an EVH Amp for effects only - no amp, cab? I like the EVH alot, so I'd wanna use it as a traditional Multi-Effects pedal. 🤘
Another fantastic video, you even played some clean-er sounds Im there. I wish you would show what it sounds like playing jazz and blues though. Or maybe some surf tones. (Lulz) But honestly, the GP200 (I’ve owned the GP100 and the POD GO) sounds…cheap. The pod go swept this under the rug imo.
mmmmmm well... This was not a fair comparison what so ever, next time you're comparing units, I think its better if your comments are just neutral between one and the other... It kinda felt as if you were already predisposed to have people to like the Pod Go over the Valeton since the beginning. I could tell by your body language, face expressions and enthusiasm while talking about the Pod Go, it is different when talking about the Valeton..... You were even smiling while reviewing the Pod Go, since the beginning... !!!! I dont know... i didn't like this comparison At All, it felt as Misleading!!!.... Sorry, I'm just being as sadisticly Honest as you portrait to be in your videos! Both units sound extremely great anyway!
The one big difference is the price, pod go is $200 more , I got mine for $200 on black Friday also ordered a solar guitar, pedal arrived, just waiting on the guitar.
This is because this guy is just another generic elitist prick. Obviously he is going to be biased on the premise of the more expensive = superior in any way.
No offence to this dude.but every thing he Demo he says it great. Then when he demo the same amp with some thing else it's a different story he doze it all the time .which is it bro ha
I prefer the pod go, I have just picked on up and put the Ola ir (the one!) . It’s incredible…I have been experimenting with overdrive and distortion pedals… it’s opened up a huge avenue of experimenting. From using an old boss me8, pod xt live mooer ge200 and a boss gt100… plus running a Nux plexi crunch, mt2 wazza, amptweaker tight metal pro sounds beasting…. Another great vid man….I’ve actually picked up an older pod 2.0 and xt beans after watching a vid by Ola, he switched of the cab sim and used his ir. I have had a great time screwing around with sound… keep up the great work man…