Church Musicians, DO THIS NOW Before It's Too Late

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This video addresses the trend of church leaders embarrassing and disrespecting musicians in church services in front of hundreds of people!
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@eosdsu 4 месяца назад

I'm a cop. One day we had a guest Bishop for a friday night service. I just got off a 12 hour shift (7am -7pm). I handled a last minute complaint that pushed me to getting off at 7:15pm. FYI, I've got to be back to work at 7am the next day... I Changed my clothes and got to church around 7:40 for a 7:30pm service. Made it just in time for one last P&W song. When the Bishop got up to preach I slid off the organ because my wife brought me dinner and had it in the car. I usually never get off the organ when a Pastor is preaching because of stereotypes. I didn't get to eat all day because it was a busy day. I was exhausted and tired. As I was eating in the car the guest Bishop started preaching on me. I started getting text messages like crazy. This dude stereotyped me into what he thought a typical musician was. He stated that I was arogant because of my talent. Accused me of thinking that service will start when I arrive. He accused me of leaving when the word is being preached because I don't neccesarily need or want to hear the word. Nothing could of been further from the truth. I have to give props to my Bishop! After the guest Bishop said what he said, ended his serman and had altercall, my Bishop followed up on his statement. He stated prior to closing the service that he's been around a lot of different musicians , but what was described tonight is not what we have. I consider him a son. Talented, Dedicated, committed, faithful, and humble. As he said it, the members of the church stood and clapped. You got to be carefull! Stop judging folks from your perception. I pressed my way to make it to church to deal with a Bishop who was sooooo off base. If God didn't tellya to say it, don't say it. This happens all the time. Stop IT!!!

@TerenceFisher1 4 месяца назад

Crazy story bro! I know of many musicians that something very similar to this has happened to. Sorry you had to go through that! It definitely needs to stop!!

@tonychapman6591 3 месяца назад

You should have showed that guest minister your badge

@gerreson 8 месяцев назад

As a pianist, and a past church musician, I highly concur with everything you have mentioned in this video. Thanks for speaking up for church musician!!

@HeavenlyBridegroomMusic 11 месяцев назад

Pastors do that when they become jealous of the music ministry. 😂

@flowmaka 9 месяцев назад

Absolutely! Some of them feel that they are in competition with the music department. It’s worse when you try to do everything the right way. It’s their way of flexing their muscle and show that they are the big dogs. These are the same ones that preach the law because it affirms their positions as authority figures. They shy away from preaching Jesus because it takes the stones from their hands that they use to stone the inferior folks with! Wake up!

@cdpcullman 8 месяцев назад

Jealousy is not God approved!

@latonyawrenn1435 8 месяцев назад

Exactly!

@Mindovermatter1987 4 месяца назад

Exactly

@CherryeBess 4 месяца назад

Agreed.

@derrisleemusic1998 4 месяца назад

This video is SO relevant for today. Musicians in time past may have tolerated this toxic behavior, but TODAY, we not taking it no more. It does not make sense for people to mistreat others who are enhancing the ministry in ANY capacity.

@terencebrown3804 8 месяцев назад

A pastor did that to me once I embarrassed him in his church service after the first service I got my pay and I never went back to that church!!! I'm a very skilled musician and I taught voice at 3 Universities. I didn't need him he pretty much begged me to play and teach at his church. He kept calling me to come back I BLOCKED him!!!

@frederickweeksjr.1189 4 месяца назад

Interesting........I'll say that it's THE LORD'S HOUSE and we should be careful HOW we deal with Pastors. NOT justifying anything, but I am saying this is GODS BUSINESS and we must trust GOD to handle it.

@terencebrown3804 4 месяца назад

@frederickweeksjr.1189 I agree I also believe that pastors should be careful HOW they deal with God's people. The Bible states what you do to the least one you have also done to me. There are a lot of pastors that abuse their authority to make them feel higher than God's people and there are some Pastor's that will be little you! I have been in the church for over 60 years and I have seen a lot.

@frederickweeksjr.1189 4 месяца назад

@terencebrown3804 me too as well but have NO BUSINESS rebuking GOD'S leaders.....whether you agree or not. Read Apostle Paul's letter to Timothy rebuke of elders. There's a WAY to address.......AND yes,I've been in the body of Christ a long time so I get your point.

@myssscarlet539 3 месяца назад

@@frederickweeksjr.1189The Lords house is NOT made by mans hands. Read The Bible fr... Study for yourself😊

@willsims5477 11 месяцев назад

I've experienced this several times! I agree with this 100% enough is enough!!

@MrDeevo 8 месяцев назад

If your pastor does this, walk out immediately!

@kentbrooks3227 8 месяцев назад

Thank you for this video, sir! I've been in music ministry for over 40 years, and God has blessed me to have served under good pastors., but I've seen it happen to so many too many times. The first and ONLY time it ever happened to me (and I admit I had to repent) was many years ago when I helped out a friend at his church. He couldn't be there for one of the church's revival nights, so he asked if I would come and lead the band. We accompanied a choir who didn't have a musician. The choir sang, the Spirit fell, and all the guest minister had to do was preach. Instead, he decided he had to come behind the choir and sing a song. He was not a singer, and he jumped to five different keys within the song. Needless to say, the Spirit left quickly. When the song didn't go over the way he wanted, he looked at me and said, "Pray for the musician. I know you were trying." After the shock wore off, I couldn't even enjoy the rest of the service. When he started tuning up at the end of his sermon, he overshot and ended up in B-flat when he should have been no higher than F. The band was locked in with me. I told them to stay in B-flat. By the time preacher man was done, he looked like he had done ten rounds with Tyson. I found out later that he said to the pastor, "I guess I ticked off your organist." The pastor replied, "Man, you should've just preached. He's one of the best musicians in the area, and you didn't do yourself any favors by shading him." Like I said, I prayed for forgiveness, and as a seasoned musician, I wouldn't do that now, but people need to stay in their lane.

@rickeyjones729 8 месяцев назад

Bro and that's how I know your talent without hearing a great musician figures you voicing very quickly and know when your reaching and how to bring u back down. So your not fighting Tyson in his prime. I'm not God. But that is pure kindness for such a statement made publicly by a pastor... B-flat is an amazing key so is b natural lol. Some of these pastors be singing between keys or one round their in g a minute later c than C# than will end up in A flat and your like doc what you doing😅.

@kentbrooks3227 8 месяцев назад

@@rickeyjones729 🤣🤣🤣

@gospelsoulman 4 месяца назад

Imagine having to play for somebody like that every Sunday! He'd get up and start off in one key and the congregation would always try to help him but he'd jump keys and id try to follow him on the organ, but at that point the congregation stayed in the original key, he in another and choir in yet another key all trying help his no singing arrogant self! it was a mess like that at least twice a month! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@frederickweeksjr.1189 4 месяца назад

Not necessarily stay in their lane but KNOW that the HOLY SPIRIT IS INTELLIGENT and we need to be obedient to HIM, not our intentions. After reading your post I believe the preacher KNEW what he was doing but CHOSE to disobey the HOLY SPIRIT, AND HE GOT WHAT HE ORDERED......INTERESTING STORY tho.

@RichWilx 9 месяцев назад

Stunned that people do this and that the musicians dont just walk right off that stage. Subscribed.

@naiya32 4 месяца назад

I agree with everything in this video that was said. My Dad is a Pastor and he publicly embarrassed a musician from another church and I disagree with that. He hurt her feelings so bad. That Church never came back. Some of these Pastors are out of order.

@lonewolfmgtow7187 11 месяцев назад

If there’s one thing I don’t tolerate under no circumstances is church abuse, and that’s real talk

@ioxxd90 5 месяцев назад

i know that’s right

@EnyaAgerholm 11 месяцев назад

I’m so happy someone is talking about this! Like whoa!! I was always shamed as a youth group worship leader & the people in charge would joke about having to keep my ego in check.😅 If I showed up late they’d be like “oh here comes the rockstar” ( never mind I was a young single mom spending most of my time volunteering for them & not getting paid, while not being able to pay my bills) I ended up leaving and playing gigs full time.

@NtokozoKaMalinga 9 месяцев назад

i bet my sweet, if you go back, adhere for 1 year, youll do better than you are doing now, though yes you are doing well still... prove me wrong i double dare you.

@EnyaAgerholm 9 месяцев назад

@@NtokozoKaMalinga love it when strangers on the internet tell me what to do.

@NtokozoKaMalinga 9 месяцев назад

@@EnyaAgerholm.. ✋🤚strangers called FANS amongst them Governors that support your brand and hope someday soon a God can release your international break through as in Proverbs 18:16 whenever you're ready..

@manofsteel6616 8 месяцев назад

I didn’t like when the pastor started sitting in on choir rehearsal yet he wasn’t a singer but would always end up controlling the rehearsal. Not sure if it was because his wife attended the rehearsals and was apart of the choir ! It was kinda annoying because he didn’t know music , to me it’s too controlling.

@mchandler4722 3 месяца назад

@@NtokozoKaMalinga Church Busybody toward random strangers. Cool job, or should I say, cool calling?

@SethWorsham 8 месяцев назад

I am so blessed to have not had to deal with any of this in my praise band/weekly church gig. They also have 0 problem with me playing secular gigs and earning $ elsewhere as a musician. They hugely appreciate me and make every time I'm there a wonderful experience. Praise the Lord!

@ColleenKitchen 11 месяцев назад

My favorite video of yours yet. I worked in a fairly formal church, public shaming never happened on my watch, the only shame was what they paid me. I asked for a raise, got PRIVATELY shamed, like I was some greedy POS or something and that day I left. Now they have a new pastor,, they want me back for double, but I don't think I could stand the way that church has devolved in the ensuing years, both spiritually and musically.

@melotheproducer 8 месяцев назад

More people need to talk about this. It's been going on for too long. (This is a large part of why I'm no longer a church musician btw.) Great job on this video.

@mjlesq 4 месяца назад

That's why the churches are losing musicians.

@nancybrewington9000 11 месяцев назад

I Also Enjoyed Your Video About Some Churches Not Wanting to Pay Musicians . You Told the Truth Too About That Issue . I've Got Nearly 49 years in , playing for a Whole Lot of Churches, So Yes, Some Will Use You. These Days, You Have to Set Your Rate , or Just Don't Be Bothered. We can't go to a Music Store to buy an instrument or some type of accessory, And tell the cashier " I play for a church" and Get What we Need for free. " Nooooo"! We have to pay and pay full price + tax! We Don't Get a Discount Neither, As A Church Musician!! This is why a lot of Churches are losing musicians, cause we get fed up! No Respect Given to Us , as Human Beings, and Low to No Pay, as Seasoned, Devoted Musicians !

@02WIFE 8 месяцев назад

I have been playing for 30 years and I've played for good pastors and some assholes. One thing is there will always be a church needing a musician

@nancybrewington9000 9 месяцев назад

OooooWeeeee Brother. You Hit the nail on the head!! That's 1 of multiple reasons why I have left some churchs, because of their big-headed, egotistical, "think they are God Almighty" Pastors that Don't Have RESPECT for their Musician. Even my current church, the Pastor want to flip the script and put the blame on me, AFTER I Did What He Asked Me To Do, that Is NOT In my contract. I went beyond call of duty, but You Can't Please Nobody & Everybody, at the same time!! So I'll Bail, Cause I Personally Don't Like Chaos in God's House of Worship!! 👋 Preach The Truth, Brother, Preach!! 🔥 Committed Musician(s) are Very Emotional People, & Very Spiritual When Chosen By God our father, Jesus his son, And the Annoying of the Holy Ghost!! AMEN, AMEN, AMEN. So Pastors Give Us Our Respect, as We Respect You

@rstephensmusic 11 месяцев назад

I'm so glad you mentioned that some pastors come in 5 minutes before PnW ends...people model the behavior of their leaders. If you don't care why should they?

@joethebar1 9 месяцев назад

Many do that because the poor music is a distraction- in my church, that’s exactly what the pastor told me. But OTOH, he expects others to endure it lol

@shandleeanderson8833 3 месяца назад

You're speaking truth no one should be disrespected in the house of God

@nancybrewington9000 11 месяцев назад

Thhaaaannnkkk You Brother. Tell The Truth Cause I Definitely Agree Cause I Has That Done To Me Many Times. I Have Left Churches Before For the Pastor Disrespecting Me In Front of A FULL Audience! I Am A Grown Adult & Not A Child and I Will Leave Your Church , Cause That Is Humiliating!!

@webstar07 11 месяцев назад

I thought that only happened in my small country of PNG 🇵🇬 Thanks for sharing that bro.. Glad to see someone talking about this 😊🙏🙏🙏💯

@kennycopeland65 8 месяцев назад

This video is so on point. I’ve seen a band and some members leave because of this.

@flowmaka 6 месяцев назад

Great video sir. I am fortunate to have served under a very wise Bishop who allowed me to grow under his tutelage. He never micromanaged but asked me to pray and ask God which direction he wanted me to take the music department. As wise and educated as he was, he always empowered the little man until they reached their full potential. The problem came when I went other places and other leaders wanted to flex their muscle. I wasn’t used to that because my leader wasn’t that type of person. One time I was at a church and the leader started ranting about these musicians being loud and making too much noise. I politely held up my amp cord and power switch to let this boisterous person know I wasn’t even plugged in and it was the organ player which was laughing because he knew it wasn’t me. After all of that, they still didn’t apologize. Thank God for wisdom!

@Theweeze100 9 месяцев назад

You make some great points. I hope folks are listening!

@churchtalkunlimited 2 месяца назад

Great show Terence Fisher! Blessings! Church-Musicians need a union!

@MrNess7783 5 месяцев назад

I am loving this! Facts Bro! Pastors have gotten used to being worshiped, and they become consumed by the power they have over the folks that worship them. The truth is that most of these churches would be empty without the musicians.

@martyf3531 8 месяцев назад

Not a musician, but did volunteer for several years doing lights and sound. In all of churches I attended (different military duty stations), only paid staff was pastoral staff, office staff, maybe music leader and maybe janitorial person. Everyone else was a volunteer: musicians, choir, production team, teachers, and babysitters. Also, about musician and choir walking out, in a couple of churches, ran two morning services. Musicians and choir would be at first service, stay for remainder of service and leave after completing music part of second service.

@hotice8885 8 месяцев назад

For the music to be right, the musicians have to get there hours before the service begins: wsrming up muscles in the voice (and rest of the body, for the instrumentalists), sound checking, tuning, rehearsing. That would mean their body's needs would be on a different schedule than everybody who went straight from their house to the church. When would those musicians get to the bathroom? Most churches ban drinks in the sanctuary; how will the singers get water for their throats? If the guitarist breaks a string, horn player has a problem with a pad, cork, valve, reed or mouthpiece, when would he be able to address it? Also, If there is a change in song order,nor a problem with the arrangement, the leader needs a space of time to address it. To deny or ignore those things is to kill the worship service, by killing musician DESIRE to participate in the worship services (at least, at *THAT* church).

@revdouglasmoore3927 4 месяца назад

Great video! Very well said. I pastor a small church where we do congregational singing because we do not have a musician at this time. Churches that have musicians, choirs and praise teams are truly blessed. They should be shown kindness, love and respect. They are a blessing to the Saints. 🙏🏿

@danabaillie3948 3 месяца назад

As a church musician I appreciate pastors like you.

@THEFEEL57 11 месяцев назад

Terrence, love you man. Learned so much from your show. Really dig your scene and rants. Thank you thank you, the FEEL.

@Mindovermatter1987 4 месяца назад

Thank you for saying this!! Enough is Enough!!

@jfree336 8 месяцев назад

Fortunately everywhere I have played, the pastors have been very complimentary of the musicians. I would not stick around in an environment like that.

@derekmast142 3 месяца назад

I'm so glad I go to a small church and I'm volunteering as the guitar player none of us are payed , and none of this drama ever happens and we are far from perfect, myself especially.

@mr.dennis5503 Месяц назад

It's biblical for the musicians to be paid! What IS NOT biblical is this epidemic of arrogant pastors!

@angelainyt 5 месяцев назад

I agree with you, and that is: Treat musicians with dignity and respect. They are human, they are people, and so they have feelings too. Just because they can play an instrument very well, does not mean they are an object, no human feelings, like, an instrument and you can disrespect them.

@t.rodgers1438 3 месяца назад

This has happened to me as a keyboard player. May they reap what they sow.

@andre0baskin 9 месяцев назад

It's not just musicians that need to speak out against this, it is every member of the church. Hold the person responsible and if it continues, move on. I would be willing to bet that any preacher that is doing this has other issues as well.

@chasbee 8 месяцев назад

Agreed! By their fruits we shall know them..

@Suane333 2 месяца назад

My husband (church bass player of 50 + years along with secular projects) and I were having brunch with our new church pastor. Our appetite was ruined when this pastor criticized our worship leader and told us that she was going to be removed. Our worship leader is a 4 year degree graduate (instrumental and vocal) of a well recognized music program in the Toronto area and she is now studying Theology. When we observed the total lack of confidentiality with respect to personnel matters along with the pastor's mysoginst attitudes, a good number of the worship team, the leadership team and the congregation made use of the exit door. Many of these people are now at the same new church, serving and thriving. I am not the musician in the family Terence, but I love your videos and I shared your ideas with my husband. Praying for you.

@JohannesSampson 6 месяцев назад

Greetings brother, you on point. I just wish that more pastor's would listen to this. Bless you

@zechariahfrink3707 9 месяцев назад

Thank you for calling these kind of things out! I’ve seen so many pastors that are clearly pastors to hustle for money and have enormous unchecked egos. They devalue musicians and complain about paying us but if we all walked out, and refused to play you wouldn’t have a church. Unless you’re one of them old school don’t believe in instrument churches which are rare these days. Plus they tend to act like they own you, and be taking your whole Sunday in some Cases cause the service is so long or has multiple services. I ended up moving back home to Vermont and up here paying musicians in churches is completely unheard of. I do not miss playing for churches at all. I’d rather put that time towards thing I want to do. Primarily my own music.

@jaydixon32 5 месяцев назад

You’re right on point bro. I was playing drums at this church a few years back and the pastor kicked his own cousin out of the choir before they got ready to sing. I wasn’t a member of the church but I asked for a raise and he got mad when I told him I wasn’t fixing to pay tithes. I never went back to that church after that last Sunday. I found out later from some of his members that he wanted me to come back. These preachers basically think they are Yaweh now.

@ronpierce8965 11 месяцев назад

Brother I agree with u 100%!!! I wish a preacher would come at me like that it will be his last time!!! And these are the things that has to be discussed when you meet before u agree to play for the church what u will or will not stand for… And I tell them all the time you need talk to me about anything let’s talk in a meeting, and church musicians always have a back a plan because a lot of u allow this to happen to you because this is your only means of income, but have u a back up job just in case I have to check a Pastor for his behavior before he tries to fire u!!! I now require a musician contract with the church not the pastor…. Need info on how to do that I believe brother Terence can help I with that as well…. Great content my brother keep it going

@richwhittington5904 5 месяцев назад

That happened to a worship band i was in. The pastor thought it was funny. He legitimized abuse of band members in the church. I WAS SO HAPPY TO GET OUT OF THAT CHURCH! I couldn't get out of there fast enough.

@theresasimmons9007 3 месяца назад

Preach! The truth will make you free ❤

@STEVE609able 2 месяца назад

LIKE I SAID, WE AS MUSICIANS NEED MUCH PRAYER TO GO THROUGH WITH WHAT WE HAVE TO DO TO PRAISE THE LORD IN THE CHURCH AS THE MUSICIAN!!! 🙏❤️

@KevinBrightman 4 месяца назад

Brilliant video. Just subscribed.

@robertphillips2642 8 месяцев назад

I been through that situation before and I can't take it no more!!!!

@MalikEmmanuel 11 месяцев назад

I thought leaving during the service was in bad taste, until I actually played some services. That time is really useful to get together, get on the same page, discuss changes and adjustments, make corrections, freshen up and use the bathroom.

@vharboe 8 месяцев назад

We could also tell the pastor "we just preached, we're good". ;) Where were the pastor during worship and music, by the way....?

@drummerwarrior1 11 месяцев назад

Brings back a lot of memories.

@Jay-fp4ii 11 месяцев назад

Musicians can lay hands as well. Truth is, the clergy already know with whom they can try that crap with!

@ephlat74 4 месяца назад

I always find it interesting how pastors get mad at us for walking out when they get up to preach... but they don't even come in until AFTER praise & worship.

@AntoinneBarnes 2 месяца назад

thank you for saying what so many of us have been thinking for so many years. I personally know at least 5-6 musicians who have left the ministry behind this kind of bad behaviour from. church leadership!!

@bphilbac 9 месяцев назад

You telling the truth brother.

@simbaking6338 9 месяцев назад

U speaking facts ma bro....continue to fearlessly tell the truth!!

@joemegguh9298 7 месяцев назад

I’ve experienced the same and just brushed it off but when it happened again I was ready to fight after church. But thanks for touching on this topic because as I have gotten older I have matured in my musicianship and I do exactly what you said . I would respectfully cut the organ/ keyboard off , get up and leave. The things that some of these preachers do are disrespectful and in called for.

@MoeJaxon 9 месяцев назад

I love this vid. It’s the reason why I just don’t deal with most churches like that. I really don’t take a lot of engagements at this point in life.

@larryandrews1515 4 месяца назад

BROTHER YOU IS RIGHT ON THE BUTTON 100% for many many years me and my brother been playing for churches years i have had the same disrespeck for many years as well i've had pastors falesly rebuking me for no reason just to make the pepole happy i've been treated so badly even by the saints i remember when everybody was geting in the flow of the spirit it was a visiting pastor me and my brother was playing behind him he turned around and said quite i don't need that and rebuke me and my brother falesly for no reason and he said whacth me holler like rev C.L FRANKLIN !!!!!!!! thanks terence for speaking up againts these fake churches!!!

@user-wu2mi3px8k 4 месяца назад

This is sad,.. God is cleaning house. He says that judgement begins in the church. Arrogance. And pride. I'm a musician. I've not served under arrogant and disrespectful pastors or leadership. I had no idea this was taking place. Thank you brother for sounding the alarm. Maybe now pastors and worship leaders a like... who get foo full of themselves will take note. All is being exposed.

@pqila 11 месяцев назад

Am done singing at church. It's a lot of work and stress for nothing.

@MsSan61 8 месяцев назад

So sorry,but dont give up. You were called for His Glory. He will make room for your gift. I have been right where you are just pray and trust God for the victory.

@mr.dennis5503 Месяц назад

@pqila: It's not for nothing! It's for The Lord! Always remember that when you get frustrated with pompous pastors, and complaining congregants!

@fionabegonia7802 4 месяца назад

I am a classical pianist in the academic world, so was completely ignorant about the world of contemporary church musicians. These videos have been greatly enlightening to me. I have learned that these church musicians are professional musicians who deserve respect. They are not there to praise God or insure their own personal salvation. This level of musician does not do charity work or busk for spare coin. They are there to perform the service they were hired and paid to do. End of story!

@barneshenry2744 Месяц назад

I agree this happened several times to me . At my church in Baltimore my almost former pastor did this crap.

@garistang 8 месяцев назад

I appreciate all your videos. Thank you for being an advocate and a voice for all church musicians.

@theverystones2643 6 месяцев назад

Fantastic video. 💯 % on point. So much hypocrisy

@pearl0818 5 месяцев назад

Great video. That was Bishop Paul Morton

@JulietRobin 8 месяцев назад

I just subscribed to your channel. I am a musician and I have played in a worship band. Left a church two weeks ago because NOBODY is gonna disrespect me. Furthermore if any new situation happens, if I am disrespected by anyone especially any pastor I will deal with them the same way they deal with me. Disrespect me and I will return the favor.Pastors are sinners just like you and I. In many instances they have nasty secrets that we don’t know about. I am so glad I never let that man put his hand on my head. I agree with you a million percent. Musicians need to stretch after playing. Go outside for a few minutes and relax and drink water and even talk to someone outside and crack a joke if necessary. If you are a freelancer then you came to work and not to be preached to. I am a baptized believer but I am fed up of some of these people who like to do spiritual bullying.

@c2ncourage348 2 месяца назад

Hey Yo I grew up in church and I totally agree what you’re saying. Everybody’s not anointed and you don’t know what they struggling with for them to be land they hands Aka their problems they issues that spirit on you

@goldfingas352 5 месяцев назад

Bro thank you this was Needed every word you saying is 100 it needs to stop it’s hurting a lot of our brothers and sistersmusicians sometimes I didn’teven seen Pastors do it to thear on family as well. And you got me rolling the way you saying it. It is funny as well but so real.😂😂😂 God bless them in the name of Jesus to get it right and you wonder why brothers and sisters don’t wanna play anymore from being hurt🙏blessings bro

@aaimginggraphics2411 8 месяцев назад

not only are the musicians subject to this ....but ALSO the AV staff....i know cause it happen to me PUBLICALLY!

@ARCODEMUSIC 11 месяцев назад

Terrance yeah you speaking mad facts!!!!

@Certifiedtechologists 8 месяцев назад

That goes for anyone not just to musicians

@mjazzguitar 5 месяцев назад

I was in a church when the pastor who was playing guitar all of a sudden tells the organ player to play the song in a different key. All he had to do was move his capo. She struggled through it and did a pretty good job. After the service we went up to him and tried to explain how hard it is to transpose on the spot like that. I said suppose someone came up to you and said play the song in E flat? He said I don't want to talk about it. She left the church.

@BashaniChikwawa 3 месяца назад

I like this,good advice

@demetriccauthen-no1jy 11 месяцев назад

Your telling the truth ✅️💯

@BILDEMRICH 5 месяцев назад

Pastors really need to hear this

@JamesHardy1000 2 месяца назад

I approve this message in this context. Well said. Btw, How do I reach out to you about ministering in music or sharing your testimony in a different setting?

@TanyaM-yp7gk 4 месяца назад

We call it "Grand Standing".

@micah3823 8 месяцев назад

Well said!!!

@anthonypowell6289 11 месяцев назад

Well said!!

@teddynruthstudstill1508 Месяц назад

Good point and I might just start cursing in church if something like that happens to me.

@sseltrek1a2b 2 месяца назад

this happens in a most musical circles...if another person (musician) is willing to embarrass or dis-respect you in a live setting, don't work with that person ever again...

@jakehill2010 4 месяца назад

Dude....I wish I had this knowledge growing up. Ohhhhhh how I wish I had this!!!

@BigInTheBurgh1 7 месяцев назад

As a pastor, I know that you are absolutely correct!

@JamesKeno 5 месяцев назад

Man, I thought it was only me! Thanks

@abbeyna01 9 месяцев назад

😂😅 Musicians are not Magicians!! Good one! This was one of your best videos!!!!! I laughed so much!

@ChangeforJonathan 8 месяцев назад

Factz

@Marty48034 2 месяца назад

Praise folks in public. Correct in private. That's the short version. No matter what, "Do unto others..." (I read that somewhere.)

@joeyemmanuel9606 5 месяцев назад

You are right, Sir. No matter how anointed any minister or singer is, there is a way to correct a situation in love even in a service.

@algist65 3 месяца назад

Said my brother! It's not okay to treat someone like that

@edtheycanstillperformwotho2131 8 месяцев назад

Thanks for info I been a church drummer over 40years piano player and me turn music up instrumental congregation enjoy it

@user-pn9rp5ml6b 11 месяцев назад

When the saved get to heaven, the first ministry that's going to go is the pastor. Why? Because pastors and preachers won't be needed anymore. Besides that, musicians are not obligated in anyway to give their talents, time, musicianship, determination or dedication to anyone. God doesn't need any of us. Keep preaching the truth bro Terrence.

@RockAndDoubleBassWithAaronJoy 29 дней назад

"I've never heard someone say 'I thought you were good musicians' who were good themselves."

@STEVE609able 2 месяца назад

I agree that no one who is faithful and willing to do and be the best musician that GOD has BLESSED them to be should at (NO TIME AT ALL) when serving the LORD with their GOD GIVEN GIFTS!!! should ever have to go through hell with a cocky member or pastor to do their job. I WILL NOT STAND FOR IT EVER AGAIN. THE GOD I SERVE IS MY PROVIDER , NOT THE CHURCH. MY GIFTS COME FROM THE LORD and NOT man !!! GOD IS MY PROVIDER. 🙏❤️AMEN!!!🙏

@sylvesterjohns7968 8 месяцев назад

If the pastor feels that the choir can't sing, he or she should come to rehearsal and teach the choir how to sing. But what bothers me the most is that when the choir is singing, that arrogant pastor just sits there in an emotionally dormant state.

@isaacwatson2874 8 месяцев назад

Love this video

@austinwalker6022 4 месяца назад

Bruhhhhh.... Everything you sayin is spot on... Totally a huge reason im done with church...

@briandriver3915 8 месяцев назад

One thing that needs to be made clear to Pastors and members of the congregation especially to the members of the congregation that there is no secret pages of the Bible nor is there a page that folds out only for preachers to know and learn that separates them from what anyone else can know biblically. you can tell if they fail at teaching Gods word by simply seeing how they use their position of authority against those in the congregation. they don't want to show the congregation how to check it out in God's for themselves! they want them to be 100 percent reliant on the leadership of the church to tell them how the Bible says it so they can keep squeezing for tithes and offerings. THIS is why I'm glad judgement starts at the pulpit! Judgment starts with those who falsely taught Gods word for fleshly gains and it's going to happen before Hitler or polpot or mao and Stalin they committed atrocious things....but they didn't do it claiming to be a sent messenger of Jesus Christ

@lisa.user-xm7kz2tb6x 4 месяца назад

Jiminy! Do they do that at the cleaning staff or the office staff?? Thank you for informing me on this subject. Their egos!

@MichaelGawesebmainone 3 месяца назад

I play trumpet alone for free in church, mostly as community service, but also to learn the instrument better. There is quite a bit of abuse and trumpet being trumpet everyone will hear/feel when you are touched. Sometimes I would walk out, which is quite rare since I play minimal or just stop playing. I would always go back though as the pastor appreciates and is not that kind, while he is also the leader.

@davidcarter655 6 месяцев назад

amen to that!!! Can you do a video on why church musicians don't have a musician appreciation ????

@CedricChalmers 5 месяцев назад

I’ve Had A Friend That Had One But I Never Have. I Needed It Too Since I Was So Under Paid

@benrobinson3438 11 месяцев назад

I've been playing in church for looowng time and have thankfully never seen anything like this. BUT I do know two guys, a keys/organist in southwest OH and and bassist in southeast KY who DID have this happen to them. Both were from "big name" ministers. Is this more common in certain circles?